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Leopold
05-12-2024, 04:45 PM
Do they ever get Italian or Spanish as the closest distance population on Gedmatch calculators?

Anatolya
05-12-2024, 05:10 PM
Yes, they do



Southern French
Kit Z205480

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.06
2 West_Med 32.15
3 East_Med 9.35
4 Baltic 7.23
5 East_Asian 1.18
6 Red_Sea 0.85
7 Amerindian 0.55
8 Oceanian 0.25
9 West_Asian 0.25
10 Northeast_African 0.08
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 5.35
2 French_Basque 7.59
3 Spanish_Cantabria 7.59
4 Southwest_French 7.86
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.33
6 Spanish_Valencia 9.69
7 Spanish_Andalucia 10.01
8 Spanish_Cataluna 10.21
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.22
10 Spanish_Murcia 10.49
11 Spanish_Extremadura 11.66
12 Spanish_Galicia 11.9
13 Portuguese 12.34
14 French 16.07
15 North_Italian 19.13
16 South_Dutch 20.87
17 Southwest_English 21.75
18 West_German 21.93
19 Southeast_English 22.48
20 Orcadian 24.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.3% Spanish_Aragon + 40.7% French_Basque @ 1.69
2 56.4% French_Basque + 43.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.84
3 58.5% French_Basque + 41.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.98
4 52.6% French_Basque + 47.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.51
5 84.5% French_Basque + 15.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.54
6 57.6% French_Basque + 42.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.63
7 58.1% French_Basque + 41.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.66
8 58.1% French_Basque + 41.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.66
9 62.9% French_Basque + 37.1% Portuguese @ 2.7
10 77.8% French_Basque + 22.2% Tuscan @ 2.72
11 72.8% French_Basque + 27.2% North_Italian @ 2.77
12 61.6% French_Basque + 38.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.78
13 85.2% French_Basque + 14.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.91
14 81.8% French_Basque + 18.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.98
15 89.3% French_Basque + 10.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.11
16 85.5% French_Basque + 14.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.15
17 50% Spanish_Cantabria + 50% French_Basque @ 3.16
18 85.7% French_Basque + 14.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.17
19 86.7% French_Basque + 13.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.18
20 90.6% French_Basque + 9.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.23

gixajo
05-12-2024, 05:31 PM
Yes, they do



Southern French



Well, using a Southern french as single representative of all the Frenchs is somewhat tricky.

I have zero French ancestry and in Eurogenes k13 oracle I get:


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cantabria 4.06
2 Southwest_French 4.64
3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.74
4 Spanish_Galicia 6.14
5 Spanish_Aragon 6.46
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.53
7 Spanish_Extremadura 7.39
8 Spanish_Cataluna 7.48
9 Portuguese 7.84
10 Spanish_Andalucia 7.86
11 Spanish_Valencia 8.04
12 Spanish_Murcia 8.16
13 French 11.84
14 French_Basque 13.75
15 North_Italian 14.82
16 South_Dutch 17.04
17 West_German 17.9
18 Southwest_English 19.85
19 Southeast_English 20.37
20 Tuscan 20.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Spanish_Galicia + 27.3% French_Basque @ 3.58
2 96.5% Southwest_French + 3.5% Somali @ 3.73
3 96.3% Southwest_French + 3.7% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.76
4 96.3% Southwest_French + 3.7% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.77
5 96.7% Southwest_French + 3.3% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.85
6 96.9% Southwest_French + 3.1% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.89
7 98.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.3% Somali @ 3.94
8 94.1% Southwest_French + 5.9% Moroccan @ 3.96
9 98.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.98
10 98.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 1.1% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.98
11 99% Spanish_Cantabria + 1% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.99
12 99% Spanish_Cantabria + 1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.99
13 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.99
14 78% Spanish_Cantabria + 22% Southwest_French @ 4.01
15 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Sakilli @ 4.01
16 95.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.7% French_Basque @ 4.01
17 99% Spanish_Cantabria + 1% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.01
18 99.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.9% Gujarati @ 4.01
19 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.01
20 99.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 0.8% Dharkar @ 4.01

