What is Veddoid type ?

[EvilDave]

What are their features ? and where is most common ?

[GeistFaust]

They tend to be a more archaic form of the Indid merged with a heavy Australoid component. There are two types of Weddoid types one which is the Western variant and the other is an Eastern variant which is merged with an Asiatic component(Mongoloid) making it the Melanesid type. They are usually found in the more Southern parts of India and even as far north as the periphery of Central India. Here are some pictures to illustrate what they look like.

[HungAryan]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18215&d=1324165848
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18213&d=1324165848

They don't look Indian to me at all.
They look Sub-Saharan African (Negroid), to be honest, at least to me.

[GeistFaust]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18215&d=1324165848
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18213&d=1324165848

They don't look Indian to me at all.
They look Sub-Saharan African (Negroid), to be honest, at least to me.


Then you better start on reading up on the racial variation of India because its very diverse. Its sort of ignorant to say they look Sub-Saharan when they look nothing like it. ;) These are not the darkest and most Negroid looking of the Indian anthropological variants. The Negritos and other related people that occupy the far Southern reaches of Southern India, Adaman, and Nicobar Islands are much darker and Negroid looking. The Melanesid type seems to have a slight Paleo-Mongoloid variant infused in it and they call this type the East-Weddoid.

[Sikeliot]

They look more Australoid than Negroid by far. I don't see any similarity to Sub-Saharan Africans except the skin color.

[GeistFaust]

They look more Australoid than Negroid by far. I don't see any similarity to Sub-Saharan Africans except the skin color.



That is because they are basically an Australoidcized Indid. There is a difference between Australoids and Negroid types which are variant. Australoids can look generically like an extension of Negroid variants but this is not so.

[Agrippa]

Weddoid/Veddoid is in my opinion a race on its own, with genetic relations both to Europoid and Mongoloids, but which remained on the status of the more archaic jungle-inhabitants of South Asia, to put it that way, while having different types and transitions in all directions (transitional types to Europoid, to Mongoloid, to Negritid-Melanesid) and progressive as well as infantile developmental tendencies. The are not Negroid, but closest to the Australoid racial spectrum with some traits, while having, like mentioned, tendencies on their own, as well as regional and type/subtype relations to Europoid or Mongoloid.

Today, India is their centre, though they were and still are, just in a mixed form and lower frequency, very widespread.

In India they are more common in the lower castes and Central-Eastern-Southern tribals.

One of the main types of Weddoid, if you want so the moderate central type, is Gondid, this type can be seen in this examples of more typical Gondids from the Gondi people:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18218&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18219&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18220&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18221&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18222&stc=1&d=1324204951

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18223&stc=1&d=1324204989

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18224&stc=1&d=1324205063

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18225&stc=1&d=1324205066

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18226&stc=1&d=1324205066

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18227&stc=1&d=1324205066

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18228&stc=1&d=1324205066

[Bakura]

It's maybe offtopic, but I'll ask... Are Gypsies Veddoid or Europid race or some blend between these racial types?

[Agrippa]

It's maybe offtopic, but I'll ask... Are Gypsies Veddoid or Europid race or some blend between these racial types?

They are mostly Europid (Nordindid, Indobrachid, Armenoid and different European influences), but have Weddoid admixture.

The more pure Gypsy clans, especially some, for example in Slovakia, have higher rates, while others have almost nothing.

So (Roma-Indian) Gypsies have significant Weddoid admixture, but it depends on the region, clan and individual in question, how much and whether it is significant in them.

I saw Gypsy families which were 50+ percent Weddoid and others which seemed to have close to zero.

Considering that many clans mixed significantly with Europeans and Near Easterners, this is an additional argument for saying they came from a more Southern and/or lower caste, rather than being high caste refugees like some claim.

Because the more pure-extreme Gypsy clans have quite often much more Weddoid than high caste Northern Indians.

[HungAryan]

Then you better start on reading up on the racial variation of India because its very diverse. Its sort of ignorant to say they look Sub-Saharan when they look nothing like it. ;) These are not the darkest and most Negroid looking of the Indian anthropological variants. The Negritos and other related people that occupy the far Southern reaches of Southern India, Adaman, and Nicobar Islands are much darker and Negroid looking. The Melanesid type seems to have a slight Paleo-Mongoloid variant infused in it and they call this type the East-Weddoid.

