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Eurafricanid
05-13-2024, 11:03 PM
MyHeritage's CEO confirmed the Ethnicity Estimate Update for late June 2024, according to him, I'll jump from 42 to 80 Ethnicities and is going to subdivide European Ethnicities more finely than any other company, apparently (ex: Instead of Scandinavian we'll get Norwegian, Swedish and Danish).
What do you think about this?

Beowulf
05-13-2024, 11:06 PM
I literally wanted to open a thread about it too xd

gixajo
05-13-2024, 11:07 PM
MyHeritage's CEO confirmed the Ethnicity Estimate Update for late June 2024, according to him, I'll jump from 42 to 80 Ethnicities and is going to subdivide European Ethnicities more finely than any other company, apparently (ex: Instead of Scandinavian we'll get Norwegian, Swedish and Danish).
What do you think about this?

i think that if they say late June 2024 it will be in September 2025 (if we are lucky), and finally our estimates will change minimally and on top of that it will include some absurd component that we had never had before.;)

Eurafricanid
05-13-2024, 11:09 PM
i think that if they say late June 2024 it will be in September 2025 (if we are lucky), and finally our estimates will change minimally and on top of that it will include some absurd component that we had never had before.;)

Lol, but it seem actually true this time.

gixajo
05-13-2024, 11:11 PM
Lol, but it seem actually true this time.

I hope it's true.

calxpal
05-14-2024, 05:01 AM
Very exciting! =) I am also curious how accurate they'll be at distinguishing the new European ethnicities.

nittionia
05-14-2024, 04:58 PM
I wonder if they will be able to accurately separate Germany from the rest of northwestern Europe. I think 23andMe is the only company that does a good job at it right now

#Oda#
05-14-2024, 06:13 PM
Great. I'm curious if I won't have 100% England anymore then and my father 0%. :picard1:

#Oda#
05-14-2024, 06:15 PM
I wonder if they will be able to accurately separate Germany from the rest of northwestern Europe. I think 23andMe is the only company that does a good job at it right now

That's true, but LDNA isnt bad as to that as well indeed.

Beowulf
05-14-2024, 06:48 PM
this is the only photo i found about it

https://i.postimg.cc/k5fKBXTy/ethnicities-2-0-enchanced-screenshot-accurancy-plot-release-v0-4ri3ha7ucytc1.webp (https://postimages.org/)

JerryS.
05-14-2024, 07:27 PM
Good I wonder if they can clear this up? 🤣

Graham
05-14-2024, 08:07 PM
MyHeritage's CEO confirmed the Ethnicity Estimate Update for late June 2024, according to him, I'll jump from 42 to 80 Ethnicities and is going to subdivide European Ethnicities more finely than any other company, apparently (ex: Instead of Scandinavian we'll get Norwegian, Swedish and Danish).
What do you think about this?

Going by all my matches, there's tons of Scandinavians on MyHeritage. Have 327 Norwegians for example. They have plenty to play with and could have been done ages ago. But Ethnicity Estimate can be messy and all over the place for some, so i feel like it should be a tidier estimate mainly.

Kiel
05-14-2024, 08:23 PM
Going by all my matches, there's tons of Scandinavians on MyHeritage. Have 327 Norwegians for example. They have plenty to play with and could have been done ages ago. But Ethnicity Estimate can be messy and all over the place for some, so i feel like it should be a tidier estimate mainly.

My closest match on Myh is some lady from Iceland (3-4% if I remember correctly). Its fucking BS.

rothaer
05-14-2024, 11:14 PM
That's true, but LDNA isnt bad as to that as well indeed.

I get 23.9% false British Isles at LDNA and correctly 0% at 23andMe.

Jingle Bell
05-14-2024, 11:24 PM
Thank god finally a update

rothaer
05-14-2024, 11:26 PM
MyHeritage's CEO confirmed the Ethnicity Estimate Update for late June 2024, according to him, I'll jump from 42 to 80 Ethnicities and is going to subdivide European Ethnicities more finely than any other company, apparently (ex: Instead of Scandinavian we'll get Norwegian, Swedish and Danish).
What do you think about this?

It will provide even more bs as MyH is not more competent than other companies in distinguishing ancestries correctly but rather pretty much the contrary. The deception of clueless customers will increase.

MyH should first try to improve the assignment of their current components. But they know that they cannot.

#Oda#
05-15-2024, 01:40 PM
MyHeritage's CEO confirmed the Ethnicity Estimate Update for late June 2024, according to him, I'll jump from 42 to 80 Ethnicities and is going to subdivide European Ethnicities more finely than any other company, apparently (ex: Instead of Scandinavian we'll get Norwegian, Swedish and Danish).
What do you think about this?

Well, I'd be happy if they divided them roughly at least after many years. This finely thing isn't going to work anyway, I think.

#Oda#
05-15-2024, 01:52 PM
I get 23.9% false British Isles at LDNA and correctly 0% at 23andMe.

LDNA gives me only 5,9% Great Britain & Ireland now after around 90% in the beginning, plus 2% Italy and correct 92,1% NW Europe, and
23andMe 1,5% British & Irish and 21,6% Scandinavia (in the result shown by default) - rest French & German and Broadly NW Europe.
So LDNA is even better...

I really dont understand why you might have more GB than I. Because its an upload maybe?

Mortimer
05-15-2024, 01:53 PM
Looking forward

rothaer
05-15-2024, 02:28 PM
LDNA gives me only 5,9% Great Britain & Ireland now after around 90% in the beginning, plus 2% Italy and correct 92,1% NW Europe, and
23andMe 1,5% British & Irish and 21,6% Scandinavia (in the result shown by default) - rest French & German and Broadly NW Europe.
So LDNA is even better...

I really dont understand why you might have more GB than I. Because its an upload maybe?

Maybe.

But it would be odd for LDNA to tell the world a bad performance that way. I even get various subdivisions of England which to me underlines the "pseudo" character of LDNA. The wilful borders of the regions contribute to that pseudo thing.

https://i.imgur.com/EJ5g0iX.jpeg

Eurafricanid
05-15-2024, 03:21 PM
Going by all my matches, there's tons of Scandinavians on MyHeritage. Have 327 Norwegians for example. They have plenty to play with and could have been done ages ago. But Ethnicity Estimate can be messy and all over the place for some, so i feel like it should be a tidier estimate mainly.


I get 23.9% false British Isles at LDNA and correctly 0% at 23andMe.


Very exciting! =) I am also curious how accurate they'll be at distinguishing the new European ethnicities.


The CEO said that it is going to be much better in correctly pinpointing the ethnicities (recall) and the correct proportions too (pecision), he showed this graph.

Keep in mind that this is a representation of a beta and isn't using the exact ethnicies in 2.0.


https://i.imgur.com/KxvbNMM.png


https://i.imgur.com/c9FzND9.png

https://i.imgur.com/5PTL2CN.png

Eurafricanid
05-15-2024, 03:30 PM
I wonder if they will be able to accurately separate Germany from the rest of northwestern Europe. I think 23andMe is the only company that does a good job at it right now

23andMe actually doesn't divide Germany that well from Northwestern Europe, they literally lump everything in Fernch & German.
According to to what was said, MyHeritage is going to divide the current North & West European into Germany, Lowlands, France, etc. That's what I understood by what was said. I don't know how they're going to do that, though.

Eurafricanid
05-15-2024, 03:36 PM
Great. I'm curious if I won't have 100% England anymore then and my father 0%. :picard1:

They said they're going to solve that too, apparently in this graph.

https://i.imgur.com/5wweeUI.png

rothaer
05-15-2024, 03:55 PM
23andMe actually doesn't divide Germany that well from Northwestern Europe, they literally lump everything in Fernch & German.

This is true and it's not satisfactory.

On the other hand as a customer I primarily want an applicable statement.

And this is exactly what 23andMe does with their "unsexy" "Broadly" categories. I've not seen any company making more applicable statements than 23andMe.

LivingDNA impressing clueless folks by assigning 3.4% (not applicable, ofc) "Devon" to me is another strategy.

Eurafricanid
05-15-2024, 03:58 PM
this is the only photo i found about it

https://i.postimg.cc/k5fKBXTy/ethnicities-2-0-enchanced-screenshot-accurancy-plot-release-v0-4ri3ha7ucytc1.webp (https://postimages.org/)

The writings on the bottom-left image are most likely just an inferrence based on the example image given and do not align with the descriptions given by the CEO.

Eurafricanid
05-15-2024, 04:02 PM
This is true and it's not satisfactory.

On the other hand as a customer I primarily want an applicable statement.

And this is exactly what 23andMe does with their "unsexy" "Broadly" categories. I've not seen any company making more applicable statements than 23andMe.

LivingDNA impressing clueless folks by assigning 3.4% (not applicable, ofc) "Devon" to me is another strategy.

I agree with that, the unique way that 23andMe organizes it's ethnicities is genius, but the way ancestry shows how one ethnicity shifts into another with their respective overlaps is also pretty good, but not everybody understands it correctly, unfortunately.

Dušan
05-15-2024, 04:48 PM
My result was already pretty accurate. I wonder what will get after update.:)


https://i.imgur.com/UTs2p1K.png

vader
05-17-2024, 03:53 PM
Can't wait for my ethnicity report on MyHeritage to somehow get less accurate.

Jingle Bell
06-25-2024, 05:13 PM
Still waiting . . .

Beowulf
06-25-2024, 07:52 PM
I NEED this update :rage

Scandal
06-25-2024, 07:55 PM
Still waiting . . .
So am I still waiting
For this world to stop hating
Can't find a good reason
Can't find hope to believe in

https://youtu.be/Kjwlzs1OJcY?si=qCDc6NUDyI0XQhSf

Beowulf
06-25-2024, 07:57 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1do6ocq/new_myheritage_interface_theyre_preparing_the/

Let's hope that they are preparing for the update...

djipon
06-26-2024, 08:12 AM
They released this interface around a week ago. It depends how often you update your app... I think it has nothing to do with the ethnicity update.

