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ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 01:50 PM
For those who don't have DNAGenics subscription, here is their DEEP ANCIENT CURRENT ERA (1 AD - 1900 AD) calc using their 8 samples only (obviously for Europeans, so don't take offense if you have genetics primarily outside of Europe), but I added one additional:Native American Anzick.

My results:

ORIGINAL 8, NO ANZICK:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.7399% / 0.02739896
48.2 Piedmont
21.4 Nordic
16.2 Oland
14.2 Villa_Magna

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.8059% / 0.02805927 | ADC: 2x RC
40.8 Piedmont
30.8 Oland
28.4 Nordic


ORIGINAL+ANZICK:
(I think Anzick makes my Euro more accurate)

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.4843% / 0.02484274
46.4 Oland
37.4 Piedmont
10.6 Villa_Magna
3.4 Langeland
2.2 USA_Anzick

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.8059% / 0.02805927 | ADC: 2x RC
40.8 Piedmont
30.8 Oland
28.4 Nordic


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If you guys want to work with me to expand on this one to include more regions, post some samples to help others out. Thanks.


SamplesOriginal+1:


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Here are some additional samples for a possible expansion of the above:

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BOTH SAMPLE SETS COMBINED INTO ONE FILE HERE:
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With both sample sets:


Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.9409% / 0.01940894
47.4 Piedmont
18.2 Nordic
10.6 Spain_Medieval
9.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG
5.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
2.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
2.2 Oland
1.8 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval
1.4 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2
0.4 USA_Anzick
0.2 Russia_Medieval_Nomad.SG

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.8059% / 0.02805927 | ADC: 2x RC
40.8 Piedmont
30.8 Oland
28.4 Nordic

and lastly, R5P with all samples:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.9777% / 0.01977659 | R5P
44.8 Piedmont
20.6 Nordic
17.6 Spain_Medieval
11.8 Estonia_Medieval.SG
5.2 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval

yngviktor
04-29-2024, 02:39 PM
Target: Dilan_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.4690% / 0.01468990 | R5P
36.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
26.8 Spain_Medieval
21.6 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
11.4 Turkey_Medieval
4.2 Villa_Magna

Eurafricanid
04-29-2024, 02:59 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.8844% / 0.01884373
85.0 Spain_Medieval
7.8 Turkey_Medieval
7.2 Nordic

Beowulf
04-29-2024, 03:06 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01165870
65.2 Spain_Medieval
11.3 Oxford
10.0 Funen
7.8 Villa_Magna
4.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.9 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
0.4 Oland
0.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG


you should delete or replace this sample from italy to a another one since this is an outlier:

Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG,0.127482,0.136081,0.043369,0.02842 4,0.037545,0.005578,0.00282,0.007615,0.010022,0.00 6196,-0.002598,0.001199,-0.007284,-0.010322,0.00475,0.009281,0.016298,0.003674,0.0070 39,-0.008379,0.009358,0.002102,-0.001602,0.004579,0.007544

Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
Distance: 3.1874% / 0.03187375
45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 03:19 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01165870
65.2 Spain_Medieval
11.3 Oxford
10.0 Funen
7.8 Villa_Magna
4.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.9 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
0.4 Oland
0.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG


you should delete or replace this sample from italy to a another one since this is an outlier:

Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG,0.127482,0.136081,0.043369,0.02842 4,0.037545,0.005578,0.00282,0.007615,0.010022,0.00 6196,-0.002598,0.001199,-0.007284,-0.010322,0.00475,0.009281,0.016298,0.003674,0.0070 39,-0.008379,0.009358,0.002102,-0.001602,0.004579,0.007544

Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
Distance: 3.1874% / 0.03187375
45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

That's the one they use on their website so I guess it's to represent the yamnaya versus farming versus hunter-gatherer element I don't know it looks that way

Solitude
04-29-2024, 03:36 PM
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.2294% / 0.02229355 | R5P
27.4 Spain_Medieval:I10895
18.2 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
16.2 Spain_Medieval:I10852
10.6 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KVWUM002
7.8 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KV-NKA0027
6.4 South_Amerindian:Karitiana:HGDP00998
4.0 SSA:Luhya_Kenya:NA19026
3.0 Spain_Medieval:I10897
2.6 South_Amerindian:Karitiana:HGDP01001
2.2 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG:R3361.SG
1.4 Spain_Medieval:I10853
0.2 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KVWUM003

