View Full Version : Euro-Waters Calc v2 K13, and v3 K5 Simplified
ScandinavianCelt
05-06-2024, 09:07 PM
I've refined "Landlubber" into 4 groups, and divided N & S Atlantic into N (Cornish and up) and W (Brittany and down).
Results of v2 could look better for the Landlubbers, mostly.
V2 K13:
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V3: K5, Simplified (will alter results)
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v2 results:
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.8728% / 0.01872843 | ADC: 2x RC
52.4 Baltic_Sea_W
47.6 North_Sea_N
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.6447% / 0.01644680 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.4 North_Sea_N
29.2 Baltic_Sea_W
17.4 North_Atlantic_N
14.0 Baltic_Sea_E
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.4410% / 0.01440960
36.6 North_Atlantic_N
35.0 North_Sea_N
21.6 Baltic_Sea_E
5.8 East_Med
1.0 Central_Med
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v3 K5 Simplfied results:
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 2.2216% / 0.02221639 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 North_Sea_Averaged
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.6428% / 0.01642791 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.4 North_Sea_Averaged
35.6 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.6418% / 0.01641781
62.8 North_Sea_Averaged
36.6 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
0.6 Mediterranean_Averaged
Samples mapped
https://i.postimg.cc/c4zzSp2Y/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-05-06-T170821-056.png (https://postimages.org/)
Conclusion?
v2:
Instead of my normal Dutch-Irish @2x, this calc gives about same 50-50 breakdown %, roughly, but Danish (Baltic_W)-Scottish/Norwegian (North_Sea_N) instead.
v3:
Filters all my modern mixture into the North Sea.
nittionia
05-06-2024, 09:11 PM
My dad's. What's this landlubber source?
Target: nittioniasdad_scaled
Distance: 1.6029% / 0.01602893
54.8 North_Atlantic_N-NW
28.6 Landlubber_East_Euro
11.0 North_Sea_N
3.0 West_Med
2.2 Baltic_Sea_E
0.4 Landlubber_Russian
ScandinavianCelt
05-06-2024, 09:16 PM
My dad's. What's this landlubber source?
Target: nittioniasdad_scaled
Distance: 1.6029% / 0.01602893
54.8 North_Atlantic_N-NW
28.6 Landlubber_East_Euro
11.0 North_Sea_N
3.0 West_Med
2.2 Baltic_Sea_E
0.4 Landlubber_Russian
It's an average of select Romanian, Hungarian, Slovakian, Belarusian, Polish, Moldovan, and Ukrainian.
ScandinavianCelt
05-06-2024, 09:26 PM
My dad's. What's this landlubber source?
Target: nittioniasdad_scaled
Distance: 1.6029% / 0.01602893
54.8 North_Atlantic_N-NW
28.6 Landlubber_East_Euro
11.0 North_Sea_N
3.0 West_Med
2.2 Baltic_Sea_E
0.4 Landlubber_Russian
Does it look accurate for what you know of his background?
nittionia
05-06-2024, 09:29 PM
Does it look accurate for what you know of his background?
We don't really have known ancestry from those areas, but he always gets about 30% east slavic on G25 calculators. So I wouldn't say this makes your calculator inaccurate :)
ScandinavianCelt
05-06-2024, 10:07 PM
We don't really have known ancestry from those areas, but he always gets about 30% east slavic on G25 calculators. So I wouldn't say this makes your calculator inaccurate :)
I'm curious if you average his K13-K15-K36 sims and run it with those on this calc how it would shift him. Mine shift to a tighter fit and Landlubber shows up (pre-Baltic perhaps?):
Target: Brad.G25AVERAGED:K13.K15.K36.1154395.SNP.Gedmatch
Distance: 0.8720% / 0.00871974
69.6 North_Atlantic_N-NW
22.6 Landlubber_East_Euro
7.0 Baltic_Sea_W
0.8 Baltic_Sea_E
ScandinavianCelt
05-06-2024, 10:08 PM
double posted
nittionia
05-06-2024, 10:31 PM
I'm curious if you average his K13-K15-K36 sims and run it with those on this calc how it would shift him. Mine shift to a tighter fit and Landlubber shows up (pre-Baltic perhaps?):
Target: Brad.G25AVERAGED:K13.K15.K36.1154395.SNP.Gedmatch
Distance: 0.8720% / 0.00871974
69.6 North_Atlantic_N-NW
22.6 Landlubber_East_Euro
7.0 Baltic_Sea_W
0.8 Baltic_Sea_E
That is what I got when I averaged them together
Target: nittioniasdadK13K15K36
Distance: 2.1162% / 0.02116210
40.8 Baltic_Sea_W
26.0 North_Atlantic_N-NW
14.0 Landlubber_East_Euro
8.0 Baltic_Sea_E
6.6 North_Sea_N
4.6 West_Med
Target: cass
Distance: 1.8423% / 0.01842313
56.6 Landlubber_East_Euro
25.8 Baltic_Sea_W
17.6 Baltic_Sea_E
Target: cass
Distance: 2.7721% / 0.02772071
62.4 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
26.2 Landlubber_Averaged
11.4 North_Sea_Averaged
ScandinavianCelt
05-06-2024, 11:33 PM
That is what I got when I averaged them together
Target: nittioniasdadK13K15K36
Distance: 2.1162% / 0.02116210
40.8 Baltic_Sea_W
26.0 North_Atlantic_N-NW
14.0 Landlubber_East_Euro
8.0 Baltic_Sea_E
6.6 North_Sea_N
4.6 West_Med
It's interesting that I get a tighter fit much tighter almost 50% tighter fit when I do the average but in his case he got a lower fit I wonder why anyway I wonder which one's more accurate for him also or maybe they're both equally accurate it's just a slightly different time period that each is revealing