So I would answer: "depending on the type of French we are talking about"

Mopi The Dire Wolf
05-12-2024, 05:33 PM
My closest population match on gedmatch is always France

gixajo
05-12-2024, 05:39 PM
My closest population match on gedmatch is always France

Half British+Half Spaniard= average French

The individual Anatolya showed us is basically a Basque-like southern french, not far from gixajo_enana ;)


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French_Basque 6.6
2 Southwest_French 7.62
3 Spanish_Aragon 7.88
4 Spanish_Cantabria 8.23
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.03
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.67
7 Spanish_Valencia 11.98
8 Spanish_Cataluna 12.01
9 Spanish_Andalucia 12.07
10 Spanish_Galicia 12.49
11 Spanish_Murcia 12.71
12 Spanish_Extremadura 13
13 Portuguese 13.7
14 French 16.7
15 North_Italian 20.82
16 South_Dutch 21.02
17 Southwest_English 21.48
18 West_German 22.32
19 Southeast_English 22.59
20 Orcadian 24.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% French_Basque + 33.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.64
2 54.2% French_Basque + 45.8% Southwest_French @ 2.65
3 56.3% French_Basque + 43.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.7
4 69.7% French_Basque + 30.3% Portuguese @ 3.16
5 68.5% French_Basque + 31.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.19
6 66.1% French_Basque + 33.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.23
7 62.5% French_Basque + 37.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.39
8 84.6% French_Basque + 15.4% Serbian @ 3.41
9 85.6% French_Basque + 14.4% Bulgarian @ 3.42
10 85% French_Basque + 15% Romanian @ 3.44
11 86.1% French_Basque + 13.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.57
12 86.4% French_Basque + 13.6% Moldavian @ 3.62
13 67.5% French_Basque + 32.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.63
14 78.8% French_Basque + 21.2% North_Italian @ 3.66
15 56% French_Basque + 44% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.67
16 67.6% French_Basque + 32.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.69
17 69% French_Basque + 31% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.7
18 86.6% French_Basque + 13.4% Croatian @ 3.76
19 92.4% French_Basque + 7.6% Saudi @ 3.82
20 68.1% French_Basque + 31.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.87


Or gixajo_mom


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 3.83
2 Spanish_Cantabria 3.98
3 Spanish_Aragon 5.05
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.43
5 Spanish_Cataluna 7.21
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.22
7 Spanish_Valencia 7.67
8 Spanish_Galicia 8.05
9 Spanish_Murcia 8.6
10 Spanish_Andalucia 8.86
11 Spanish_Extremadura 9.11
12 Portuguese 9.18
13 French_Basque 10.97
14 French 12.02
15 South_Dutch 16.83
16 North_Italian 16.85
17 West_German 17.93
18 Southwest_English 18.53
19 Southeast_English 19.09
20 Orcadian 21.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 22.5% French_Basque @ 2.48
2 58.3% Spanish_Galicia + 41.7% French_Basque @ 2.62
3 80.3% Southwest_French + 19.7% French_Basque @ 2.82
4 54.9% Portuguese + 45.1% French_Basque @ 3.15
5 61.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 38.2% French_Basque @ 3.19
6 61.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.1% French_Basque @ 3.2
7 66.5% Southwest_French + 33.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.32
8 71.8% French_Basque + 28.2% Serbian @ 3.59
9 56.2% Southwest_French + 43.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.6
10 92.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.1% Southwest_English @ 3.73
11 95.6% Southwest_French + 4.4% Southwest_English @ 3.74
12 99.3% Southwest_French + 0.7% Yoruban @ 3.75
13 99.3% Southwest_French + 0.7% Mandenka @ 3.76
14 96.6% Southwest_French + 3.4% West_Scottish @ 3.76
15 94.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.7% West_Scottish @ 3.76
16 99.3% Southwest_French + 0.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 3.77
17 99.3% Southwest_French + 0.7% Bantu_S.E. @ 3.77
18 99.4% Southwest_French + 0.6% Biaka_Pygmy @ 3.78
19 99.4% Southwest_French + 0.6% Luhya @ 3.79
20 97.3% Southwest_French + 2.7% Irish @ 3.79

Tooting Carmen
05-12-2024, 05:48 PM
As much as Northern Italians and Basques.

