Classify Belarusians who played for their national football team

[andrzej]

And where can they pass?


1)https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2024/324x324/250004395.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Syarhey_Ignatovich.pnghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Siarhiej_Ihnatovi%C4%8D.2019.1.png






2)https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2024/324x324/250109267.jpghttps://media.gettyimages.com/id/1744648270/photo/st-gallen-switzerland-zakhar-volkov-of-belarus-getting-into-the-field-during-the-uefa-euro.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=_G5dqyDCV8XwzzEudfP6I3xgF7qlfuF3tnY_tVFdWpE=http s://pbs.twimg.com/media/FACxg4ZUYAEDNkD.jpg:large








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4) https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2024/324x324/250027966.jpghttps://img.a.transfermarkt.technology/portrait/big/187527-1680670033.png?lm=1https://magazine.faw.cymru/application/files/2716/3647/2534/Bykov.png







5) https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N0zReMoSVxE/sddefault.jpghttps://images.fotmob.com/image_resources/playerimages/973240.pnghttps://images.footballtransfers.com/?url=https://static.footballtransfers.com/resources/players/404832.png&h=200








6)https://championship.abff.by/uploads/images/players/608954ac5b023065712051.jpghttps://media.gettyimages.com/id/1243146133/photo/kiryl-pyachenin-of-orenburg-looks-on-during-the-russian-premier-league-match-between-fc-zenit.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=rSEHTFWCPoJzPeQ-W0AsinCSivzWkHki8pZVPOXdfOM=ihttps://img.a.transfermarkt.technology/portrait/big/498015-1690112978.png?lm=1







7)https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2024/324x324/250090788.jpghttps://img.a.transfermarkt.technology/portrait/big/351735-1696079984.png?lm=1https://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2021/a_277/277229.jpg






8) https://media.gettyimages.com/id/613297920/photo/denis-polyakov-of-belarusduring-the-fifa-world-cup-2018-qualifying-match-between-netherlands.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=zurHkO6QTHhXw3E_YDgmY806tSU0_M-4K8LSmiP6bmY=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Dzyanis_Palyakow_2019.jpghttps://c8.alamy.com/comp/2F68CCD/leuven-belgium-march-30-denis-polyakov-of-belarus-during-the-fifa-world-cup-2022-qatar-qualifier-match-between-belgium-and-belarus-at-den-dreef-on-2F68CCD.jpg






9)https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/120213.jpg?fallback=pnghttps://alchetron.com/cdn/maksim-skavysh-467abc3b-ca3b-4e07-93db-2c3bc506159-resize-750.jpeghttps://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2018/a_40/40226.jpg






10) https://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2024/324x324/250143353.jpghttps://scontent.fyyz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/65965155_2287359347997108_2590637338514161664_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ETlp90PAdCkAX92Cogh&_nc_ht=scontent.fyyz1-1.fna&oh=00_AfClYz0dL0Ir4M2xwqAztq9cVVJ3pJa8m9eNYMyQEaXw Yg&oe=662D6256https://dinamo-minsk.by/assets/images/news/2022/12/dscf4828.JPG






11) https://www.bdfutbol.com/i/j/43714.jpghttps://fcdynamo.com/img/285c7b93-a439-4f73-9fa1-0dc9a7becd00/1478194285-orig.jpg?fm=jpg&q=80&fit=max&crop=682%2C682%2C0%2C0https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/223349.jpg





12)https://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2020/a_352/352246.jpghttps://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2021/a_352/352246.jpghttps://pictures.by.trbna.com/image/a0e50252-23ea-4a79-90c0-4ac3f2508e7a





13)https://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2022/a_38/38724.jpghttps://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/a_38/38724.jpghttps://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/galerie/politevich-1579167959-29908.jpg?lm=1579167969








14)https://img.a.transfermarkt.technology/portrait/big/203510-1690113454.png?lm=1https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Yury_Kavalyow_2022.jpghttps://fmdataba.com/images/p2/523862.png






15) https://dynamo-brest.by/media/bearleague/bl15863395131397.pnghttps://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/galerie/pavel-savitskiy-rukh-1617305082-59949.jpg?lm=1617305097https://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2019/a_136/136744.jpg







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17)https://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2020/a_248/248495.jpg
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18)https://headbandsandheartbreak.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/aleksandr-pavlovets.pnghttps://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2019/a_244/244890.jpghttps://www.footballdatabase.eu/images/photos/players/2020-2021/a_244/244890.jpg

[Hektor12]

More diverse than i would expect.