Dušan
05-07-2024, 04:12 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.5876% / 0.02587588
44.2 Landlubber_SE_Euro
40.0 Landlubber_East_Euro
9.6 Baltic_Sea_E
6.2 West_Med
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 3.6918% / 0.03691759
65.6 Landlubber_Averaged
21.0 Mediterranean_Averaged
13.4 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
lockdownboredom
05-07-2024, 04:56 PM
Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 3.1512% / 0.03151159
66.4 Landlubber_SE_Euro
33.4 Central_Med
0.2 West_Med
Target: Nephew_scaled
Distance: 2.3327% / 0.02332715
51.8 Landlubber_SE_Euro
34.4 East_Med
13.8 West_Med
v2
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 2.1074% / 0.02107360 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Landlubber_Central_Euro
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.7346% / 0.01734645 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.6 Landlubber_Central_Euro
39.4 North_Sea_S
17.0 Landlubber_East_Euro
v3
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 3.2332% / 0.03233224 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 North_Atlantic_Averaged
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 2.1748% / 0.02174817 | ADC: 0.5x RC
62.0 North_Atlantic_Averaged
38.0 Landlubber_Averaged
celticdragongod
05-08-2024, 12:01 AM
V2K13:
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01720422 North_Sea_N
0.01985352 North_Atlantic_N-NW
0.02313597 Baltic_Sea_W
0.02535099 North_Sea_S
0.04634926 Landlubber_Central_Euro
0.05558608 Landlubber_East_Euro
0.06357800 North_Atlantic_W-SW
0.07039072 Baltic_Sea_E
0.08206002 Landlubber_SE_Euro
0.13276350 Central_Med
0.13639152 Landlubber_Russian
0.14833116 East_Med
0.16126122 West_Med
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6074% / 0.01607448
62.2 North_Sea_N
16.8 North_Sea_S
16.6 North_Atlantic_N-NW
4.4 Baltic_Sea_E
V3K5:
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01810106 North_Sea_Averaged
0.03639642 North_Atlantic_Averaged
0.04050240 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
0.06238710 Landlubber_Averaged
0.13839191 Mediterranean_Averaged
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7287% / 0.01728739
87.2 North_Sea_Averaged
12.8 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
ScandinavianCelt
05-08-2024, 12:48 AM
V2K13:
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01720422 North_Sea_N
0.01985352 North_Atlantic_N-NW
0.02313597 Baltic_Sea_W
0.02535099 North_Sea_S
0.04634926 Landlubber_Central_Euro
0.05558608 Landlubber_East_Euro
0.06357800 North_Atlantic_W-SW
0.07039072 Baltic_Sea_E
0.08206002 Landlubber_SE_Euro
0.13276350 Central_Med
0.13639152 Landlubber_Russian
0.14833116 East_Med
0.16126122 West_Med
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6074% / 0.01607448
62.2 North_Sea_N
16.8 North_Sea_S
16.6 North_Atlantic_N-NW
4.4 Baltic_Sea_E
V3K5:
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01810106 North_Sea_Averaged
0.03639642 North_Atlantic_Averaged
0.04050240 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
0.06238710 Landlubber_Averaged
0.13839191 Mediterranean_Averaged
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7287% / 0.01728739
87.2 North_Sea_Averaged
12.8 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
Interesting, because the Cornwall sample is averaged into the North_Atlantic.
ScandinavianCelt
07-05-2024, 12:04 AM
V2K13:
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01720422 North_Sea_N
0.01985352 North_Atlantic_N-NW
0.02313597 Baltic_Sea_W
0.02535099 North_Sea_S
0.04634926 Landlubber_Central_Euro
0.05558608 Landlubber_East_Euro
0.06357800 North_Atlantic_W-SW
0.07039072 Baltic_Sea_E
0.08206002 Landlubber_SE_Euro
0.13276350 Central_Med
0.13639152 Landlubber_Russian
0.14833116 East_Med
0.16126122 West_Med
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6074% / 0.01607448
62.2 North_Sea_N
16.8 North_Sea_S
16.6 North_Atlantic_N-NW
4.4 Baltic_Sea_E
V3K5:
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01810106 North_Sea_Averaged
0.03639642 North_Atlantic_Averaged
0.04050240 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
0.06238710 Landlubber_Averaged
0.13839191 Mediterranean_Averaged
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7287% / 0.01728739
87.2 North_Sea_Averaged
12.8 Baltic_Sea_Averaged
I think I need to use only my ancestry official ones to get the most accurate results:
Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.7419% / 0.01741851
47.0 North_Atlantic_N-NW
24.6 North_Sea_N
19.8 Baltic_Sea_E
8.2 East_Med
0.4 Landlubber_Russian
Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.9081% / 0.01908066 | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.4 Baltic_Sea_W
32.0 North_Sea_N
22.4 North_Atlantic_N-NW
7.2 Landlubber_Russian
Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.1119% / 0.02111941 | ADC: 1x RC
60.6 Baltic_Sea_W
39.4 North_Sea_N
Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.2632% / 0.02263240 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Baltic_Sea_W
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