Beowulf
06-26-2024, 03:43 PM
My current MH results before the update


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-cAi8JHZqHA

i want to post them so i can compare it here after the update



Edit: also this https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dov50r/update/#lightbox :)

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 04:11 PM
IT'S HAPPENING!!1!

https://i.postimg.cc/PJt8KFY1/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-27-181043.png (https://postimages.org/)

Holy Mary, mother of joseph!

Figaro
06-27-2024, 04:15 PM
Probably a dumb question- will those with accounts with imported raw data (23andMe in my case) see this update?

nittionia
06-27-2024, 04:15 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbWs1anJwMHg2Z2FsNnhvYXJibWxtZTd yOWM4ZDMzM256bXJ3emZqeCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/IxLeSDtUaZRmSiyCTf/giphy.webp

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 04:20 PM
Probably a dumb question- will those with accounts with imported raw data (23andMe in my case) see this update?

I think yes.

Dušan
06-27-2024, 04:20 PM
I still have the old one...

https://i.imgur.com/GUhysEm.png

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 04:22 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dpuny2/how_is_this_possible/#lightbox

This user got the update.

~Elizabeth~
06-27-2024, 05:34 PM
MyHeritage updated my Ethnicity Estimate. Gone is the Scandinavian, Greek, Irish, Italian, etc.

I am now
English 56.6%
Germanic 43.4%

https://i.postimg.cc/K8GNhC4H/My-Heritage-ethnicity-estimate-updated-2024.png



Here is my original, old one from 2023.
https://i.postimg.cc/sgF9k4XS/My-Heritage-ethnicity-results-2023.png




P.S. I ordered a kit for my Mom today. It's on sale for $39. $5 shipping.

Cybele
06-27-2024, 05:50 PM
I have my results updated too. It now shows, 100% Romanian. I don't know how to feel about this update. I'm rather disappointed. Waiting to see the results of my relatives too.

Latest update (2024):
https://i.ibb.co/qmnPpjT/rezultate-actualizate.png

Before (in the original result it also showed less than 1% North African)
https://i.ibb.co/6PyRGXw/myheritage-result.png[

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 05:56 PM
The new results look crazyyy accurate, I can't waitt!!

ScandinavianCelt
06-27-2024, 06:06 PM
Both my data sets here. My French via Canada should add in 25% French, so you could assume Swedish is 42-45% and French overall roughly 30%

https://i.postimg.cc/J4tvqdyQ/Screenshot-20240627-135359-2.png (https://postimg.cc/kB3TMsvV)

https://i.postimg.cc/vHjjSLfw/Screenshot-20240627-135456-2.png (https://postimg.cc/vcr34n00)

ScandinavianCelt
06-27-2024, 06:26 PM
MyHeritage updated my Ethnicity Estimate. Gone is the Scandinavian, Greek, Irish, Italian, etc.

I am now
English 56.6%
Germanic 43.4%

https://i.postimg.cc/K8GNhC4H/My-Heritage-ethnicity-estimate-updated-2024.png



Here is my original, old one from 2023.
https://i.postimg.cc/sgF9k4XS/My-Heritage-ethnicity-results-2023.png




P.S. I ordered a kit for my Mom today. It's on sale for $39. $5 shipping.



Seems like a ridiculous "update"-- your new admixture looks like 100% different person. Mine also. Nobody goes 9% English to 56% English. Seems like they got lazy to make proper breakdown. I know my "English" result can't exclude Scottish, Irish, and Welsh, because I have those backgrounds. Ancestry gives me 10% English and 16% Irish-Scottish-Welsh.

Balboa
06-27-2024, 06:28 PM
131149

My results before the update, seems rather inaccurate

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 06:33 PM
Seems like a ridiculous "update"-- your new admixture looks like 100% different person. Mine also. Nobody goes 9% English to 56% English. Seems like they got lazy to make proper breakdown. I know my "English" result can't exclude Scottish, Irish, and Welsh, because I have those backgrounds. Ancestry gives me 10% English and 16% Irish-Scottish-Welsh.

Bro, calm down, their last update was in 2017, and you're just picking hairs at this poing, cause i see results exactly like that in Ancestry DNA too.

Dušan
06-27-2024, 06:47 PM
I still have the old one...

https://i.imgur.com/GUhysEm.png

Updated:

https://i.imgur.com/pVzHAVu.png

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 06:48 PM
Awesome results guys!

I hope i can get mine soon :)

ScandinavianCelt
06-27-2024, 06:48 PM
Bro, calm down, their last update was in 2017, and you're just picking hairs at this poing, cause i see results exactly like that in Ancestry DNA too.

Truth be told, the update is weak and wrong, at least for me.

Dušan
06-27-2024, 06:55 PM
Updated:

https://i.imgur.com/pVzHAVu.png

All genetics groups are the same as they were. I only lost East European component, and now 100% Balkans.

https://i.imgur.com/UTs2p1K.png

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 07:29 PM
Truth be told, the update is weak and wrong, at least for me.

As I already said, I saw similar results as yours with a similar background in Ancestry DNA too, so to me they look accurate and anyways, they looks extremely accurate for other people taking the results anyway, the only difference is that in Ancestry DNA they say England and Northwestern Europe, so it has more room for fitting with France I guess.

Gergő Marosvári
06-27-2024, 07:29 PM
None of us in my family have received the update so far. I really hope we get it soon!

Luke35
06-27-2024, 07:39 PM
Overall solid and much improved.

https://i.imgur.com/SvvsFKg.jpg

Thracian
06-27-2024, 07:50 PM
Updated one.

https://i.ibb.co/0YZTRht/Screenshot-20240627-224547-My-Heritage.jpg

Jingle Bell
06-27-2024, 08:07 PM
IT'S HAPPENING!!1!

https://i.postimg.cc/PJt8KFY1/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-27-181043.png (https://postimages.org/)

Holy Mary, mother of joseph!

Its also showed to me
Lets fucking goooooo, a update after FIVE YEARS

Gergő Marosvári
06-27-2024, 08:10 PM
Overall solid and much improved.

https://i.imgur.com/SvvsFKg.jpg

The results look really good for you!!!

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 08:20 PM
I saw a spaniard on reddit who got his results, maybe that means that i'll get mine soon (let's hope so)

Jingle Bell
06-27-2024, 08:26 PM
My Old Result:
https://i.imgur.com/5bWeYNg.png
https://i.imgur.com/360RBFk.png
https://i.imgur.com/tPP0nQL.png

Dad's Old Result:
https://i.imgur.com/Qg3N6AR.png
He also have a ton of Low-Confidence Iberian groups, and one Medium from germany, England and Ireland.

djipon
06-27-2024, 08:27 PM
None of my 4 kits have updated yet.

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 08:33 PM
My Old Result:
https://i.imgur.com/5bWeYNg.png
https://i.imgur.com/360RBFk.png
https://i.imgur.com/tPP0nQL.png

Dad's Old Result:
https://i.imgur.com/Qg3N6AR.png
He also have a ton of Low-Confidence Iberian groups, and one Medium from germany, England and Ireland.

The genetic groups themselves are not updating, unfortunately, they're already pretty good though.

PaulieVanZant
06-27-2024, 08:39 PM
Took a real chunk of my non Germanic results and actually added the Netherlands proper as new genetic community:

https://i.ibb.co/hVSprsH/Screenshot-2024-06-27-22-35-05-782-org-mozilla-firefox.jpg (https://ibb.co/BB98vLj)
https://i.ibb.co/8XhQD11/Screenshot-2024-06-27-22-35-13-990-org-mozilla-firefox.jpg (https://ibb.co/b7fGgcc)

Jingle Bell
06-27-2024, 08:44 PM
The genetic groups themselves are not updating, unfortunately, they're already pretty good though.

Really? I saw some results that showed new genetic groups, but i have to agree, they have one of the best genetics groups by their price.

#Oda#
06-27-2024, 09:29 PM
I can't believe it - indeed an update.
Fun fact: Before I was 100% England.

50%
Niederländerin
1 genetische Gruppe
37,5%
Germanin
1 genetische Gruppe
12,5%
Dänin

My ancestry is ca. 85% Lower Saxon and 15% around this federal state.
"Germanin" is idiotic in this context.

gixajo
06-27-2024, 09:47 PM
IT'S HAPPENING!!1!

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Holy Mary, mother of joseph!

Nada por ahora.

Santa María madre de José???

https://i.imgur.com/4oX4SsD.png

J. Ketch
06-27-2024, 09:50 PM
I can only assume they're still using some gedmatch calculator-like algorithm (just a better one), that's the only explanation for me getting 73% Scottish & Welsh.
https://i.postimg.cc/TPhtPMt8/Screenshot-2024-06-28-063552.png

Mother's result (previously had 0% English).
https://i.postimg.cc/C1BrcT8C/Screenshot-2024-06-28-063333.png

vader
06-27-2024, 09:50 PM
Still waiting. Will post my new ones here when they come out.

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 09:52 PM
Nada por ahor.

Santa María madre de José???

https://i.imgur.com/4oX4SsD.png

Me estoy desesperando un poco ya, no creo que vaya a pegar ojo esta noche :nod:

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 09:55 PM
First Brazilian i see getting the updated results

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dq35qa/northeastern_brazilian_updated_results/

Jingle Bell
06-27-2024, 09:57 PM
First Brazilian i see getting the updated results

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dq35qa/northeastern_brazilian_updated_results/

NO WAY THEY SEPARATE PORTUGUESE FROM IBERIAN OH MY FUCKING GOD

After 5 years, im crying brooo

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 10:00 PM
First Brazilian i see getting the updated results

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dq35qa/northeastern_brazilian_updated_results/

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek:

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 10:01 PM
I can only assume they're still using some gedmatch calculator-like algorithm (just a better one), that's the only explanation for me getting 73% Scottish & Welsh.
https://i.postimg.cc/TPhtPMt8/Screenshot-2024-06-28-063552.png

Mother's result (previously had 0% English).
https://i.postimg.cc/C1BrcT8C/Screenshot-2024-06-28-063333.png

I have a lot of other explanations in my mind for that, are you really sure that's the only one yu can think of?

gixajo
06-27-2024, 10:07 PM
Me estoy desesperando un poco ya, no creo que vaya a pegar ojo esta noche :nod:

In my results coming from raw data from 23andMe it said that my results are currently being processed.