I know that it's ignorant of me, but anyone with THAT dark skin looks Negroid to me.
And it's not just the skin colour. They also have wide noses, like negroes.


This one could easily pass for African American or something like that:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18221&stc=1&d=1324204843

And this one could easily pass for Ethiopian or Somali:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848

[Nurzat]

you can imagine that in the about 1-2 million gypoes in romania, a considerable number (not necessarily percentage) are veddoid, but still you will clearly differentiate between them and the many indians that came to study or work in construction. also the fact that a romanian with recent gypsy ancestry is SO OBVIOUSLY gypsy mixed and he cannot lie about it, shows clearly that initial gypsies must have been full or almost full veddoids and totally alien to any place outside their region, for mixing with them outside their region still points to the veddoid markers

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[The Alchemist]

I bet the name of the subrace comes from Veda, the ancient indian teachings.

[Agrippa]

I know that it's ignorant of me, but anyone with THAT dark skin looks Negroid to me.
And it's not just the skin colour. They also have wide noses, like negroes.


This one could easily pass for African American or something like that:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18221&stc=1&d=1324204843

And this one could easily pass for Ethiopian or Somali:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848

They are not Negroid because of pigmentation, pigmentation is just one aspect, it decides nothing about race out of context.

Or do you think any sort of blond-blue eyed true Negrid becomes - suddenly - an Europid, even a Nordeuropid? Hell no!

Pigmenation is just one trait or some traits (skin, hair, eye color etc.), but it is the trait combinations which make up the racial definitions. On its own, it means little.

There are darker variants in India and Africa which are still predominantely Europid even and the truly dark Negritids ore Australo-Melanesids are also RACES ON THEIR OWN.

Negrid is more specific than just "dark skinned"!!!

They don't even have the same hair shape, only those with Negritid admixture/tendencies (Malid type of the Weddid race more often)!


I bet the name of the subrace comes from Veda, the ancient indian teachings.

Obviously not, because they were Aryans in the true sense of the word (ethnolinguistic, historical, own description).

It comes from the Veddah people, which were earlier known, but are often mixed too actually:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedda_people

This has nothing to do with the origin of the race, but the origin of the term.

Here pictures of rather Weddoid Vedda people:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Veddah_girl.jpg

http://lanka-houses.com/media/sights/photo/41.jpg

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/people/Vedda%20People%20Hunters%20-%20Sri%20Lanka%20c1936.jpg

It is important to note, that there were Europids, even with higher culture, in India, especially Northern India, long before the Aryans came.

However, the Aryan impact accelerated the spread of Europid genes and memes in India, helped to thrust deep into the archaic populations lands, which were, as a rule, rather Weddoid by race.

If you want so: Aryan leaders and ideas helped to push forward, for all Europids in India, being largely united under this new culture and way of life, when it was about expanding into the areas of and colonising the (comparatively) primitives.

[Imperivm]

What evidence is there to suggest Europids were present in pre-Aryan India?

[Sylvanus]

What evidence is there to suggest Europids were present in pre-Aryan India?

The indids themselvez. Their leptosome mediterranid elements came from the Middle-east probably. Side by side they would be a local progressive mutation of veddids. ;) We donno anything about the looking of the indo-aryans except they were depigmented europids with probably european language from East-Europe.

Pred. orientalid:

http://topnews.in/files/Sacha-Baron-Cohen_0.jpg


Pred. gracile-indid

http://www.indiantvtoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/frieda-pinto-_-dev-patel-270209.jpg

[GeistFaust]

I know that it's ignorant of me, but anyone with THAT dark skin looks Negroid to me.
And it's not just the skin colour. They also have wide noses, like negroes.


This one could easily pass for African American or something like that:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18221&stc=1&d=1324204843

And this one could easily pass for Ethiopian or Somali:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848


Yes I apologize if I said you were ignorant about it, I was just not in a great mood yesterday. ;) Also this has been noted that Ethiopians, Somalians, and Eritreans look noticably similar to some Southern and Central Indians.

