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Hungarian_master
04-26-2024, 09:45 AM
Some days ago, I have been in a exhibition about the Romani culture. I seen there great draws, which are inspired by the "Cigány mesék" (Gypsy tales) animated series, which represents the Gypsy folklore, and the star guest was Dezső Szegedi, who are an actor with Gypsy ancestry (I will make another thread about him) and there was also a Gypsy fashion show with traditional Gypsy motifs.

These photos were made of the latter and this group would be great for a taxonomy thread. The girls are vocational high school students from a Baptist high school of Miskolc.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=129346&d=1714124407
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=129347&d=1714124422
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=129348&d=1714124435

The end of the exhibition, the guests could taste the Gypsy bread (Bodag) with sauce. This girl brought the sauces:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=129349&d=1714124740

Blondie
04-26-2024, 10:05 AM
I will visit the Happy Pipi, LL Junior's restaurant. Thats the real gypsie burger :thumb001:

Mortimer
04-26-2024, 10:19 AM
Cool thank you for the positive represantation the significantly indian contribution to the Gypsy genome is visible they look brown

Avicenna
04-26-2024, 10:57 AM
Cool thank you for the positive represantation the significantly indian contribution to the Gypsy genome is visible they look brown

They look lighter than west Asians

thisismyaccount
04-26-2024, 01:05 PM
They look lighter than west Asians

Most look pretty within west asians though in terms of skin colour?

Blondie
04-26-2024, 01:14 PM
I think the last girl looks like an amerindian from LATAM.

thisismyaccount
04-26-2024, 01:14 PM
Some of these look more like west asians though?

In first picture the girl with red hair looks turkish. The girl next to her can perhaps pass as syrian. Next girl looks pakistani. The girl next to her just looks gypsy distinctly. Next one could probably pass in Turkey, while the last girl just looks european.


For next picture, from right to left, first girl looks european. Next one looks distinctly gypsy, but can probably pass as punjabi too. I cant see the next girl properly, but the other girl looks sort of south asian. The girl next to her can probably pass in Turkey, while the girl with fake hair can probably pass between iran and turkey. The rest I already said what they could pass for.


For third picture, right to left, first girl looks turkish and Armenian. Next girl looks straight up indian. The 3 other girls look like they can easily pass in northwest asia, like Armenia, turkey. The girl in red dress looks distinctly gypsy.



Mix of west asian, south asian and even european appearances.

Avicenna
04-26-2024, 01:55 PM
Most look pretty within west asians though in terms of skin colour?

Not really, there's quite a few with a pinky rosy skin tone and Slavic like appearance.

Valenman
04-26-2024, 02:15 PM
I think the last girl looks like an amerindian from LATAM.


I live in Spain where there are millions of Latin American foreigners, and the last girl doesn't look very Latin, much less Peruvian, Bolivian or Ecuadorian with High Ameridian genetics

thisismyaccount
04-26-2024, 02:27 PM
Not really, there's quite a few with a pinky rosy skin tone and Slavic like appearance.

That's only one of them, the fat girl In first picture. The others are just pale or wheat white, which is typical for west asians. I only spot 2-3 european looking girls, rest dont look more european than west asian

Mortimer
04-26-2024, 02:35 PM
Some of these look more like west asians though?

In first picture the girl with red hair looks turkish. The girl next to her can perhaps pass as syrian. Next girl looks pakistani. The girl next to her just looks gypsy distinctly. Next one could probably pass in Turkey, while the last girl just looks european.


For next picture, from right to left, first girl looks european. Next one looks distinctly gypsy, but can probably pass as punjabi too. I cant see the next girl properly, but the other girl looks sort of south asian. The girl next to her can probably pass in Turkey, while the girl with fake hair can probably pass between iran and turkey. The rest I already said what they could pass for.


For third picture, right to left, first girl looks turkish and Armenian. Next girl looks straight up indian. The 3 other girls look like they can easily pass in northwest asia, like Armenia, turkey. The girl in red dress looks distinctly gypsy.



Mix of west asian, south asian and even european appearances.