In the 4 MH saliva tests kits that I have , however, it comes the message of the image that I posted .

Will that mean that they will give me the 23andme raw data sooner?

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 10:08 PM
In my results coming from raw data from 23andMe it said that my results are currently being processed.

In the 4 MH saliva tests kits that I have , however, it comes the message of the image that I posted .

Will that mean that they will give me the 23andme raw data sooner?

No idea, honestly.

#Oda#
06-27-2024, 10:09 PM
Mother's result (previously had 0% English).
https://i.postimg.cc/C1BrcT8C/Screenshot-2024-06-28-063333.png

Other way around with me: 100% > 0%.
That at least makes sense. :thumb001:

gixajo
06-27-2024, 10:09 PM
NO WAY THEY SEPARATE PORTUGUESE FROM IBERIAN OH MY FUCKING GOD

After 5 years, im crying brooo

that could mean that we Spaniards begin to show high percentages of Portuguese in our results. :D

J. Ketch
06-27-2024, 10:10 PM
I have a lot of other explanations in my mind for that, are you really sure that's the only one yu can think of?
Yes, other than actually being 73% Scottish and/or Welsh, which I can safely discount as I have no confirmed ancestry from either.

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 10:16 PM
Yes, other than actually being 73% Scottish and/or Welsh, which I can safely discount as I have no confirmed ancestry from either.

Let me list the possibilities:
1. (Most likely) they're confusing the Irish with Scottish which happened constantly in Ancestry DNA.
2. Because you're mixed, they could've blended the Irish with the English to give you those results (just like happened in Ancestry DNA with some people)

These are some of the most likely ones I can think of.

Let's remember that 23andMe doesn't even split these populations.

calxpal
06-27-2024, 10:20 PM
I'll have to check this out and see how this turns out for my results lol. I wonder if I could possibly also get a new genetic group on MyH.

Cybele
06-27-2024, 10:22 PM
Mother: East European disappeared (probably now part of “Balkan”), also a new category of “Greek and Albanian” appeared which probably now contains the Italian, Iberian (more southern components) she had before. No genetic group is linked to this new category. Her West Asian vanished


Father: he joins the 100% Balkan club after the update. All the smaller percentages vanished


Grandmother: her “East European” survives in small percentage, which is now linked at low confidence with Hungarians in Hungary, Slovakia, Romania. She also gets a bit of “Greek and Albanian” while small percentages disappeared.

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 10:22 PM
Really? I saw some results that showed new genetic groups, but i have to agree, they have one of the best genetics groups by their price.

That's what the CEO said, no genetic groups comming with this update, but if you're seeing then, idk.

Jingle Bell
06-27-2024, 10:26 PM
That's what the CEO said, no genetic groups comming with this update, but if you're seeing then, idk.

Idk abt new genetics groups, but i saw ppl getting groups that they did not had before, check the r/Myheritage, there some examples there

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 10:33 PM
Idk abt new genetics groups, but i saw ppl getting groups that they did not had before, check the r/Myheritage, there some examples there

New big ethnicities with percentages are appearing, of course.

Kriptc06
06-27-2024, 10:43 PM
I resurrect from the dead to say it is still garbage, inflates native american for latams. if youre not latam, still, may be good

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1dpxvl9/myheritage_update_vs_23andme/


So long

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 10:47 PM
I like these new tracks

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dq4762/got_my_updated_results_must_say_im_pretty_happy/

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 11:09 PM
I resurrect from the dead to say it is still garbage, inflates native american for latams. if youre not latam, still, may be good

https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1dpxvl9/myheritage_update_vs_23andme/


So long

It's waaaay better than before though.

Abaddon
06-27-2024, 11:10 PM
NO WAY THEY SEPARATE PORTUGUESE FROM IBERIAN OH MY FUCKING GOD

After 5 years, im crying brooo

AncestryDNA did it years ago, then I'd say this is like a "acre news" coming from MyHeritage :laugh:

Jingle Bell
06-27-2024, 11:29 PM
I like these new tracks

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/comments/1dq4762/got_my_updated_results_must_say_im_pretty_happy/

The new Germanic track is amazing

Grace O'Malley
06-27-2024, 11:29 PM
Much improved for me. I've no longer any Ashkenazi.

https://i.postimg.cc/02ctCX7p/My-Heritage1-MRUpdate.png
https://i.postimg.cc/QdCfYgqv/My-Heritage2-MRUpdate.png

3 other family members are updated as well and now all have only Irish with a smaller amount of Scottish and Welsh. So update is good for us.

Zagrosian
06-27-2024, 11:32 PM
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Still inferior to Dodecad, Eurogenes, Harappaworld, MLDP and Gedrosia calculators.
But I guess it's less crap now. The previous one found "Irish", "South Asian" and whatnot.

Not sure why I ended up in the Iraqi group since I'm from Iran and no result from any calculator show even the slightest hint of Arab admixture.
Then again, Iraqi Arab results typically show significant Kurdish and Persian-like admixture.

Also, 19.7% Armenian?
I have a very typical central Kurdish result in other calculators. No shift toward Armenia or East Anatolia.

Kriptc06
06-27-2024, 11:34 PM
It's waaaay better than before though.

Maybe if you have low or no native american ancestry, but for majority of latams it will still be off, I'm not making a new acc and pay money to see something I know will be wrong. I deleted all my data from MH after they had a huge data leak many years ago;

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 11:35 PM
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Still inferior to Dodecad, Eurogenes, Harappaworld, MLDP and Gedrosia calculators.
But I guess it's less crap now. The previous one found "Irish", "South Asian" and whatnot.

Not sure why I ended up in the Iraqi group since I'm from Iran and no result from any calculator show even the slightest hint of Arab admixture.
Then again, Iraqi Arab results typically show significant Kurdish and Persian-like admixture.

Also, 19.7% Armenian?
I have a very typical central Kurdish result in other calculators. No shift toward Armenia or East Anatolia.

Looks extremely accurate from what I can see.

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 11:36 PM
I've seen some African results and they seem inaccurate, a high amount of Nigerian and Portuguese instead of northwest Europe for many.

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 11:40 PM
Maybe if you have low or no native american ancestry, but for majority of latams it will still be off, I'm not making a new acc and pay money to see something I know will be wrong. I deleted all my data from MH after they had a huge data leak many years ago;

Ok, you can double down on your deleted data and reafirm yourself, but what I'm seeing seems to indicate fairly accurate results.

Kriptc06
06-27-2024, 11:43 PM
Ok, you can double down on your deleted data and reafirm yourself, but what I'm seeing seems to indicate fairly accurate results.

accurate? you just said yourself african results looks off, and latams

for me its either accurate, or it isn't, no middle ground

I stay with my people, for latam, it is garbage

Eurafricanid
06-27-2024, 11:45 PM
accurate? you just said yourself african results looks off, and latams

for me its either accurate, is or it isn't, no middle ground

I stay with my people, for latam, it is garbage

Ok, you can think of it without any nuance, that's Ok, you're not getting the update anyways.

gixajo
06-27-2024, 11:47 PM
I resurrect from the dead to say it is still garbage, inflates native american for latams. if youre not latam, still, may be good

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So long

So now Iberian is divided in" Portuguese" or "Spanish, Catalan, and Basque” ?

Beowulf
06-27-2024, 11:49 PM
So now Iberian is divided in" Portuguese" or "Spanish, Catalan, and Basque” ?

Yes and the portuguese track is a bit funny.

Kriptc06
06-27-2024, 11:51 PM
So now Iberian is divided in" Portuguese" or "Spanish, Catalan, and Basque” ?

yeah, and I have no opinion on the accuracy of those, I just think the naming in this case is odd, Spanish, Catalan, and Basque

Spanish what ? where?

Could just have rolled with "Spanish"

Mortimer
06-27-2024, 11:53 PM
I get this message

Ihre Ergebnisse
BALD VERFÜGBAR
Neue verbesserte Ethnizitätsschätzung
Schauen Sie bald wieder vorbei, um Ihre aktualisierten Ergebnisse abzurufen!

your results
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Check back soon for your updated results!

gixajo
06-28-2024, 12:28 AM
yeah, and I have no opinion on the accuracy of those, I just think the naming in this case is odd, Spanish, Catalan, and Basque

Spanish what ? where?

Could just have rolled with "Spanish"

Some Basques and Catalans might feel offended if they are simply called "Spanish.";)

Figaro
06-28-2024, 12:33 AM
Some Basques and Catalans might feel offended if they are simply called "Spanish.";)

It’s all so bizarre. If we know better about this shit, you would think they would as well..

gixajo
06-28-2024, 12:35 AM
Yes and the portuguese track is a bit funny.

23andMe already timidly dared to separate the Portuguese from the Spanish ancestry, at least i remember in my results something like: "there are no traces of Portuguese ancestry".

In cases of people with Galician, Extremaduran, Castilian-Leonese, Western Andalusian ancestors, etc., it is difficult to separate them...:noidea:

Abaddon
06-28-2024, 12:35 AM
Some Basques and Catalans might feel offended if they are simply called "Spanish.";)

Same for Venetians, Tyrolese, Aostans and Sicilians being called simply "Italians".

gixajo
06-28-2024, 12:48 AM
Same for Venetians, Tyrolese, Aostans and Sicilians being called simply "Italians".

Let's see what they do with the Jews, Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrian Jordanians, etc...and with the Greeks and Turks...Will they also separate the Ukrainians from the Russians? And the French who came out half German/British and Spanish/Italian?...Will they finally be 100% French?

And the Spaniards who scored North African? What will happen to the Canary Islands? Will those from the Azores islands be 100% Portuguese like in 23andMe?

and the Hungarians?