with chebyshev is good aswell

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Chebyshev distance: 0.7615% / 0.00761495
35.2 Spain_Medieval
19.6 Bantu-West
17.1 Oxford
7.7 Native_Brazilian
5.7 Turkey_PostMedieval
4.6 Villa_Magna
2.1 Western_African
1.8 Luhya_Kenya
1.8 Karitiana
1.2 Nordic
1.0 Amerindian
1.0 Turkey_Medieval
0.6 Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.4 Langeland
0.2 South_Amerindian

celticdragongod
04-29-2024, 03:59 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02222742 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.02820906 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
0.03145671 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
0.03688140 Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
0.03770204 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
0.04390467 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
0.05366791 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
0.05565548 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
0.07338873 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
0.07724522 Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG
0.08289998 Spain_Medieval:I10895
0.08331692 Spain_Medieval:I10892
0.08853435 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
0.08879027 Spain_Medieval:I10897
0.09456720 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIa_1_noUDG.SG
0.09609963 Spain_Medieval:I10852
0.09646934 Spain_Medieval:I10853
0.10837630 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IVLS09KT_1_noUDG.SG
0.15913066 Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG:Vim2b_noUDG.SG
0.15983071 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
0.16532180 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
0.16712448 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
0.19429061 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
0.19650894 Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539
0.20367347 Pakistan_Udegram_Medieval_Ghaznavid:I2959

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0174% / 0.01743610
69.8 Piedmont
12.7 Spain_Medieval
6.7 Oland
4.9 Estonia_Medieval.SG
3.0 Langeland
2.2 Funen
0.7 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01863703 87.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 13.00% Spain_Medieval:I10892
0.01928161 88.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 12.00% Spain_Medieval:I10895
0.01931195 89.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 10.40% Spain_Medieval:I10853
0.01962912 89.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 10.80% Spain_Medieval:I10897
0.01990967 33.00% Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG + 67.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.01996560 90.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 9.40% Spain_Medieval:I10852
0.02076419 86.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 13.40% Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
0.02085122 13.40% Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG + 86.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.02085447 24.60% Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG + 75.40% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.02106777 96.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 3.40% Turkey_Medieval:I4540
0.02109925 91.40% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 8.60% Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG
0.02115827 91.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 8.80% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
0.02125481 14.40% Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG + 85.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.02139146 16.80% Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG + 83.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.02146864 97.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.80% Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539
0.02149472 97.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.80% Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
0.02172674 98.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.00% Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG:R3361.SG
0.02188819 97.60% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.40% Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
0.02196296 98.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 2.00% Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
0.02202612 98.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 1.80% Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
0.02204703 98.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 1.80% Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG:Vim2b_noUDG.SG
0.02207960 97.00% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 3.00% Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
0.02215677 99.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 0.80% Pakistan_Udegram_Medieval_Ghaznavid:I2959
0.02217926 99.40% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146 + 0.60% Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval:I7716
0.02219381 3.80% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 96.20% Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146

Petalpusher
04-29-2024, 04:16 PM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 4.1618% / 0.04161811
57.6 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
26.6 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
13.0 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
2.8 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG


Distance to: Petalpusher
0.04541753 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
0.04993145 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
0.05103640 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
0.05186064 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
0.05641478 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
0.05839961 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.05934604 Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
0.05940694 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
0.06555378 Spain_Medieval:I10895
0.06744976 Spain_Medieval:I10892
0.07248014 Spain_Medieval:I10897
0.07592629 Spain_Medieval:I10852
0.07964828 Spain_Medieval:I10853
0.08585514 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
0.08692353 Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG
0.10703489 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
0.11376274 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIa_1_noUDG.SG
0.12704896 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IVLS09KT_1_noUDG.SG
0.16732926 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
0.17284550 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
0.17492136 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
0.18009405 Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG:Vim2b_noUDG.SG
0.19168853 Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539
0.19402596 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
0.20100449 Turkey_Medieval:I4540
0.22547760 Pakistan_Udegram_Medieval_Ghaznavid:I2959
0.23374771 Pakistan_Singoor_Medieval:I1805
0.23585890 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG:R3361.SG
0.23925545 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval:I7716
0.27722921 Russia_Medieval_Nomad.SG:DA142_noUDG.SG
0.30208234 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2:I7715
0.34176127 Russia_KusnarenkovoKarajakupovo_Medieval.SG:MS20.S G
0.36577550 Romania_Medieval:I10495
0.47551360 Russia_AngaraRiver_Medieval.SG:irk032_noUDG.SG
0.54126938 Russia_UstBelaya_Angara_Medieval:I7781
0.59093766 Russia_Yana_Medieval.SG:Yana_Young_noUDG.SG
0.61083722 Russia_EarlyMedieval_Heshui_Mohe_1:I3358
0.64910937 USA_Anzick:Anzick