Do you think this girl looks distinctly Gypsy or southasian? She is from serbia

https://i.ibb.co/YWWWJZT/Screenshot-2024-04-26-16-29-43-992-com-facebook-katana.jpg (https://ibb.co/wLLL8sr)

Avicenna
04-26-2024, 02:53 PM
That's only one of them, the fat girl In first picture. The others are just pale or wheat white, which is typical for west asians. I only spot 2-3 european looking girls, rest dont look more european than west asian

No it's not, second and third picture you have a few that look full blown Romanian/Hungarian.

Mortimer
04-26-2024, 03:03 PM
No it's not, second and third picture you have a few that look full blown Romanian/Hungarian.

Maybe a few are mixed to me most look a shade of brown and dark hair i think as group its visible i think i said nothing wrong

thisismyaccount
04-26-2024, 03:32 PM
No it's not, second and third picture you have a few that look full blown Romanian/Hungarian.

Tell me some others then

Yes, the girl on far right can pass as european, so can the short girl in middle too. But they can also pass in example Armenia and Turkey too.

Avicenna
04-26-2024, 03:56 PM
Tell me some others then

Yes, the girl on far right can pass as european, so can the short girl in middle too. But they can also pass in example Armenia and Turkey too.

https://i.ibb.co/Wpc0t1f/IMG-20240426-165525.jpg (https://ibb.co/1J9M6xT)
https://i.ibb.co/Jkr0SXx/IMG-20240426-165543.jpg (https://ibb.co/KyVR8CN)
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thisismyaccount
04-26-2024, 04:04 PM
https://i.ibb.co/Wpc0t1f/IMG-20240426-165525.jpg (https://ibb.co/1J9M6xT)
https://i.ibb.co/Jkr0SXx/IMG-20240426-165543.jpg (https://ibb.co/KyVR8CN)
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How does the girl with fake blonde hair pass for european in the first picture? She looks way more turkish. I never denied the girl on far right looks european. The girl next to her that you picked, I cant tell.


The 3 girls you picked, can also pass in west asia easily. Like Armenia and turkey


What I meant is that I want you to pick examples of girls with rosy pink skin. They all seem just pale.


Edit: I just realised you picked the girl in red dress as european looking. Where does she pass in Europe?
I was only talking about the girls, not everyone. The elderly man you picked up, might not even be gypsy.

Hungarian_master
04-26-2024, 05:37 PM
Cool thank you for the positive represantation the significantly indian contribution to the Gypsy genome is visible they look brown

What about the phenotypes?

Mortimer
04-26-2024, 06:04 PM
What about the phenotypes?

I do not see their faces from all full views what do you think you were in real life there

Hungarian_master
04-26-2024, 06:11 PM
I do not see their faces from all full views what do you think you were in real life there

Gracile Indid, Veddoid, Alpinid, Dinarid and Pontid influences.

Varda
04-26-2024, 10:24 PM
South Asian - West Asian - Euro mix, typical for Gypsies.

Mortimer
04-27-2024, 04:02 AM
Gracile Indid, Veddoid, Alpinid, Dinarid and Pontid influences.


South Asian - West Asian - Euro mix, typical for Gypsies.

Roma are not exactly Indians. They originated in India but that was over 1500 years ago, they are a distinct ethnic group not exactly indians.
Some like the Welsh Romani cluster in Northwestern Europe even, the other romani more or less inbetween southasia, middle east, central asia and europe, but not in india, you see they are not in india.
Roma are a population of their own like Ashkenazi Jews, due to their mixed ancestry of European, Asian and Middle Eastern heritage.

https://i.ibb.co/QnVKL6c/Romani-West-Eurasia-Plot.jpg (https://ibb.co/L6yZmCP)

chinshen
04-27-2024, 01:55 PM
They look lighter than west Asians, but not nearly as light as Afghans and Scandinavians.

You didn't complete your sentence for some reason, so I finished it for you.

chinshen
04-27-2024, 02:00 PM
Most look pretty within west asians though in terms of skin colour?

True, but feature wise they resemble Indian and Pakistanis the most accept for the ones who look Europeans of course which most likely they have heavy European Balkan admixture.

Avicenna
04-27-2024, 02:46 PM
You didn't complete your sentence for some reason, so I finished it for you.

