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Oliver109
04-02-2024, 03:04 PM
I have always seen Scotland as a region rather than a country, crossing the border into Scotland the architecture, culture etc do not change drastically if at all, the accent is different but so it is between Cheshire and Lancashire etc. I think that Scotland is basically a continuation of northern England in most aspects and even a lot of Northerners would identify more with Scotland than the south.

Tooting Carmen
04-02-2024, 03:12 PM
It is certainly more of a country than Wales.

Oliver109
04-02-2024, 03:22 PM
It is certainly more of a country than Wales.

Really? Yes you have more distinctive food and drink and architecture than Wales but anthropologists said that Scotland was more similar to England, just a bit paler.

Tooting Carmen
04-02-2024, 03:30 PM
Really? Yes you have more distinctive food and drink and architecture than Wales but anthropologists said that Scotland was more similar to England, just a bit paler.

Unlike Wales, Scotland actually maintained its own legal and educational systems even before being granted its own Parliament, plus said Parliament has more powers than its Welsh equivalent. Further, the Brexit vote shows a greater divergence between England and Scotland than England and Wales.

Oliver109
04-02-2024, 03:32 PM
Unlike Wales, Scotland actually maintained its own legal and educational systems even before being granted its own Parliament, plus said Parliament has more powers than its Welsh equivalent. Further, the Brexit vote shows a greater divergence between England and Scotland than England and Wales.

You can't say somewhere is a different country just because the parliament is slightly different ime, as for brexit unfortunately there hasn't been a lot of research done into the reason why no regions of Scotland voted largely in favour of brexit.

Tooting Carmen
04-02-2024, 03:34 PM
You can't say somewhere is a different country just because the parliament is slightly different ime, as for brexit unfortunately there hasn't been a lot of research done into the reason why no regions of Scotland voted largely in favour of brexit.

Because they see the EU as a bastion AGAINST English domination?

Oliver109
04-02-2024, 03:37 PM
Because they see the EU as a bastion AGAINST English domination?

Perhaps but working class Scots don't strike me as being pro immigration, if anything they would be more against it, if anything the dislike of the English in Scotland is more about the dislike of London and the prosperous commuter belt of the south east, I don't think they dislike Lancashire, Devon or Yorkshire.

Tooting Carmen
04-02-2024, 03:38 PM
Perhaps but working class Scots don't strike me as being pro immigration, if anything they would be more against it, if anything the dislike of the English in Scotland is more about the dislike of London and the prosperous commuter belt of the south east, I don't think they dislike Lancashire, Devon or Yorkshire.

Do you really think they make that much of a distinction between England's different regions?

Oliver109
04-02-2024, 03:44 PM
Do you really think they make that much of a distinction between England's different regions?

I think they do, I have read comments from Scots online and much of the stuff directed against England is basically about London and apparently the south east too taking most of the funds, many Scots seem to have a neutral or positive view of Newcastle and Yorkshire etc.

Kess
04-02-2024, 04:06 PM
England is my city and Scotland is a region.

Kess
04-02-2024, 04:10 PM
Northerners would identify more with Scotland than the south.

Sure, since they love playing bagpipes and eating haggis.

Oliver109
04-02-2024, 04:27 PM
Sure, since they love playing bagpipes and eating haggis.

Lol so should Scotland join with Galicia and call themselves one country?

Kess
04-02-2024, 04:29 PM
Lol so should Scotland join with Galicia and call themselves one country?

Gaitas =\= bagpipes

AlbonicScholar
04-04-2024, 04:55 AM
It's defiantly a separate nation of people, but just very linked to England is every possible way. The idea of a separate Scottish nation predates Britain and predates a lot of European country's sense of nationhood.