I think this might be just a coincidence but it might indicate a distant connection between these two anthropologically. That said if you pay close attention to detail you will see the vast difference between Southern/Central Indian anthropological types and Negroid types.

There might be a generic or superficial resemblance between Negroids and Australoids but that is about the extent of their relationship.

[Agrippa]

What evidence is there to suggest Europids were present in pre-Aryan India?

There are Mesolithic and Neolithic remains in South Asia which are of the Europoid race and even the Dravidians are, if talking about their centers and upper class, more strongly Europoid, though one has to consider high caste transfers from the Aryan parts, that happened too. Mohenjo-daro and Harappa f.e., the Indus Civilisation, was totally dominated (not exclusively, but dominated) by Europid variants.

Here a leading man from the Indus Civilisation:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Mohenjo-daro_Priesterk%C3%B6nig.jpeg/180px-Mohenjo-daro_Priesterk%C3%B6nig.jpeg

The remains found can be interpreted as being robust Aurignacoids, somewhere between Proto-Indoid, Proto-Mediterranoid and Proto-Nordoid, hard to pin down on the bones alone, but in any case robust Aurignacoid Europids dominated the scene.

Anyway, the only people being really more Weddoid are low castes, Central-Eastern-Southern tribals and generally people in the inland areas.

Racial map after Egon Frhr. von Eickstedt:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18231&stc=1&d=1324234347

Linguistic differentiation added:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18232&stc=1&d=1324234419

All coastal and favourable areas have a very strong Europoid impact, whether they being Indo-Aryan or Dravidian and vice versa. The Vedda speak an Aryan language for example, which they surely got only by their social contacts with the Sinhalese in my opinion.

The Vedda people are a good examle for that on Sri Lanka with their refuge areas:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Important_locations_of_Anuradhapura_Kingdom.png

It is not Sinhalese or Tami areas, both took the more favourable and coastal parts.

The same happened largely everywhere in India and whether the Dravidians were indeed the Europoid people of Neolithic Northern India originally or not, the cultural and racial relations point, from very early times on, to the Near East rather and to an early presence of racially-phenotypically Europoid variants in South Asia.

[EvilDave]

Are these Gypsies mixed with Veddoid race ?
http://euroheritage.net/gypsy.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5RORINHHBxw/TJHlsmJKe3I/AAAAAAAAEvw/kMeqAhGU944/s1600/zingari.jpg
http://www.puta.it/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/famiglia-zingara.jpg
http://news.abc24.it/uploads/0a8b2bba890a95aeff359ebf54d7a17200845d6a.jpg

[Agrippa]

Those in the 3rd and 4th picture probably.

[HungAryan]

http://news.abc24.it/uploads/0a8b2bba890a95aeff359ebf54d7a17200845d6a.jpg

This one looks like a Mulatto or Quadron.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Retrato_de_Juan_Pareja%2C_by_Diego_Vel%C3%A1zquez. jpg/519px-Retrato_de_Juan_Pareja%2C_by_Diego_Vel%C3%A1zquez. jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Jose_Goncalves_2008.jpg/575px-Jose_Goncalves_2008.jpg

[Sylvanus]

This one looks like a Mulatto or Quadron.


Coz veddids are connected closer to the negrids. This guy has typical veddoid face. I think very useful see many pix about these "pure" types and after can to recognise the obiviously veddid-root traits among mixed, rather hungarian/european-looking individuals. It is so hardly coz the mixed individuals rather look like arabs or turks but with experience they are distinguishable.