Anatolya
05-12-2024, 06:15 PM
Well, using a Southern french as single representative of all the Frenchs is somewhat tricky.


So I would answer: "depending on the type of French we are talking about"

The OP's question is clear, he does not ask for average French but any kind of French to see how Southern shifted they can be. The sample belongs to a Southern French so there's no misinformation provided.

Flashball
05-12-2024, 06:49 PM
Basques like french are not really "southern", they have more WHG and more Western shifted.
Some basques are close to central french with a more extreme western shifted because of their excess of WHG.

Also even some SouthWestern french like people from the Tarn are mostly close to central french.
Basque-like is already a thing among Gaulish: some gaulish without iberian admix are already basque shifted...


Whatever. This is my sample from southern france, French mostly (94%) from Basses-Alpes (provençal area) + 6% from the gard (southern France)
It must also be taken into account that gedmatch only has a few French samples, which biases the results.

Don't have any spaniard ancestors. His southern euro percentage is close to my central french friend 23andme results from the Berry (20% southern euro, aka french)
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539144-bassesalpesgard.png
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539168-bassesalpesgardeurogenes.png
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539161-bassesalpes2.png
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539175-bassesalpesgardphotomap.jpg
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539342-bassesalpesgard2.png
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539352-bassesalpesgardk15.png

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/7/1715539919-sebastien.png


G25
94%04BassesAlpes6%Gard,0.128446890454,0.1464359681 7100002,0.050327536179399994,0.018437258859999764, 0.04487612929900001,0.007267012774639993,0.0022990 115859999848,0.00412871612200006,0.014168730086999 877,0.021325050707999928,-0.004427248554908001,0.005683112051999999,-0.013426734105999996,-0.003294282277999605,0.007530541863000048,0.001109 6216029999606,-0.0018028960980001688,0.0005702859510000116,0.0019 364245190000035,-0.0010191844014000064,0.0027215043320005794,-0.0012782695240000017,-0.0006908925550000149,0.00007200613299994038,0.000 4227839989997123


Central french from Berry 23andme results with +20% southern euro (aka french)
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRK8FlIh7n45cJwR3Vb2d4MXv6XnjO54 V1po2wCf3gpUQ&s

K13
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.14
2 West_Med 22.31
3 Baltic 21.83
4 East_Med 10.86
5 West_Asian 3.34
6 Red_Sea 1.48
7 East_Asian 1.02
8 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 6.01
2 South_Dutch 8.62
3 West_German 8.67
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.64
5 Spanish_Galicia 10.11
6 Portuguese 10.46
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.82
8 Austrian 10.96
9 Southwest_French 11.16
10 Spanish_Cantabria 11.61
11 Spanish_Valencia 11.84
12 Spanish_Extremadura 12.32
13 Spanish_Murcia 12.34
14 East_German 12.6
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.78
16 Southeast_English 13.62
17 Spanish_Andalucia 13.97
18 North_Italian 13.99
19 Hungarian 14.2
20 Serbian 14.57



