The best minimalist ancient calculator to describe every europeans

[tita]

I would say this :

Siberian:Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG:ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184 111,0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0 .018041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1252054,0.0891408,0.0 430338,0.1150967,-0.0285181,0.0453663,0.0046478,-0.002513,-0.0555623,-0.0727931,0.0006676,0.0005994,-0.0030724,-0.023564,0.0363427,0.0152183,-0.0007246,-0.0015204,-0.0039106,0.0140344,-0.0036879,0.000426,0.0109278,0.0184497,-0.0043241
ANF:Germany_EN_LBK_Stuttgart-Muhlhausen,0.12085945,0.17910245,0.016319045,-0.084097455,0.060808455,-0.040654773,-0.002318,-0.0034823182,0.044521091,0.084068773,0.0067907727, 0.011287636,-0.022968091,0.00089459091,-0.037588364,-0.0065570909,0.019450955,0.0013705455,0.013678318,-0.011443136,-0.010192409,0.0033330455,-0.0058934091,-0.0042228636,-0.0043326818
Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254


Do you think there is even a better one ?

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.15134384 Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.20141241 ANF:Germany_EN_LBK_Stuttgart-Muhlhausen
0.33215023 Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.33849884 WHG:ITA_Villabruna
0.61816062 Siberian:Nganassan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 4.9536% / 0.04953565
50.4 Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.8 ANF:Germany_EN_LBK_Stuttgart-Muhlhausen
10.8 WHG:ITA_Villabruna

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 2.5847% / 0.02584672
55.6 ANF
37.0 Yamnaya
7.4 WHG

[PaulieVanZant]

Target: Stahl
Distance: 4.2014% / 0.04201362
49.4 Yamnaya
38.2 ANF
12.4 WHG

[djipon]

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 3.7386% / 0.03738575
53.6 ANF
44.0 Yamnaya
2.2 Iran_N
0.2 WHG

[Athalafuns]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.4544% / 0.03454393
56.6 ANF
34.6 Yamnaya
8.6 WHG
0.2 Iran_N

[vader]

Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 5.0678% / 0.05067837
60.4 ANF
30.0 Yamnaya
7.8 WHG
1.2 Siberian
0.6 Iran_N

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 25.3956% / 0.25395589
41.2 Yamnaya
32.2 Siberian
24.0 ANF
2.6 Iran_N

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 4.9484% / 0.04948398
49.8 Yamnaya
36.6 ANF
13.6 WHG

A very simplistic model. Not very informative.



Target: Orcadian
Distance: 4.2662% / 0.04266156
49.6 Yamnaya
38.4 ANF
12.0 WHG

Target: Irish_Ulster
Distance: 4.9553% / 0.04955341
50.6 Yamnaya
37.2 ANF
12.2 WHG

Target: Ukrainian_Kropyvnytskyi
Distance: 5.7841% / 0.05784103
52.8 Yamnaya
35.6 ANF
11.6 WHG


Target: Slovak
Distance: 4.8425% / 0.04842480
50.2 Yamnaya
37.8 ANF
12.0 WHG

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.8920% / 0.03891961
57.8 ANF
31.0 Yamnaya
10.6 WHG
0.4 Siberian
0.2 Iran_N

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.9546% / 0.03954648
59.0 ANF
30.2 Yamnaya
10.2 WHG
0.4 Iran_N
0.2 Siberian

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 3.8948% / 0.03894782
60.4 ANF
26.6 Yamnaya
10.8 WHG
2.2 Iran_N

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 5.4171% / 0.05417096
46.6 Yamnaya
43.4 ANF
10.0 WHG

[#Oda#]

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 3.5166% / 0.03516561
50.0 Yamnaya
37.8 ANF
12.2 WHG

quite a good distance comparatively

[Figaro]

Picture me somewhere in between...

Target: CordedFather
Distance: 4.5601% / 0.04560126
48.6 Yamnaya
41.2 ANF
10.2 WHG

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 4.5824% / 0.04582417
49.6 Yamnaya
39.2 ANF
11.2 WHG

[#Oda#]

Picture me somewhere in between...


very NW European results

[frankhammer]

Target: Blowme_scaled
Distance: 3.9307% / 0.03930673
45.2 Yamnaya
42.4 ANF
12.4 WHG

[Figaro]

very NW European results

Even with my mother being 1/2 NE Euro? She is part Danish and German as well, so she's a blend. My father is all NW Euro, for all intents and purposes.

[#Oda#]

Even with my mother being 1/2 NE Euro? She is part Danish and German as well, so she's a blend. My father is all NW Euro, for all intents and purposes.

Well, there is not much difference between your father and mother. If you look at Cass‘ result, you can see that Poles must not be very far away from Germans or even NW Germans in this calc (however he's slightly more WHG). But I remember that Cass has a somewhat overaverage German proportion, when I'm hopefully not mistaken.

[Figaro]

Well, there is not much difference between your father and mother. If you look at Cass‘ result, you can see that Poles must not be very far away from Germans or even NW Germans in this calc. But I remember that Cass has a somewhat overaverage German proportion...

Ah, I see what you are saying. Yes, on calculators such as this, NW-euros and non-Uralic admixed NE euros will be very, very close.

