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ScandinavianCelt
05-18-2024, 11:14 PM
Try your K36 G25 sims on this. It's K36 averages converted to G25.


<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/nxp5mDTd" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>

I recommend R5P @ .25x.

Target: K36.Brad
Distance: 0.6365% / 0.00636464 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.2 Irish_Ulster
26.4 Afrikaner
12.6 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
5.2 Darginian
2.6 Pashtun_Kurram

vs "official" R5P @ .25x


Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.6159% / 0.01615880 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.2 Scottish_Highlands
6.4 German_Hither_Pomerania
5.4 Bahun
5.0 Darginian

Beowulf
05-18-2024, 11:19 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0118% / 0.01181711 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.9 Austrian_Tyrol
42.3 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
9.0 Romanian_Central
2.8 Mozabite


<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.01578290
French_Provence


0.01933519
Italian_Aosta


0.02011909
Spanish_Baleares


0.02016906
Italian_North


0.02115142
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona


0.02161068
Italian_Veneto


0.02165245
Swiss_Italian


0.02194535
Spanish_Penedes


0.02248999
Spanish_Mallorca


0.02321781
Spanish_Galicia


0.02324152
Spanish_Peri-Barcelona


0.02364753
Spanish_Girona


0.02370018
Italian_Friuli


0.02416973
Spanish_Lleida


0.02421378
French_Central


0.02426739
Spanish_Alacant


0.02485735
Spanish


0.02486644
Spanish_Eivissa


0.02514049
Spanish_Catalunya_Central


0.02543149
Spanish_Barcelones


0.02712547
Spanish_Pirineu


0.02722399
Austrian_Tyrol


0.02786919
Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre


0.02839655
Spanish_Castello


0.02879281
Portuguese_Azores



</tbody>

Far_away
05-18-2024, 11:24 PM
FarAway_scaled
0.02402386 Montenegrin
0.02460977 Romanian_Northwest
0.02529700 Romanian
0.02538750 Romanian_Southeast
0.02569274 Montenegrin
0.02626442 Moldova_South
0.02680747 Romanian_Southwest
0.02696721 Bulgarian
0.02712814 Serb
0.02749945 North_Macedonian-2
0.02859603 Serb_Dalmatia
0.02886777 Bulgarian_2
0.02989306 Moldovan
0.03008852 Romanian_Northeast
0.03140051 North_Macedonian
0.03250068 Moldova_Centre
0.03292787 Gagauz
0.03429270 Romanian_Central
0.03598808 Albanian_Montenegro
0.03615623 Bosnian
0.03877347 Italian_Friuli
0.04068728 Moldova_North
0.04105980 Albanian_Kosovo
0.04113627 Italian_Veneto
0.04167726 Austrian_Tyrol

Target: FarAway_scaled
Distance: 2.3358% / 0.02335772 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Moldova_North
25.6 Albanian_North_Macedonia
23.2 Albanian_Kosovo

FarAway_scaled
Distance: 2.3242% / 0.02324168
45.6 Romanian_Northwest
23.6 Moldova_North
19.8 Albanian_Kosovo
10.2 Albanian_North_Macedonia
0.8 Armenian_Hemsheni

celticdragongod
05-18-2024, 11:28 PM
Distance to: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01191871 Scottish_Highlands
0.01205724 Scottish_Orkney
0.01207600 English_Southeast
0.01209345 Scottish_East
0.01232461 English_East
0.01242553 Scottish
0.01271474 Scottish_Southwest
0.01281138 Dutch
0.01281327 British_Ulster
0.01285833 English
0.01292551 English_West-Midlands
0.01297976 Irish
0.01306686 Dutch_Central
0.01308703 English_Northeast
0.01317318 English_Yorkshire
0.01321783 Irish_Connacht
0.01326259 Welsh
0.01332518 Irish_Leinster
0.01362112 English_Southwest
0.01363005 English_East-Midlands
0.01375906 Irish_Ulster
0.01393926 Irish_Munster
0.01412952 German_Westphalia
0.01418059 English_Lancashire
0.01452236 Cornish

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.2675% / 0.00267495
45.8 Irish_Ulster
14.2 German_Hither_Pomerania
12.0 Welsh
10.6 German_Frisian
7.0 Spanish_Cantabria
5.2 Darginian
2.2 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
1.4 Mozabite
0.8 Saami
0.4 Faroese
0.2 Dinka
0.2 Pashtun_Kurram

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3447% / 0.00344661 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.2 Irish_Ulster
17.6 Afrikaner
16.4 Scottish_Orkney
14.6 German_Hither_Pomerania
3.8 Darginian
1.4 Mozabite

MBVC
05-18-2024, 11:37 PM
Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0199% / 0.01990787 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.6 Mozabite
31.7 Iraqi_Jew
12.6 Sardinian
9.6 Somali_Kenya
9.5 Lithuanian

Xavier727
05-18-2024, 11:46 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0211% / 0.02112305 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.1 Faroese
10.5 Saami_Norway
8.2 Spanish_Canarias
7.5 Basque_Spanish
2.7 Makrani


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0204% / 0.02038086
63.9 Faroese
10.1 German_East_Prussia_Central
9.1 Basque_Spanish
7.2 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
2.0 Mari
1.8 Mozabite
1.6 Makrani
1.6 Udmurt
0.7 Saami_Norway
0.7 Surui
0.6 Darginian
0.5 Dusun
0.2 Mayan

Solitude
05-18-2024, 11:51 PM
i added comp samples

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.3215% / 0.02321521
57.8 Spanish_Valencia
18.6 SSA
5.6 Norwegian_North
4.8 Karitiana
3.8 Mozabite
3.2 Luhya_Kenya
3.2 Native_Brazilian
2.8 Jarawa
0.2 Amerindian