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78% Spanish_Cataluna + 22% Lithuanian @ 1.68
2 60.7% Spanish_Aragon + 39.3% South_Polish @ 1.69
3 72.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 27.1% Polish @ 1.8
4 75.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 24.3% Belorussian @ 1.82
5 75.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 24.4% Estonian_Polish @ 1.9
6 75.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 24.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.91
7 51.6% Spanish_Valencia + 48.4% East_German @ 2.03
8 70.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 29.7% South_Polish @ 2.03
9 66.9% Spanish_Aragon + 33.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.07
10 67.1% Spanish_Aragon + 32.9% Belorussian @ 2.09
11 76.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.2% Estonian @ 2.12
12 71.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 28.1% Ukrainian @ 2.18
13 66.7% Spanish_Aragon + 33.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.18
14 66.6% Spanish_Aragon + 33.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.21
15 63.9% Spanish_Aragon + 36.1% Polish @ 2.24
16 62.5% Spanish_Aragon + 37.5% Ukrainian @ 2.26
17 68.7% Spanish_Valencia + 31.3% Polish @ 2.29
18 56.2% Southwest_French + 43.8% Hungarian @ 2.34
19 67% Spanish_Aragon + 33% Estonian_Polish @ 2.35
20 74.4% Spanish_Valencia + 25.6% Lithuanian @ 2.36

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 6.753163
2 West_German @ 9.696129
3 South_Dutch @ 9.739173
4 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.856657
5 Spanish_Galicia @ 11.266022
6 Portuguese @ 11.673985
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 12.100055
8 Austrian @ 12.320553
9 Southwest_French @ 12.494272
10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 13.000755
11 Spanish_Valencia @ 13.339538
12 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.787277
13 Spanish_Murcia @ 13.877825
14 East_German @ 14.195065
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 14.334160
16 Southeast_English @ 15.500670
17 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.692477
18 Hungarian @ 15.964767
19 North_Italian @ 16.029490
20 Spanish_Aragon @ 16.424719

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.159051


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Southwest_French +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.054640


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Belorussian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.664576
2 Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.727973
3 Belorussian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.743852
4 French + South_Polish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.827846
5 Belorussian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.884937
6 Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.887586
7 Belorussian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.899088
8 French + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian @ 1.913587
9 Belorussian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.914307
10 Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.943077
11 Belorussian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.955980
12 Belorussian + French + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.974231
13 Lithuanian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.985105
14 Belorussian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.989829
15 French + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.990166
16 Estonian_Polish + French + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.991226
17 Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.993915
18 Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.994753
19 Belorussian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.008590
20 Estonian_Polish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.010555




K15
1 North_Sea 27.29
2 Atlantic 24.08
3 West_Med 18.1
4 Baltic 10.03
5 East_Med 8.48
6 Eastern_Euro 8.12
7 West_Asian 2.06
8 Red_Sea 1.4
9 Southeast_Asian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.83
2 Spanish_Galicia 7.69
3 South_Dutch 8.07
4 Spanish_Cataluna 8.55
5 Portuguese 8.93
6 West_German 9.32
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.21
8 Spanish_Extremadura 10.89
9 Spanish_Murcia 11.15
10 Southwest_English 11.68
11 Spanish_Cantabria 11.96
12 East_German 12.36
13 North_Italian 12.83
14 Southwest_French 12.87
15 Spanish_Valencia 12.96
16 Southeast_English 13.15
17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.6
18 Austrian 13.73
19 Serbian 13.97
20 North_German 13.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70% Danish + 30% Sardinian @ 2.6
2 70.1% North_Dutch + 29.9% Sardinian @ 2.98
3 67.8% Norwegian + 32.2% Sardinian @ 3.23
4 66.8% Swedish + 33.2% Sardinian @ 3.25
5 82.6% South_Dutch + 17.4% Sardinian @ 3.28
6 72% North_German + 28% Sardinian @ 3.36
7 80.1% West_German + 19.9% Sardinian @ 3.46
8 72.7% Spanish_Galicia + 27.3% North_Swedish @ 3.47
9 69.1% Portuguese + 30.9% North_Swedish @ 3.55
10 72% Spanish_Galicia + 28% Swedish @ 3.73
11 68% Portuguese + 32% Swedish @ 3.75
12 71.1% Spanish_Galicia + 28.9% Norwegian @ 3.79
13 56% Spanish_Galicia + 44% West_German @ 3.79
14 52.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 47.4% West_German @ 3.8
15 67.1% Portuguese + 32.9% Norwegian @ 3.84
16 51.3% Portuguese + 48.7% West_German @ 3.86
17 66% West_Norwegian + 34% Sardinian @ 3.87
18 59.2% West_German + 40.8% Southwest_French @ 3.93
19 74.8% Spanish_Galicia + 25.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.94
20 70.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 29.4% North_Swedish @ 3.96