[andrzej]

Almost no potato, they don't pass in my area, majority pretty much unpassable level even individually

Potato is predominately Baltid? I think Belarusians are pretty diverse and have some more southern influence compared to Baltic people, however they definitely have a significant pure Baltid looking population. I left some people out that looked too identical to other players including some more potatoes.

Do you think they look somewhat like Lithuanians?

[andrzej]

Any classifications?

[Victor]

Southern Belorussia is quite dark, "Ukrainian shifted" Eastern Belorussia is similar to Kaluga, Tver, Smolensk, Bryansk people, original Belorussians is something from Central part, when Western Belorussia is Polish /Lithuanian shifted.

[Victor]

More diverse than i would expect.

Country Belorussia is a Belorussian SSR, taken from different lands, they're not that homogeneous as some people mistakenly think.

[PaganPoet]

Country Belorussia is a Belorussian SSR, taken from different lands, they're not that homogeneous as some people mistakenly think.

I have been told this is on purpose, so that when one of those countries wants to be independent, there is surely a war to facilitate reunification of the Russian empire.

[Vessna]

All are typical but the guy #3. Do you know his name by any chance?

[Vessna]

I have been told this is on purpose, so that when one of those countries wants to be independent, there is surely a war to facilitate reunification of the Russian empire.

Belarusians are pretty homogeneous culturally. There is no dramatic difference between East/West/South.

[Hektor12]

Country Belorussia is a Belorussian SSR, taken from different lands, they're not that homogeneous as some people mistakenly think.

I know but this set has surprisingly high % Turkish-passing people. Even i look more Belarusian than perhaps half of this set, you know. (:

Some time ago, i attended a Turkish-Belarusian wedding. There Belarusians that ive seen mostly looked like 1, 6, 8. They also served a regional drink and said "Only we have this, Russians dont."

[Victor]

I know but this set has surprisingly high % Turkish-passing people. Even i look more Belarusian than perhaps half of this set, you know. (:

Some time ago, i attended a Turkish-Belarusian wedding. There Belarusians that ive seen mostly looked like 1, 6, 8. They also served a regional drink and said "Only we have this, Russians dont."

Probably Zubrowka. Poles have it. I never liked it tho.

[Victor]

Belarusians are pretty homogeneous culturally. There is no dramatic difference between East/West/South.

People from Vitebsk and from Grodno are quite different.

[Vessna]

People from Vitebsk and from Grodno are quite different.

They are not. It’s not the same as Ukrainian East-West. Let’s just leave it at that.

[andrzej]

I know but this set has surprisingly high % Turkish-passing people. Even i look more Belarusian than perhaps half of this set, you know. (:

Some time ago, i attended a Turkish-Belarusian wedding. There Belarusians that ive seen mostly looked like 1, 6, 8. They also served a regional drink and said "Only we have this, Russians dont."

Well like I said to Zohor I didn't include the whole set because it be too redundant with some types and just too much. Here are the rest I could've included I'm not sure if it changes your perception of the whole:

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[Victor]