Yeah your average Afghan

https://i.ibb.co/SnbwnHw/Screenshot-20240427-132548.jpg (https://ibb.co/7WPtWBt)
https://i.ibb.co/F3yX7gT/Screenshot-20240320-125311.jpg (https://ibb.co/LRcrpn7)

Sarmale
04-27-2024, 02:57 PM
Some of these can be Latina in the US.

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 03:07 PM
True, but feature wise they resemble Indian and Pakistanis the most accept for the ones who look Europeans of course which most likely they have heavy European Balkan admixture.

Most of the girls kind of pass better in west asia + europe than South Asia though? Like 12/18

aherne
04-27-2024, 03:12 PM
They barely have anything Indian. Maybe DNA tests that say they are 75% European, 25% Indian are correct...

Avicenna
04-27-2024, 03:23 PM
Most of the girls kind of pass better in west asia + europe than South Asia though? Like 12/18

Nah bro, they really don't resemble Pakistanis. They look more like Kurds, Syrian etc. definitely not Indian and certainly not Pakistani.

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 03:28 PM
Nah bro, they really don't resemble Pakistanis. They look more like Kurds, Syrian etc. definitely not Indian and certainly not Pakistani.

The remaining 1/3 do seem to pass better as ethnic south asians, even if lighter. The last girl. Glasses girl in third picture especially, but also sort of girl in red dress. Though she looks more distinctly gypsy, she passes better in South Asia than as typical in west asia.

The girl with blue and red fruits on her shirt looks very punjabi in the first picture. The girl next to her not wearing white shirt doesnt look south asian or west asian. She looks distinctly gypsy, but I just count her as south asian looking.
In second picture, the fourth smiling girl from right towards left resembles more lighter nw south asians than west asians.

chinshen
04-27-2024, 03:35 PM
Nah bro, they really don't resemble Pakistanis. They look more like Kurds, Syrian etc. definitely not Indian and certainly not Pakistani.

They don't really look like either Kurds or Syrians and they do have more Pakistani & Indian look.

Gypsies do not only exist in Europe only, but also in West Asia too. The only difference is that in West Asia they are integrated and considered as part of the host ethnic group if they share the same religion as their host.

Aren't you confusing native West Asians with probably West Asians with Gypsy background? Not everyone who claims West Asian background is indigenous.

chinshen
04-27-2024, 03:39 PM
The remaining 1/3 do seem to pass better as ethnic south asians, even if lighter. The last girl. Glasses girl in third picture especially, but also sort of girl in red dress. Though she looks more distinctly gypsy, she passes better in South Asia than as typical in west asia.

The girl with blue and red fruits on her shirt looks very punjabi in the first picture. The girl next to her not wearing white shirt doesnt look south asian or west asian. She looks distinctly gypsy, but I just count her as south asian looking.
In second picture, the fourth smiling girl from right towards left resembles more lighter nw south asians than west asians.

I don't think it is about skin color, but features.
Gypsies do not have West Asian features, but South Asian one. Color is not considered a determining factor in one's ethnic background.

chinshen
04-27-2024, 03:41 PM
They barely have anything Indian. Maybe DNA tests that say they are 75% European, 25% Indian are correct...

I don't know if you are being sarcastic, but do you not think that 25% is significant?

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 03:55 PM
I don't think that is is about skin color, but features.
Gypsies do not have West Asian features, but South Asian one. Color is not considered a determining factor in one's ethnic background.

Im talking about features.

I honestly don't see how majority dont pass better in west asia and europe than South Asia?

These are the girls im talking about.

129410

edit: forgot the 12th girl

chinshen
04-27-2024, 04:04 PM
Im talking about features.

I honestly don't see how majority dont pass better in west asia and europe than South Asia?

These are the girls im talking about.

129409


They don't pass better in West Asia, but in India & Pakistan. The one who look European most likely have mostly European DNA with minor to no South Asian DNA at all.

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 04:08 PM
They don't pass better in West Asia, but in India & Pakistan. The one who look European most likely have mostly European DNA with minor to nonextant South Asian DNA.

Can you show me south asian girls looking like them? I mean group pictures by the way.