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 04:16 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01165870
65.2 Spain_Medieval
11.3 Oxford
10.0 Funen
7.8 Villa_Magna
4.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.9 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
0.4 Oland
0.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG


you should delete or replace this sample from italy to a another one since this is an outlier:

Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG,0.127482,0.136081,0.043369,0.02842 4,0.037545,0.005578,0.00282,0.007615,0.010022,0.00 6196,-0.002598,0.001199,-0.007284,-0.010322,0.00475,0.009281,0.016298,0.003674,0.0070 39,-0.008379,0.009358,0.002102,-0.001602,0.004579,0.007544

Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
Distance: 3.1874% / 0.03187375
45.6 TUR_Barcin_N
42.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG

I just added these two in additional samples list, which plot a bit more southern than Villa_Magna

Italy_Medieval.SG:VK536_noUDG.SG,0.110408,0.14319, 0.009805,-0.031654,0.01508,-0.008088,0.000235,0.002077,0.001841,0.024237,0.004 709,0.009891,-0.015758,-0.004542,-0.003664,-0.002387,0.001434,-0.00152,-0.003897,-0.000625,-0.006114,0.011129,0.003697,0.000361,-0.004311
Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG,0.106994,0.14 6236,0.001886,-0.031008,0.012925,-0.01004,0.007755,-0.003692,0.006954,0.013668,-0.002923,0.00045,-0.003419,0.005367,-0.002443,-0.005967,-0.016689,-0.000127,0.000754,-0.005127,-0.006738,-0.004204,-0.002711,0.000964,-0.000838



It factors in for my results:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.9413% / 0.01941293
47.6 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
18.6 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
10.6 Spain_Medieval:I10897
9.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
6.0 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG
2.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
1.8 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2:I7715
1.6 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
1.4 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval:I7716
0.4 USA_Anzick:Anzick

djipon
04-29-2024, 04:56 PM
Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.2845% / 0.02284471 | R5P
36.6 Italy_Medieval.SG
27.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
15.0 Turkey_PostMedieval
11.0 Funen
10.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3684% / 0.02368407 | R5P
43.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
30.4 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
19.4 Turkey_Medieval
4.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
2.2 Serbia_Medieval_Gepidian.SG

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4104% / 0.02410440 | R5P
39.6 Italy_Medieval.SG
27.8 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
13.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
11.8 Funen
7.0 Turkey_Medieval

Dušan
04-29-2024, 04:58 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4660% / 0.02465950
51.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
29.2 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
9.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
8.4 Spain_Medieval
1.4 Italy_Medieval.SG

Vitez
04-29-2024, 04:59 PM
Added Poland_Viking and Croatia_Zadar.

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0169% / 0.01692829 | R4P
35.6 Croatia_Zadar_Roman.SG
32.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
28.4 Poland_Viking.SG
3.6 Russia_KusnarenkovoKarajakupovo_Medieval.SG

Without Zadar :

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0173% / 0.01726980 | R5P
34.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
27.1 Poland_Viking.SG
22.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
14.0 Spain_Medieval
2.3 Russia_Medieval_Nomad.SG

Xavier727
04-29-2024, 05:03 PM
Distance to: scaled
0.02094454 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
0.02652798 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
0.02858987 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
0.03122223 Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
0.03169632 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
0.03378401 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.04418312 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
0.04709162 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
0.07174337 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0148% / 0.01484471
26.6 Oxford
26.1 Oland
21.8 Nordic
10.4 Langeland
5.5 Villa_Magna
4.2 Piedmont
2.4 Estonia_Medieval.SG
1.7 USA_Anzick
1.3 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0151% / 0.01510781 | R5P
31.6 Oland
29.8 Oxford
20.9 Nordic
15.7 Langeland


Distance to: scaled
0.01928207 70.60% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 29.40% Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
0.01950053 79.80% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 20.20% Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
0.01975049 90.00% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 10.00% Spain_Medieval:I10852
0.01983629 92.60% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 7.40% Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG
0.01983629 92.60% Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG + 7.40% Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 05:49 PM
This is where the original eight samples plot out with modern pop averages scaled at a distance of 1x

Target: Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
Distance: 2.5056% / 0.02505583 | ADC: 1x RC
39.6 BelgianB
25.6 Swiss_French
19.2 Montenegrin
15.6 Austrian

Target: Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
Distance: 2.0010% / 0.02001047 | ADC: 1x RC
47.8 Norwegian
34.6 Shetlandic
17.6 Danish

