Xinjiang IA folks on G25

[axlredneck]

https://youtu.be/ImwuaG_oMeo


THE PRIZE OF KINGS, THE DEATH KNELL OF EMPIRES

If one were to look at the broad strokes of the 2500 year history of the region, one would discover a vast assortment of empires and Khaganates (steppe empires or confederacies) that have laid claims over the region, stamped their culture in the region - only to be then displaced by another group of foreigners in an endless cycle. No other region in the world has been a ceaselessly sparring ground where foreign overlords dueled. For two millenniums, the Tarim Basin has been a measuring stick for any ascendant powers that could hold it, and a death knell for any power that fails to keep it.

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/qWMr0P0/IMG-20240518-192702.jpg
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[axlredneck]

Xinjiang_IA_50,0.0814347,-0.0982219,0.0268001,0.0561311,-0.0536847,0.0144058,-0.0034976,-0.0060989,-0.024033,-0.0318588,-0.0128559,-0.0027758,0.0026051,-0.0230581,0.0181543,0.0105512,-0.005723,-0.0010928,0.0023303,0.0011792,-0.0162434,0.0012642,0.0023165,0.0015765,0.0017457
Saka,0.0857739,-0.1156978,0.0614975,0.0476886,-0.0436564,0.0023308,-1.68e-05,0.0017966,-0.0115701,-0.0231569,-0.0103812,-0.0020339,0.0017628,-0.0228651,0.0151036,0.0060612,-0.0051316,-0.0009772,-0.0011851,0.0055919,-0.0200629,0.0044691,-0.0008627,0.0018419,-0.0020101
Tocharian,0.0908968,0.0260023,-0.0399326,0.0935749,-0.0937026,0.0405896,-0.0055097,-0.0192778,-0.0602836,-0.0655524,0.0030035,0.0001838,0.0040655,-0.0304438,0.0263254,0.0225446,-0.006808,0.0031519,0.0023908,-0.0117732,-0.0170066,-0.0070188,0.0063291,0.0015289,0.0031765
Tibetan,0.0177841,-0.3992195,-0.0049299,-0.028355,0.0169195,0.0124561,0.0043415,0.0089142,0 .0064961,0.0099319,-0.0833329,-0.0111961,0.0125948,-0.0039585,-0.00179,-0.0022761,-0.0058887,-0.0061745,-0.0032385,0.0080044,-0.0006016,0.0224021,0.0051581,-0.0041215,0.0288946
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[axlredneck]

Dzungaria_West_IA,0.0833752,-0.1198325,0.0558141,0.0464312,-0.0429309,0.0045319,-0.0008812,0.00075,-0.011019,-0.0236676,-0.0111845,-0.0035968,0.0018952,-0.0199552,0.0173212,0.0095464,-0.00471,0.0006809,0.0021685,0.0053151,-0.0173756,0.003725,0.0000001,0.0025154,0.0006736
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CHN_Bolati_IA:C1708,0.081953,-0.147252,0.062979,0.043928,-0.041854,0.000558,0.002115,-0.003923,-0.010022,-0.02041,-0.015102,-0.006444,-0.001784,-0.020919,0.013029,0.00305,-0.005476,0.000633,-0.005908,0.007379,-0.014225,-0.002968,-0.00986,-0.005302,-0.006945
CHN_Chagangole_IA:C2042,0.091058,-0.092413,0.058454,0.053618,-0.0437,0.003626,0,-0.003923,-0.01943,-0.024055,0.001137,-0.005995,0.000743,-0.01968,0.019408,0.00305,-0.010691,-0.009628,-0.000628,0.006253,-0.025081,0.010758,0.009367,0.000361,0.001437
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CHN_Dongtalede_IA1:C1711,0.080814,-0.116786,0.051666,0.044897,-0.046778,0.010598,-0.003995,0.004615,-0.0045,-0.023873,-0.013803,-0.005245,0.007284,-0.016102,0.018594,0.01538,-0.00013,0.004941,0.000503,0.001626,-0.018842,-0.003339,-0.005669,0.006025,-0.000838
CHN_Eminhuojierte_IA:C4255,0.076261,-0.11577,0.064488,0.044251,-0.033852,0.00251,-0.000235,-0.000462,-0.010431,-0.02041,-0.011367,-0.001948,-0.001338,-0.021744,0.018458,0.024264,0.004563,0.003421,0.008 925,0.007128,-0.008111,-0.002597,0.002342,-0.002289,0.002994
CHN_Junmachanyilian_IA1:C1650,0.081953,-0.12491,0.058454,0.038114,-0.03416,0.004183,-0.000235,0.005077,-0.015135,-0.020957,-0.020786,0.002098,-0.003568,-0.01734,0.016015,0.004375,-0.008866,0.005954,0.006159,0.007379,-0.021462,0.001855,-0.002958,0.010604,0.005269
CHN_Songshugou_IA2:C3345,0.078538,-0.116786,0.046386,0.047481,-0.052625,0.001394,0.001175,-0.003461,-0.009204,-0.024237,-0.009906,-0.001798,0.002973,-0.01968,0.015608,-0.007558,-0.01343,0.000253,0.009679,0.001126,-0.019091,0.004699,0.0053,0.00735,0.003592
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[axlredneck]