The Serbs no longer score Albania, but rather "Greece and Albania" which seems less serious...:D

gixajo
06-28-2024, 12:55 AM
It’s all so bizarre. If we know better about this shit, you would think they would as well..

In the end, in order not to hurt sensitivities, they will give us the option to call each percentage of our results whatever each client wants.

RichmonBread for example, will be able to rename his 5% Ashkenazi Jew...Scandinavian.

JamesBond007 can finally be a 100% English ...or 100% Scottish depending on the mood with which he wakes up each day...

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 12:59 AM
Let's see what they do with the Jews, Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrian Jordanians, etc...and with the Greeks and Turks...Will they also separate the Ukrainians from the Russians? And the French who came out half German/British and Spanish/Italian?...Will they finally be 100% French?

And the Spaniards who scored North African? What will happen to the Canary Islands? Will those from the Azores islands be 100% Portuguese like in 23andMe?

and the Hungarians?

The Serbs no longer score Albania, but rather "Greece and Albania" which seems less serious...:D

From what I've seen they're going to be very granular with the jews, it's around 13 Jewish ethnicities.

RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 01:07 AM
I predict my Scandinavian will be lumped with Scottish, my African lumped with Southern European with trace Baltic and African.

That or I am entirely English.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 01:10 AM
I'm curious to see if they're going to give me Portuguese or Spanish and also how they're going to separate my three ethnicities.

gixajo
06-28-2024, 01:15 AM
I predict my Scandinavian will be lumped with Scottish, my African lumped with Southern European with trace Baltic and African.

I cross my fingers that my results say that I am finally Slav as fuck.:D

Random Balkanite it's ok too.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 01:28 AM
Brazilian Gaucho results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/d64jlusIVH

She said she 1/2 North Italian, 3/8 Gaucha, 1/8 Portuguese and Galician
Looking very good imo

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 02:12 AM
Brazilian Gaucho results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/d64jlusIVH

She said she 1/2 North Italian, 3/8 Gaucha, 1/8 Portuguese and Galician
Looking very good imo

Interesting that there's no Spanish in any Brazilian's results so far.

RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 02:55 AM
Let's see what they do with the Jews, Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrian Jordanians, etc...and with the Greeks and Turks...Will they also separate the Ukrainians from the Russians? And the French who came out half German/British and Spanish/Italian?...Will they finally be 100% French?

And the Spaniards who scored North African? What will happen to the Canary Islands? Will those from the Azores islands be 100% Portuguese like in 23andMe?

and the Hungarians?

The Serbs no longer score Albania, but rather "Greece and Albania" which seems less serious...:D

My DNA sample isn't updated yet, but here's my upload from AncestryDNA kit. I can't say I'm shocked, modeling myself with G25 I get almost entirely english despite drifted distance and most ethnic English people showing totally different results from me. I'll see what the actual sample I sent them says.
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calxpal
06-28-2024, 03:57 AM
I got the results for 2/5 of my kits on MyH, very sadly not my own yet though, I will not post the results until I get the update as well but I have positive and negative feelings about the update. I am hoping to see at least somewhat accurate specifics on mine or new groups :). Some of my kits results got worse imo, some got better, I think the accuracy is about the same as before. If anyone has predictions for me let me know =).

Coastal Elite
06-28-2024, 05:33 AM
Update

https://i.imgur.com/rL3hM4R.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/hSGFwXh.jpeg

Mortimer
06-28-2024, 05:37 AM
Update

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Seems quite accurate, what you think?

Coastal Elite
06-28-2024, 05:42 AM
Seems quite accurate, what you think?

Yes, much better than previous results from them which included weird things Baltic and Southern Italian ancestry.

RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 06:10 AM
Updated. Curious as to what my 7.4% North and West African magically gets grouped with considering I only get Northern European groups now. All in all better but I'm totally lost as to how this update decides to lump some admix together into other ethnicities.
https://i.imgur.com/aiiWjJb.jpeg

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 08:39 AM
Updated. Curious as to what my 7.4% North and West African magically gets grouped with considering I only get Northern European groups now. All in all better but I'm totally lost as to how this update decides to lump some admix together into other ethnicities.
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Interesting, so you have African in other companies but no African on MH?

vlrs-2
06-28-2024, 09:00 AM
100% Balkan.

Gergő Marosvári
06-28-2024, 09:16 AM
OK, that's a DAMN HUGE CHANGE!!! :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/zGmcMskB/k-p.png

djipon
06-28-2024, 10:09 AM
Are your test from 2018, guys? People on reddit are saying they are currently updating only 2018 tests.

Gergő Marosvári
06-28-2024, 10:18 AM
Are your test from 2018, guys? People on reddit are saying they are currently updating only 2018 tests.

Only my MH "saliva test" has been updated so far, which I took back in 2019 December.

djipon
06-28-2024, 10:22 AM
Yeah, so they are still on 2018/19 on updating. It could take a few days, in my opinion.

~Elizabeth~
06-28-2024, 10:27 AM
Are your test from 2018, guys? People on reddit are saying they are currently updating only 2018 tests.

I tested last year, in 2023, and have been updated.

Albannach
06-28-2024, 11:11 AM
Can't say the new update is any more accurate than my previous result, but MyHeritage are not alone in being unable to separate my Scottish from Irish, it's also strange that Scottish and Welsh are lumped together when the populations are not particularly close, Scottish and Irish together would have made more sense as evidently they struggle tell them apart.

https://i.imgur.com/0Ttmn7j.png

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 11:20 AM
Im still waiting, honestly im a bit afraid that my Results could end Up as inaccurate i heard in reddit that people with a more mixed background are getting weird Results.

But let's see It.

Would be funny if i end Up as 100% spanish lmao although It wouldn't be correct at all

ScandinavianCelt
06-28-2024, 11:28 AM
Only my MH "saliva test" has been updated so far, which I took back in 2019 December.

I never took their saliva test but my uploaded kits were updated. I don't see how their results for me can be accurate. It's sad, really.

gixajo
06-28-2024, 11:34 AM
gixajo updated results (Asturias??? I have not any ancestry from Asturias...)

https://i.imgur.com/0AZcNIF.png

Old results.
https://i.imgur.com/aDFgeNi.png

gixajo dad updated results

https://i.imgur.com/Wg1QgIi.png

Old results.
https://i.imgur.com/ZlZg2jv.png

gixajo mom updated results( She does not have levels of reliability and continues without having them.)

https://i.imgur.com/dzqfedw.png

Old results.
https://i.imgur.com/p5Ag3Pi.png

gixajo enana updated results

Still updating, but we can guess she will score 100% "Spanish, Basque and catalan".:coffee:

Old results.
https://i.imgur.com/ZO3jTaw.png

gixajo
06-28-2024, 11:50 AM
Im still waiting, honestly im a bit afraid that my Results could end Up as inaccurate i heard in reddit that people with a more mixed background are getting weird Results.

But let's see It.

Would be funny if i end Up as 100% spanish lmao although It wouldn't be correct at all

Voy a atreverme a predecir tus resultados: 90.5% ""Espańol, vasco y catalán" y 9.5% escandinavo. :rolleyes:

RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 11:53 AM
Interesting, so you have African in other companies but no African on MH?

This was my last result. My confusion is if your result is all up to the model and reference populations they use, where does certain admix go when it dissappears all together, Its not like any northern european group is African admixed, so that's where my confusion lies in such an extreme change.
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RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 11:56 AM
OK, that's a DAMN HUGE CHANGE!!! :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/zGmcMskB/k-p.png

Yes, some of these changes are scratching my head. I can see how in some cases people's results change because some populations are so similar they are interchanged. But where does the admix go when the last result showed totally different populations.

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 11:56 AM
Voy a atreverme a predecir tus resultados: 90.5% ""Espańol, vasco y catalán" y 9.5% escandinavo. :rolleyes:

Capaz de que salga algo asi LoL

vader
06-28-2024, 12:05 PM
New result:

https://i.imgur.com/pi7l1rT.jpeg

Old result:

https://i.imgur.com/SpTgs2y.png

djipon
06-28-2024, 12:09 PM
Im still waiting, honestly im a bit afraid that my Results could end Up as inaccurate i heard in reddit that people with a more mixed background are getting weird Results.

But let's see It.

Would be funny if i end Up as 100% spanish lmao although It wouldn't be correct at all

I'm expecting to be 100% Balkan, as most updated results of people from the Balkans I've seen so far 😆

RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 12:19 PM
It seems this was a huge improvement for continental Europeans of a single ethnicity, while a mixed bag for people with several ethnicities. It feels like it reveals less about your admixture, which its still having trouble with considering now 100% Hungarian and 100% Russian will have the similar if not the same results despite having totally different admixture.

OrhanU
06-28-2024, 12:45 PM
I had west asian %20 before, rest was Greek, southeast europe; now it has been updated to Greek & Albanian %60 and Balkan %40

Kostek
06-28-2024, 12:48 PM
From what I've seen, MyHeritage basically did 2x ADC on everyones results ;)

RyoHazuki
06-28-2024, 12:50 PM
From what I've seen, MyHeritage basically did 2x ADC on everyones results ;)

That's the BEST way I heard it phrased XD

ScandinavianCelt
06-28-2024, 12:55 PM
If I add just the 4 ethnicities MH gives me on G25 Modern Scaled (Swedish, English, French, Norwegian), I get this very different result:


Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.0497% / 0.01049727
62.6 Swedish
16.0 French_Brittany
11.0 French_Provence
4.2 English
3.2 Norwegian
2.2 French_Auvergne
0.8 French_Occitanie


Clearly I need to add in Scotland-Wales-Ireland-Shetland and lets see what happens:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.8620% / 0.00862037
48.4 Swedish
31.0 Irish
11.6 French_Provence
7.6 Scottish
1.4 French_Auvergne

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.9348% / 0.00934769 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.8 Swedish
23.2 Irish
17.2 Scottish
10.8 French_Nord
2.0 English

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.0323% / 0.01032257 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.2 Swedish
23.4 Scottish
13.0 Irish
8.8 English
5.6 French_Occitanie

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.0970% / 0.01096960 | ADC: 1x RC
54.2 Swedish
32.4 Scottish
13.4 English

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.2141% / 0.01214079 | ADC: 2x RC
63.0 Swedish
37.0 Scottish

Grace O'Malley
06-28-2024, 12:57 PM
This was my last result. My confusion is if your result is all up to the model and reference populations they use, where does certain admix go when it dissappears all together, Its not like any northern european group is African admixed, so that's where my confusion lies in such an extreme change.
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It's because they don't have the correct references or they have too broad a reference for some populations so the algorithm will compensate by giving people some strange ethnicities that they don't have. With the correct references this shouldn't happen. From the results so far MyHeritage seems pretty good with single ethnicities but with more mixes there might be some problems. Also there will always be some populations that are confused with each other because of close overlap.