I've seen south asians before, they dont look like these girls at all. Even if I remove 2 of the more ethnic looking girls, the remaining 10 pass much better in west asia and europe than South Asia. I would have guessed them for west asians before than anything else


129411

chinshen
04-27-2024, 04:18 PM
Can you show me south asian girls looking like them? I mean group pictures by the way.

I've seen south asians before, they dont look like these girls at all. Even if I remove 2 of the more ethnic looking girls, the remaining 10 pass much better in west asia and europe than South Asia. I would have guessed them for west asians before than anything else


129411


You are Pakistani which is South Asian so I don't really need to show you how they look and You can guess them as whatever you like, but that is just a guess only.

How would you know if someone is indigenous West Asian or have ancestry from South Asia?
There are probably millions of integrated West Asian who are settlers from South Asia from the past few centuries and I am not only talking about Gypsies.

By the way, nothing against Gypsies or South Asians. I am just pointing out the facts.

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 04:57 PM
You are Pakistani which is South Asian so I don't really need to show you how they look and You can guess them as whatever you like, but that is just a guess only.

How would you know if someone is indigenous West Asian or have ancestry from South Asia?
There are probably millions of integrated West Asian who are settlers from South Asia from the past few centuries and I am not only talking about Gypsies.

By the way, nothing against Gypsies or South Asians. I am just pointing out the facts.

Im 100% sure other west asians would thought of these 10 girls as west asians or europeans, because there's nothing non-west asian looking about them.

This includes these girls too.

129412


This girl and 2 kurds compared to her, considered typical and pure kurds by your Kurdish buddy on other forums. She especially look almost just like the Kurdish girl on right. Head length, lips, cheekbones, eyebrows. Only the nostrils of their noses are little different, but she still looks west asian asf.


129413


These 2 kurds, also posted by your friend, have the same cheekbones as her, same lips and the woman same eyes. Noses quite similiar as well. The girl looks like she could be daughter to these 2 kurds.

Im not even gonna spend my time on rest of the girls, they're even more west asian looking.

You're right I know better what south asian girls look alike. I know there are gypsies assimilated, but this is exaggerating things.
No offence, but I have a feeling you wouldn't be like this if you didn't knew these girls were gypsies.
I'm not saying west asians and gypsies look alike, just these specific girls I picked out.
I'm done here.

chinshen
04-27-2024, 05:18 PM
Im 100% sure other west asians would thought of these 10 girls as west asians or europeans, because there's nothing non-west asian looking about them.

This includes these girls too.

129412


This girl and 2 kurds compared to her, considered typical and pure kurds by your Kurdish buddy on other forums. She especially look almost just like the Kurdish girl on right. Head length, lips, cheekbones, eyebrows. Only the nostrils of their noses are little different, but she still looks west asian asf.


129413


These 2 kurds, also posted by your friend, have the same cheekbones as her, same lips and the woman same eyes. Noses quite similiar as well. The girl looks like she could be daughter to these 2 kurds.

Im not even gonna spend my time on rest of the girls, they're even more west asian looking.

You're right I know better what south asian girls look alike. I know there are gypsies assimilated, but this is exaggerating things.
No offence, but I have a feeling you wouldn't be like this if you didn't knew these girls were gypsies.
I'm not saying west asians and gypsies look alike, just these specific girls I picked out.
I'm done here.

I never said that West Asians and Europeans look alike, on the contrary I always say that Europeans have a different look than us West Asians.
I don't know who you are referring to as my Kurdish buddy, I don't have any Kurdish buddies and I don't know why you are so pissed off at them.
To be fair, most Kurds do not look like Gypsies, they look typical West Asians.
No, I would not have guessed the girls as West Asian whether I knew they were Gypsies or not, only people like you guess them as such since you don't really know how indigenous West Asians look like..

Like I said before, not only Gypsies but millions other South Asians including Pakistani's, Indians and Bangladeshi's have been integrated into some West Asian ethnic groups. Most of them were Muslims pilgrims who came to visit Muslim holy sites in West Asia like Shite site in Iraq, Syria & Iran and Sunni ones in Saudi Arabia then settled there and identify as West Asians since some have been there for hundreds of years.