Well like I said to Zohor I didn't include the whole set because it be too redundant with some types and just too much. Here are the rest I could've included I'm not sure if it changes your perception of the whole:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/14d21cdeab187b413d839571c4c97a1b/73f27943cdc5a870-fa/s1280x1920/b8c64bd62a7be8b6419612946fdfc6868647e4b0.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/d6073c7199b97c472b4acfd87ae4a298/73f27943cdc5a870-ed/s400x600/357a273833221a26fdc2fa8f16f273737351a4d1.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/82e65088e379bed6fa47429bf3d32aca/73f27943cdc5a870-32/s2048x3072/6294542cbae29531f58cba2403bb2fe2c2b8e4b5.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/1e89be30d332ed1276461a151d4d3f21/7c406d2d8b2e8255-15/s400x600/77a0d1733d1e1c1cba25320eb69048113899d6b8.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/0ddc3c605d81a08822f8e86efd065bd0/7c406d2d8b2e8255-39/s400x600/598a35fbec068edfe5f8b450190fa220cb5b5931.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/b99cf4b12a8b6571674fb02c74f55db0/73f27943cdc5a870-5b/s250x400/4759a9fa81d7764e19b5c831ce6930b500e7eae9.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/ce966737b993f1c6b0b2ab36cd31ff26/73f27943cdc5a870-1d/s2048x3072/7dc8957c07a6c1648b4a1098f9acfe5831b5f03d.pnjhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/2dd39c5c34f8fb52a08ef13f2a27ba12/73f27943cdc5a870-3b/s400x600/0920112683c4914000e5b6345a46d45495864b30.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/6b8c95780bd7f8e3a0a04724078845de/73f27943cdc5a870-c5/s400x600/f2c9ba694cb041ea66e56752076f24fb8ab520bf.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/99bddcd5dd0b9d9d03b1b760c7d2041f/73f27943cdc5a870-5e/s400x600/bed115cdf3bbdcfd2358733f7dfd5e7f6d19e7f3.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/f4f360bb7678b2a84baea8fbf9018657/bbae46e07402d4ae-59/s500x750/8e2a8ef3c9d074e0a23e501f0446c971406bcb4f.pnjhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/b273109c8df8881da29326991143f721/bbae46e07402d4ae-4b/s540x810/78098d0d0c443792b22ca593c58a1dc9c915fc64.pnjhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/8da4ae941c7b2c2a82d9ba4781ea999f/bbae46e07402d4ae-a8/s500x750/d5fd3ff46d1aaac626a609612c8ce0a1449f0909.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/edce760fbaf66f67b63533f6fa36e2bf/73f27943cdc5a870-99/s400x600/9872a7722e1a6c751161a9dca6e6bd9602b01ffa.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/57529c9d2dd558054a86de930a1a6a8c/73f27943cdc5a870-33/s1280x1920/46f07a8b9028ead0e3d25b17e025e0a435d6c857.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/4b2376f4fc2c8961d443ef76b3438bf2/73f27943cdc5a870-57/s400x600/ccec2d13277c9d7e4e40fe39876a5d6ec864d459.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/1dc7cf2b93bc2bf488692f1d5669af50/73f27943cdc5a870-e0/s2048x3072/b4f3816cbfe08684fa54aca6225add355401c2c1.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/590b608ff7b24f2996dc7ea943b9b82a/73f27943cdc5a870-d2/s400x600/aee7238441b44cca365864b62f8dac9efb22a265.jpg
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Lots of them are just Russians with no blame Communists included their regions to Belorussian SSR in 20s. In biggest plans before Jugashvili, Smolensk and Kaluga regions were also in the list to get to Belorussia

[andrzej]

All are typical but the guy #3. Do you know his name by any chance?
Валерый Грамыка which as far as I know is a solely Belarusian name and not Ukrainian at all. However, his type is found regularly in Volyn but not as much as in Galicia in Ukraine. I have seen a few Belarusian Dinarids but I agree he's not typically how I associate Belarusians.

https://www.instagram.com/gromyko_valera/


Southern Belorussia is quite dark, "Ukrainian shifted" Eastern Belorussia is similar to Kaluga, Tver, Smolensk, Bryansk people, original Belorussians is something from Central part, when Western Belorussia is Polish /Lithuanian shifted.
Also, in Brest region a lot of the people in the south are just full out Ukrainian in ancestry, but I do agree with Vesna even those people do not have much consciousness of Ukrainian heritage and culturally Belarus is pretty homogenous particularly now. Ukrainian dynamics are complicated in comparison for other reasons. Also, Belarusian national identity was never as strong as Ukrainian one.