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 01:09 PM
I only got my dad's results, it's a shame he didn't get his north italian or French but i guess it's hard since both populations are close to Iberians too

https://i.postimg.cc/wTHh4cSj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-28-150810.png (https://postimages.org/)


his old results:

https://i.postimg.cc/25vyfgWR/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-28-151455.png (https://postimages.org/)

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 01:23 PM
This was my last result. My confusion is if your result is all up to the model and reference populations they use, where does certain admix go when it dissappears all together, Its not like any northern european group is African admixed, so that's where my confusion lies in such an extreme change.
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If you don't have other companies to compare with, I can say that the African in MyHeritage was very inaccurate and random before, I have a whole youtube Playlist named "The "Nigerians"" filled with inaccurate African inclusions.

Luke35
06-28-2024, 01:28 PM
My mother's update just came in, she got an improved result as well:

https://i.imgur.com/Dn5Pqzk.jpg

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 01:58 PM
I only got my dad's results, it's a shame he didn't get his north italian or French but i guess it's hard since both populations are close to Iberians too

https://i.postimg.cc/wTHh4cSj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-28-150810.png (https://postimages.org/)


his old results:

https://i.postimg.cc/25vyfgWR/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-28-151455.png (https://postimages.org/)

How Italian and French was he?

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 02:02 PM
How Italian and French was he?

He is 1/8 Genovese and 1/16 Occitanian

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 02:18 PM
New result:

https://i.imgur.com/pi7l1rT.jpeg

Old result:

https://i.imgur.com/SpTgs2y.png

Damn, they are not confusing Portuguese & Spanish ancestry
I have to admit at least for Iberians this looks in Ancestry/23andme level of accuracy

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 02:22 PM
I only got my dad's results, it's a shame he didn't get his north italian or French but i guess it's hard since both populations are close to Iberians too

https://i.postimg.cc/wTHh4cSj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-28-150810.png (https://postimages.org/)


his old results:

https://i.postimg.cc/25vyfgWR/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-28-151455.png (https://postimages.org/)

Where is his French side from? The Spanish categorie seens also to include Southern/Central French and even NW Italy to what i saw in r/Myheritage

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 02:25 PM
Where is his French side from? The Spanish categorie seens also to include Southern/Central French and even NW Italy to what i saw in r/Myheritage

Mainly Occitanian tho and distant Breton but irrelevant in a genetic level.

vader
06-28-2024, 02:28 PM
Damn, they are not confusing Portuguese & Spanish ancestryy
I have to admit at least for Iberians this looks in Ancestry/23andme level of accuracy

Yes very accurate for me. I think it may over exaggerate the 100% as on other tests I get tiny smidges of nafri and ssa. Also, ancestrydna gives me about 16% Spanish so all tests have some differences. But overall it looks like on my heritage the threshold for allowing those to appear is lower, and taking into account individual variability I think its a good methodology for more homogenous folks who are close enough to whatever reference pop. is being used.

MandM
06-28-2024, 02:28 PM
this makes more sense than the cocktail i had before

https://i.ibb.co/Sdmttjf/Screenshot-20240628-162715-My-Heritage.jpg (https://ibb.co/vQd33FX)

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 02:51 PM
Yes very accurate for me. I think it may over exaggerate the 100% as on other tests I get tiny smidges of nafri and ssa. Also, ancestrydna gives me about 16% Spanish so all tests have some differences. But overall it looks like on my heritage the threshold for allowing those to appear is lower, and taking into account individual variability I think its a good methodology for more homogenous folks who are close enough to whatever reference pop. is being used.

Yeah, they seen to eliminate small %, and rise even more the dominants ones, i alr saw some Brazilians that are actually 80% Iberian scoring 90%+ Portuguese, and some latinos that are like 60% Indigenous scoring even up to 100%, as other member previuosly said, almost look like theyvare using ADC 2x, which works fine in Monoethnical persons, but can be kinda messy with Mixed (Like iberoamericans) or ppl from transitional areas (Like a Austrian scoring 90% Germanic and other 80% Balkanic).

vader
06-28-2024, 02:58 PM
Yeah, they seen to eliminate small %, and rise even more the dominants ones, i alr saw some Brazilians that are actually 80% Iberian scoring 90%+ Portuguese, and some latinos that are like 60% Indigenous scoring even up to 100%, as other member previuosly said, almost look like theyvare using ADC 2x, which works fine in Monoethnical persons, but can be kinda messy with Mixed (Like iberoamericans) or ppl from transitional areas (Like a Austrian scoring 90% Germanic and other 80% Balkanic).

I can't complain! I quite like that they lowered the threshold in this case as individual variability is interesting but it can also pose some oddities. For example, on 23andMe it gives me some odd traces that my siblings and other family members do not get - Cypriot, Central Asian. If we align all the tests I've taken, it now seem to paint a better picture of one's ancestry and people's slight individual differences being less dissected on the basis of tiny differences. Which works better in homogenous countries imo. MyHeritage also has far more references to work with actually, so this may take the cake for certain ethnicities.

Like you said, for more mixed folks it can be much more questionable though. Clearly their references are still a bit choppy, and in continuum seem to lack enough power in splitting specific ancestries.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 03:01 PM
Yeah, they seen to eliminate small %, and rise even more the dominants ones, i alr saw some Brazilians that are actually 80% Iberian scoring 90%+ Portuguese, and some latinos that are like 60% Indigenous scoring even up to 100%, as other member previuosly said, almost look like theyvare using ADC 2x, which works fine in Monoethnical persons, but can be kinda messy with Mixed (Like iberoamericans) or ppl from transitional areas (Like a Austrian scoring 90% Germanic and other 80% Balkanic).

Interesting... I wonder if they can make the threshold a bit lower easier, so mixed people get more consistent results.

eastern
06-28-2024, 03:41 PM
Still nothing. Did any other European nationals get their results already?

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 03:52 PM
Just got my updated results (1/3), looks fairly accurate, but kinda lacking too.

https://i.imgur.com/vurSVWP.jpg


Old:

https://i.imgur.com/qQWQCDw.jpg

MandM
06-28-2024, 03:54 PM
Yeah, they seen to eliminate small %, and rise even more the dominants ones, i alr saw some Brazilians that are actually 80% Iberian scoring 90%+ Portuguese, and some latinos that are like 60% Indigenous scoring even up to 100%, as other member previuosly said, almost look like theyvare using ADC 2x, which works fine in Monoethnical persons, but can be kinda messy with Mixed (Like iberoamericans) or ppl from transitional areas (Like a Austrian scoring 90% Germanic and other 80% Balkanic).

Could be so for many, but i hade only 32.5% Balkan on my real myheritage test and 35.2 East europe and like 32 greek South italy, but now its all Balkan and that makes more sense on me, that dont have no ancestry from East europe or Greece

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 04:06 PM
Just got my updated results (1/3), looks fairly accurate, but kinda lacking too.

https://i.imgur.com/vurSVWP.jpg


Old:

https://i.imgur.com/qQWQCDw.jpg

Dammmmmn, ur looks good, but seens that ur MENA is begin absoved in SSA, also ur Native

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 04:07 PM
Why mine is taking so long XD

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 04:10 PM
Dammmmmn, ur looks good, but seens that ur MENA is begin absoved in SSA, also ur Native

Yeah also I've come to realize that the African is always slightly higher than expected for all African results, and the Portuguese music is :flamenco::flamenco::flamenco::tango::muslim::musl im::taliban:

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 04:12 PM
Why mine is taking so long XD

These were the genera results I got in 2019, my actual MyHeritage results and my FTDNA results are not done yet.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 04:24 PM
These were the genera results I got in 2019, my actual MyHeritage results and my FTDNA results are not done yet.

Mine is from 2023, dad's is from 2024, im cooked ��

hazmatnik
06-28-2024, 04:30 PM
Got update for myself and part of family.

My new estimate

https://i.postimg.cc/c1mMdDBV/Screenshot-20240628-112858-My-Heritage.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Sjnzrf5r)

vader
06-28-2024, 04:31 PM
Yeah also I've come to realize that the African is always slightly higher than expected for all African results, and the Portuguese music is :flamenco::flamenco::flamenco::tango::muslim::musl im::taliban:

Def. an interesting choice of Fado music. Coulda been bagpipes too, shoulda done a combo of both.

Abriekman
06-28-2024, 04:36 PM
I read there is half Flemish, half Serbian guy who is now 85% Balkan, lol

There is also half Swede, half Serb that now has 76% Balkan

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 04:43 PM
Def. an interesting choice of Fado music. Coulda been bagpipes too, shoulda done a combo of both.

Especially because it's clearly more of a Galician-Portuguese group (which would've been the perfect name for it, btw) they could've done more of a drum & bagpipes with a cavaco or/and an achordion even, but whatever.

vader
06-28-2024, 04:48 PM
Especially because it's clearly more of a Galician-Portuguese group (which would've been the perfect name for it, btw) they could've done more of a drum & bagpipes with a cavaco or/and an achordion even, but whatever.

