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It's believed that the Russian wooden architecture is the most fine and sophisticated in the world.
Judge for yourself
http://bibliotekar.ru/rusZod/index.htm
Follow the links on the right
Brynhild
04-18-2009, 03:29 PM
Sorry Hors, but when I opened that page, the site was declared as having a virus.
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 03:34 PM
What about trying these then ?
http://visualrian.com/lists/item/11762
http://www.russia-ic.com/culture_art/museums/377/
http://www.avantart.com/russ/oct97/mkarelie.html
http://www.museum.vladimir.ru/eng/towns/suzdal/mdz_e?menu=mdz
http://englishrussia.com/images/wooden_windows/1.jpg
http://www.withirene.com/images/kizhihi/kizhi.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/%7Evodopyan/photos/Russia_boat_trip_2005/09_Kizhi_1.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uFvf-iwo3Wo/SNvI8UK_AzI/AAAAAAAAuT0/hqYOtUG_-as/Kizhi+Island_231.jpg
Absinthe
04-18-2009, 03:37 PM
These buildings frighten me :( They remind me of the doomed Church in Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness". :( Sorry, just had to say that :....
Kizhi, Northern Russia
http://kizhi.info/resources/3883-original.jpeg
http://statuslab.msk.ru/uploads/2006/12/kizhi-2.jpg
http://smages.com/i/81/13/8113a83001fbb89a4df03d4521c37d05.jpg
http://www.teplohod.com/Articles/K06.jpg
During WWII the Finnish command ordered to bomb the Kizhi complex out, but the Finnish pilot who was assigned on the mission did not accomplish it when he saw how beautiful it was and lied to his command that the object was destroyed, while he dropped the bomb in the Onega Lake.
Well, it looks like there are decent people even among Finns. Thanks a lot and live long, Laus-Dey Saxel! (phoenetic translation from Russian) If only all Finns were that human.
Tristan
Your last picture has nothing to do with Russian architecture. It's a craze project of the wooden skyscraper in Arkhangelsk. It was so ugly the authorities bulldozed it off.
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 03:44 PM
Some more pictures of Kizhi:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Kischi_Winterkirche_Ikonostase.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Kishi_summer_church_interior.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Kischi_Panorama.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Kizhi_farmhouse_03.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Kishi_church_detail_roof_02.jpg
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 03:45 PM
Tristan
Your last picture has nothing to do with Russian architecture. It's a craze project of the wooden skyscraper in Arkhangelsk. It was so ugly the authorities bulldozed it off.
I didn't know. I thought that it was some contemporary project but the idea of building a skyscraper out of wood amazed me and I thought that the project was not yet completed. So I'll remove it.
Vargtand
04-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Very nice architecture! though it does not rival Norse stave churches.. then again these seem to still stand unlike most of ours so I dunno :P
Yeah, I kept the Norse stave churches in mind as the the closest rival. Still, the Russian wooden architecture is cooler.
Do you use nails inyour stave churches? What's the oldest stave church which still exists?
Skandi
04-18-2009, 04:28 PM
These are absolutely lovely, (marks them down as a must see) How long do they last? Bigger than most stave Churches I have seen, but I suppose that is something both the Russians and the Americans go in for :)
Vargtand
04-18-2009, 04:30 PM
Yeah, I kept the Norse stave churches in mind as the the closest rival. Still, the Russian wooden architecture is cooler.
Do you use nails inyour stave churches? What's the oldest stave church which still exists?
I belive this one (at least on wikipedia:P) ca. 1100
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/EgliseBoisDeboutNorvege2.jpg
Most are in Norway (heck all are except for one which is in Sweden) that are older than the 16th century and to be honest the one in Sweden looks like a small shack :P I don't really know to be honest if they use nails or not.. (I'll look that up if I can)
This one is the Swedish strangely enough not far from where I am born :P
Ca 1500
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Hedareds_stavkyrka.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church#The_old_stave_churches
And.. no norse are cooler, we have dragons on ours! :P
Psychonaut
04-18-2009, 06:27 PM
I'd never seen any wooden Russian churches before this thread. They're absolutely stunning. I'll simply have to find the time in my life to go see them.