Dzungaria_West_IA-HE_mixed,0.0653061,-0.2312869,0.0684474,0.021318,-0.056318,-0.0152344,0.0060512,0.0114226,-0.0030422,-0.0119592,-0.0139859,-0.0011052,0.002806,-0.0149494,0.0091274,0.0030661,-0.0021675,-0.0022962,0.0007698,0.008379,-0.0185454,-0.0011281,-0.0062394,-0.0008132,-0.0033529
Saka,0.0857739,-0.1156978,0.0614975,0.0476886,-0.0436564,0.0023308,-1.68e-05,0.0017966,-0.0115701,-0.0231569,-0.0103812,-0.0020339,0.0017628,-0.0228651,0.0151036,0.0060612,-0.0051316,-0.0009772,-0.0011851,0.0055919,-0.0200629,0.0044691,-0.0008627,0.0018419,-0.0020101
Rest,0.0346044,-0.40467055,0.07887225,-0.0182379,-0.0753104,-0.0415822,0.0151532,0.0258616,0.00974965,0.0048373 5,-0.01939295,0.00028785,0.0043708,-0.00307585,0.0001631,-0.00142655,0.00227865,-0.0042747,0.00370215,0.01255965,-0.01626915,-0.0095239,-0.01430445,-0.00479585,-0.0053671
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CHN_Abusanteer_HE:C4140,0.073985,-0.151314,0.056568,0.036822,-0.049855,-0.006136,0.00705,0.007154,-0.004704,-0.019135,-0.007795,0.001049,0.005203,-0.018992,0.008279,0.013657,0.009388,0.003674,-0.005405,0.002751,-0.027202,0.004451,-0.011216,-0.003735,-0.00958
CHN_Dongtalede_HE:C1712,0.076261,-0.187873,0.070899,0.049742,-0.056626,-0.004183,0.00047,0.006461,-0.00634,-0.0277,-0.013316,-0.004196,0.008176,-0.029451,0.016694,0.005304,-0.004172,-0.007348,0.001885,0.008754,-0.025705,0.005441,0.006409,-0.007109,0.002994
CHN_Dongtalede_IA2:C1710,0.072847,-0.214277,0.07467,0.034238,-0.053548,-0.009482,0.008225,0.007846,-0.011658,-0.022415,-0.010555,-0.004496,0.00446,-0.014038,0.013301,-0.000663,-0.018123,-0.001014,0.003142,0.011756,-0.024332,0.000124,-0.002095,-0.006507,0.002515
CHN_Jirentaigoukou_HE:C1370,0.05805,-0.245758,0.065996,0.00646,-0.059088,-0.018407,0.00564,0.01823,-0.001841,-0.006743,-0.016401,-0.001499,0.007284,-0.012524,0.005022,0.008221,-0.005215,-0.004307,0.003771,0.01013,-0.015348,-0.009521,-0.008627,-0.001325,-0.006586
CHN_Jirentaigoukou_IA3:C1360,0.048944,-0.278255,0.074293,0.005814,-0.060934,-0.027052,0.00846,0.013615,0.00225,-0.005285,-0.01153,-0.003747,-0.006095,-0.009909,0.008007,-0.005967,0.000391,-0.004814,-0.001131,0.000125,-0.016845,-0.01051,-0.017501,0.005904,-0.00467
CHN_Kafulang_HE:C4149,0.062603,-0.223416,0.062225,0.014858,-0.057241,-0.008367,0.00799,0.011307,-0.008795,-0.001093,-0.020299,0.006145,-0.005946,-0.007982,0.007329,-0.005171,-0.008214,0.00152,0.004399,0.008379,-0.020339,0.003339,-0.008504,-0.005543,-0.003353
CHN_Songshugou_IA4:C3346,0.062603,-0.279271,0.076555,0.020995,-0.051394,-0.024263,0.003055,0.00923,0.006545,-0.008383,-0.017538,-0.003747,0.005649,-0.01101,0.019001,0.002784,-0.000652,0.001014,-0.00905,0.008504,-0.010856,-0.003091,-0.0053,0.006507,-0.005389
CHN_Tangbalesayi_HE3:C789,0.067156,-0.270131,0.066373,0.001615,-0.061858,-0.023985,0.00752,0.017538,0.000205,-0.00492,-0.014453,0.001649,0.003717,-0.015689,-0.004614,0.006364,0.009257,-0.007095,0.008547,0.016633,-0.007736,0.000742,-0.003081,0.005302,-0.002754

[axlredneck]