Seeing some other results it seems to me that "Portuguese" encompasses far more areas similar to what we know from PCA's and G25 genetic closeness. Extramadurans, Galicians, NW leon, and Huelva people all will get substantial amounts of Portuguese. Also Canarians get loads of Portuguese with this new update as well, getting a region underneath the Portuguese called something like "Spanish Canary Islands". So def. some odd labeling, it should be something like Galician-Portuguese, Western Iberia, and Islands", but it isn't terrible if you have a grasp at the relationships between all those regions. I predict a galician will get roughly anywhere from 40%-100% Portuguese now - depending how castillianized vs galego they are.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 04:50 PM
I JUST REALIZED THAT THE PORTUGUESE MUSIC IS ACTUALLY SANG BY A SPANISH SPEAKER (probably LATAM too), NOW I'M PISSED!!!

She literally says brillo there.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 04:54 PM
Seeing some other results it seems to me that "Portuguese" encompasses far more areas similar to what we know from PCA's and G25 genetic closeness. Extramadurans, Galicians, NW leon, and Huelva people all will get substantial amounts of Portuguese. Also Canarians get loads of Portuguese with this new update as well, getting a region underneath the Portuguese called something like "Spanish Canary Islands". So def. some odd labeling, it should be something like Galician-Portuguese, Western Iberia, and Islands", but it isn't terrible if you have a grasp at the relationships between all those regions. I predict a galician will get roughly anywhere from 40%-100% Portuguese now - depending how castillianized vs galego they are.

I don't think it's possible to separate Portuguese from neighboring western iberians, also the Canarias were settled by many western iberians.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 04:58 PM
A few examples to what i said

MyHeritage still uses Mestizo samples labeled as "Indigenous", so most Mestizos are nearly 100% "Indigenous", so most Latinos will have messy results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/BQJrduHf0z
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/31wsnR5FmV


They are having problem with mixed ppl, that guy is 50% South Italian, 50% Welsh, and for some reason he just scores 25% Brit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/RUGhLfkecb

If u arent 50/50, or dont have a a "Dominant" ancestry, the biggest part will prob absorve the minor one, like this girl begin half Lebanese and scoring 15% Egyptian, her son is 1/4, and dont even score MENA:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/TViFBkcki5

Again, the dominant side absorving the minors one, he is just 80% Iberian, but scores up to 95%, its like they are using a super conservative model:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/Pfcd9cq4KV

For some reason the "Portuguese" categorie is bugged, and almost all Afro-Americans are scoring Portuguese and also a TON of Nigerian (80%, even persons that are just 60% SSA):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/5g0sr1tbRT
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/mchvQOa99b
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/Ugl7fAygVo
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/h9Opso8T7w

But the update works the best if you are:
* Pure Iberian
*Balkanic
*British (But they confusing Scotish with English a bit, also Irish with Scot but thats ok)
*North African
*Scandinavian (But they tend to confuse Norway with Deenmark and English a bit)
* Full Indigenous
* South Italian
* Turkish and West Asian

Work the worst with:
*Persons with more than 2 Ancestry, especially if they are similar, like Welsh + Italian
*Persons who dont are 50/50 split
* Mestizos (Prob the most fucked up in this update)
* Aframs
* Castizos/Quadroons (U will be almost full European)

For the majority of resulst, thats it i think.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 05:01 PM
Seeing some other results it seems to me that "Portuguese" encompasses far more areas similar to what we know from PCA's and G25 genetic closeness. Extramadurans, Galicians, NW leon, and Huelva people all will get substantial amounts of Portuguese. Also Canarians get loads of Portuguese with this new update as well, getting a region underneath the Portuguese called something like "Spanish Canary Islands". So def. some odd labeling, it should be something like Galician-Portuguese, Western Iberia, and Islands", but it isn't terrible if you have a grasp at the relationships between all those regions. I predict a galician will get roughly anywhere from 40%-100% Portuguese now - depending how castillianized vs galego they are.

I alr saw a girl with Galician ancestry, he just scored Portuguese, also a Spaniard from Extremadura, scored 30%

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 05:07 PM
A few examples to what i said

MyHeritage still uses Mestizo samples labeled as "Indigenous", so most Mestizos are nearly 100% "Indigenous", so most Latinos will have messy results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/BQJrduHf0z
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/31wsnR5FmV


They are having problem with mixed ppl, that guy is 50% South Italian, 50% Welsh, and for some reason he just scores 25% Brit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/RUGhLfkecb

If u arent 50/50, or dont have a a "Dominant" ancestry, the biggest part will prob absorve the minor one, like this girl begin half Lebanese and scoring 15% Egyptian, her son is 1/4, and dont even score MENA:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/TViFBkcki5

Again, the dominant side absorving the minors one, he is just 80% Iberian, but scores up to 95%, its like they are using a super conservative model:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/Pfcd9cq4KV

For some reason the "Portuguese" categorie is bugged, and almost all Afro-Americans are scoring Portuguese and also a TON of Nigerian (80%, even persons that are just 60% SSA):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/5g0sr1tbRT
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/mchvQOa99b
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/Ugl7fAygVo
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/h9Opso8T7w

But the update works the best if you are:
* Pure Iberian
*Balkanic
*British (But they confusing Scotish with English a bit, also Irish with Scot but thats ok)
*North African
*Scandinavian (But they tend to confuse Norway with Deenmark and English a bit)
* Full Indigenous
* South Italian
* Turkish and West Asian

Work the worst with:
*Persons with more than 2 Ancestry, especially if they are similar, like Welsh + Italian
*Persons who dont are 50/50 split
* Mestizos (Prob the most fucked up in this update)
* Aframs
* Castizos/Quadroons (U will be almost full European)

For the majority of resulst, thats it i think.

I think they might be using Brazilians and cape-verdeans to calibrate their African-admixed results, because they do more tests with MH.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 05:10 PM
A few examples to what i said

MyHeritage still uses Mestizo samples labeled as "Indigenous", so most Mestizos are nearly 100% "Indigenous", so most Latinos will have messy results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/BQJrduHf0z
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/31wsnR5FmV


They are having problem with mixed ppl, that guy is 50% South Italian, 50% Welsh, and for some reason he just scores 25% Brit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/RUGhLfkecb

If u arent 50/50, or dont have a a "Dominant" ancestry, the biggest part will prob absorve the minor one, like this girl begin half Lebanese and scoring 15% Egyptian, her son is 1/4, and dont even score MENA:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/TViFBkcki5

Again, the dominant side absorving the minors one, he is just 80% Iberian, but scores up to 95%, its like they are using a super conservative model:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/Pfcd9cq4KV

For some reason the "Portuguese" categorie is bugged, and almost all Afro-Americans are scoring Portuguese and also a TON of Nigerian (80%, even persons that are just 60% SSA):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/5g0sr1tbRT
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/mchvQOa99b
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/Ugl7fAygVo
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/h9Opso8T7w

But the update works the best if you are:
* Pure Iberian
*Balkanic
*British (But they confusing Scotish with English a bit, also Irish with Scot but thats ok)
*North African
*Scandinavian (But they tend to confuse Norway with Deenmark and English a bit)
* Full Indigenous
* South Italian
* Turkish and West Asian

Work the worst with:
*Persons with more than 2 Ancestry, especially if they are similar, like Welsh + Italian
*Persons who dont are 50/50 split
* Mestizos (Prob the most fucked up in this update)
* Aframs
* Castizos/Quadroons (U will be almost full European)

For the majority of resulst, thats it i think.

It's also very interesting that I got more Central African than Nigerian (actually Costa da Mina), which is the opposite of the Aframs.

Gergő Marosvári
06-28-2024, 05:11 PM
My mother's updated results! :eek: Well, she got a "long list". :D
https://i.postimg.cc/26vnyMf3/449437198-7779305428830213-3493452159639821008-n.jpg

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 05:20 PM
It's also very interesting that I got more Central African than Nigerian (actually Costa da Mina), which is the opposite of the Aframs.

The Central Africa categorie also includes part of Western Africa
The Central Africa, Nigerian, West Africa also overlap a lot, i think they should just put: Niger-Congolese, Western Bantu, Eastern, Honer, North Africa, Khoisa, Nilotic & Pigmy, esses já săo suficientes.

Luke35
06-28-2024, 05:41 PM
...Again, the dominant side absorving the minors one, he is just 80% Iberian, but scores up to 95...
It seems that MH has now joined the club, utilizing some smoothing -- just as 23andMe and Ancestry do. I think that perhaps they tuned their smoother to be a touch too aggressive now. Also, parental phasing could perhaps correct some of these issues where people are getting uneven splits when they really should be about even. They must be employing some kind of statistical phasing, or they probably would not have accurately split my estimate, as they
did. Still, parental phasing would theoretically be better and correct some errors, for mixed folks.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 05:44 PM
It seems that MH has now joined the club, utilizing some smoothing, just as 23andMe and Ancestry do as well. Perhaps they tuned their smoother to be a touch too aggressive now. Also, parental phasing could perhaps correct some of these issues where people are getting uneven splits when they really should be about even. They must be employing some kind of statistical phasing now, or they probably would not have accurately split my estimate, as they
did. Still, parental phasing would theoretically be better and correct some errors, for mixed folks.

Yeah i agree, but also dont works for persons with multigenerational mixing like in Latam, but for a first generation mix it will prob works fine, also its also happen to mixed ppl get good results, some examples even in that thread.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 05:56 PM
The Central Africa categorie also includes part of Western Africa
The Central Africa, Nigerian, West Africa also overlap a lot, i think they should just put: Niger-Congolese, Western Bantu, Eastern, Honer, North Africa, Khoisa, Nilotic & Pigmy, esses já săo suficientes.

Yes, exactly, but their regions on the map are good, it's just the naming that's off, the "Nigeria" is the Costa da Mina from Genera and the Central African is the Cameroon Congo and Western Bantu peoples from ancestry, for the most part, and they do not have a good database in Africa due to the obvious lack of samples.

Although they do have Sudanese, Ethiopia & Eritrea and also Somalia.

And also West African, which is just Mali + Senegambia.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 06:21 PM
I hope they see the problems that are happening and update it sooner, because overall it does seem like a very good update, when we're talking about monoethnic people, so the recall is very good.