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 06:52 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Russia-Pskov_Oblast-Stayki-Church-1.jpg
Pskov. A sad image and I am sure that this is not an unfamilar sight to Russians as the countryside is running dry and people are leaving for the cities. Someone should fix up this baby..... real soon.
http://www.russia-ic.com/img/culture_art/malye_korely.jpg
Malye Karely (Arkhangelsk Region)
http://ullam.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/16/13.jpg
Another amazing looking dacha
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Dommuzejpasternak.jpg
Not traditional but still interesting: Pasternak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Pasternak)'s dacha in Peredelkino.
http://www.astronomy-images.com/day-images/California/PtReyes/dacha.KI8Q0689.jpg
That's not Russian. There is a kind of a palm tree on the right :D
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 07:04 PM
http://www.astronomy-images.com/day-images/California/PtReyes/dacha.KI8Q0689.jpg
That's not Russian. There is a kind of a palm tree on the right :D
I noticed that too late :D It was Inverness, Scotland. But the wood carving looked typically Russian for my untrained eye.
Skandi
04-18-2009, 07:07 PM
Palms don't grow in Inverness either it must be a cordyline of some sort, I would imagine they could survive in Russia.
EDIT:
No it is a palm and that is not in Scotland it's
Point Reyes National Seashore CA
Are we picking on you Tristan?
no way something with such evergreen leaves can survive in Russia
the only plot in Russia as warm as Scotland is Sochi
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 07:11 PM
Here is the full link (http://www.astronomy-images.com/day-images/California/PtReyes/point-reyes-landscapes.htm).
It is on Tomales Bay. I am sure it must be a cordyline... :D Too weird- first I thought that it was somewhere in Southern Russia that some nut had build a strange looking dacha there but the hills already told me otherwise.
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 07:20 PM
http://englishrussia.com/images/abandoned_wooden_houses/1.jpg
Sad images on this (http://englishrussia.com/?p=1808)site: abandoned Russian wooden houses. But the architecture is stunning... if only I had enough money...
Despite the desolate state that the buildings are in- the wood carvings remains as exquisite as ever.
Those wooden churches look quite nice.
Manifest Destiny
04-18-2009, 08:27 PM
These buildings frighten me :( They remind me of the doomed Church in Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness". :( Sorry, just had to say that :....
Do you read Sutter Cain? :confused:
Sarmata
04-18-2009, 09:34 PM
We got also our barns...I mean wooden churches:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2hfuady.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/t02sl3.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/1413uwh.jpg
They're from XIV-XVI century.
And suprise...we got even one church from Norway:
http://i39.tinypic.com/lzhhd.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/ivlncg.jpg
I hope that Varg doesn't see that.;)
Bloodeagle
04-18-2009, 10:02 PM
Palms don't grow in Inverness either it must be a cordyline of some sort, I would imagine they could survive in Russia.
EDIT:
No it is a palm and that is not in Scotland it's
Point Reyes National Seashore CA
Are we picking on you Tristan?
This looks like a Yucca plant, not sure which variety, but a Yucca nonetheless.
Very common landscape plant on the West coast of the U.S.A.
I use to have one in my yard in Seattle, Washington.
Bloodeagle
04-18-2009, 10:07 PM
Here is the full link (http://www.astronomy-images.com/day-images/California/PtReyes/point-reyes-landscapes.htm).
It is on Tomales Bay. I am sure it must be a cordyline... :D Too weird- first I thought that it was somewhere in Southern Russia that some nut had build a strange looking dacha there but the hills already told me otherwise.
These settlements constituted the southernmost Russian colony in North America
Yes, how could I forget it... California is Russian!!!
Bloodeagle
04-18-2009, 10:35 PM
Yes, how could I forget it... California is Russian!!!
Russian California was used as a supply post to feed the Russian American capitol in Sitka, Alaska. They sold the colony.