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CHN_Baiyanghe_IA1:C3617,0.0774,-0.156392,0.035449,0.048127,-0.054472,0.020359,0.002585,-0.007154,-0.018816,-0.024237,-0.026632,-0.001349,0.001784,-0.021744,0.022665,0.002917,-0.012647,0.000887,0.004274,-0.004252,-0.01672,0.003215,0.003081,0.00241,0.001197
CHN_Baiyanghe_IA2:C3616,0.087644,-0.074134,0.029793,0.063308,-0.047086,0.009203,0.002585,-0.002077,-0.030474,-0.042825,-0.01023,-0.002548,0.004906,-0.018717,0.020087,0.004508,-0.008866,0.001774,0.00176,0.002626,-0.018842,-0.003339,-0.001972,0.003494,0.003952
CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:F004,0.071709,-0.182795,0.040352,0.033269,-0.052625,0.004462,0.002115,-0.004384,-0.027406,-0.019317,-0.038324,-0.003447,0.001041,-0.014863,0.011265,-0.009414,-0.020079,0.003674,-0.000126,0.015883,-0.012104,0.005441,0.007518,0.017472,0.006945
CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M010,0.056912,-0.188888,0.033187,0.033915,-0.029236,0.007809,-0.00564,-0.013615,-0.012067,-0.015308,-0.022247,-0.006744,0.01219,-0.021469,0.013572,0.008353,0.000782,0.008108,-0.008925,0.00075,-0.011979,0.003215,-0.008134,0,0.002634
CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M15-1,0.081953,-0.062963,0.008297,0.09044,-0.076014,0.028168,0.00611,-0.014769,-0.026179,-0.040821,-0.028743,0.005395,0.006838,-0.03358,0.017779,0.006232,0.006389,-0.003801,0.019735,0.002251,-0.026952,-0.009521,0.001109,-0.009158,0.006107
CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M819,0.072847,-0.153345,0.032809,0.041667,-0.0397,0.013666,-0.003055,-0.008077,-0.020657,-0.026424,-0.020461,0.000599,-0.004757,-0.015964,0.015608,0.005569,0.003781,-0.000507,0.011313,0.010505,-0.012228,0.005317,0.000123,0.005422,-0.002036
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CHN_Shirenzigou_IA:M827,0.0774,-0.175687,0.059585,0.013889,-0.050471,0.016455,-0.011045,-0.008769,-0.016362,-0.034989,-0.02241,0.005545,0.008176,-0.009771,0.007736,0.005569,-0.008605,-0.009248,0.004651,0.007379,-0.0141,0.000371,0.012078,-0.006266,-0.004431
CHN_Wuzan_IA4:C799,0.078538,-0.128972,0.038089,0.052326,-0.0397,0.012271,-0.00235,-0.00923,-0.026179,-0.02278,-0.019974,-0.003597,0.004162,-0.022845,0.015336,0.017104,-0.000522,0.000507,-0.000503,0.004127,-0.02009,0.005193,0.002465,-0.001687,0.002155
MNG_EIA_5:I13965,0.079676,-0.125926,0.039221,0.044251,-0.050163,0.003904,-0.000705,0.002538,-0.026179,-0.01877,-0.022897,-0.005095,-0.004311,-0.020368,0.016422,0.018563,0.004172,0.002534,-0.000377,-0.001,-0.014225,0.000989,-0.000493,-0.000482,0.003113
MNG_Late_Xiongnu:TAK008,0.093335,-0.098506,0.041106,0.05168,-0.05201,0.023148,-0.00564,-0.011538,-0.026793,-0.022415,-0.009581,-0.003597,0.001338,-0.02546,0.018187,0.009546,0.004955,-0.000633,0.004525,0.003502,-0.012977,0.006677,0.006286,0.007591,-0.006826
MNG_Late_Xiongnu:TAK009,0.083091,-0.116786,0.033564,0.048773,-0.050471,0.008925,-0.0047,0.006,-0.023725,-0.028429,-0.009581,-0.001349,0.000892,-0.021744,0.021715,0.01538,0.001043,-0.006714,0.01081,-0.001,-0.016845,0.002102,0.002095,0.004458,0.002395
MNG_SKT005,0.068294,-0.155376,0.028284,0.044897,-0.046778,0.012271,0.00611,0.000923,-0.021475,-0.019864,-0.025495,-0.003147,0.008622,-0.016515,0.015336,-0.003713,-0.029988,0.001394,0.000126,-0.003877,0,-0.003957,0.007272,-0.00253,0.005868
MNG_Xiongnu_Central_Asian:DA38,0.067156,-0.129988,0.029038,0.050711,-0.04924,0.010319,0.000705,-0.000462,-0.019634,-0.030616,-0.011367,-0.000899,0.000297,-0.01445,0.018729,0.006364,-0.009127,0.009755,0.006159,-0.005753,-0.015722,0.001978,0.009983,-0.001325,0.005269
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[axlredneck]