PaulieVanZant
06-28-2024, 06:28 PM
My ma`s updated MH:

https://i.ibb.co/zrJ9yxS/Mother1.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/8BxNqWp/Mother2.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 06:52 PM
My ma`s updated MH:

https://i.ibb.co/zrJ9yxS/Mother1.png (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/8BxNqWp/Mother2.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Honorable Iberian ;)

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 07:24 PM
Most Brazilians seem to have accurate results too, it seems that the major problem with LATAMs is the mestizo situation.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 07:45 PM
I hope they see the problems that are happening and update it sooner, because overall it does seem like a very good update, when we're talking about monoethnic people, so the recall is very good.

For mixed ppl they do not are that good, especially if u have more than 20% Amerindian, but for monoethnic persons, they become one of the best company rn (They are relatively cheap, and pretty solid).

Gallop
06-28-2024, 08:00 PM
My complete update

https://i.postimg.cc/m2gMxg9j/MAPAActualizado2024-My-Heritage-M-os.png

eastern
06-28-2024, 08:02 PM
Who else is still waiting :bored:

Figaro
06-28-2024, 08:03 PM
Who else is still waiting :bored:

Still waiting here. I’m sure the update will come quite soon.

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 08:05 PM
Who else is still waiting :bored:

Me...

djipon
06-28-2024, 08:07 PM
I'm waiting, too. More than 24 hours now ��

Gallop
06-28-2024, 08:16 PM
Right now they are giving it to all Spaniards.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 08:23 PM
Who else is still waiting :bored:

They are a Jewish company, they prob arent working today bcs its Saturday
I think tomorrow or maybe in 2 days, everyone will get it, i alr saw some persons with kits from 2022 updating, mine is from 2023/2024 so will take a while. . .

eastern
06-28-2024, 08:31 PM
They are a Jewish company, they prob arent working today bcs its Saturday
I think tomorrow or maybe in 2 days, everyone will get it, i alr saw some persons with kits from 2022 updating, mine is from 2023/2024 so will take a while. . .

I got my results early jan 2020 and mine are still not here, I dont think its based off of date.

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 08:50 PM
For mixed ppl they do not are that good, especially if u have more than 20% Amerindian, but for monoethnic persons, they become one of the best company rn (They are relatively cheap, and pretty solid).

That's why I said that their recall is good (recall is for identifying the right ethnicity, especially for unmixed individuals)

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 08:55 PM
Who else is still waiting :bored:

I kind of already have mine but not the ones from them, so I'm still waiting for that, since their company ones are probably going to be more accurate, WHICH IS SOMETHING EVERYBODY SHOULD KEEP IN MIND, in my opinion, since Ancestry DNA and 23andMe both only have their own SNP results to work with.

Tie red
06-28-2024, 08:55 PM
Dacoceltic has almost the perfect split.

They completly screwed up my result. I'm now 85.5 % Balkan... Where is my half-flemish part from my dad ?

https://i.postimg.cc/444WQdkj/overfit.png

vader
06-28-2024, 08:59 PM
Btw the Portuguese music they selected is not fado sounds flamingo. Sounds gyspy influenced lmao

gixajo
06-28-2024, 09:00 PM
My complete update

https://i.postimg.cc/m2gMxg9j/MAPAActualizado2024-My-Heritage-M-os.png

Te han dado portugués, no?

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 09:02 PM
Te han dado portugués, no?

There's literally nothing showing there.

vader
06-28-2024, 09:05 PM
There's literally nothing showing there.

I think he’s referring to the map with a highlight over Portugal/ galicia

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 09:06 PM
I think he’s referring to the map with a highlight over Portugal/ galicia

Ik, but Gallop didn't show anything on the percentage results.

Selene
06-28-2024, 09:08 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/NfYJ5X5q/IMG-20240628-230020.jpg

Luke35
06-28-2024, 09:10 PM
Dacoceltic has almost the perfect split.

They completly screwed up my result. I'm now 85.5 % Balkan... Where is my half-flemish part from my dad ?

https://i.postimg.cc/444WQdkj/overfit.png

I'm thinking one possibility is that you weren't phased very well, so the algorithm is assigning your regions based on your midpoint. Hence you get assigned as Balkan, but with some northern admixture. Perhaps your real result should be something like 35% Balkan, 15% Greek & Albanian, and 50% NW European (Germanic/Dutch, etc). Not saying that you have Greek & Albanian admix, just that your Balkan side may be southern-shifted (relative to the new MH Balkan reference panel). Just one possibility as to what may be going on here, I could certainly be wrong.

Hopefully they add a parental phasing feature in the future. For now, I assume that they are relying on a statistical phasing algorithm to align your chromosomes.

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 09:53 PM
Dacoceltic has almost the perfect split.

They completly screwed up my result. I'm now 85.5 % Balkan... Where is my half-flemish part from my dad ?

https://i.postimg.cc/444WQdkj/overfit.png

Yeah, many persons 50/50 are begin readed as 75%+ from just one side, look at that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/5XutWlm0sk

She is Half Korean, and got 75% Chinese, a guy which was Half Welsh/Italian also scored 75% Italian and etc

Beowulf
06-28-2024, 09:59 PM
Yeah, many persons 50/50 are begin readed as 75%+ from just one side, look at that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyHeritage/s/5XutWlm0sk

She is Half Korean, and got 75% Chinese, a guy which was Half Welsh/Italian also scored 75% Italian and etc

Man.. then i'm sure i'll end up as 100% Iberian probably LoL

gixajo
06-28-2024, 10:04 PM
Man.. then i'm sure i'll end up as 100% Iberian probably LoL

I didn't want to tell you so you could keep your hopes up but...

:icon_yes:

Damiăo de Góis
06-28-2024, 10:24 PM
New result:


Your regions look very specific (and accurate), but i see they were already there in the older version. Did they have this information, or were they able to "guess"?

Eurafricanid
06-28-2024, 10:40 PM
Your regions look very specific (and accurate), but i see they were already there in the older version. Did they have this information, or were they able to "guess"?

They do it the same way the other companies do it.

These are mine:


Just got my updated results (1/3), looks fairly accurate, but kinda lacking too.

https://i.imgur.com/vurSVWP.jpg


Old:

https://i.imgur.com/qQWQCDw.jpg

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 10:45 PM
Man.. then i'm sure i'll end up as 100% Iberian probably LoL

Dont lost yout hope, look at that guy, mixed as fuck, and got a good results
https://www.reddit.com/r/AncestryDNA/s/2jrd9soYGs

vader
06-28-2024, 10:59 PM
Your regions look very specific (and accurate), but i see they were already there in the older version. Did they have this information, or were they able to "guess"?

It seems like they guessed it. When I click the regions it says how many people make up the cluster for the region. Not sure if it is based on my matches or what.

Demirkazık
06-28-2024, 11:20 PM
This update made me half Greek & Albanian, and lose a bit of hair. :rotfl

https://i.ibb.co/30s9CtC/yeni.png

I'm very surprised that there are no East European or Finnish in my results. I quite expected them, to be honest. And I don't have any Japanese anymore, which is devastating...

Jingle Bell
06-28-2024, 11:29 PM
Your regions look very specific (and accurate), but i see they were already there in the older version. Did they have this information, or were they able to "guess"?

Genetic groups are based in various Genealogicas trees (With at least 400 Years) with a lot of people from determinated region, based in how much u share DNA in commun with that persons, and how much persons from that area ur have matches u get a genetical group with a determinated accuracy (Low, Medium, High).

For example: A group with 100 Genealogical trees with 5000 persons tested from Bavaria share many ancestors in comum, all they have very extend trees, so a groups is created, if u score 50% Germanic, matchs with a lot of them, and they have matchs in comum with you recently, u will get this genetic group as a complement in your results, generally its crazily accurated, especially the "High confidence" ones.

hazmatnik
06-28-2024, 11:39 PM
Paternal aunt (Sumadija)

https://i.postimg.cc/BZ29WKdz/Screenshot-20240628-182936-My-Heritage.jpg (https://postimg.cc/8sknMjkd)

Maternal aunt (SE Serbia, Shopluk, Kosovo)

https://i.postimg.cc/W15cWcQb/Screenshot-20240628-182919-My-Heritage.jpg (https://postimg.cc/9Dwk0Kmv)

Gallop
06-29-2024, 01:01 AM
In this section in 1800-1850 I see Italy, #Campania and #Caggiano which I see is a population of 2700 inhabitants approx. It caught my attention because my father in 23andMe has a complete Italian ancestor and the dates coincide with this result of mine. So if anyone knows if soldiers were recruited in this town or area for Napoleon's troops in the invasion of Spain (1808-1813) and never returned, please let me know.

https://i.postimg.cc/X79jGD2G/Alicante2.png

Mortimer
06-29-2024, 02:08 AM
I still have the old results, but it says, i chould check back because soon i will see updated results

Rafael Passoni
06-29-2024, 03:18 AM
Results appear reasonable, but they are somewhat oversimplified and generic. While they are not incorrect, they lack specificity and depth.
My results:

makes sense
https://i.imgur.com/krPPi3O.png

My mom:

(Syrian+ North İtalian (half) + South İtalian + French)
https://i.imgur.com/cZhLd27.png

My dad:

(37,25% İtalian + Spanish/European settlers in Algeria and Moroccos, likely mixed there)
https://i.imgur.com/aqNSFhK.png

My brother:

My Brother's results seems acuratehttps://i.imgur.com/lbuQZY3.png

Kiel
06-29-2024, 05:11 AM
Bonjour.
MyHeritage is pretty fucked up not gonna lie.
https://i.ibb.co/dGwYxGx/IMG-0844.png

Impaler
06-29-2024, 06:18 AM
My father's updated results:

https://i.ibb.co/kD0BFg6/eng.png (https://imgbb.com/)

MandM
06-29-2024, 06:50 AM
My Friend that is Pontic Greek, nice to see that MH can see the Pontic ancestry
https://i.ibb.co/kgCCBBh/Screenshot-20240629-084809-My-Heritage.jpg (https://ibb.co/2744hhj)

Tie red
06-29-2024, 07:11 AM
...