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 5.518334
2 Spanish_Galicia @ 8.638310
3 South_Dutch @ 9.179495
4 Spanish_Cataluna @ 9.933146
5 Portuguese @ 10.141027
6 West_German @ 10.634181
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 11.751577
8 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.471926
9 Spanish_Murcia @ 12.889953
10 Southwest_English @ 13.503959
11 Spanish_Cantabria @ 13.792345
12 East_German @ 14.129333
13 Southwest_French @ 14.960179
14 North_Italian @ 15.013505
15 Southeast_English @ 15.083499
16 Spanish_Valencia @ 15.101361
17 Austrian @ 15.651429
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 15.760002
19 North_German @ 15.830729
20 Serbian @ 16.182545

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% West_German @ 4.270527


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Sardinian +25% West_German @ 2.564724


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Danish + French + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 2.194312
2 North_Swedish + Sardinian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.289058
3 French + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 2.290191
4 Sardinian + Serbian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.331016
5 Danish + French + Sardinian + Swedish @ 2.392317
6 Orcadian + Sardinian + Serbian + West_Norwegian @ 2.434122
7 North_Swedish + Sardinian + South_Dutch + West_German @ 2.481017
8 Sardinian + South_Dutch + Swedish + West_German @ 2.481616
9 Danish + North_German + Sardinian + West_German @ 2.503473
10 French + North_Swedish + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 2.513806
11 North_Swedish + Sardinian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.515909
12 North_Swedish + Sardinian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 2.530340
13 Irish + Sardinian + Serbian + West_Norwegian @ 2.546386
14 Danish + Danish + Sardinian + West_German @ 2.564724
15 North_Swedish + Sardinian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 2.567709
16 Austrian + Orcadian + Sardinian + West_Norwegian @ 2.574692
17 French + North_Swedish + Sardinian + Southeast_English @ 2.579706
18 French + Irish + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 2.583249
19 Irish + North_Swedish + Sardinian + West_German @ 2.586109
20 Austrian + Sardinian + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian @ 2.590338




K36
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.84 Pct
Armenian 1.53 Pct
Basque 4.92 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.46 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.04 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.5 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 0.09 Pct
Fennoscandian 11.07 Pct
French 11.21 Pct
Iberian 13.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.29 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.14 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 9.49 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.39 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 6.52 Pct



G25
BerryCentralFrance,0.132035,0.14319,0.055437,0.018 088,0.048932,0.005578,0.00752,0.006692,0.013908,0. 021322,-0.005684,0.002248,-0.012636,-0.009909,0.00475,0.011403,0.009779,-0.004434,-0.002514,0.00988,0.006738,0.008656,-0.004067,0.000241,-0.003233

Ibericus
05-14-2024, 02:15 PM
Not just southern french get Spanish as their first option, I have also seen central french getting spanish, (northern spanish regions , like Catalonia)

Flashball
06-02-2024, 09:27 AM
Not just southern french get Spanish as their first option, I have also seen central french getting spanish, (northern spanish regions , like Catalonia)

Spaniard are not French and French are not Spaniard.
French don't have north africans admix and they are more beautiful and chad.

gixajo
06-02-2024, 10:26 AM
Spaniard are not French and French are not Spaniard.


Agree, also you are neither English nor German.



French don't have north africans admix and they are more beautiful and chad.

Good joke.

Ibericus
06-02-2024, 10:41 AM
Spaniard are not French and French are not Spaniard.
French don't have north africans admix and they are more beautiful and chad.
Yes of course french are not spaniards, but you have to deal with it. There is a lot of genetic overlap with south-central French, including Swiss French.
And there is also regions in Spain (besides Basques) who don't have north-african admix, or it's close to zero.

gixajo
06-02-2024, 10:42 AM
Yes of course french are not spaniards

Menos mal!!!;)