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CHN_Xianshuiquangucheng_HE:C2032,0.075123,-0.105615,0.026398,0.053295,-0.06155,0.013387,-0.00423,-0.004154,-0.019634,-0.030798,-0.009256,-0.004496,0.003122,-0.035369,0.016151,0.015513,-0.001434,-0.003547,0.003771,0.004127,-0.022211,0.00507,0.012941,0.005543,0.006586
CHN_Xikakandasayi_HE:C795,0.069432,-0.146236,0.015462,0.03553,-0.028005,0.008646,-0.003525,-0.002538,-0.013499,-0.023144,-0.033127,-0.010491,0.004906,-0.021194,0.016694,0.01127,0.001956,-0.003801,-0.002514,0.007629,-0.000749,0.006801,0.000246,-0.002892,0.002155
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CHN_Zaghunluq_IA2:C3652,0.073985,-0.125926,0.036581,0.043928,-0.037545,0.006693,0.001175,-0.002538,-0.034155,-0.037358,-0.019811,-0.001049,0.003568,-0.022295,0.018051,0.003978,-0.017602,0.000507,0.002137,0.004377,-0.014974,0.002597,-0.001725,-0.003494,0.004191
CHN_Zaghunluq_IA2:C3666,0.071709,-0.126941,0.026398,0.045543,-0.050471,0.013108,-0.00047,-0.006,-0.021884,-0.031162,-0.027444,0.001649,-0.00223,-0.012661,0.017372,0.006895,-0.002608,0.006461,0.002137,-0.002876,-0.013851,-0.002473,0.004437,0.00494,0
CHN_Zaghunluq_IA2:C836,0.076261,-0.129988,0.020742,0.058463,-0.048009,0.016733,-0.00517,-0.002077,-0.017998,-0.031709,-0.02582,-0.003297,0.00223,-0.026699,0.017101,0.021612,0.001304,-0.007855,-0.000126,0.008254,-0.01435,0.013849,0.001602,0.003253,0.006586
CHN_Zaghunluq_IA3:C812,0.062603,-0.20209,0.01697,0.038437,-0.048009,0.000279,0.002585,-0.002077,-0.019021,-0.02606,-0.027444,-0.002698,0.00446,-0.0278,0.011265,0.013392,-0.005867,0.0019,0.005279,0,-0.010856,0.004699,-0.001109,0.003494,0.013771
CHN_Zaghunluq_IA5:C837,0.094473,-0.023357,0.017725,0.08075,-0.060011,0.037371,-0.00705,-0.011999,-0.032724,-0.041914,-0.001786,-0.002698,0.005203,-0.034819,0.026194,0.00769,-0.008214,0.001647,-0.001257,-0.013256,-0.018467,0.000371,0.000123,0.00012,0.003712

[axlredneck]

Tarim_South_IA,0.0872345,-0.0410016,0.0072418,0.0706971,-0.0679578,0.0198658,-0.0085359,-0.0120786,-0.0324214,-0.0405372,-0.0032616,-0.0030074,0.0015165,-0.0260907,0.0209955,0.0141697,-0.0052129,-0.0028847,0.0022227,-0.0025759,-0.0182241,-0.0028579,0.0008225,0.0029987,0.0001119
https://i.ibb.co/Rz38pn6/IMG-20240518-201000.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/qk2hMZW/IMG-20240518-193226.jpg