Target: Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.9877% / 0.02987698 | ADC: 1x RC
64.4 Dutch
35.6 French_Pas-de-Calais

Target: Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
Distance: 1.7289% / 0.01728891 | ADC: 1x RC
65.4 Dutch
34.6 Danish

Target: Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.2757% / 0.02275674 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Norwegian

Target: Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.1516% / 0.02151620 | ADC: 1x RC
57.0 Norwegian
43.0 Dutch

Target: Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
Distance: 3.5896% / 0.03589591 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 BelgianB

Target: Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
Distance: 2.7572% / 0.02757156 | ADC: 1x RC
54.2 Danish
45.8 German_Hamburg

RareNightmare
04-29-2024, 05:57 PM
129439
Not that high in terms of spanish ancestry

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 06:59 PM
129439
Not that high in terms of spanish ancestry

Seems like most Spanish people get anywhere from a grandparent to a great grandparents worth from the north sometimes more than a grandparent at least that's how they plot on some calculators

Eurafricanid
04-29-2024, 07:00 PM
My results did change a little bit after the italian samles

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.8839% / 0.01883894
83.6 Spain_Medieval
7.2 Nordic
7.2 Turkey_Medieval
2.0 Italy_Medieval.SG


Let's add the distance too, because why not?


<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU


0.02837817
Spain_Medieval:I10895


0.02938805
Spain_Medieval:I10892


0.03869123
Spain_Medieval:I10853


0.04049854
Spain_Medieval:I10852


0.05206961
Italy_Medieval.SG:VK536_noUDG.SG


0.05237056
Spain_Medieval:I10897


0.05806591
Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG


0.06169912
Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG


0.07027154
Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG


0.07824849
Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG


0.08103808
Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG


0.08713802
Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG


0.09195042
Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG


0.09249024
Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG


0.09567656
Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146

</tbody>

cass
04-29-2024, 08:26 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.2241% / 0.01224149
29.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG
29.2 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
10.8 Spain_Medieval
10.4 Langeland
8.6 Funen
8.2 Oland
3.2 Piedmont
0.4 Turkey_Medieval

Target: cass
Distance: 1.2567% / 0.01256651 | R5P
31.4 Estonia_Medieval.SG
27.4 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
17.8 Langeland
12.8 Spain_Medieval
10.6 Funen

+ medieval Polish

Target: cass
Distance: 0.7602% / 0.00760199
26.0 Poland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sandomierz_(Mixed _Balto-Slavic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
22.0 Langeland
9.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG
8.4 Spain_Medieval
7.0 Poland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Bodzia_(Mixed_Bal to-Slavic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
6.6 Poland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Bodzia_(Mixed_Bal to-Slavic-Norse-Finnic_Profile)
6.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
4.8 Funen
4.0 Early_Medieval_Mazovia
2.8 Poland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Cedynia_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
2.6 Turkey_Medieval

Target: cass
Distance: 0.8678% / 0.00867833 | R5P
30.0 Langeland
28.8 Poland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sandomierz_(Mixed _Balto-Slavic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
18.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
11.8 Spain_Medieval
11.2 Estonia_Medieval.SG

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 08:51 PM
I'm afraid this calc is not complete and probably won't work for a lot of the people here only some so it should be trashed

Voskos
04-29-2024, 09:22 PM
Target: Greek_West_Taygetos
Chebyshev distance: 0.6577% / 0.00657660 | R5P
48.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
28.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
13.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
8.8 Turkey_Medieval
2.0 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG

Target: Greek_Trabzon
Chebyshev distance: 1.1071% / 0.01107107 | R5P
58.8 Turkey_Medieval
24.6 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
10.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
6.6 Turkey_PostMedieval

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Chebyshev distance: 0.5261% / 0.00526111 | R5P
30.4 Spain_Medieval
27.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.6 Turkey_Medieval
19.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
1.6 Villa_Magna

Target: Greek_South_Tsakonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8760% / 0.00876016 | R5P
49.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
22.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
10.6 Turkey_PostMedieval
6.8 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Chebyshev distance: 0.8254% / 0.00825373 | R5P
49.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
29.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
14.2 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
6.6 Turkey_Medieval
0.4 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval

Target: Greek_North_Tsakonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7264% / 0.00726367 | R5P
47.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
18.8 Turkey_Medieval
7.8 Turkey_PostMedieval
2.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Messenia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8544% / 0.00854378 | R5P
29.2 Spain_Medieval
25.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
19.2 Turkey_Medieval
17.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
8.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Macedonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7816% / 0.00781599 | R5P
27.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
27.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
25.6 Spain_Medieval
19.8 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Laconia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7325% / 0.00732537 | R5P
24.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
23.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.6 Spain_Medieval
17.8 Turkey_Medieval
13.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Kos
Chebyshev distance: 0.7903% / 0.00790262 | R5P
39.0 Turkey_PostMedieval
36.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
12.2 Spain_Medieval
10.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
2.6 Villa_Magna

