How Good Is YSEQ Clade Finder in Finding the Specific Clade?

[Kess]

I uploaded my Y-SNP raw data and it looks like this:

https://i.ibb.co/yf1KN2F/Ekran-Resmi-2024-04-11-23-23-13.png

Is there a more strong specific prediction other than R-CTS1450?

FTDNA already told me that I'm r-cts9219 which is also known as r-cts1450.

[Laredo]

So you are R1b? Interesting you have a European haplogroup while I have a middle eastern one lol.

[Kess]

So you are R1b? Interesting you have a European haplogroup while I have a middle eastern one lol.

Nothing uncommon, R is the most frequent haplogroup in people who have Turkish names and surnames according to FTDNA data.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tIy-068xs3Q/TDhtCl8dGoI/AAAAAAAABSE/iaMG_ej3BFY/s1600/haplo_6864_image002.png

[Beowulf]

So you are R1b? Interesting you have a European haplogroup while I have a middle eastern one lol.

R1b is not unique of Europe but it has also been in Turkey since ancient times.

[Laredo]

R1b is not unique of Europe but it has also been in Turkey since ancient times.

How common are Germanic haplogroups In Spain? would you say are less frequent than mena or north african origin?

[Kess]

How common are Germanic haplogroups In Spain? would you say are less frequent than mena or north african origin?

“The Visigothic Kingdom was the larger and longer lived than the Suebi Kingdom, and yet the Goths do not seem to have had any significant genetic impact on the Iberian population - at least not in terms of Germanic Y-DNA”

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml

[Beowulf]

How common are Germanic haplogroups In Spain? would you say are less frequent than mena or north african origin?


hmmm the closest thing to that is what they posted in Eupedia forum in 2013 in a regional level the issue is that apart of being quite outdated is also the sample size wich it ain't that big enough so if someone does an specific study about such specific topic probably the percentages that i will show may change:



Aragon (n=34)

I1 = 2 (6%)
I2b1 = 1 (3%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 5 (14.7%)

Asturias (n=20)

I1 = 1 (5%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 2 (10%)


Basque Country (n=116)

I1 = 1 (0.85%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 14 (12%)


Catalonia (n=80)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 5 (6.25%)


Castilla La Mancha (n=63)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 9 (14.2%)


East Andalusia (n=95)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 1 (1%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 8 (8%)


Extremadura (n=52)

I1 = 3 (6%)
I2b1 = 1 (2%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 4 (8%)


Galicia (n=88)

I1 = 4 (4.5%)
I2b1 = 2 (2.2%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 8 (9%)


Northeast Castille (n=31)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 3 (9.6%)


North Portugal (n=60)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 1 (1.6%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 5 (8.3%)


Northwest Castille (n=100)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 1 (1%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 8 (8%)


South Portugal (n=78)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 5 (6.4%)


Valencia (n=73)

I1 = 3 (4.1%)
I2b1 = 1 (1.3%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 7 (9.5%)


West Andalusia (n=73)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 1 (1.3%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 7 (9.6%)


Ibiza (n=54)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 5 (9.2%)


Majorca (n=62)

I1 = 3 (4.8%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 6 (9.6%)


Minorca (n=37)

I1 = 0 (0%)
I2b1 = 0 (0%)
R1b3 S21 (DYS390=23) = 4 (10.8%)
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/estimating-germanic-y-dna-in-iberia.28932/



certainly Haplogroups such as J or E are a bit more common although many J or E subclades are basically European too, it kinda depends on the clade tho.

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml#frequency

But as i said this is quite outdated already so take it with a grain of salt.

[Laredo]

“The Visigothic Kingdom was the larger and longer lived than the Suebi Kingdom, and yet the Goths do not seem to have had any significant genetic impact on the Iberian population - at least not in terms of Germanic Y-DNA”

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml

Seems not much I expected, would've been cool If it was the Catalans who conquered us than Castilians since they are the most Northern /Germanic shift of all Spaniards.

Perhaps stronger Atlantic and less med or Gracile Mediterranean admixtures.

[Kess]

Seems not much I expected, would've been cool If it was the Catalans who conquered us than Castilians since they are the most Northern /Germanic shift of all Spaniards.

Perhaps stronger Atlantic and less med or Gracile Mediterranean admixtures.

The Visigoths conquered Iberia, but their genetic influence isn't significant. What makes you believe Catalans would have had a greater impact? It's about becoming the majority, not just conquest.

[Laredo]

The Visigoths conquered Iberia, but their genetic influence isn't significant. What makes you believe Catalans would have had a greater impact? It's about becoming the majority, not just conquest.

Because from studies and from what I know Catalans are the Spaniards with higher Atlantic component which Is pretty much Northern European.

Castilians and Andalusians have less and are more Mediterranean on average.

[Kess]

Because from studies and from what I know Catalans are the Spaniards with higher Atlantic component which Is pretty much Northern European.

Ok. I understood that.

What makes you think Catalans would be the majority of Spaniards if they had conquered Spain?

[Beowulf]

Ok. I understood that.

What makes you think Catalans would be the majority of Spaniards if they had conquered Spain?

I'm pretty sure he meant 'what if Castillians, andalusians and other western iberians settled way less than Catalans in Latin America'

[Kess]

I'm pretty sure he meant 'what if Castillians, andalusians and other western iberians settled way less than Catalans in Latin America'

Thanks for the clarification.

Since Castille played a significant role in the unification of Spain, I mixed things up.

[BoredBalkanMan]

It said that I have an I1 haplogroup with the branch being I-P109 :eek:
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