Otto von Bismarck as a young

[rothaer]

Incredible but true: Today I for the first time in my life saw Otto v. Bismarck as a young.

https://i.imgur.com/0XKTsNj.jpeg

Feel free to comment, classify and passify.

[Token]

East Baltic-Borreby combination, the classic Junker look.

[#Oda#]

....

I bet you love his potato face :p

Here is another one:
https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/otto-von-bismarck-7.jpg

[Scarface F]

Incredible but true: Today I for the first time in my life saw Otto v. Bismarck as a young.

https://i.imgur.com/0XKTsNj.jpeg

Feel free to comment, classify and passify.

Looks heavily Slavic in this pic, especially the sad eyes and general expression. Almost like a Russian aristocrat

[Scarface F]

He looks North Pontid/Borreby in the pic, Baltic not visible and he seems long faced

Proof how getting fat in middle age can completely change somebody "phenotype" and how anthropology is a pseudo science

[#Oda#]

He looks North Pontid/Borreby in the pic, Baltic not visible and he seems long faced

Proof how getting fat in middle age can completely change somebody "phenotype" and how anthropology is a pseudo science

No, he isnt long faced. Look in my link!

[Scarface F]

No, he isnt long faced. Look in my link!

I don't get it, pic you post looks like completely different person and typical Polish Alpinid-Baltid aka. Gorid potato head.

[#Oda#]

I don't get it, pic you post looks like completely different person and typical Polish Alpinid-Baltid aka. Gorid potato head.

Yes, there he looks like what we call a Quadratschädel.

[CordedWhelp]

Looks like me a bit, lol.

[rothaer]

I bet you love his potato face :p


Because I liked Dönitz' look? I think there are many different ways to look respectable and I think that Bismarck does but I don't think that is tied to any particular type. Btw. I consider Dr. Werner Best good looking in all aspects. What exactly do you mean with "potato face"? Alpinid? We do have a lot of anthropological terms here so I think that could be clearer expressed.

However, respectable looking or not, I do have a lot of reservations regarding v. Bismarck as for what he did. I think of the German War in 1866 and the deliberate destruction of the entity representing Germany and that was the successor of the German Empire, i. e. the German Confederation. Likely nobody till this very day would have got the idea to split off Austria. It was an extremely unpatriotic move from a German point of view. Since Frederick the Great - seemingly a closet homo - and his sacrilegs the Prussian establishment that felt obligated to defend his unlawful actions was poisoned by the loss of the sense for right and wrong.

[Scarface F]

Looks like me a bit, lol.

Agree, in pic rothaer posted he does.

[Scarface F]

Quadratschädel.

that's very German :lmao:

[#Oda#]

that's very German :lmao:

:D

[#Oda#]

Because I liked Dönitz' look? I think there are many different ways to look respectable and I think that Bismarck does but I don't think that is tied to any particular type. Btw. I consider Dr. Werner Best good looking in all aspects.
No, not because of Dönitz - he looks totally different. I consider Bismarck looking respectable as well and I also do not think that this is tied to a particular type.


What exactly do you mean with "potato face"? Alpinid? We do have a lot of anthropological terms here so I think that could be clearer expressed.
A broad face. I‘m not very familiar with the classification terms.


However, respectable looking or not, I do have a lot of reservations regarding v. Bismarck as for what he did. I think of the German War in 1866 and the deliberate destruction of the entity representing Germany and that was the successor of the German Empire, i. e. the German Confederation. Likely nobody till this very day would have got the idea to split off Austria. It was an extremely unpatriotic move from a German point of view. Since Frederick the Great - seemingly a closet homo - and his sacrilegs the Prussian establishment that felt obligated to defend his unlawful actions was poisoned by the loss of the sense for right and wrong.
Never forget the side blows on non-heteros.

[Mortimer]

I think either Borreby or West-Baltid (I sometimes cannot discern the two properly). He has Hunter Eyes.

[rothaer]

(...)
Never forget the side blows on non-heteros.

I'd feel uncomfortable if there would be the impression that this was an unrelated side blow and I admit that such an impression here easily can arise.

I actually consider it related because from my observations homosexuals are more prone to violating rules than are heterosexuals. It will not be connected to homosexuality per se but simply to the situation that someone anyhow is not in concordance with common basic views. So some kind of variation of the broken-windows theory.

Frederick the Great's unlawful attack on Austria (1741) in order to rob Silesia was a scandal throughout Germany's ruling circles. And when he much later got asked why he really did it - there had been presented a ridicolous pretext - he answered that he also wanted to be mentioned in the newspapers. Considering that a number of following wars were based on the Silesia robbery, among them even the Seven Year's War, which sometimes is also considered the first World War in history, this deed and attitude is remarkable.