Target: Greek_Izmir
Chebyshev distance: 0.8207% / 0.00820744 | R5P
48.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
22.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
14.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
11.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
3.4 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval

Target: Greek_Elis
Chebyshev distance: 0.8037% / 0.00803657 | R5P
28.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
22.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.6 Spain_Medieval
15.4 Turkey_Medieval
12.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_East_Taygetos
Chebyshev distance: 0.6311% / 0.00631082 | R5P
25.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
20.2 Spain_Medieval
19.2 Turkey_Medieval
11.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
Chebyshev distance: 0.7646% / 0.00764624 | R5P
46.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
22.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
14.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
10.6 Turkey_Medieval
6.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
Chebyshev distance: 1.0241% / 0.01024118 | R5P
47.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.0 Turkey_Medieval
20.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
7.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
1.8 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval

Target: Greek_Dodecanese
Chebyshev distance: 0.8570% / 0.00856996 | R5P
32.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
31.6 Turkey_Medieval
16.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
13.2 Spain_Medieval
6.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Deep_Mani
Chebyshev distance: 0.8290% / 0.00829047 | R5P
28.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
21.2 Turkey_Medieval
18.6 Spain_Medieval
17.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
14.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Tinos
Chebyshev distance: 1.1658% / 0.01165798 | R5P
46.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
16.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
11.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
2.6 Russia_EarlyMedieval_Heshui_Mohe_1

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Milos
Chebyshev distance: 0.8168% / 0.00816808 | R5P
30.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
27.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.0 Spain_Medieval
12.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
6.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Kea
Chebyshev distance: 0.8804% / 0.00880387 | R5P
43.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
24.8 Spain_Medieval
14.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
10.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
6.8 Estonia_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Amorgos
Chebyshev distance: 1.1100% / 0.01110040 | R5P
41.0 Spain_Medieval
35.8 Turkey_PostMedieval
11.0 Turkey_Medieval
7.2 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
5.0 Funen

Target: Greek_Crete_Lasithi
Chebyshev distance: 0.7682% / 0.00768201 | R5P
43.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
16.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
15.4 Turkey_Medieval
12.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
12.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Crete_Heraklion
Chebyshev distance: 0.6925% / 0.00692454 | R5P
27.2 Turkey_Medieval
21.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
18.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
17.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
14.8 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Crete_Chania
Chebyshev distance: 1.0127% / 0.01012684 | R5P
26.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
24.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
19.8 Turkey_PostMedieval
17.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
11.8 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Crete
Chebyshev distance: 0.6371% / 0.00637080 | R5P
44.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
15.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
15.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
15.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
10.4 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Corinthia
Chebyshev distance: 0.9269% / 0.00926852 | R5P
26.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
25.8 Spain_Medieval
21.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
13.4 Turkey_Medieval
13.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8140% / 0.00813958 | R5P
49.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
37.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
2.4 Turkey_PostMedieval

Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7308% / 0.00730807 | R5P
36.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
33.0 Turkey_Medieval
28.6 Turkey_PostMedieval
1.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Argolis
Chebyshev distance: 0.8531% / 0.00853082 | R5P
53.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
27.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.2 Turkey_Medieval
6.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
3.2 Turkey_PostMedieval

Target: Greek_Arcadia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8534% / 0.00853389 | R5P
30.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
21.6 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.0 Spain_Medieval
15.2 Turkey_Medieval
13.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Apulia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7625% / 0.00762521 | R5P
32.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.8 Spain_Medieval
22.4 Turkey_Medieval
11.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Achaea
Chebyshev distance: 0.7528% / 0.00752770 | R5P
53.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
28.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
9.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
5.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
3.8 Turkey_Medieval

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 10:24 PM
Target: Greek_West_Taygetos
Chebyshev distance: 0.6577% / 0.00657660 | R5P
48.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
28.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
13.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
8.8 Turkey_Medieval
2.0 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG

Target: Greek_Trabzon
Chebyshev distance: 1.1071% / 0.01107107 | R5P
58.8 Turkey_Medieval
24.6 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
10.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
6.6 Turkey_PostMedieval

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Chebyshev distance: 0.5261% / 0.00526111 | R5P
30.4 Spain_Medieval
27.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.6 Turkey_Medieval
19.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
1.6 Villa_Magna