Also, the whole area was already pretty complex even before the Soviet Union, because in the territory division of Ruthenians in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth which was split between Poland (that became Ukraine) and Lithuania (that became Belarus) a lot of the land of northern Ukraine was actually part of the the northern half which formed more into Belarus.

Btw, ethnicity especially in our area really can't be watered down like that (Central Belarusians being the "true ones") because group identity was quite dynamic and always changing and absorbing different people. Like if a Pole, Jew, or Tatar became Orthodox and he lived in Belarus, he could be a Belarusian or if a Belarusian noble man converted to Catholicism he could be a Pole.

Not to mention the same can be said about the Kuban since Ukrainians were the majority there in the 19th century.

If anyone is interested here's a map of ethnic divisions in the region in the 19th century:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/96ac423f2106d8c96613ab26b0fdc744/96bbf18e481d0297-4d/s2048x3072/162cba5456421ed8fecab671b2c7927d8cbfba08.pnj

[Vessna]

Валерый Грамыка which as far as I know is a solely Belarusian name and not Ukrainian at all. However, his type is found regularly in Volyn but not as much as in Galicia in Ukraine. I have seen a few Belarusian Dinarids but I agree he's not typically how I associate Belarusians.

https://www.instagram.com/gromyko_valera/


Also, in Brest region a lot of the people in the south are just full out Ukrainian in ancestry, but I do agree with Vesna even those people do not have much consciousness of Ukrainian heritage and culturally Belarus is pretty homogenous particularly now. Ukrainian dynamics are complicated in comparison for other reasons. Also, Belarusian national identity was never as strong as Ukrainian one.

Also, the whole area was already pretty complex even before the Soviet Union, because in the territory division of Ruthenians in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth which was split between Poland (that became Ukraine) and Lithuania (that became Belarus) a lot of the land of northern Ukraine was actually part of the the northern half which formed more into Belarus.

Btw, ethnicity especially in our area really can't be watered down like that (Central Belarusians being the "true ones") because group identity was quite dynamic and always changing and absorbing different people. Like if a Pole, Jew, or Tatar became Orthodox and he lived in Belarus, he could be a Belarusian or if a Belarusian noble man converted to Catholicism he could be a Pole.

Not to mention the same can be said about the Kuban since Ukrainians were the majority there in the 19th century.

If anyone is interested here's a map of ethnic divisions in the region in the 19th century:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/96ac423f2106d8c96613ab26b0fdc744/96bbf18e481d0297-4d/s2048x3072/162cba5456421ed8fecab671b2c7927d8cbfba08.pnj

Thank you. I found his instagram, he’s definitely mixed, one of the parents is definitely not Belarusian.

[Kess]

More diverse than i would expect.

First time we actually agree.

[majevica]

You can‘t tell me #7 isn‘t Latino

[andrzej]

Thank you. I found his instagram, he’s definitely mixed, one of the parents is definitely not Belarusian.
And how can you know this for sure if in adjacent regions of Northern Ukraine and Eastern Poland you find his type? Which of his parents and with what do you think?

[andrzej]

You can‘t tell me #7 isn‘t Latino
You've never met Eastern Europeans have you? :P

What do you mean by Latino anyways? Are you claiming he looks Mestizo or something? There are actual "Mestizo-like" East Slavs (particularly Ukrainians) but he is not one of them, his look is just Pontid influenced.

[ooops]

Very northern European look, they can't pass in the Slavic Balkans

[reddragon]

7, 10 and 12 are unusual even by Maltese Standards. Are they Gypsies or what?

[Valenman]

7, 10 and 12 are unusual even by Maltese Standards. Are they Gypsies or what?
Very Unlikely, In Northern Slavic countries there are almost no Gypsies, Except Slovakia (5-10% of Population) and Czech Republic
I searched and 12 He is Central Asian/Russian Asian Republics by his last name.
7 and 10 Ukrainian or Belarusian surnames, or how to differentiate them

[Vessna]

And how can you know this for sure if in adjacent regions of Northern Ukraine and Eastern Poland you find his type? Which of his parents and with what do you think?