CHN_Hetian_HE3:C387,0.094473,0.010155,0.001886,0.0 70091,-0.054472,0.033746,-0.011986,-0.016153,-0.035383,-0.033896,-0.003248,0.002098,-0.006392,-0.031653,0.026058,0.010475,-0.017602,0.00076,0.005656,-0.016508,-0.009982,-0.010263,0.00493,0.004458,0.005628
CHN_Jirzankal_IA:C1197,0.091058,-0.028435,0.003017,0.073967,-0.06155,0.025658,-0.021151,-0.019845,-0.031088,-0.036083,0.008282,-0.000749,-0.003865,-0.030552,0.017644,0.02148,-0.001565,-0.009755,0.002765,-0.008754,-0.013476,-0.003833,-0.001725,0.006507,-0.002874
CHN_Jirzankal_IA:C1220,0.087644,-0.033512,0.008297,0.085272,-0.066166,0.008925,0,-0.009692,-0.03027,-0.041368,-0.00406,-0.002548,0.001041,-0.032617,0.020222,0.021612,0.004042,-0.007855,0.000126,-0.002126,-0.015223,0.004081,-0.000123,0.011327,-0.001078
CHN_Jirzankal_IA:C1227,0.08992,-0.033512,0.006034,0.083011,-0.072321,0.015618,-0.0094,-0.003231,-0.028838,-0.04483,-0.011367,-0.002698,-0.003271,-0.024359,0.025923,0.001724,-0.0103,-0.012542,0.005908,0.001501,-0.02271,-0.004081,0.002711,-0.001566,-0.00012
CHN_Jirzankal_IA:C1230,0.085367,-0.053823,0.004525,0.066215,-0.075706,0.02008,-0.00282,-0.008307,-0.03027,-0.041185,-0.006333,-0.004496,0.007433,-0.02257,0.02348,0.006895,-0.010431,0.002914,0.003771,0,-0.018842,0.000495,-0.003821,0.009278,-0.003832
CHN_Jirzankal_IA1:C1194,0.08992,-0.019295,-0.004903,0.070414,-0.066782,0.016733,-0.003055,-0.012923,-0.032724,-0.041185,-0.000162,0.002698,0.001635,-0.007019,0.024701,0.009414,-0.012778,-0.003421,0.001006,-0.002876,-0.020963,0.000866,0.011832,-0.000482,-0.003712
CHN_Jirzankal_IA1:C1221,0.088782,-0.031481,0.004148,0.068476,-0.060319,0.024542,-0.014101,-0.013615,-0.030679,-0.044283,-0.001461,-0.003147,-0.004014,-0.02835,0.016286,0.021082,0.001434,-0.00076,0.008422,-0.003502,-0.0141,-0.002597,0.005916,0.004699,0.003353
CHN_Jirzankal_IA1:C1222,0.085367,-0.022342,-0.001131,0.075905,-0.073552,0.015339,-0.009165,-0.006461,-0.025361,-0.045559,0.001949,-0.002997,0.001784,-0.033167,0.020222,0.016706,0.013951,-0.009502,0.006788,-0.001,-0.017844,-0.003586,0.005176,0.001807,-0.001676
CHN_Jirzankal_IA1:C1229,0.087644,-0.046714,0.010182,0.066215,-0.08063,0.018686,0.003055,-0.014076,-0.034974,-0.041914,-0.006983,-0.008692,0.002527,-0.021469,0.019679,0.017634,-0.00013,-0.008742,-0.008045,-0.002126,-0.015098,-0.002968,-0.002835,0.00723,0.00479
CHN_Jirzankal_IA2:C1203,0.086506,-0.051792,0.009428,0.063308,-0.078168,0.028726,-0.00752,-0.010615,-0.036201,-0.039181,-0.003897,-0.008093,0.001041,-0.022983,0.017915,0.004508,-0.007693,0.00152,-0.003017,-0.006378,-0.018467,-0.001855,0.01023,0.003494,0.00491
CHN_Jirzankal_IA2:C1207,0.08992,-0.058901,0.017725,0.069445,-0.083092,0.013108,-0.009165,-0.021922,-0.034155,-0.037541,-0.002273,-0.001798,0.000297,-0.013487,0.021851,0.009414,-0.017602,-0.003927,0.005656,0.001376,-0.014599,0,0.002095,0.010483,0.003952
CHN_Jirzankal_IA2:C1212,0.079676,-0.059916,0.021496,0.071383,-0.074168,0.016176,-0.018801,-0.014076,-0.031906,-0.043008,-0.005359,-0.004046,0.00996,-0.023533,0.021037,0.009812,-0.02034,-0.001647,0.001508,0.006253,-0.016596,-0.003586,-0.00419,0.003494,-0.004071
CHN_Liushui_IA1:C1235,0.072847,-0.135065,0.014708,0.068476,-0.07386,0.009203,-0.015041,-0.018922,-0.030679,-0.044101,-0.005034,-0.000749,0.004014,-0.032204,0.015879,0.023468,-0.000522,-0.0019,-0.000503,0.004127,-0.027826,-0.005688,-0.00912,-0.002771,0.005868
CHN_Liushui_IA2:C1246,0.09675,0.020311,-0.004903,0.075259,-0.059396,0.026216,-0.003525,-0.001154,-0.035383,-0.039727,-0.005196,0.004346,0.005352,-0.026424,0.022394,0.022408,0.002738,0.008361,0.003 394,-0.003627,-0.0141,-0.009769,-0.001232,-0.001325,-0.000718
CHN_Shanpula_HE1:C3625,0.079676,-0.027419,-0.005657,0.057494,-0.041546,0.032351,-0.00658,-0.012461,-0.044586,-0.028429,-0.007632,-0.012589,-0.000743,-0.03702,0.035694,0.022408,-0.000652,-0.00266,0.000503,0.000125,-0.030321,-0.005935,-0.002465,-0.006868,-0.006945
TJK_Kushan:I12294,0.0902022,-0.0842839,0.031017,0.0662224,-0.0655965,0.0127458,-0.0073193,-0.009805,-0.0262446,-0.0463055,0.0005888,-0.004659,0.0074656,-0.0300448,0.0069423,0.0076749,-0.0059557,0.0030005,0.0016248,-0.0076992,-0.021438,0.0029924,-0.0042185,-0.0017861,-0.0016839

[axlredneck]

Dzungaria_West_IA Y-DNA

SAKA
https://yfull.com/tree/J-Y152335/
https://yfull.com/tree/N-Y147969/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-YP1677/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-S23592/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1455/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1548/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-FT292014/

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Dzungaria_East_IA Y-DNA

SAKA
https://yfull.com/tree/J-Y29712/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-F5400/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-KMS45/

TOCHARIAN
https://yfull.com/tree/R-PH155/ x7

[axlredneck]

Tarim_East_IA Y-DNA

SAKA
https://yfull.com/tree/C-Z22425/

TOCHARIAN
https://yfull.com/tree/R-PH155/ x13

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Tarim_South_IA Y-DNA

SAKA
https://yfull.com/tree/N-B187/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-YP4000/ x5
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/ x2
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Z93/

[axlredneck]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhgnqjVEt2310cxQKYMTFO_9uD1jdkswySb8m6k8XwBa pow6CZ6CiMzVsh398L017zxVxe_Z1BSYXd2fxYNsUtk9fvmiEQ H-9FzS0qYRFujV9TO01wRItJQhaiYV22ieWEOjpqw7kkv_k/s640/TARIM+KINGDOMS+2.jpg

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/DbRHz71/IMG-20240518-200448.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Kushan_prince_portrait.jpg


The Yuezhi were an ancient people first described in Chinese histories as nomadic pastoralists living in an arid grassland area in the western part of the modern Chinese province of Gansu, during the 1st millennium BC. After a major defeat at the hands of the Xiongnu in 176 BC, the Yuezhi split into two groups migrating in different directions: the Greater Yuezhi and Lesser Yuezhi.