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 05:43 PM
I never said that West Asians and Europeans look alike, on the contrary I always say that Europeans have a different look than us West Asians.
I don't know who you are referring to as my Kurdish buddy, I don't have any Kurdish buddies and I don't know why you are so pissed off at them.
To be fair, most Kurds do not look like Gypsies, they look typical West Asians.
No, I would not have guessed the girls as West Asian whether I knew they were Gypsies or not, only people like you guess them as such since you don't really know how indigenous West Asians look like..

Like I said before, not only Gypsies but millions other South Asians including Pakistani's, Indians and Bangladeshi's have been integrated into some West Asian ethnic groups. Most of them were Muslims pilgrims who came to visit Muslim holy sites in West Asia like Shite site in Iraq, Syria & Iran and Sunni ones in Saudi Arabia then settled there and identify as West Asians since some have been there for hundreds of years.

You were on anthroworld forum, but I guess you weren't as active there. By "Kurdish buddy" I mean the admin of that forum.

When I group west asians and europeans here, I mean the girls passes in balkans and west asia. I didn't say europeans look like west asians.

You're twisting what im saying. I said these atypical gypsy girls look west asians, not kurds looking gypsies. Idk why you twist my words?

I just posted indigenous west asians who looks much alike the less west asian passing amongst the girls. The other girls look way more west asian or european. But im not gonna talk more about them. Though one could always share the pictures of the girls I picked up, show them to west asians/europeans without mentioning their ethnicities and see what they'll say. I doubt very much they'll agree with you.


When I say west asia, I dont include the gulf countries at all. The numbers of south asians aren't so significant in rest of west asia like in the gulf.

chinshen
04-27-2024, 05:54 PM
You were on anthroworld forum, but I guess you weren't as active there. By "Kurdish buddy" I mean the admin of that forum.

When I group west asians and europeans here, I mean the girls passes in balkans and west asia. I didn't say europeans look like west asians.

You're twisting what im saying. I said these atypical gypsy girls look west asians, not kurds looking gypsies. Idk why you twist my words?

I just posted indigenous west asians who looks much alike the less west asian passing amongst the girls. The other girls look way more west asian or european. But im not gonna talk more about them. Though one could always share the pictures of the girls I picked up, show them to west asians/europeans without mentioning their ethnicities and see what they'll say. I doubt very much they'll agree with you.


When I say west asia, I dont include the gulf countries at all. Their numbers aren't so significant in rest of west asia like in the gulf.

Ok, if by refuting your misleading claims is been stubborn then so be it.
By the way gulf countries are West Asians too, just South West Asians not North West Asians.

Negah
04-27-2024, 07:04 PM
I don't think it is about skin color, but features.
Gypsies do not have West Asian features, but South Asian one. Color is not considered a determining factor in one's ethnic background.

I have been fortunate enough to visit the Balkan region, including Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, and Bulgaria, as well as several countries in West Asia. I agree with you that there are no groups in West Asia that resemble the Gypsies as a group from the Balkan regions. The Gypsies have this unique look that makes them stand out in both the Balkans and West Asia as a group. We may find one here and there that passes but as a group certainly not.

The Gypsies that I have seen in Turkey looked darker than the ones in the Balkans. Many of them had a darker complexion and could pass better as people from India or Pakistan.

Negah
04-27-2024, 07:10 PM
Im 100% sure other west asians would thought of these 10 girls as west asians or europeans, because there's nothing non-west asian looking about them.

This includes these girls too.

129412


This girl and 2 kurds compared to her, considered typical and pure kurds by your Kurdish buddy on other forums. She especially look almost just like the Kurdish girl on right. Head length, lips, cheekbones, eyebrows. Only the nostrils of their noses are little different, but she still looks west asian asf.


129413


These 2 kurds, also posted by your friend, have the same cheekbones as her, same lips and the woman same eyes. Noses quite similiar as well. The girl looks like she could be daughter to these 2 kurds.

Im not even gonna spend my time on rest of the girls, they're even more west asian looking.

You're right I know better what south asian girls look alike. I know there are gypsies assimilated, but this is exaggerating things.
No offence, but I have a feeling you wouldn't be like this if you didn't knew these girls were gypsies.
I'm not saying west asians and gypsies look alike, just these specific girls I picked out.
I'm done here.

