Classify Spanish football team from Albacete

[Valenman]

All players are native Spaniards, although the majority of players are not from Albacete or Castilla la Mancha, but from different parts of Spain.
Ps.The photos are not the best quality in the world I know, but it didn't get any better
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[Guthrie]

1. Atlantid, minor Alpine
2. Atlantid
3. Gracile Med or Baskid
4. Alpine
5. Atlantid
6. Berid or Atlanto-Med
7. Atlantid
8. Atlanto-Med
9. Subnordid + Borreby ?
10. Gracile Med
11. Baskid or Alpine-Dinarid
12. Subnordid + Borreby
13. Baskid
14. Baskid or Atlanto-Med
15. Gracile Med
16. Atlantid, slanted eyes are not that common in Spain
17. Alpine-Med ?
18. Berid

[Oliver109]

Quite dark
, again meds, alpine meds, Cappadocian meds, someone will be along soon saying that many are probably from Madrid and Barcelona and so probably not native.

[Valenman]

Quite dark
, again meds, alpine meds, Cappadocian meds, someone will be along soon saying that many are probably from Madrid and Barcelona and so probably not native.

Some photos are of shitty quality,But no, most of them were not born in Barcelona or Madrid and also in the 90s, so probably 100% are natives, plus surnames etc...

[Guthrie]

Quite dark
, again meds, alpine meds, Cappadocian meds, someone will be along soon saying that many are probably from Madrid and Barcelona and so probably not native.

Cappadocian Med = East Med ? 4, 6, 10, 13 and 17 could be so, but 4 is the only one that looks "eastern-shifted" imo.

[Valenman]

1. Atlantid, minor Alpine
2. Atlantid
3. Gracile Med or Baskid
4. Alpine
5. Atlantid
6. Berid or Atlanto-Med
7. Atlantid
8. Atlanto-Med
9. Subnordid + Borreby ?
10. Gracile Med
11. Baskid or Alpine-Dinarid
12. Subnordid + Borreby
13. Baskid
14. Baskid or Atlanto-Med
15. Gracile Med
16. Atlantid, slanted eyes are not that common in Spain
17. Alpine-Med ?
18. Berid

Spain and France They are probably a country in Western Europe with more people with Pseudo-Lappoid or East-Asian traits. Many anthropologists were already talking about it https://modernphenotypes.miraheze.org/wiki/Bretonid

[Guthrie]

Spain and France They are probably a country in Western Europe with more people with Pseudo-Lappoid or East-Asian traits. Many anthropologists were already talking about it https://modernphenotypes.miraheze.org/wiki/Bretonid

Interesting, I would've rather thought of Ireland. I knew there was a theory about Brittons descending from an Asian people because of the pseudo-Asian features in some parts of Brittany (pays Bigouden). I didn't know this for France as a whole and Spain.
The page of your link seems to have been suppressed.

[Sovanz]

Euro Mediterraneans .

[Oliver109]

Interesting, I would've rather thought of Ireland. I knew there was a theory about Brittons descending from an Asian people because of the pseudo-Asian features in some parts of Brittany (pays Bigouden). I didn't know this for France as a whole and Spain.
The page of your link seems to have been suppressed.

It's basically related to the original Tajik/Pamir people i.e alpines proper, you see it quite a lot in parts of France and in the UK and Ireland, fundamentally it's just caucasoid but pseudo Asian traits can be present.

[Valenman]

Interesting, I would've rather thought of Ireland. I knew there was a theory about Brittons descending from an Asian people because of the pseudo-Asian features in some parts of Brittany (pays Bigouden). I didn't know this for France as a whole and Spain.
The page of your link seems to have been suppressed.

Basically the extreme Alpins of France (especially Britonia and Aquitani) and to a lesser extent Spain tend to have Pseudo Mongoloid features, especially those that have darker pigmentation.

[Oliver109]

Basically the extreme Alpins of France (especially Britonia and Aquitani) and to a lesser extent Spain tend to have Pseudo Mongoloid features, especially those that have darker pigmentation.

And Ireland and probably UK too

[Guthrie]

It's basically related to the original Tajik/Pamir people i.e alpines proper, you see it quite a lot in parts of France and in the UK and Ireland, fundamentally it's just caucasoid but pseudo Asian traits can be present.

I thought the Alpine phenotype came from the Celts ?