The Greater Yuezhi initially migrated northwest into the Ili Valley (on the modern borders of China and Kazakhstan), where they reportedly displaced elements of the Sakas. They were driven from the Ili Valley by the Wusun and migrated southward to Sogdia and later settled in Bactria. The Greater Yuezhi have consequently often been identified with peoples mentioned in classical European sources as having overrun the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom. During the 1st century BC, one of the five major Greater Yuezhi tribes in Bactria, the Kushanas, began to subsume the other tribes and neighbouring peoples. The subsequent Kushan Empire, at its peak in the 3rd century AD, stretched from Turfan in the Tarim Basin in the north to Pataliputra on the Gangetic plain of India in the south. The Kushanas played an important role in the development of trade on the Silk Road and the introduction of Buddhism to China.

The Lesser Yuezhi migrated southward to the edge of the Tibetan Plateau.

[Leto]

Are there actual Toch-Aryan samples available?

[Demirkazık]

Are there actual Toch-Aryan samples available?

Based on their Y-DNA, they seem to be native remnants of WSHG.

[HectorOfTroy]

Would like to see comparison to ANE, as the Tarim Basim corpses were about 70% ANE.

[axlredneck]

From Wikipedia:
From the site of Xiaohe: nearly all (11 out of 12 - or around 92%) of surveyed paternal lines are of West Eurasian haplogroup R1a1, and one is of exceptionally rare basal paragroup K*.

According to a comment posted on 18 July 2014 by Hui Zhou, one of study's co-authors, the Xiaohe R1a1 lineages belonged to a specifically European branch rather than the more common Central Asian R-Z93.

Lol! This is all R1b-PH155.

[ScandinavianCelt]

My closest Tangbalesayi sample vs Modern Pop Ave: (I get a big chunk, about 8%, of this one on properly done modern&ancient calcs):

Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Tangbalesayi_LBA_Andronovo:C1714.SG
0.07674238 Swedish
0.07823515 Norwegian
0.07969448 Finnish_Southeast
0.08047227 Icelandic
0.08053718 Danish
0.08145179 Shetlandic
0.08221633 Irish
0.08331975 German_Hamburg
0.08370246 Ingrian
0.08374233 Scottish
0.08387172 Finnish_Central
0.08466650 Dutch
0.08569812 Erzya
0.08597647 Moldovan_o
0.08606991 Moksha
0.08644440 Finnish_East
0.08677085 Russian_Kostroma
0.08718675 Russian_Ryazan
0.08720223 Slovakian
0.08749000 Cossack_Kuban
0.08784500 Russian_Tver
0.08831273 Welsh
0.08845340 English
0.08858893 Finnish_Southwest
0.08862471 Czech


and, vs Ancient Pop Ave:

Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Tangbalesayi_LBA_Andronovo:C1714.SG
0.01060288 CHN_Tangbalesayi_LBA
0.02424651 CHN_Kuokesuxi_LBA
0.02587171 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
0.02691802 KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo
0.02695728 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
0.02756781 BGR_MLBA
0.02815370 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA
0.02938432 KAZ_Bylkyldak_MLBA
0.02957091 KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA
0.02994158 UZB_Kokcha_BA
0.02996316 KAZ_Karagash_MLBA
0.03021805 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
0.03077510 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
0.03120456 TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA
0.03212542 Corded_Ware_POL
0.03264213 KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul
0.03295603 Corded_Ware_CZE_early
0.03295714 KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1
0.03324350 RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA
0.03359195 RUS_Fatyanovo_Moscow_BA
0.03368863 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
0.03426468 KAZ_Chanchar_LBA
0.03435644 Corded_Ware_CZE_late
0.03458374 RUS_Fatyanovo_Yaroslavl_BA
0.03502183 CHN_Wutulan_LBA2

to Iron Age:

Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Tangbalesayi_LBA_Andronovo:C1714.SG
0.06633067 England_LIA:I14096
0.06742305 Scotland_LIA:I16495
0.06778657 Scotland_LIA:I3567
0.06812392 England_MIA_LIA:I13616
0.06850510 England_MIA_LIA:I20621
0.06984653 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I5503
0.07144693 England_MIA_LIA:I12790
0.07217935 England_MIA_LIA:I16458
0.07276023 Netherlands_LIA:I17750
0.07413088 England_LIA:I14097
0.07420859 Scotland_LIA:I27384
0.07444132 Scotland_LIA:I3566
0.07588831 England_LIA:I12931
0.07607225 Netherlands_EIA:I12905
0.07712204 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14102
0.07737212 Scotland_LIA:I27385
0.07783598 England_MIA_LIA:I19657
0.07810915 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I12414
0.07840401 England_LIA:I11144
0.07844522 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I13753
0.07850682 England_MIA_LIA:I20631
0.07890377 England_EIA:I11995
0.07948820 England_EIA:I13682
0.07976576 England_LIA:I14351
0.07987118 Scotland_EIA:I2692

[axlredneck]

My closest Tangbalesayi sample vs Modern Pop Ave: (I get a big chunk, about 8%, of this one on properly done modern&ancient calcs):

Cool!