Posting pictures can be rather a poisonous endeavor as pictures can be very deceptive. I have been to many Kurdish cities in both Iran and Turkey and I have seen Gypsies. They don't look the same.

There is a rich diversity in the human race.

thisismyaccount
04-27-2024, 09:30 PM
Posting pictures can be rather a poisonous endeavor as pictures can be very deceptive. I have been to many Kurdish cities in both Iran and Turkey and I have seen Gypsies. They don't look the same.

There is a rich diversity in the human race.

youre getting it twisted. I'm specifically and only talking about the majority of the girls in this thread, not every gypsy as whole. Not especially west asian gypsies. The ones here are from balkans.

I'm well aware gypsies and kurds don't look alike as groups.

Mortimer
04-28-2024, 04:40 AM
I have been fortunate enough to visit the Balkan region, including Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, and Bulgaria, as well as several countries in West Asia. I agree with you that there are no groups in West Asia that resemble the Gypsies as a group from the Balkan regions. The Gypsies have this unique look that makes them stand out in both the Balkans and West Asia as a group. We may find one here and there that passes but as a group certainly not.

The Gypsies that I have seen in Turkey looked darker than the ones in the Balkans. Many of them had a darker complexion and could pass better as people from India or Pakistan.


youre getting it twisted. I'm specifically and only talking about the majority of the girls in this thread, not every gypsy as whole. Not especially west asian gypsies. The ones here are from balkans.

I'm well aware gypsies and kurds don't look alike as groups.

I said my opinion already about the girls but again but to me the girls in this thread and gypsies as a whole do not look westasian at all, i agree they stand out, even if they do not have a much darker complexion then westasian sometimes, sometimes they do have a darker complexion. To me they look uniqe and like pseudo western indians, or western shifted indians what they are or mixed race people, similar to carribbean mullatos who can look uniqe and pseudo western with darker complexions..

Classify this girl band from serbia, do you think they look south or westasian or unique?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSnNAfKOF-Y

Me and my cousins
https://i.ibb.co/9g0qG7N/68551732-1344571549027449-6863119862244311040-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/4tLjJH7)

thisismyaccount
04-28-2024, 06:37 AM
Mortimer, I know you want to appeal to people here who dislikes any gypsy compared to west asians

But if these girls(the cherrypicked atypical ones I'm talking about) were never revealed to be gypsies and were claimed to be of turkish nationality, no one would actually be biased and suspected otherwise

So many people are touchy about this here. Only on TA west asian looking peoples can't pass in West asia

Mortimer
04-28-2024, 06:43 AM
I have been fortunate enough to visit the Balkan region, including Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, and Bulgaria, as well as several countries in West Asia. I agree with you that there are no groups in West Asia that resemble the Gypsies as a group from the Balkan regions. The Gypsies have this unique look that makes them stand out in both the Balkans and West Asia as a group. We may find one here and there that passes but as a group certainly not.

The Gypsies that I have seen in Turkey looked darker than the ones in the Balkans. Many of them had a darker complexion and could pass better as people from India or Pakistan.


Mortimer, I know you want to appeal to people here who dislikes any gypsy compared to west asians

But if these girls(the cherrypicked atypical ones I'm talking about) were never revealed to be gypsies and were claimed to be of turkish nationality, no one would actually be biased and suspected otherwise

So many people are touchy about this here. Only on TA west asian looking peoples can't pass in West asia

I think a few could pass, my mum has 4 siblings, i think 1 sister of her could pass as turkish the others and my mum could pass as indians i think

The one who could pass as turkish
https://i.ibb.co/q96q0Pp/Mara.jpg (https://ibb.co/Mpdw837)
https://i.ibb.co/800V034/Mara2.jpg (https://ibb.co/CzzFzds)
https://i.ibb.co/q53nJ6p/Mara3.jpg (https://ibb.co/PQvYDkg)

as group they do not pass, a few pass maybe

Negah
04-28-2024, 12:31 PM
I said my opinion already about the girls but again but to me the girls in this thread and gypsies as a whole do not look westasian at all, i agree they stand out, even if they do not have a much darker complexion then westasian sometimes, sometimes they do have a darker complexion. To me they look uniqe and like pseudo western indians, or western shifted indians what they are or mixed race people, similar to carribbean mullatos who can look uniqe and pseudo western with darker complexions..