I’ve never met a Ukrainian looking like him. He looks way more southern. It’s not his coloring, facial features are extremity atypical. I am not sure what the mix would be but growing up we did have mixed kids in my class, eg Caucasus, Mountain Jew, Turkey/Middle East. There was even a half black boy in my grandmas town with a fully Belarusian name.

[Valenman]

I’ve never met a Ukrainian looking like him. He looks way more southern. It’s not his coloring, facial features are extremity atypical. I am not sure what the mix would be but growing up we did have mixed kids in my class, eg Caucasus, Mountain Jew, Turkey/Middle East. There was even a half black boy in my grandmas town with a fully Belarusian name.
Num 7,10,12 pass in youre country?

[Vessna]

Num 7,10,12 pass in youre country?

Not sure what do you mean by “pass”. They are Belarusians. #7 is not common but I’ve known a few guys with this phenotype. I also have met southern Russians that looked similar. I am not sure why people expect everyone to look the same. We have people with darker features.

[Valenman]

Not sure what do you mean by “pass”. They are Belarusians. #7 is not common but I’ve known a few guys with this phenotype. I also have met southern Russians that looked similar. I am not sure why people expect everyone to look the same. We have people with darker features.

You don't have flag,i don't know,what country are you from

[Hektor12]

Well like I said to Zohor I didn't include the whole set because it be too redundant with some types and just too much. Here are the rest I could've included I'm not sure if it changes your perception of the whole:

This looks more Belarusian to my eyes.

[aherne]

They pass within their ethnic group (Rus), except guy #7 who is non-European. Ethnic groups they are most similar: Lithuanians, Latvians

#1: proto-Corded
#2: Corded-Dinaric
#3: Med
#4: Baltid mixed with Corded (could well be Swedish)
#5: Corded-Med
#6: Corded altered by Baltid
#7: (foreigner) North/South Caucasian
#8: Baltid-Corded-Turanid (typical for South Ukraine)
#9: Med with unusual hair (dyed?)
#10: looks Romanian (mostly ENF derived, with a bit of Baltid)
#11: Baltid altered by Corded
#12: Pontid-Indid (gypsy admixed)
#13: unmixed Aryan (proto-"nordic")
#14: Corded altered by Baltid
#15: Med + CM
#16: Baltid altered by Corded
#17: pure Pontid
#18: Baltid with a very Polish vibe

[andrzej]

7, 10 and 12 are unusual even by Maltese Standards. Are they Gypsies or what?
No, and they're not unusual for the region. You understand that darker individuals in Malta are different, and have different origins, than darker individuals in Eastern Europe? Especially East Slavic nations? So how does it make sense to compare the two? They look off to you because you don't know what people from the region look like to begin with..

If you think those people look like Gypsies, especially 10 who has one of the most common phenotypes, then I guess Ukraine is a pretty Gypsy country by your logic:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/81092c45d1837c4707215d12a0c87e2e/0ec090120be4924d-b2/s1280x1920/8644e6219599beefcf638da1018e535ae55e273c.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/08107d08ef81e4eb6acd42a1c6121def/0ec090120be4924d-4a/s1280x1920/b639916578c354953baece9cd5460cfdc9755a0b.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/6769df5e9b841f4351d1badd883f9ccb/0ec090120be4924d-2a/s2048x3072/77d1a13384e5261a163b8f2a36deb48839fe6fe3.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/ab1c57da4c3bf36a4eb469254cadc4b7/0ec090120be4924d-ec/s1280x1920/efed936240d417432bdd94fb4e0aefca661b5e2a.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/0f7027774f67b523c671f2b48bcd3ed5/f58a42fedc911f81-62/s1280x1920/313be595d111e3e7533fcca0827e6275e8879886.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/36137cf3a503d00cd96f35d160b53a12/c763afddb9b459bd-0a/s1280x1920/5273b9acb76963eeccf093b8e7fea75beed06608.jpg