[axlredneck]

Iron Age inhabitants of Xinjiang were clearly not a (fully) Caucasoid population. They mostly resembled the Bashkirs.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8AOQsRW4AEnHa-?format=jpg&name=large
https://i0.wp.com/u2.9111s.ru/uploads/202302/10/fb1042e235e05465f6a27a5e8c450b6c.jpg?ssl=1

[axlredneck]

qpAdm for Shirenzigou IA (East Dzungaria)

China_IA.SG

Kazakhstan_CentralSaka.SG: 66.7 +- 4.9
Nepal_Chokhopani_2700BP.SG: 17 +- 1.9
Kyrgyzstan_BA_Aygirdjal: 16.3 +- 3.4
chisq: 7.6
tailprob: 0.368

https://pastebin.com/CcybsqUb

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Shirenzigou_dwelling_%28from_the_North%29.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Shirenzigou_panorama.png

[axlredneck]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Kushanmap.jpg
The Kushan Empire was a syncretic empire formed by the Yuezhi in the Bactrian territories in the early 1st century.

The Yuezhi were described in the Records of the Great Historian and the Book of Han as living in the grasslands of eastern Xinjiang and northwestern part of Gansu, until their King was beheaded by the Xiongnu who were also at war with China, which eventually forced them to migrate west in 176–160 BC.

[axlredneck]

A mixed genome from Tajikistan
https://i.ibb.co/DgzY98m/IMG-20240531-210744.jpg

[Leto]

A mixed genome from Tajikistan
https://i.ibb.co/DgzY98m/IMG-20240531-210744.jpg
Please post the coordinates, I'd like to check how much Andronovo he is.

[axlredneck]

Please post the coordinates, I'd like to check how much Andronovo he is.


TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12294,0.095611,0.016248,-0.012822,0.043282,-0.054472,0.007251,-0.001645,-0.000462,-0.030679,-0.030069,-0.003735,0.001798,0,-0.015138,0.004479,0.00769,0.001173,0.004561,0.0043 99,-0.009129,-0.013851,0.003833,-0.004067,-0.001566,-0.001437
Kushan,0.0902022,-0.0842839,0.031017,0.0662224,-0.0655965,0.0127458,-0.0073193,-0.009805,-0.0262446,-0.0463055,0.0005888,-0.004659,0.0074656,-0.0300448,0.0069423,0.0076749,-0.0059557,0.0030005,0.0016248,-0.0076992,-0.021438,0.0029924,-0.0042185,-0.0017861,-0.0016839
Bactrian,0.09885628,0.07656714,-0.0391254,0.02951776,-0.0477973,0.00395412,0.00175958,0.0051438,-0.03333964,-0.0203271,-0.00632928,0.0056722,-0.00447936,-0.00619392,0.00300102,0.00769906,0.00545022,0.0054 973,0.00606352,-0.00998688,-0.0092988,0.00433736,-0.0039761,-0.00143394,-0.00128886

[Leto]

TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12294,0.095611,0.016248,-0.012822,0.043282,-0.054472,0.007251,-0.001645,-0.000462,-0.030679,-0.030069,-0.003735,0.001798,0,-0.015138,0.004479,0.00769,0.001173,0.004561,0.0043 99,-0.009129,-0.013851,0.003833,-0.004067,-0.001566,-0.001437
Kushan,0.0902022,-0.0842839,0.031017,0.0662224,-0.0655965,0.0127458,-0.0073193,-0.009805,-0.0262446,-0.0463055,0.0005888,-0.004659,0.0074656,-0.0300448,0.0069423,0.0076749,-0.0059557,0.0030005,0.0016248,-0.0076992,-0.021438,0.0029924,-0.0042185,-0.0017861,-0.0016839
Bactrian,0.09885628,0.07656714,-0.0391254,0.02951776,-0.0477973,0.00395412,0.00175958,0.0051438,-0.03333964,-0.0203271,-0.00632928,0.0056722,-0.00447936,-0.00619392,0.00300102,0.00769906,0.00545022,0.0054 973,0.00606352,-0.00998688,-0.0092988,0.00433736,-0.0039761,-0.00143394,-0.00128886
Thanks. The sample is roughly half Indo-Iranian/Aryan

Target: TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12294
Distance: 2.8710% / 0.02871001
46.0 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
30.8 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
9.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
7.4 MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave
6.6 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA

[thisismyaccount]

TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan:I12294,0.095611,0.016248,-0.012822,0.043282,-0.054472,0.007251,-0.001645,-0.000462,-0.030679,-0.030069,-0.003735,0.001798,0,-0.015138,0.004479,0.00769,0.001173,0.004561,0.0043 99,-0.009129,-0.013851,0.003833,-0.004067,-0.001566,-0.001437
Kushan,0.0902022,-0.0842839,0.031017,0.0662224,-0.0655965,0.0127458,-0.0073193,-0.009805,-0.0262446,-0.0463055,0.0005888,-0.004659,0.0074656,-0.0300448,0.0069423,0.0076749,-0.0059557,0.0030005,0.0016248,-0.0076992,-0.021438,0.0029924,-0.0042185,-0.0017861,-0.0016839
Bactrian,0.09885628,0.07656714,-0.0391254,0.02951776,-0.0477973,0.00395412,0.00175958,0.0051438,-0.03333964,-0.0203271,-0.00632928,0.0056722,-0.00447936,-0.00619392,0.00300102,0.00769906,0.00545022,0.0054 973,0.00606352,-0.00998688,-0.0092988,0.00433736,-0.0039761,-0.00143394,-0.00128886

What's the bactrian sample? What's its labels? Where was it found? It isnt one of these "Ksirov" samples, is it?