Classify this girl band from serbia, do you think they look south or westasian or unique?

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I think they look Unique. Your cousins show South Asian influences though IMO.

Negah
04-28-2024, 12:43 PM
Mortimer, I know you want to appeal to people here who dislikes any gypsy compared to west asians

But if these girls(the cherrypicked atypical ones I'm talking about) were never revealed to be gypsies and were claimed to be of turkish nationality, no one would actually be biased and suspected otherwise

So many people are touchy about this here. Only on TA west asian looking peoples can't pass in West asia

Everyone acknowledges that there are overlaps, but the fact remains that the genetic composition of West Asia, the Balkans, Gypsies, South Asians, and other regions is quite distinct, which is reflected in the facial features of people from these regions. During my travel to the Balkans, I was surprised to notice how different the Anatolians looked from the people of the Balkan region, despite the short distance between them. The Gypsies have a unique history that sets them apart from other groups.

It's possible to find a few people who resemble members of other groups, but in my opinion, it's not significant enough.

Negah
04-28-2024, 01:02 PM
Im talking about features.

I honestly don't see how majority dont pass better in west asia and europe than South Asia?

These are the girls im talking about.



edit: forgot the 12th girl

It is natural to group the Gypsies and West Asians together due to their dark hair, while Slovenians and Croats are light-haired. South Asians are on average dark skinned relative to other groups which makes them stand out even more.

Mortimer
04-29-2024, 02:39 AM
I think they look Unique. Your cousins show South Asian influences though IMO.

I think they do show southasian influences i mean my cousins. They look inda like "pseudo westerneurasian indians" or western shifted indians. Kinda like carribean mullatos look like a more western version of negroes.

Here are more of my relatives, i think they have a average complexion for indians, they really do have a dark complexion, their features are more western shifted then typical indians though what do you think? Overall they are "indian mullatos" do you agree?

And what do you think on a global level, how dark is their skin complexion and color? Do you think its very dark even on a global level or only for westerneurasia and east asia?

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438129563_740924591576151_5153491627761348792_n.jp g?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=8s7icNvGf8kAb5vLwQU&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=00_AfA7kZcppPrt9-M10wcqQAwCrt_kUMMfs4Dmiupv-JmjTQ&oe=6634C909

Tooting Carmen
04-30-2024, 05:37 PM
They vary: some look Balkan, others look Indian, some look like a hybrid of both.

placebo
04-30-2024, 08:31 PM
They look lighter than west Asians

you must be blind. most of them clearly darker than average georgian, turkish, azeri, armenian etc.

Incal
04-30-2024, 08:58 PM
Is it me or gypsies are predisposed to obesity? Most of those kids look on their way to get fat.

placebo
04-30-2024, 09:08 PM
Is it me or gypsies are predisposed to obesity? Most of those kids look on their way to get fat.

Interesting but most gypsies I saw before were either obese or very thin.

Incal
04-30-2024, 09:08 PM
I live in Spain where there are millions of Latin American foreigners, and the last girl doesn't look very Latin, much less Peruvian, Bolivian or Ecuadorian with High Ameridian genetics

I live in south America and that girl looks venezuelan.



You didn't complete your sentence for some reason, so I finished it for you.

LMAO

Mortimer
05-05-2024, 07:22 AM
thisismyaccount and Avicenna. I think if they are a high school group of gypsies, they are probably gypsies, i wonder why ethnic hungarians would partake in a gypsy folklore group. And the girls really look like native central europaens to you? To me they look not that unusual really example the one who serves the bread is dark and looks very southasian. I dont see what you say, a few are a bit lighter but its visible they are not ethnic europeans or hungarians. I just dont see it also they might be more mixed, nowadays there are many mixed people who identify as gypsies. That was unheard of before. Also mixing was less then now.

Negah
05-09-2024, 05:37 PM
Interesting but most gypsies I saw before were either obese or very thin.

Usually, obesity reflects poor diet or limited access to better options due to cost or other barriers.