[Vigilance]

They tend to be a more archaic form of the Indid merged with a heavy Australoid component. There are two types of Weddoid types one which is the Western variant and the other is an Eastern variant which is merged with an Asiatic component(Mongoloid) making it the Melanesid type. They are usually found in the more Southern parts of India and even as far north as the periphery of Central India. Here are some pictures to illustrate what they look like.

let's breakdown the pics you posted

pred Weddid, of a distinct subtype, not all Weddoid Indians have this specific admixture, I think she might have slight influence...
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18215&d=1324165848

likely a pure Weddid type with no alteration
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848

slight old strata, "Negrito" tendencies, likely North Indian tribal, Bihar type
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18213&d=1324165848

highly Europiform, almost fully Europid, slight Armenoid influence
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18212&d=1324165848

highly progressive, NordIndid type, typical for Sikhs and Brahmins, Weddoid influence might only be slight, I don't think he has any other Europid influence, just NordIndid-Weddoid, with NordIndid defining the whole look
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18216&d=1324165848

[Vigilance]

They tend to be a more archaic form of the Indid merged with a heavy Australoid component. There are two types of Weddoid types one which is the Western variant and the other is an Eastern variant which is merged with an Asiatic component(Mongoloid) making it the Melanesid type. They are usually found in the more Southern parts of India and even as far north as the periphery of Central India. Here are some pictures to illustrate what they look like.

I strongly doubt that they are simply "proto-Indids" mixed with some kind of now extinct "Australoid"

Weddoids are just Weddoids, a bracket term for all non-Europid archaic types of the subcontinent, which mixed in varying degrees with the oncoming types, mainly Europids, Indids for the dominant Europid throughout India.

And there are MANY different types of Weddoids from my observation.

[Vigilance]

Weddoid/Veddoid is in my opinion a race on its own, with genetic relations both to Europoid and Mongoloids, but which remained on the status of the more archaic jungle-inhabitants of South Asia, to put it that way, while having different types and transitions in all directions (transitional types to Europoid, to Mongoloid, to Negritid-Melanesid) and progressive as well as infantile developmental tendencies. The are not Negroid, but closest to the Australoid racial spectrum with some traits, while having, like mentioned, tendencies on their own, as well as regional and type/subtype relations to Europoid or Mongoloid.

Today, India is their centre, though they were and still are, just in a mixed form and lower frequency, very widespread.

In India they are more common in the lower castes and Central-Eastern-Southern tribals.

One of the main types of Weddoid, if you want so the moderate central type, is Gondid, this type can be seen in this examples of more typical Gondids from the Gondi people:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18218&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18219&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18220&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18221&stc=1&d=1324204843

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18222&stc=1&d=1324204951

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18223&stc=1&d=1324204989

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18224&stc=1&d=1324205063

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18225&stc=1&d=1324205066

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18226&stc=1&d=1324205066

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18227&stc=1&d=1324205066

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18228&stc=1&d=1324205066

this Gond nonsense is the biggest anthropological bullshit that I've ever seen it frustrates me so much.

IF YOU USE THEM TO SORT OUT TAMIL RACIAL PEOPLING YOU CANNOT WORK THEM OUT!

So many Tamil people are not Europid/Indid, so many Tamils are so non-Europid

but the bulk of Tamils can be "mixed Weddoid with Indid influence" - "altered Weddoids(being more on the Weddoid side yet not being fully Weddoid and still different from pure Weddoids" - pure Weddoids

NONE of them look like these damn Gond bastards

you can see Tamils with narrow and refined features albeit with very dark skin and those that don't. And then you syee Tamils which look heavily of another race.

out of all these Gonds, only these people could be mixed with SOME Tamils

lady on the right
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18227&stc=1&d=1324205066

the lady in the middle
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18223&stc=1&d=1324204989

this man is ONE of the many Weddoid types you see amongst Tamils and South Indians at large, though is not pure and has slight Indid influence

https://i9.dainikbhaskar.com/thumbnails/319x278/web2images/www.bhaskar.com/2017/08/31/rockey-yadav_1504153.jpg

[Vigilance]

somewhat standard Indo Melanid, not pure Weddoid type, you will encounter in Tamil Nadu, she probably has Negrito admixture

she still looks better to me than those buttugly, malnourished, Ethiopio-Somalis, that people like to toot around as "Caucasoid"

http://starzone.raagalahari.com/october2008gallery/radhika/radhika1.jpg
http://starzone.raagalahari.com/october2008gallery/radhika/radhika3.jpg