Target: Greek_South_Tsakonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8760% / 0.00876016 | R5P
49.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
22.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
10.6 Turkey_PostMedieval
6.8 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Chebyshev distance: 0.8254% / 0.00825373 | R5P
49.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
29.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
14.2 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
6.6 Turkey_Medieval
0.4 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval

Target: Greek_North_Tsakonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7264% / 0.00726367 | R5P
47.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
18.8 Turkey_Medieval
7.8 Turkey_PostMedieval
2.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Messenia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8544% / 0.00854378 | R5P
29.2 Spain_Medieval
25.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
19.2 Turkey_Medieval
17.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
8.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Macedonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7816% / 0.00781599 | R5P
27.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
27.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
25.6 Spain_Medieval
19.8 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Laconia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7325% / 0.00732537 | R5P
24.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
23.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.6 Spain_Medieval
17.8 Turkey_Medieval
13.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Kos
Chebyshev distance: 0.7903% / 0.00790262 | R5P
39.0 Turkey_PostMedieval
36.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
12.2 Spain_Medieval
10.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
2.6 Villa_Magna

Target: Greek_Izmir
Chebyshev distance: 0.8207% / 0.00820744 | R5P
48.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
22.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
14.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
11.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
3.4 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval

Target: Greek_Elis
Chebyshev distance: 0.8037% / 0.00803657 | R5P
28.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
22.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.6 Spain_Medieval
15.4 Turkey_Medieval
12.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_East_Taygetos
Chebyshev distance: 0.6311% / 0.00631082 | R5P
25.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
20.2 Spain_Medieval
19.2 Turkey_Medieval
11.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
Chebyshev distance: 0.7646% / 0.00764624 | R5P
46.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
22.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
14.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
10.6 Turkey_Medieval
6.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
Chebyshev distance: 1.0241% / 0.01024118 | R5P
47.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.0 Turkey_Medieval
20.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
7.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
1.8 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval

Target: Greek_Dodecanese
Chebyshev distance: 0.8570% / 0.00856996 | R5P
32.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
31.6 Turkey_Medieval
16.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
13.2 Spain_Medieval
6.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Deep_Mani
Chebyshev distance: 0.8290% / 0.00829047 | R5P
28.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
21.2 Turkey_Medieval
18.6 Spain_Medieval
17.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
14.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Tinos
Chebyshev distance: 1.1658% / 0.01165798 | R5P
46.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
16.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
11.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
2.6 Russia_EarlyMedieval_Heshui_Mohe_1

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Milos
Chebyshev distance: 0.8168% / 0.00816808 | R5P
30.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
27.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.0 Spain_Medieval
12.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
6.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Kea
Chebyshev distance: 0.8804% / 0.00880387 | R5P
43.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
24.8 Spain_Medieval
14.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
10.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
6.8 Estonia_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Cyclades_Amorgos
Chebyshev distance: 1.1100% / 0.01110040 | R5P
41.0 Spain_Medieval
35.8 Turkey_PostMedieval
11.0 Turkey_Medieval
7.2 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
5.0 Funen

Target: Greek_Crete_Lasithi
Chebyshev distance: 0.7682% / 0.00768201 | R5P
43.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
16.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
15.4 Turkey_Medieval
12.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
12.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Crete_Heraklion
Chebyshev distance: 0.6925% / 0.00692454 | R5P
27.2 Turkey_Medieval
21.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
18.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
17.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
14.8 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Crete_Chania
Chebyshev distance: 1.0127% / 0.01012684 | R5P
26.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
24.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
19.8 Turkey_PostMedieval
17.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
11.8 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Crete
Chebyshev distance: 0.6371% / 0.00637080 | R5P
44.0 Italy_Medieval.SG
15.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
15.2 Turkey_PostMedieval
15.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
10.4 Turkey_Medieval

Target: Greek_Corinthia
Chebyshev distance: 0.9269% / 0.00926852 | R5P
26.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
25.8 Spain_Medieval
21.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
13.4 Turkey_Medieval
13.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8140% / 0.00813958 | R5P
49.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
37.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
2.4 Turkey_PostMedieval

Target: Greek_Central_Anatolia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7308% / 0.00730807 | R5P
36.8 Italy_Medieval.SG
33.0 Turkey_Medieval
28.6 Turkey_PostMedieval
1.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Target: Greek_Argolis
Chebyshev distance: 0.8531% / 0.00853082 | R5P
53.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
27.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.2 Turkey_Medieval
6.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
3.2 Turkey_PostMedieval