Tie red
06-29-2024, 07:13 AM
I'm thinking one possibility is that you weren't phased very well, so the algorithm is assigning your regions based on your midpoint. Hence you get assigned as Balkan, but with some northern admixture. Perhaps your real result should be something like 35% Balkan, 15% Greek & Albanian, and 50% NW European (Germanic/Dutch, etc). Not saying that you have Greek & Albanian admix, just that your Balkan side may be southern-shifted (relative to the new MH Balkan reference panel). Just one possibility as to what may be going on here, I could certainly be wrong.

Hopefully they add a parental phasing feature in the future. For now, I assume that they are relying on a statistical phasing algorithm to align your chromosomes.

Makes sense to me. I'm austrian on every PCA or G25 calculators.

I almost prefer my old result from FTDNA "population finder " from 2011. I got 95% western Euro and 5 % India which is also a way to tell me I'm Austrian.

Dušan
06-29-2024, 08:31 AM
Dacoceltic has almost the perfect split.

They completly screwed up my result. I'm now 85.5 % Balkan... Where is my half-flemish part from my dad ?

https://i.postimg.cc/444WQdkj/overfit.png

Interesting.

This genetic group "Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Serbia (Vojvodina)" is typical for Krajina and Bosnian Serbs.
It is from your mother side.

https://i.imgur.com/SjjCrir.png

MandM
06-29-2024, 08:52 AM
My Cousin is half swedish and half Romanian from Serbia, he got almost a perfect split

https://i.ibb.co/wpbfVvq/Screenshot-20240629-104837-My-Heritage.jpg (https://ibb.co/VMhsRKG)

Dušan
06-29-2024, 08:55 AM
My Cousin is half swedish and half Romanian from Serbia, he got almost a perfect split

https://i.ibb.co/wpbfVvq/Screenshot-20240629-104837-My-Heritage.jpg (https://ibb.co/VMhsRKG)

MyHeritage is getting better.

Ritz06
06-29-2024, 09:00 AM
I always did think that I'm 3/4 Norwegian, haha!:picard1:

New:
https://i.imgur.com/uDZUjFz.png

Old:
https://i.imgur.com/eyisHjC.png

Tie red
06-29-2024, 09:04 AM
I always did think that I'm 3/4 Norwegian, haha!:picard1:

New:
https://i.imgur.com/uDZUjFz.png

Old:
https://i.imgur.com/eyisHjC.png

Welcome to the club !

They better deploy a hotfix asap...

MandM
06-29-2024, 09:05 AM
MyHeritage is getting better.

Well at least for my family is gotten very good, we all got a lot that we dont have any ancestry from, but now it seems that we all have the regions we are from

Dušan
06-29-2024, 09:09 AM
Well at least for my family is gotten very good, we all got a lot that we dont have and ancestry from, but now it seems that we all have the regions we are from

For me, too.
I lost 17% East European, and now it is 100% Balkan, as an average Serb should get.

Kiel
06-29-2024, 09:56 AM
Girlfriends result
https://i.ibb.co/kMnwdQH/IMG-0845.jpg

majevica
06-29-2024, 10:24 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/GpK4YKcF/IMG-3392.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Kaspias
06-29-2024, 11:15 AM
https://i.ibb.co/VtMHfCy/dna.png

Feiichy
06-29-2024, 11:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/6wU5Gbe.png

Kiel
06-29-2024, 11:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/6wU5Gbe.png

What do you think?

ScandinavianCelt
06-29-2024, 11:29 AM
I always did think that I'm 3/4 Norwegian, haha!:picard1:

New:
https://i.imgur.com/uDZUjFz.png

Old:
https://i.imgur.com/eyisHjC.png

Their system is flawed by tagging this "additional ethnic group" but not calculating that group into your main breakdown. It just doesn't work for some of us.

Feiichy
06-29-2024, 11:30 AM
What do you think?

Like! And I am sure your French is your Alsatian roots read that way :thumb001:

Selene
06-29-2024, 11:32 AM
Their system is flawed by tagging this "additional ethnic group" but not calculating that group into your main breakdown. It just doesn't work for some of us.

Ignore them, they will be deleted. Those are groups before the update

ScandinavianCelt
06-29-2024, 11:45 AM
Ignore them, they will be deleted. Those are groups before the update

His is half his genetics and mine 25-30%!

Eurafricanid
06-29-2024, 12:35 PM
My MyHeritage kit results:

https://i.imgur.com/fwi6A3y.jpg

It's both better and worse, it's better in the sense that it has indigenous now and it's worse in the sense that it's way more African than expected.


Old results:

https://i.imgur.com/QGj1U9T.jpg

Jingle Bell
06-29-2024, 12:59 PM
My MyHeritage kit results:

https://i.imgur.com/fwi6A3y.jpg

It's both better and worse, it's better in the sense that it has indigenous now and it's worse in the sense that it's way more African than expected.


Old results:

https://i.imgur.com/QGj1U9T.jpg

Looks pretty similar, but SSA still too high
Im still waiting . . .

eastern
06-29-2024, 01:03 PM
https://i.ibb.co/VtMHfCy/dna.png

Very high central asian for a balkan turk, do you have a similar result on other calculators?

Eurafricanid
06-29-2024, 01:05 PM
Looks pretty similar, but SSA still too high
Im still waiting . . .

Yeah, my SSA is 66.6 (:eek:) now, it's following the trend for most mixed people.

Gergő Marosvári
06-29-2024, 01:30 PM
Girlfriends result
https://i.ibb.co/kMnwdQH/IMG-0845.jpg

After this update majority of the Hungarians ended up as mostly East European with a little Balkan, Germanic and that's it.
Is it accurate for her?

Kaspias
06-29-2024, 02:34 PM
Very high central asian for a balkan turk, do you have a similar result on other calculators?

Yes. See the qpAdm in my signature.

Abriekman
06-29-2024, 02:40 PM
Still didn't get any update yet

Flashball
06-29-2024, 03:44 PM
If we compare with his 23andme results, the French contribution is better detected (in his case, not for me) on Myheritage than on 23andme with less southern euro.

Central french friend (berry)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRQBEvPXQAAFTdS?format=jpg&name=large

23andme
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRQA_hlXQAA_Seb?format=png&name=360x360

djipon
06-29-2024, 04:36 PM
Is the URL to the new results the same? Can someone who received their results share info? Maybe we can try and see the results before they are ready, as it was possible before. The ethnicity video I'm taking about...

Jingle Bell
06-29-2024, 05:05 PM
Is the URL to the new results the same? Can someone who received their results share info? Maybe we can try and see the results before they are ready, as it was possible before. The ethnicity video I'm taking about...

Yeah, i tried everything bro, sadly, the only thing we can do is wait . . .

RyoHazuki
06-29-2024, 05:10 PM
I always did think that I'm 3/4 Norwegian, haha!:picard1:

New:
https://i.imgur.com/uDZUjFz.png

Old:
https://i.imgur.com/eyisHjC.png

Wow that is actually pretty insane. They really are basically doing ADC 2X on people which is why lots of unique admix in mixed heritage people is being overgeneralized.

Kiel
06-29-2024, 05:13 PM
https://i.ibb.co/VtMHfCy/dna.png


After this update majority of the Hungarians ended up as mostly East European with a little Balkan, Germanic and that's it.
Is it accurate for her?

Yes, definitely. Her ancestry results are mostly the same.

vader
06-29-2024, 05:41 PM
I’ve noticed that the Portuguese category on MyHeritage is flawed. Many white Brazilians are scoring 100% Portuguese or close to it with clearly non-euro extra admixture which 23andMe or Ancestry would discern. Which lends me to believe the sample is broad and includes some sort of mixed samples? If you go on reddit on some Brazilian and other ethnicities that get Portuguese you’ll instantly see what I mean. This doesn’t seem to be an issue with the Spanish, Catalan and Basque category.

Ex. One Brazilian gets 98.8% Portuguese yet has 6% indigenous American and about 3-4% ssa ancestry on 23andMe. I saw another get 100% with about 1% indigenous and 3% ssa picked up on ancestrydna. One more example is a white Puerto Rican who on 23andMe gets about 87% euro iberian mostly from Asturias and Canarias. His canarian admixture getting picked up as 23.5% pt and his ssa of 4% which appeared on all other tests was erased, while his indigenous was inflated by 1%. I’d imagine there are way more examples.

~Elizabeth~
06-29-2024, 06:31 PM
I received an email message from MyHeritage that they have shipped a new kit to me. I bought it for my Mom. I get 56.6% English and 43.4% Germanic. Her English should be much higher than mine.

My known recent ancestry, on paper, is 62.5% British (mixed from England, Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland), 25% Czechoslovakian, and 12.5% mixed NW European (Dutch, German, French).

Jingle Bell
06-29-2024, 07:49 PM
I’ve noticed that the Portuguese category on MyHeritage is flawed. Many white Brazilians are scoring 100% Portuguese or close to it with clearly non-euro extra admixture which 23andMe or Ancestry would discern. Which lends me to believe the sample is broad and includes some sort of mixed samples? If you go on reddit on some Brazilian and other ethnicities that get Portuguese you’ll instantly see what I mean. This doesn’t seem to be an issue with the Spanish, Catalan and Basque category.

Ex. One Brazilian gets 98.8% Portuguese yet has 6% indigenous American and about 3-4% ssa ancestry on 23andMe. I saw another get 100% with about 1% indigenous and 3% ssa picked up on ancestrydna. One more example is a white Puerto Rican who on 23andMe gets about 87% euro iberian mostly from Asturias and Canarias. His canarian admixture getting picked up as 23.5% pt and his ssa of 4% which appeared on all other tests was erased, while his indigenous was inflated by 1%. I’d imagine there are way more examples.

No, the problem inst the samples, the same thing occours with AFRAMS but with Nigerian, many guy that are like 80% SSA the rest European scoring 100% Nigerian, the thing is that many minor components are begin absorved by the major ones, many whites Brs have like 10 - 20% Non Euro, that is mostly absorved by the major component (always portuguese).