In 1839, the Russian-American Company signed an agreement with the Hudson Bay Company to supply Sitka with provisions from its settlements in present-day Washington and Oregon. Soon afterward, the Russian-American Company decided to abandon the Ross Colony. First, they tried to sell it to the Mexican government. When that failed, they approached Mariano Vallejo and others. In December 1841, they reached an agreement with John Sutter of Sutter's Fort in the Sacramento Valley. Within a few months, the Russians were gone. Sutter sent his trusted assistant, John Bidwell, to Fort Ross to gather up the arms, ammunition, hardware, and other valuables, including herds of cattle, sheep, and other animals, and transport them to Sutter's Fort in the Sacramento Valley. Thereafter, the buildings at Fort Ross that were not dismantled and removed by Sutter were used for a variety of purposes by successive owners. In 1873, the area was acquired by George W. Call, who established the 15,000 acre Call Ranch.
The Call family continued to hold the property until 1903, when the fort and about three acres of land were purchased by the California Historical Landmarks Committee. In March 1906, the site was turned over to the State of California for preservation and restoration as a state historic monument. Since then, more acreage has been acquired (a total of 3,277 acres as of 1992) to preserve the site of the old Russian establishment and some of its surrounding environment. Extensive restoration and reconstruction work has been carried out by the California Department of Parks and Recreation, so that today you can again see Fort Ross somewhat as it looked when the Russians were here.
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 10:36 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Russia-Suzdal-Church_of_Nicholas_from_Glotovo-3.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Russia-Suzdal-Church_of_Nicholas_from_Glotovo-1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Russia-Suzdal-Church_of_Nicholas_from_Glotovo-2.jpg
I have found some pictures of a wooden church in Suzdal:
The building itself is very simple and somehow very attractive.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Russian_laquered_box_-_Suzdal.jpg
I also found this picture of something that has little to do with architecture but all the more with art. A lacquered box from Suzdal
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2663285458_029e004386.jpg?v=1215925416
A thing that struck me where the carvings on a house in Ughlich.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Prokudin-Gorskii-09-edit2.jpg
A picture that I found on on wikipedia about the Nilov monestary on Stolobny Island. You probably wouldn't believe it but this picture was taken in 1910 ! Click here for more modern views (http://www.ostashkov.ru/prokudin-2003/prokudin.asp)
I guess that, frankly, I am a sucker for wooden buildings and wood carvings.
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Palms don't grow in Inverness either it must be a cordyline of some sort, I would imagine they could survive in Russia.
EDIT:
No it is a palm and that is not in Scotland it's
Point Reyes National Seashore CA
Are we picking on you Tristan?
And I was wrong. It is Inverness, California.:icon_redface:
The Lawspeaker
04-18-2009, 10:57 PM
And just because I like it so much:
This particular monastery "Gamina Jama" was build over the disused mineshaft where after the revolution and the murder of the Imperial Family the bodies of the Imperial Family where thrown in. According to Dutch wikipedia this monastery was build in commemoration of the Imperial Family (seen there as martyrs) and was only build recently (one of the latest churches completed as late as 2003).
I stumbled upon this by accident as I didn't even know that a monastery in their honor existed:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Ganina_Jama_Ingang.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Ganina_Jama_2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Ganina_Jama_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Ganina_Jama_monument.jpg
And because I forgot it the first time: some pictures of carvings in Ughlich (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12090392@N02/2663285458/)
Brynhild
04-19-2009, 01:15 AM
I'm just absolutely gob-smacked by the amazing architecture. They're all beautiful.
Once I've palmed my kids off, I want to buy a round-the-world ticket just so I can see them all! :D
The Lawspeaker
04-19-2009, 01:17 AM
I would do something very similar.. first to countries in East Asia to see their architecture (I am a sucker for Japanese architecture, interior design and Japanese design in general) and then travel back via Russia and Norway to see how they did it.;)
sevruk
10-05-2013, 09:11 AM
http://cs9409.vk.me/v9409867/d38/7Z2FuBOXLNk.jpg
inactive_member
10-05-2013, 09:34 AM
Archangel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m54x5bvGv_A
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