[rothaer]

that's very German :lmao:

Well, it's not that more slender human type from warmer regions where you can have much surface compared to your volume and hence a comparably big temperature exchange with the environment. It's more a constitution formed by a colder climate.

(Precautionary: Considering the latitudes the British Isles and Scandinavia are comparably warm due to the Gulf stream.)

[Hektor12]

Wide forehead suggesting Baltic type but we cant make sure since we cant clearly see jawline and mouth area. However, seemingly in any case CM is predominant component.

[#Oda#]

I'd feel uncomfortable if there would be the impression that this was an unrelated side blow and I admit that such an impression here easily can arise.

I actually consider it related because from my observations homosexuals are more prone to violating rules than are heterosexuals. It will not be connected to homosexuality per se but simply to the situation that someone anyhow is not in concordance with common basic views. So some kind of variation of the broken-windows theory.

Frederick the Great's unlawful attack on Austria (1741) in order to rob Silesia was a scandal throughout Germany's ruling circles. And when he much later got asked why he really did it - there had been presented a ridicolous pretext - he answered that he also wanted to be mentioned in the newspapers. Considering that a number of following wars were based on the Silesia robbery, among them even the Seven Year's War, which sometimes is also considered the first World War in history, this deed and attitude is remarkable.

Here is a good and detailed article about F. den Großen and if he might have been homosexual or not:
https://www.spsg.de/blog/article/2022/06/29/dont-ask-dont-tell-war-friedrich-der-grosse-schwul/

[#Oda#]

I don't get it, pic you post looks like completely different person and typical Polish Alpinid-Baltid aka. Gorid potato head.

It's the beard pulling his face longer.

[Scarface F]

It's the beard pulling his face longer.

#Oda# you don't seem to like "Prussians"? Is there historic anti-Prussian sentiment in your region or what?

[Scarface F]

Well, it's not that more slender human type from warmer regions where you can have much surface compared to your volume and hence a comparably big temperature exchange with the environment. It's more a constitution formed by a colder climate.

(Precautionary: Considering the latitudes the British Isles and Scandinavia are comparably warm due to the Gulf stream.)

Nordid = depigmented Somali :halo:

[#Oda#]

#Oda# you don't seem to like "Prussians"? Is there historic anti-Prussian sentiment in your region or what?

There was a war my dear, but in spite of that I have not more or less against them than many other powers. If so, it would be more the 7 Years War.

[#Oda#]

#Oda# you don't seem to like "Prussians"? Is there historic anti-Prussian sentiment in your region or what?

Why do you think that? Because I wrote Bismarck has a Quadratschädel? I appreciate much of him. (My English is bad today.)

[Scarface F]

There was a war my dear, but in spite of that I have not more or less against them than many other powers. If so, it would be more the 7 Years War.

I think you wrote once Kingdom of Hanover didn't want to become part of Prussia or something like that :p

[#Oda#]

I think you wrote once Kingdom of Hanover didn't want to become part of Prussia or something like that :p
There I was referring to that war. We were forced to join in 1866 - annexted. Google Battle of Langensalza.

[Scarface F]

There I was referring to that war. We were forced to join in 1866 - annexted. Google Battle of Langensalza.

Interesting. I just read Hanover was in personal Union with Great Britain. LOOL rotaher will get a heart attack!!!!

:roll::lmao:laugh2:

[#Oda#]

Interesting. I just read Hanover was in personal Union with Great Britain. LOOL rotaher will get a heart attack!!!!

:roll::lmao:laugh2:

Indeed! It was for a quite long time. But rothaer will know this for sure.

[#Oda#]

I'd feel uncomfortable if there would be the impression that this was an unrelated side blow and I admit that such an impression here easily can arise.

I actually consider it related because from my observations homosexuals are more prone to violating rules than are heterosexuals. It will not be connected to homosexuality per se but simply to the situation that someone anyhow is not in concordance with common basic views. So some kind of variation of the broken-windows theory.

Frederick the Great's unlawful attack on Austria (1741) in order to rob Silesia was a scandal throughout Germany's ruling circles. And when he much later got asked why he really did it - there had been presented a ridicolous pretext - he answered that he also wanted to be mentioned in the newspapers. Considering that a number of following wars were based on the Silesia robbery, among them even the Seven Year's War, which sometimes is also considered the first World War in history, this deed and attitude is remarkable.

I edited my reply and gave instead a link.