[Beowulf]

I've tried the samples for my paternal grandpa:

Target: Abuelo_Bartolome_Scaled
Distance: 0.0325% / 0.03245779
54.4 Iberian
35.7 Celtic
9.9 Xinjiang_IA_50

[axlredneck]

What's the bactrian sample? What's its labels? Where was it found? It isnt one of these "Ksirov" samples, is it?

The Bactrian coordinates are ghost coordinates.
https://i.ibb.co/DgzY98m/IMG-20240531-210744.jpg

[axlredneck]

https://youtu.be/0gFqLeAyROU

https://youtu.be/IJOQR3XpVlA

[axlredneck]

While the Sakas of Dzungaria retained their nomadic character and were connected to the wider Steppe world, the Sakas of the Tarim basin settled in the oasis cities, mixed with Tocharians, became sedentary, adopted Buddhism, and were prolly propagating the religion elsewhere in China.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Central_Asian_Buddhist_Monks.jpeg

[Leto]

Do you have the alleged Sogdian sample from Mongolia? It was posted somewhere a couple of years ago.

[Demirkazık]

Do you have the alleged Sogdian sample from Mongolia? It was posted somewhere a couple of years ago.

Both have a similar profile to that of Yaghnobis of the Sughd.


Mongolia_Arkhangai_EarlyMedieval:OLN002,0.095611,0 .084289,-0.033941,0.01938,-0.048317,0.008646,0.000235,-0.006923,-0.031906,-0.026606,0.000487,-0.000749,0,-0.01156,0.015065,0.001326,-0.02712,0.003167,0.000126,-0.008879,-0.009234,-0.009892,-0.002465,-0.005061,0.011017
Mongolia_Arkhangai_MLBAtoEIAorMedieval:TSB001,0.08 7644,0.060932,-0.02753,0.009044,-0.041854,0.009203,0.007755,0.001154,-0.032724,-0.024055,-0.001137,-0.001499,0.002973,-0.008395,0.015201,0.013657,-0.002477,-0.011529,0.006662,-0.004252,-0.00549,-0.003586,-0.001356,0.000482,-0.005628

[axlredneck]

Do you have the alleged Sogdian sample from Mongolia? It was posted somewhere a couple of years ago.


MNG_Early_Med_Turk:TSB001,0.08992,0.061947,-0.021873,0.01292,-0.041546,0.007809,0.00517,-0.000923,-0.02986,-0.024966,-0.004872,0.00015,0.006541,-0.009771,0.014251,0.010607,-0.004433,-0.011275,0.008673,-0.002876,-0.002496,-0.003215,-0.002342,0,-0.004311
RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:DUU001,0.103579,0.06702 5,-0.013953,0.046189,-0.028313,0.023985,0.008225,-0.001846,-0.020452,-0.028064,0.00406,0.004796,-0.002973,-0.020643,0.015744,0.014585,-0.007041,0.010895,0.008296,-0.005253,-0.01123,0.006677,0.00037,-0.000964,-0.00467
RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:BUR002,0.100164,0.05382 3,-0.000754,0.031654,-0.045547,0.015897,0.000235,0.001615,-0.031701,-0.024966,0.001137,-0.004946,0.003271,-0.018579,0.026194,0.005569,-0.012256,-0.00114,-0.002011,-0.004377,-0.01435,-0.002844,0.000246,-0.000241,0.002275
RUS_Late_Xiongnu_Sarmatian:HUD001,0.095611,0.03351 2,-0.004903,0.030362,-0.040007,0.011992,-0.000235,0.000923,-0.027406,-0.026789,-0.003248,-0.001349,-0.007284,-0.012386,0.022937,0.005038,-0.005346,0.004561,0.003897,-0.008254,-0.013351,-0.007296,-0.007148,-0.001084,-0.001317

[thisismyaccount]

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[axlredneck]

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[axlredneck]

The Xianbei were an ancient nomadic people that once resided in the eastern Eurasian steppes in what is today Mongolia, Inner Mongolia, and Northeastern China. The Xianbei were strongly suggested to be a multilingual, multi-ethnic confederation consisting of mainly Mongolic, and, to a minor degree, Tungusic and Turkic peoples.

In the first century BC, the Xianbei began to actively engage in the struggle between the Han and Xiongnu, which culminated in the Xianbei replacing the Xiongnu on the Mongolian Plateau in 93 AD.


https://i.ibb.co/ZT16cd6/IMG-20240705-140217.jpg

[axlredneck]

Y-DNA: J-Y152335 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y152335/) (Saka)
mtDNA: D4j5c1 (https://www.yfull.com/mtree/D4j5c1/) (Xianbei)

https://i.ibb.co/JzdYxnq/IMG-20240705-164309.jpg