Target: Greek_Arcadia
Chebyshev distance: 0.8534% / 0.00853389 | R5P
30.2 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
21.6 Italy_Medieval.SG
20.0 Spain_Medieval
15.2 Turkey_Medieval
13.0 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Apulia
Chebyshev distance: 0.7625% / 0.00762521 | R5P
32.2 Italy_Medieval.SG
23.8 Spain_Medieval
22.4 Turkey_Medieval
11.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
10.6 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG

Target: Greek_Achaea
Chebyshev distance: 0.7528% / 0.00752770 | R5P
53.4 Italy_Medieval.SG
28.0 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
9.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval_oAfrica.SG
5.4 Turkey_PostMedieval
3.8 Turkey_Medieval

That's super cool. They all look like much better distances then probably most of the people here would be getting I don't know it's frustrating because there needs to be more central European in this calculator and Germany is lacking as well as the Czech Republic and Austria and Hungary Swiss peoples and then I'm sure there's other groups I can't even think of but anyway it's the calculator sort of a screw up it needs more samples in my opinion to be correct at least throughout Central Europe probably large parts of France as well anyway live and learn

Voskos
04-29-2024, 10:45 PM
That's super cool. They all look like much better distances then probably most of the people here would be getting I don't know it's frustrating because there needs to be more central European in this calculator and Germany is lacking as well as the Czech Republic and Austria and Hungary Swiss peoples and then I'm sure there's other groups I can't even think of but anyway it's the calculator sort of a screw up it needs more samples in my opinion to be correct at least throughout Central Europe probably large parts of France as well anyway live and learn

use experimental mode for better distances:
https://vahaduo.github.io/chebyshev/

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 11:16 PM
use experimental mode for better distances:
https://vahaduo.github.io/chebyshev/

I'll check it out thanks for pointing that out and do you know how accurate the custom PCA is on the official site everyone uses because I found out some interesting distances that shock me on that site you should try plotting some of your results into that site together with your own and see what you plot out with it's pretty interesting I think especially when you aggregate groups like Russia Smolensk is closer to me than Ireland in some ways although they both are almost identically on top of me with a couple samples but I don't know it seems strange to me

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 11:24 PM
use experimental mode for better distances:
https://vahaduo.github.io/chebyshev/

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Chebyshev distance: 0.6512% / 0.00651206
49.4 Piedmont
18.0 Spain_Medieval
13.8 Estonia_Medieval.SG
8.6 Oland
3.8 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
1.8 Turkey_Medieval
1.6 Pakistan_RajaGira_Medieval
1.4 Pakistan_Singoor_Medieval
1.2 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2
0.4 Funen

Chebyshev dist: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
0.01239192 Piedmont:Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1:CL 146
0.01443272 Oland:Sweden_Viking.SG:VK337_noUDG.SG
0.01739108 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK373_noUDG.SG
0.02015474 Langeland:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK275_noUDG.SG
0.02130208 Nordic:Faroes_EarlyModern.SG:VK241_noUDG.SG
0.02769108 Oxford:England_Viking.SG:VK177_noUDG.SG
0.03029908 Funen:Denmark_Viking.SG:VK278_noUDG.SG
0.03042908 Villa_Magna:Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEur opean.SG:R62.SG
0.03399316 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG
0.03523188 Ukraine_Medieval.SG:VK541_noUDG.SG
0.04225016 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IVLS09KT_1_noUDG.SG
0.04388222 Spain_Medieval:I10897
0.04411486 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIa_1_noUDG.SG
0.04527816 Estonia_Medieval.SG:s19_IIf_1_noUDG.SG
0.04955246 Spain_Medieval:I10853
0.05245946 Spain_Medieval:I10895
0.05568946 Spain_Medieval:I10892
0.05730446 Spain_Medieval:I10852
0.07305044 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-9.SG
0.07316914 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-10.SG
0.07926846 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG:R60.SG
0.07958014 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval:Anapa-11.SG
0.07991446 Italy_Medieval.SG:VK536_noUDG.SG
0.11352114 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG:R3359.SG
0.11503014 Turkey_PostMedieval:I4539

ScandinavianCelt
04-29-2024, 11:29 PM
Target: PARENT.1.IMPUTED.DNAGEN.RSIDMERGED.OFFICIAL.G25
Chebyshev distance: 0.7008% / 0.00700809 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.0 Oland
23.8 Piedmont
16.8 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
7.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
5.2 Nordic
1.8 Spain_Medieval