[Vigilance]

you can imagine that in the about 1-2 million gypoes in romania, a considerable number (not necessarily percentage) are veddoid, but still you will clearly differentiate between them and the many indians that came to study or work in construction. also the fact that a romanian with recent gypsy ancestry is SO OBVIOUSLY gypsy mixed and he cannot lie about it, shows clearly that initial gypsies must have been full or almost full veddoids and totally alien to any place outside their region, for mixing with them outside their region still points to the veddoid markers

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http://www.alinhuiu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/banel-nicolita.jpg
http://www.sportuldevrancea.ro/images/sdv/poza_15_168.jpg
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/06/640/Banel-Nicolita-Romania_920505.jpg

this man in particular strikes me as the result of one not pure, mixed, relatively Weddoid parent, mixing with a full European

or the genetic atavistic product of mixing between two mixed Gypsies

he doesn't look European, yet he cannot pass for Indian either, he has a distinct European Caucasoid admixture

I think he has light Aurignacoid but definite Cro Magnid admixture

[Vigilance]

They are not Negroid because of pigmentation, pigmentation is just one aspect, it decides nothing about race out of context.

Or do you think any sort of blond-blue eyed true Negrid becomes - suddenly - an Europid, even a Nordeuropid? Hell no!

Pigmenation is just one trait or some traits (skin, hair, eye color etc.), but it is the trait combinations which make up the racial definitions. On its own, it means little.

There are darker variants in India and Africa which are still predominantely Europid even and the truly dark Negritids ore Australo-Melanesids are also RACES ON THEIR OWN.

Negrid is more specific than just "dark skinned"!!!

They don't even have the same hair shape, only those with Negritid admixture/tendencies (Malid type of the Weddid race more often)!



Obviously not, because they were Aryans in the true sense of the word (ethnolinguistic, historical, own description).

It comes from the Veddah people, which were earlier known, but are often mixed too actually:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedda_people

This has nothing to do with the origin of the race, but the origin of the term.

Here pictures of rather Weddoid Vedda people:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Veddah_girl.jpg

http://lanka-houses.com/media/sights/photo/41.jpg

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/people/Vedda%20People%20Hunters%20-%20Sri%20Lanka%20c1936.jpg

It is important to note, that there were Europids, even with higher culture, in India, especially Northern India, long before the Aryans came.

However, the Aryan impact accelerated the spread of Europid genes and memes in India, helped to thrust deep into the archaic populations lands, which were, as a rule, rather Weddoid by race.

If you want so: Aryan leaders and ideas helped to push forward, for all Europids in India, being largely united under this new culture and way of life, when it was about expanding into the areas of and colonising the (comparatively) primitives.

this girl is not Weddoid but rather Negrito and extremely beautiful and of a type you can find amongst Tamils but NOT the Vedda
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Veddah_girl.jpg

yes these men are better examples of Weddids, but they are only part of the spectrum, of which there are many more types
http://lanka-houses.com/media/sights/photo/41.jpg

[Etelfrido]

There are Mesolithic and Neolithic remains in South Asia which are of the Europoid race and even the Dravidians are, if talking about their centers and upper class, more strongly Europoid, though one has to consider high caste transfers from the Aryan parts, that happened too. Mohenjo-daro and Harappa f.e., the Indus Civilisation, was totally dominated (not exclusively, but dominated) by Europid variants.

Here a leading man from the Indus Civilisation:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Mohenjo-daro_Priesterk%C3%B6nig.jpeg/180px-Mohenjo-daro_Priesterk%C3%B6nig.jpeg

The remains found can be interpreted as being robust Aurignacoids, somewhere between Proto-Indoid, Proto-Mediterranoid and Proto-Nordoid, hard to pin down on the bones alone, but in any case robust Aurignacoid Europids dominated the scene.

Anyway, the only people being really more Weddoid are low castes, Central-Eastern-Southern tribals and generally people in the inland areas.

Racial map after Egon Frhr. von Eickstedt:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18231&stc=1&d=1324234347

Linguistic differentiation added:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18232&stc=1&d=1324234419

All coastal and favourable areas have a very strong Europoid impact, whether they being Indo-Aryan or Dravidian and vice versa. The Vedda speak an Aryan language for example, which they surely got only by their social contacts with the Sinhalese in my opinion.