Very Unlikely, In Northern Slavic countries there are almost no Gypsies, Except Slovakia (5-10% of Population) and Czech Republic
I searched and 12 He is Central Asian/Russian Asian Republics by his last name.
7 and 10 Ukrainian or Belarusian surnames, or how to differentiate them
Thank you for your thorough investigation man, where would I be without it? Do you think I would include him if he was Central Asian? I obviously checked surnames and origin, or I would include foreign players that played for Belarus.

Please tell me his "Central Asian" surname though, because his surname is typically East Slavic lol and comes from a Slavic word, so I'd love to know how that works? More Belarusians with the name:

https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D1%8F%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%9E
https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D1%8F%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0

https://familio.org/api/v1/images/surnames/78b6a746-962b-4ffd-95cc-7627c647d4f3.png

Also, bro what about him looks "exotic" he is a typical pred. Pontid from the region (with gorid/baltid mixture), he is nothing special for Belarus much less Ukraine. Compare him to the darker examples among these Northern Ukrainians from an adjacent region to Belarus:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/e4f279b7a2511a44cc4c778de481a644/fa899d817d06d46a-2e/s2048x3072/ef90d95bcf9b7f56d29b3e7774fbed94e03c578d.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/07f3a1a9c657342663d814c314778ba4/fa899d817d06d46a-df/s2048x3072/8216bc6befbb27178c11b1447635cfc1cabfef25.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/74f16636704e04376f99723a87f77076/86e880f26e53af0a-68/s2048x3072/a0e7ecdcbb19e01bae250cd1ad382981ef527b3a.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/06e9bb28efa11fe71da29cd1129ddd43/86e880f26e53af0a-aa/s2048x3072/7dab5b118824c6e0d35e7a9050af54669c2517a1.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/afb445b36569010bc81986357415ccd6/86e880f26e53af0a-54/s2048x3072/2df7137ab2afa79eab9f1cac41d0504f6dcac610.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/eb236aabd83005c1cd3865ee458570a6/fa899d817d06d46a-ce/s2048x3072/895e20aa4e9771eba9cce618c7e89b1cdc7adef8.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/ebb01ebffb8db93a812b49466d8eb9a3/fa899d817d06d46a-5e/s2048x3072/1a67bfb7e03f55a6396735a7735499033f002702.jpg

Now compare him to Southern Ukraine where such types are even more typical:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?381659-Old-Soviet-Anthropological-Plates-of-Ukrainians-vs-Modern-Examples&p=7939877&viewfull=1#post7939877


I’ve never met a Ukrainian looking like him.
Compare him to many Ukrainian Dinarid types seen in these samples:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?381659-Old-Soviet-Anthropological-Plates-of-Ukrainians-vs-Modern-Examples&p=7909495&viewfull=1#post7909495
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?381659-Old-Soviet-Anthropological-Plates-of-Ukrainians-vs-Modern-Examples&p=7909123&viewfull=1#post7909123

[andrzej]

They pass within their ethnic group (Rus), except guy #7 who is non-European. Ethnic groups they are most similar: Lithuanians, Latvians

#1: proto-Corded
#2: Corded-Dinaric
#3: Med
#4: Baltid mixed with Corded (could well be Swedish)
#5: Corded-Med
#6: Corded altered by Baltid
#7: (foreigner) North/South Caucasian
#8: Baltid-Corded-Turanid (typical for South Ukraine)
#9: Med with unusual hair (dyed?)
#10: looks Romanian (mostly ENF derived, with a bit of Baltid)
#11: Baltid altered by Corded
#12: Pontid-Indid (gypsy admixed)
#13: unmixed Aryan (proto-"nordic")
#14: Corded altered by Baltid
#15: Med + CM
#16: Baltid altered by Corded
#17: pure Pontid
#18: Baltid with a very Polish vibe

Thank you, you're the first person to actually classify. 7 isn't a foreigner, he's Belarusian and given that many Ukrainians look like that and I have seen Belarusians that look like that, I'm not sure why you conclude that.