Target: PARENT.2.IMPUTED.DNAGEN.RSIDMERGED.OFFICIAL.G25
Chebyshev distance: 0.8637% / 0.00863733 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.8 Piedmont
16.2 Oland
5.6 Spain_Medieval
3.0 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
1.4 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG

Brad.DNAGen.MrgImp
Chebyshev distance: 0.7150% / 0.00715049 | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.8 Piedmont
12.4 Oland
7.4 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
6.4 Funen
4.6 Spain_Medieval
3.8 Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
2.6 Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.6 Nordic
0.4 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG

Voskos
04-29-2024, 11:43 PM
I'll check it out thanks for pointing that out and do you know how accurate the custom PCA is on the official site everyone uses because I found out some interesting distances that shock me on that site you should try plotting some of your results into that site together with your own and see what you plot out with it's pretty interesting I think especially when you aggregate groups like Russia Smolensk is closer to me than Ireland in some ways although they both are almost identically on top of me with a couple samples but I don't know it seems strange to me

I guess PCAs work differently, each of the 25 components (coordinates) have different/unequal weights, if i understand it correctly, whereas in the normal vahaduo algorithms (both classic and experimental), the 25 components/coordinates have equal weights in the calculation.

Also important:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/hRzmZ.png




Keep in mind that PCs are ranked by how much they describe the data. PC1 reveals the most variation, while PC2 reveals the second most variation. Therefore, differences among clusters along PC1 axis are actually larger than the similar-looking distances along PC2 axis.

https://bioturing.medium.com/principal-component-analysis-explained-simply-894e8f6f4bfb

ScandinavianCelt
04-30-2024, 03:43 PM
use experimental mode for better distances:
https://vahaduo.github.io/chebyshev/

This is regular vahaduo R3P Modern Scaled G25 with my official Ancestry coords vs Chebyshev:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.4716% / 0.00471591 | R3P
64.4 Dutch
29.4 Orcadian
6.2 Jat_Uttar_Pradesh

This is with chebyshev experimental distance:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Chebyshev distance: 0.1797% / 0.00179733 | R3P
47.2 Orcadian
45.0 Swedish
7.8 Pamiri_Ishkashim


Is the chebyshev better?

Gallop
04-30-2024, 04:45 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.1020% / 0.02101973
91.8 Spain_Medieval
4.2 Oxford
4.0 Piedmont

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.7049% / 0.02704943
95.6 Spain_Medieval
3.6 Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.8 Oxford

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 2.5669% / 0.02566878
100.0 Spain_Medieval

Voskos
04-30-2024, 10:22 PM
This is regular vahaduo R3P Modern Scaled G25 with my official Ancestry coords vs Chebyshev:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.4716% / 0.00471591 | R3P
64.4 Dutch
29.4 Orcadian
6.2 Jat_Uttar_Pradesh

This is with chebyshev experimental distance:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Chebyshev distance: 0.1797% / 0.00179733 | R3P
47.2 Orcadian
45.0 Swedish
7.8 Pamiri_Ishkashim


Is the chebyshev better?

Intuitively I would say the algorithm seems to work better on chebyshev mode, than it does with normal. It detects for example your swedish ancestry, which normal mode doesn't. Same happens with me, I always get more relevant groups (given my ancestry) on experimental.
The way I see it, experimental:
1-gives lower distances
2-yields better results (more realistic ancestry sources in relation to your real ancestry).

Dušan
04-30-2024, 10:31 PM
R3P standard mode:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4736% / 0.02473616 | R3P
60.6 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
30.4 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
9.0 Spain_Medieval


R3P Chebyshev mode:

Target: Dušan_scaled
Chebyshev distance: 1.2632% / 0.01263202 | R3P
44.6 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
43.0 Spain_Medieval
12.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG

Kostek
05-01-2024, 02:05 PM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.5444% / 0.02544389 | R5P
45.6 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
39.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
8.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
4.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
2.2 Oland

ScandinavianCelt
05-01-2024, 05:04 PM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.5444% / 0.02544389 | R5P
45.6 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG
39.0 Estonia_Medieval.SG
8.6 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern.SG
4.6 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
2.2 Oland

Nice. Are you 90% Slavic?

Kostek
05-01-2024, 09:59 PM
I'm Polish and a bit Ruthenian on my fathers side. My family tree goes as far as 1600's and I only have Slavic ancestors. But many calculators give me about 10-15% Germanic.

Kostek
05-01-2024, 10:00 PM
Nice. Are you 90% Slavic?

I'm Polish and a bit Ruthenian on my fathers side. My family tree goes as far as 1600's and I only have Slavic ancestors. But many calculators give me about 10-15% Germanic.