But I see what Valenman and you mean.
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/12/4/1648142484-c0908ee3-0e9b-4aa3-a428-e1317e84c62c.jpeg (could seem part-Lappid, just hyperbrachycephalic West Alpinid)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs-wZBcWcAAVgRO.jpg (pseudo-Asian eyes)
However, I think this is still rare, especially such eyes.

[Oliver109]

I thought the Alpine phenotype came from the Celts ?

But I see what Valenman and you mean.
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2022/12/4/1648142484-c0908ee3-0e9b-4aa3-a428-e1317e84c62c.jpeg (could seem part-Lappid, just hyperbrachycephalic West Alpinid)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs-wZBcWcAAVgRO.jpg (pseudo-Asian eyes)
However, I think this is still rare, especially such eyes.

It probably comes from a darker pigmented Cro magnid that wondered across southern Eurasia so likely originates in the forests of southern Russia and central ultimately.

[omidjahan]

https://www.futbolpedia.es/media/futbolistas/foto_jugador-6740p.jpg?
can pass in Iran well

[mariavazq]

Improve the quality of the photos and you will see how well the ethnic Spanish women of Albacete are distinguished from those who are not.
129999

[Oliver109]

Improve the quality of the photos and you will see how well the ethnic Spanish women of Albacete are distinguished from those who are not.
129999

quite dark in general

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It's basically related to the original Tajik/Pamir people i.e alpines proper, you see it quite a lot in parts of France and in the UK and Ireland, fundamentally it's just caucasoid but pseudo Asian traits can be present.

Remember you said you have sources, metrics, etc. for everything you say?

I'm now asking you to provide the source. Needless to say this post will go unanswered.

[Oliver109]

Remember you said you have sources, metrics, etc. for everything you say?

I'm now asking you to provide the source. Needless to say this post will go unanswered.

It's about similar looking people in those locales and also Coons research on people from those places.

[mariavazq]

quite dark in general

The important thing is that ethnic Spaniard women are whiter than you.

[Oliver109]

The important thing is that ethnic Spaniard women are whiter than you.

some are but 90% are not

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It's about similar looking people in those locales and also Coons research on people from those places.

Tell me about Coons research. Where does he say they're 'basically related to the original Tajik/Pamir"?

[Oliver109]

Tell me about Coons research. Where does he say they're 'basically related original Tajik/Pamir"?

"Since the Tajiks form the basis of the population of Russian Turkestan as well as of the mountains to the south, and since all other elements in the population are known and have been described, our only concern here is the elucidation of the racial position of the Tajiks. This is a comparatively easy task.161 The Tajiks are of moderate stature, with a mean of 166 cm., the same in the oases of Samarkand and Ferghana, in the foothill country of Ura-Tuba and Pedjerent, and in the mountains, lying between the headwaters of the Syr Daria and those of the Amu Daria in Afghanistan. Their arm length and arm segment proportions show them to resemble closely southern Germans and Frenchmen, in other words Alpines; at the same time they differ profoundly in these respects from mongoloids. In shoulder breadth, and in an especially great pelvic width, they again show their lateral constitutional tendency, and their Alpine body build.

The dimensions and proportions of the heads and faces of the Tajiks as a whole are as ideally Alpine as one can find in any unsorted population series; they might equally well have been measured upon samples from the most purely Alpine districts of France or Bavaria. The head length mean is 180 mm., the head breadth 155 mm., the cephalic index, 86. The auricular height is 127 mm., and the series hypsicephalic. The minimum frontal is 107 mm., the bizygomatic, 141 mm., and the bigonial, 108 mm.; the face height, 124 mm., the nose height, 55 mm., and the nose breadth, 34. The facial index is 88, on the border between mesoprosopy and leptoprosopy; the nasal index, 65."

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

"Since the Tajiks form the basis of the population of Russian Turkestan as well as of the mountains to the south, and since all other elements in the population are known and have been described, our only concern here is the elucidation of the racial position of the Tajiks. This is a comparatively easy task.161 The Tajiks are of moderate stature, with a mean of 166 cm., the same in the oases of Samarkand and Ferghana, in the foothill country of Ura-Tuba and Pedjerent, and in the mountains, lying between the headwaters of the Syr Daria and those of the Amu Daria in Afghanistan. Their arm length and arm segment proportions show them to resemble closely southern Germans and Frenchmen, in other words Alpines; at the same time they differ profoundly in these respects from mongoloids. In shoulder breadth, and in an especially great pelvic width, they again show their lateral constitutional tendency, and their Alpine body build.