[cass]

Well, there is not much difference between your father and mother. If you look at Cass‘ result, you can see that Poles must not be very far away from Germans or even NW Germans in this calc (however he's slightly more WHG). But I remember that Cass has a somewhat overaverage German proportion, when I'm hopefully not mistaken.

https://i.ibb.co/PwvZvcX/whgpr.jpg (https://ibb.co/4PnZn8v)
I would draw different conclusions. That's why I think it's too simplistic.

[Katarzyna]

Target: cass
Distance: 4.9484% / 0.04948398
49.8 Yamnaya
36.6 ANF
13.6 WHG

A very simplistic model. Not very informative.

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 6.1386% / 0.06138628
52.8 Yamnaya
32.0 ANF
15.2 WHG

[tita]

Target: cass
Distance: 4.9484% / 0.04948398
49.8 Yamnaya
36.6 ANF
13.6 WHG

A very simplistic model. Not very informative.

ANF and Iran_N are not at all the same, look

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe#Autosomal_DNA


According to geneticist David Reich, based on ancient human genomes that his laboratory sequenced in 2016, Europeans descend from a mixture of four West-Eurasian ancestral components, namely WHG (Western Hunter-gatherers), EHG (Eastern Hunter-gatherers), Neolithic farmers from the Levant/Anatolia as well as from Neolithic farmers from Iran (often summarized as "EEF"; Early European farmers), in varying degrees.

[cass]

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 6.1386% / 0.06138628
52.8 Yamnaya
32.0 ANF
15.2 WHG

Samples with 15% WHG.
https://i.ibb.co/7S0B8Fv/whgpr2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[cass]

ANF and Iran_N are not at all the same, look

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe#Autosomal_DNA

Hardly a surprise
https://i.ibb.co/HgmpS5s/ira.jpg (https://ibb.co/vz2vF0G)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-33067-w

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

Target: Mopi_scaled
Distance: 2.9616% / 0.02961614
51.8 ANF
40.6 Yamnaya
7.4 WHG
0.2 Siberian

Distance to: Mopi_scaled
0.15713006 ANF:Germany_EN_LBK_Stuttgart-Muhlhausen
0.18114904 Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.31968330 Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.35589040 WHG:ITA_Villabruna
0.61559276 Siberian:Nganassan

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

why are some of us Iberians/part Iberians scoring Siberian on this calculator ?

[Julkka]

Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 5.6482% / 0.05648155
49.4 Yamnaya
22.2 ANF
20.6 WHG
7.8 Siberian

[cass]

why are some of us Iberians/part Iberians scoring Siberian on this calculator ?

Maybe other important samples are missing and the simplified model looks for the closest sources?

[Lemurian]

Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 3.5359% / 0.03535916
55.0 ANF
43.8 Yamnaya
1.2 Iran_N

I'm not sure what this data actually means though

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

Maybe other important samples are missing and the simplified model looks for the closest sources?

it could well be something like that :)

[#Oda#]

https://i.ibb.co/PwvZvcX/whgpr.jpg (https://ibb.co/4PnZn8v)
I would draw different conclusions. That's why I think it's too simplistic.

I anticipated you wouldnt like my message. Take it easy. :p

[cass]

I anticipated you wouldnt like my message. Take it easy. :p


It's quite the opposite. You are one of the few Germans here without a neophyte complex.

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 5.6837% / 0.05683737
49.8 ANF:Germany_EN_LBK_Stuttgart-Muhlhausen
44.0 Yamnaya:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.0 WHG:ITA_Villabruna
0.2 Siberian:Nganassan

[Kess]

Target: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 4.9150% / 0.04914960
40.8 ANF
30.4 Iran_N
24.6 Yamnaya
4.2 Siberian

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 5.4672% / 0.05467227
57.6 ANF
32.4 Yamnaya
7.2 WHG
1.8 Iran_N
1.0 Siberian

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 5.9688% / 0.05968845
59.0 ANF
27.0 Yamnaya
9.2 WHG
3.0 Iran_N
1.8 Siberian

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 4.6922% / 0.04692216
58.4 ANF
32.8 Yamnaya
8.2 WHG
0.6 Siberian

[Rædwald]

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 4.0337% / 0.04033722
47.2 Yamnaya
41.0 ANF
11.6 WHG
0.2 Siberian

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 4.0345% / 0.04034500 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.4 Yamnaya
41.0 ANF
11.6 WHG

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 4.0345% / 0.04034500 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Yamnaya
41.0 ANF
11.6 WHG

[PLogan]

Target: AimSmall_scaled
Distance: 5.8442% / 0.05844202 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Yamnaya
43.0 ANF
9.4 WHG

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 4.5040% / 0.04503973 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Yamnaya
42.0 ANF
10.4 WHG

Target: Mother_scaled
Distance: 5.4007% / 0.05400705 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.2 Yamnaya
42.6 ANF
10.2 WHG

[hazmatnik]

Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 5.7817% / 0.05781685
55.0 ANF
40.8 Yamnaya
4.2 WHG

[Pater Patota]

Target: PaterPatota_scaled
Distance: 4.3670% / 0.04367034 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6 ANF
35.8 Iran_N
17.6 Yamnaya
2.0 Siberian