The Vedda people are a good examle for that on Sri Lanka with their refuge areas:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Important_locations_of_Anuradhapura_Kingdom.png

It is not Sinhalese or Tami areas, both took the more favourable and coastal parts.

The same happened largely everywhere in India and whether the Dravidians were indeed the Europoid people of Neolithic Northern India originally or not, the cultural and racial relations point, from very early times on, to the Near East rather and to an early presence of racially-phenotypically Europoid variants in South Asia.
Interesting, though I wonder what could be said about their predecessors, i.e. ancient Veddoids, as they're associated with Australoids and Malays and there's a hypothesis according to which they arrived in India from Mesopotamia.

[Sarin]

I know that it's ignorant of me, but anyone with THAT dark skin looks Negroid to me.
And it's not just the skin colour. They also have wide noses, like negroes.


This one could easily pass for African American or something like that:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18221&stc=1&d=1324204843

And this one could easily pass for Ethiopian or Somali:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18214&d=1324165848


One of the distinguishing feature I notice b/w these Veddoids & Negro Africans is the hair texture . While straight/wavy hair seem as common among former as per my experience , they seem rare among latter of what I have come across (mainly through net or TV) ; in fact none I can recall had naturally straight hair . All of them had curly hair . Even the curly hair of many of them were such (like circular rings or something) that I have rarely , if ever , come across among masses from Veddoid influenced regions (Bihar , UP , South etc.)

But besides hair , I think there still seem such differences in physical features that majority of them can be correctly guessed apart (well..it would have been interesting in this regard if someone post Negro Africans with straight hair , artificial or not , without mentioning their background alongwith equal no. of Veddoids so as to guess between the two) .

[lei.talk]

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VEDDID (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#VEDDID) (Vedda Virchow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Virchow) & Sarasin (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Sarasin), Homo veddalis Haekel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Haeckel), Weddid Eickstedt (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_von_Eickstedt), Australoid Hooton (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?73486-quot-it-is-so-easy-that-a-six-year-old-girl-can-do-it-quot&p=1854047&viewfull=1#post1854047), Ceylonesian-Sundanesian Cheboksarov (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Чебоксаров,_Николай_Николаевич), Veddoid Cole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Mary_Cole), Veddid Lundman (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?73486-quot-it-is-so-easy-that-a-six-year-old-girl-can-do-it-quot&p=6372266&viewfull=1#post6372266), Veddidi Biasutti (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?374972-Racial-Anthropology-Literature&p=7828039&viewfull=1#post7828039), Vedda Vallois (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?379308-If-a-lot-of-South-Slavs-immigrate-to-Sweden-Stockholm&p=7869774#post7869774))
Southeastern Asian racial type, considered a member of the greater "Australoid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#AUSTRALOID)" group, however the relation to Australids (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#AUSTRALID) is uncertain and provisional, and may be nothing but a shared retention of the generalized (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#GENERALIZED) Pleistocene human morphology. Veddids are small-statured, gracile and stocky (pyknomorphic (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#PYKNOMORPHIC)). The head is moderately low, and the face is roundish and euryprosopic (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#EURYPROSOPIC) and often characterized by strongly developed browridges (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#BROWRIDGE). The nose is moderately broad, short and snub (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#NASAL%20INDEX%20(N.I.)), with extended alae (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#ALA), and the mouth is "childlike", bending down at the corners. The skin tone varies between medium and very dark brown, the hair is wavy and black, and the eyes are brown. Veddids are most common in the forest mountains of India and the park jungles of Sri Lanka (the Gondid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#GONDID) and Malid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#MALID), including the transitional Indo-Melanid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#INDO-MELANID) and Melanid (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#MELANID) varieties); they constitute an important element in the population of the Indian Subcontinent. Their eastward distribution from India is characterized by a sliding transition to Paleo-Mongolids (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm#PALEO-MONGOLID).

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[Katarzyna]

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My classmate was classified Veddid + Karnatid