Also Rus is not an ethnic group, anymore than Cucuteni-Trypillians are.

Also Aryan vs. Corded, I don't understand the difference?

[reddragon]

No, and they're not unusual for the region. You understand that darker individuals in Malta are different, and have different origins, than darker individuals in Eastern Europe? Especially East Slavic nations? So how does it make sense to compare the two? They look off to you because you don't know what people from the region look like to begin with..

If you think those people look like Gypsies, especially 10 who has one of the most common phenotypes, then I guess Ukraine is a pretty Gypsy country by your logic:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/81092c45d1837c4707215d12a0c87e2e/0ec090120be4924d-b2/s1280x1920/8644e6219599beefcf638da1018e535ae55e273c.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/08107d08ef81e4eb6acd42a1c6121def/0ec090120be4924d-4a/s1280x1920/b639916578c354953baece9cd5460cfdc9755a0b.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/6769df5e9b841f4351d1badd883f9ccb/0ec090120be4924d-2a/s2048x3072/77d1a13384e5261a163b8f2a36deb48839fe6fe3.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/ab1c57da4c3bf36a4eb469254cadc4b7/0ec090120be4924d-ec/s1280x1920/efed936240d417432bdd94fb4e0aefca661b5e2a.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/0f7027774f67b523c671f2b48bcd3ed5/f58a42fedc911f81-62/s1280x1920/313be595d111e3e7533fcca0827e6275e8879886.jpghttps://64.media.tumblr.com/36137cf3a503d00cd96f35d160b53a12/c763afddb9b459bd-0a/s1280x1920/5273b9acb76963eeccf093b8e7fea75beed06608.jpg




Are these guys Ukrainian?? Wow many of them look Central Asian or Middle Eastern.

[Feiichy]

Very alien faces.

[Tooting Carmen]

While as a group they look pretty Slavic, oddly enough some of them would pass quite well as Irish.

[Valenman]

Are these guys Ukrainian?? Wow many of them look Central Asian or Middle Eastern.

In Russia and Ukraine there are 200 native and "foreign" ethnic groups and even more that passed through their lands from 1700 until now. And most of them consider themselves Slavs. I met several Russians and some Ukrainians in Spain and Almost all of them were polyethnic, that is, they had grandparents and were of different ethnicities, such as a Russian grandfather, a Bashkir great-grandmother, and another German grandfather, but they all considered themselves Ukrainian and Russian, respectively. I think that, except in France and Turkey, it doesn't happen anywhere else in Europe. As far as I know, in Spain for example it is much rarer to have a Grandfather from another country or ethnicity for example. That is why the Eastern Slavs in general are much more phenotypically diverse than the Poles for example where there were not as many migrations, conquests and they did not settle. so many ethnic groups

[aherne]

Thank you, you're the first person to actually classify. 7 isn't a foreigner, he's Belarusian and given that many Ukrainians look like that and I have seen Belarusians that look like that, I'm not sure why you conclude that.

Also Rus is not an ethnic group, anymore than Cucuteni-Trypillians are.

Also Aryan vs. Corded, I don't understand the difference?

Corded is the more gracilized and Med-like variant of Aryan race, who had robust CM-like features like guy #13. Today these features are very uncommon...

Rus is an ethnic group encompassing Little/Great/White Russians, who are now speaking barely intelligible languages but used to have a common past. You can consider them as distinct ethnicities using language, but in my personal opinion they have too much in common to be considered separate:
- more or less the same culture/food
- more or less the same look which is the definition of Slavic-ness
- shared Russian identity until 1900s

[aherne]

Very alien faces.

Notice how even brunet ones look more similar to Caucasians than to us Balkanites

[Feiichy]

Notice how even brunet ones look more similar to Caucasians than to us Balkanites

Indeed! Dark ones look even more alien. I tought some are Caucasian or Afghan.