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drb234
03-31-2024, 08:32 PM
https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/0fd4e349-9a0b-4960-a64a-a78c96cb5f9a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=298&w=590&ddaae985

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/1b/d4/ec/1bd4ec89cc1149c57d2587a3d51b6c14.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2GJEJ78/varg-vikernes-during-his-trial-in-oslo-norway-varg-vikernes-was-born-kristian-vikernes-on-february-11-1973-outside-of-bergen-norway-known-by-the-nom-de-plume-count-grishnackh-during-the-early-days-of-black-metal-in-norway-he-is-currently-incarcerated-for-the-1993-murder-of-his-former-friend-and-member-of-the-black-metal-band-mayhem-oystein-aarseth-aka-euronymous-serving-a-sentence-of-21-years-the-maximum-possible-in-norway-and-convicted-of-the-arson-of-three-churches-in-norway-2GJEJ78.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2GJEJ76/varg-vikernes-during-his-trial-in-oslo-norway-varg-vikernes-was-born-kristian-vikernes-on-february-11-1973-outside-of-bergen-norway-known-by-the-nom-de-plume-count-grishnackh-during-the-early-days-of-black-metal-in-norway-he-is-currently-incarcerated-for-the-1993-murder-of-his-former-friend-and-member-of-the-black-metal-band-mayhem-oystein-aarseth-aka-euronymous-serving-a-sentence-of-21-years-the-maximum-possible-in-norway-and-convicted-of-the-arson-of-three-churches-in-norway-2GJEJ76.jpg

ecptr
03-31-2024, 08:40 PM
Small-nosed type

ecptr
03-31-2024, 08:45 PM
I classify him as anti-Semitic due to his anti-Semitic nose

Xacal
03-31-2024, 09:04 PM
East Nordid

Rædwald
03-31-2024, 09:53 PM
Pred. Nordid + m. Keltid

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Varg_Vikernes-2.jpg

He has a slight convexity to his nose. I don't think it's super common among Norwegians.

He's never done a DNA test, but I recall he posted one his brother took, and it was 97% Scandi, and 3% Isles or something like that.

drb234
03-31-2024, 09:56 PM
He has a slight convexity to his nose. I don't think it's super common among Norwegians.

The Tronder type commonly has convex noses due to strong Corded influence so I wouldn't say his nose is uncommon

reddragon
03-31-2024, 10:22 PM
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2GJEJ76/varg-vikernes-during-his-trial-in-oslo-norway-varg-vikernes-was-born-kristian-vikernes-on-february-11-1973-outside-of-bergen-norway-known-by-the-nom-de-plume-count-grishnackh-during-the-early-days-of-black-metal-in-norway-he-is-currently-incarcerated-for-the-1993-murder-of-his-former-friend-and-member-of-the-black-metal-band-mayhem-oystein-aarseth-aka-euronymous-serving-a-sentence-of-21-years-the-maximum-possible-in-norway-and-convicted-of-the-arson-of-three-churches-in-norway-2GJEJ76.jpg

Trans? lol looks like a typical Finn or Scandinavian to me but with softer features.

Melkiirs
03-31-2024, 11:26 PM
Pred. Nordid + m. Keltid

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Varg_Vikernes-2.jpg

He has a slight convexity to his nose. I don't think it's super common among Norwegians.

He's never done a DNA test, but I recall he posted one his brother took, and it was 97% Scandi, and 3% Isles or something like that.

Alette Schreiner found 29.6% more or less wavy profiles among her series of Norwegian females but Bryn only found 9.2% of that type among male recruits. Perhaps it is more typical in Nordic females than males, although her sampling was much more limited falling below 200 subjects for several measurements. What is very atypical in Nordics regardless of nasal profile is a downward orientated tip, with Bryn only finding 1.4% among recruits. Convexity in Nordics is associated strongly with a horizontally orientated nasal tip very different from Dinarid or Armenoid form which tends to be downward orientated. Schreiner found downward orientated nasal tips much more common in females but this was almost certainly at least in part due to a limited sample of 125 for that measurement.

Alette Schreiner's study:
https://books.google.com/books?id=O8M9AQAAIAAJ&pg=RA8-PA47&dq=norweger+bryn++wellig&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi8x6zpzJ-FAxXNFVkFHdF8A0sQ6AF6BAgGEAI#v=onepage&q=der%20nasenrucken%20wurde&f=false

Norway and Iceland compared with low frequency of downward orientated nasal tip:
https://i.ibb.co/7SN7r8y/nase.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://books.google.com/books?id=JLBpnyFBOzAC&pg=RA1-PA226&dq=norweger+bryn++wellig&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqsOXX1p-FAxWLFFkFHXuoBy4Q6AF6BAgMEAI#v=onepage&q=Abw%C3%A4rts%20norweger%20basis&f=false

PlattitüdenPaule
04-01-2024, 12:40 AM
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2GJEJ76/varg-vikernes-during-his-trial-in-oslo-norway-varg-vikernes-was-born-kristian-vikernes-on-february-11-1973-outside-of-bergen-norway-known-by-the-nom-de-plume-count-grishnackh-during-the-early-days-of-black-metal-in-norway-he-is-currently-incarcerated-for-the-1993-murder-of-his-former-friend-and-member-of-the-black-metal-band-mayhem-oystein-aarseth-aka-euronymous-serving-a-sentence-of-21-years-the-maximum-possible-in-norway-and-convicted-of-the-arson-of-three-churches-in-norway-2GJEJ76.jpg

Trans? lol looks like a typical Finn or Scandinavian to me but with softer features.

Cause he had long hair back then?

reddragon
04-01-2024, 12:43 AM
Cause he had long hair back then?

He just looks feminine and the long hair exacerbates it.

Token
04-01-2024, 12:45 AM
Hallstatt Nordic. Slightly convex nasal profiles are common among classic Nordics, only pronounced convexity as in Keltic Nordics is unusual.


Alette Schreiner found 29.6% more or less wavy profiles among her series of Norwegian females but Bryn only found 9.2% of that type among male recruits. Perhaps it is more typical in Nordic females than males, although her sampling was much more limited falling below 200 subjects for several measurements. What is very atypical in Nordics regardless of nasal profile is a downward orientated tip, with Bryn only finding 1.4% among recruits. Convexity in Nordics is associated strongly with a horizontally orientated nasal tip very different from Dinarid or Armenoid form which tends to be downward orientated. Schreiner found downward orientated nasal tips much more common in females but this was almost certainly at least in part due to a limited sample of 125 for that measurement.
Among Ghegs who are largely Dinaric, less than half of the tips are pointed downwards even in a sample set where older men are overrepresented. Most of the tips are horizontal or slightly elevated. From The Mountains of Giants:

https://i.imgur.com/enJnUC2.png

Nasal convexity among Dinarics increases with age, like downward-pointing nasal tips (due to the loosening of the soft parts with aging).

https://i.imgur.com/Ox8GZjK.png

Hence most of the distinctive features of Dinarics are a product of age. Just like their planoccipitalism is mostly a result of cradling.

https://i.imgur.com/WJS9PtY.png

https://i.imgur.com/hwGHXC6.png

The Dinaric is largely a fictitious type.

AlbonicScholar
04-01-2024, 12:54 AM
Pure Neanderthal

PlattitüdenPaule
04-01-2024, 12:54 AM
He just looks feminine and the long hair exacerbates it.

Ah ok. Well yeah admittably pure Scandos can have this kinda "Elvish" like look. Pretty sure thats where that thing in mythology comes from.