The dimensions and proportions of the heads and faces of the Tajiks as a whole are as ideally Alpine as one can find in any unsorted population series; they might equally well have been measured upon samples from the most purely Alpine districts of France or Bavaria. The head length mean is 180 mm., the head breadth 155 mm., the cephalic index, 86. The auricular height is 127 mm., and the series hypsicephalic. The minimum frontal is 107 mm., the bizygomatic, 141 mm., and the bigonial, 108 mm.; the face height, 124 mm., the nose height, 55 mm., and the nose breadth, 34. The facial index is 88, on the border between mesoprosopy and leptoprosopy; the nasal index, 65."

So you're an illiterate. Where does it say they're related?

[Oliver109]

So you're an illiterate. Where does it say they're related?

here
To sum up this material, the Alpines of France, in the measurements and proportions of the head and face, seem to be smaller replicas of the Borreby people of northern Europe. They closely resemble the sedentary Iranian-speaking Tajiks of Turkestan, with whom we shall deal at some length later, and thus have possible relationships with a similar people far to the east. They furthermore differ greatly in facial dimensions and proportions from Dinarics and Armenoids in southeastern Europe and in western Asia. They differ profoundly from any group of Mediterraneans studied, and show a manifest affiliation to the general Upper Palaeolithic European group.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It's basically related to the original Tajik/Pamir people i.e alpines proper, you see it quite a lot in parts of France and in the UK and Ireland, fundamentally it's just caucasoid but pseudo Asian traits can be present.


It probably comes from a darker pigmented Cro magnid that wondered across southern Eurasia so likely originates in the forests of southern Russia and central ultimately.

Derpy derpy derp

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

here
To sum up this material, the Alpines of France, in the measurements and proportions of the head and face, seem to be smaller replicas of the Borreby people of northern Europe. They closely resemble the sedentary Iranian-speaking Tajiks of Turkestan, with whom we shall deal at some length later, and thus have possible relationships with a similar people far to the east. They furthermore differ greatly in facial dimensions and proportions from Dinarics and Armenoids in southeastern Europe and in western Asia. They differ profoundly from any group of Mediterraneans studied, and show a manifest affiliation to the general Upper Palaeolithic European group.

Like I said, you're illiterate.

"...and thus possible relationships with a similar people far east."

'Possible relationships' is not 'basically related...' but suspected that they may be related but not confirmed.

That being said, this is all psuedo-science. There is something called population genetics, you know, and there is no genetic connection between these people in the East and a segment of southern Germans or French or whatever.

[Oliver109]

Like I said, you're illiterate.

"...and thus possible relationships with a similar people far east."

'Possible relationships' is not 'basically related...' but suspected that they may be related but not confirmed.

That being said, this is all psuedo-science. There is something called population genetics, you know, and there is no genetic connection between these people in the East and a segment of southern Germans or French or whatever.

It's pretty obvious that at least a large number are related as they have light eyes, skin etc and genetically haplogroup R is present in large numbers in Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan and of course in France Spain and UK.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It's pretty obvious that at least a large number are related as they have light eyes, skin etc and genetically haplogroup R is present in large numbers in Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan and of course in France Spain and UK.

It's pretty obvious that you never learned that correlation is not causation. You're also 20 years behind everyone else on population genetics. To have the Hapogroup R (no need to talk subclasses, apparently) ignores those populations are not related to Germans, French, etc. who are "Alpines.' There is not a segment of the German, French, etc. that shows a genetic relation to Tajiks.

No one who has been on this forum as long as you should be so ignorant of the very basics of population genetics.

[Oliver109]

It's pretty obvious that you never learned that correlation is not causation. You're also 20 years behind everyone else on population genetics. To have the Hapogroup R (no need to talk subclasses, apparently) ignores those populations are not related to Germans, French, etc. who are "Alpines.' There is not a segment of the German, French, etc. that shows a genetic relation to Tajiks.

No one who has been on this forum as long as you should be so ignorant of the very basics of population genetics.

All Eurasians are related from out of Africa groups, people from central Asia, the Middle east and North Africa are closer to Europeans than are people from southernmost Asia, the far east and the Americas.