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.5449% / 0.02544872 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 Spanish_Canarias
18.4 SSA
13.8 Afrikaner
9.8 Native_Brazilian
3.0 Luhya_Kenya
2.0 Jarawa

without comp samples

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.9425% / 0.02942523 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.0 Spanish_Canarias
19.4 Gambian
17.0 Afrikaner
10.2 Quechua
2.4 Luhya_Kenya
2.0 Jarawa

Dušan
05-19-2024, 01:26 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962440 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.2 Lithuanian_2
25.0 Sardinian
16.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
5.0 Chuvash



Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.02425229 Moldova_Centre
0.02518775 Romanian_Northeast
0.02657533 Romanian_Southwest
0.02670237 Serb_Dalmatia
0.02687538 Bosnian
0.02704287 Serb
0.02784031 Moldova_North
0.03044687 Romanian_Central
0.03062558 Montenegrin
0.03103609 Romanian_Northwest

MandM
05-19-2024, 06:32 AM
Target: MandM
Distance: 0.0030% / 0.00298628 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Romanian_Southwest
34.1 Albanian_North_Macedonia
6.3 Romanian_Northwest
2.6 Chuvash

Gaditanian
05-19-2024, 11:02 AM
Target: Gaditanian
Distance: 0.5735% / 0.00573519 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC

64.6 Spanish_Cantabria
17.4 Egyptian
10.2 Afrikaner
4.6 Italian_Sicily
3.2 Dusun

ScandinavianCelt
05-19-2024, 11:24 AM
Target: Gaditanian
Distance: 0.5735% / 0.00573519 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC

64.6 Spanish_Cantabria
17.4 Egyptian
10.2 Afrikaner
4.6 Italian_Sicily
3.2 Dusun

How did you get the Dusun?

cass
05-19-2024, 02:59 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8357% / 0.00835714 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Polish_North
12.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.0 French_Southwest
2.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.2 Sindhi

Target: cass
Distance: 0.8411% / 0.00841051 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 German_West_Prussia
30.8 Slovak
6.4 Russian_Don_Cossack
6.0 Afrikaner
1.2 Gujarati
1.0 Yemenite_Mahra
0.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
0.2 Czech
0.2 Sindhi

nittionia
05-19-2024, 03:41 PM
Target: nittionia_scaled
Distance: 1.7914% / 0.01791434 | R5P
53.4 Faroese
23.2 Basque_Spanish
11.0 Udmurt
7.8 German_Frisian
4.6 Spanish_Canarias

Target: nittioniasdad_scaled
Distance: 1.2204% / 0.01220400 | R5P
52.6 Faroese
19.0 French_Southwest
17.8 Erzya
8.0 French_Central
2.6 Crimean_Tatar

Target: nittioniasmom_scaled
Distance: 3.4329% / 0.03432892 | R5P
54.8 Faroese
29.2 Basque_Spanish
8.4 German_Frisian
6.0 Chuvash
1.6 Ethiopian_Mursi

Kostek
05-19-2024, 04:39 PM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.2349% / 0.02234892 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.0 Polish_Sudovia
15.2 German_Lower_Saxony_South
4.6 Egyptian
2.4 Mozabite
1.8 Russian_Kaluga

cass
05-19-2024, 04:48 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962440 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.2 Lithuanian_2
25.0 Sardinian
16.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
5.0 Chuvash



Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.02425229 Moldova_Centre
0.02518775 Romanian_Northeast
0.02657533 Romanian_Southwest
0.02670237 Serb_Dalmatia
0.02687538 Bosnian
0.02704287 Serb
0.02784031 Moldova_North
0.03044687 Romanian_Central
0.03062558 Montenegrin
0.03103609 Romanian_Northwest

Labas vakaras

djipon
05-19-2024, 05:02 PM
Target: DjiponK36
Distance: 0.0057% / 0.00565418 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.0 Greek_Central
25.1 Greek_Azov
22.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
22.0 Portuguese_Azores
2.5 Jarawa

Target: MomK36
Distance: 0.0047% / 0.00465439 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.4 Russian_Yaroslavl
26.6 Maltese
26.0 Greek_Istanbul
12.3 Albanian
2.7 Jarawa

Target: DadK36
Distance: 0.0039% / 0.00392806 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.0 Albanian_Kosovo
22.2 Turkish_Istanbul
11.3 Russian_Yaroslavl
9.4 Spanish_Canarias
1.1 Italian_Veneto

Katarzyna
05-20-2024, 11:29 AM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8357% / 0.00835714 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Polish_North
12.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.0 French_Southwest
2.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.2 Sindhi

Target: cass
Distance: 0.8411% / 0.00841051 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 German_West_Prussia
30.8 Slovak
6.4 Russian_Don_Cossack
6.0 Afrikaner
1.2 Gujarati
1.0 Yemenite_Mahra
0.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
0.2 Czech
0.2 Sindhi

Target: Katarzyna
Distance: 1.5264% / 0.01526363 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.8 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
20.8 German_Lower_Silesia
19.0 Moksha
9.0 Russian_Don_Cossack
6.4 Ukrainian_Cossack

DomitiusAurelian
05-20-2024, 11:51 AM
Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 1.9168% / 0.01916815 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.0 Turkish_Aydin
40.0 Turkish_Kayseri

Distance to: Domitius_scaled
0.02705764 Turkish
0.02719354 Turkish_Aydin
0.03316393 Turkish_Balikesir
0.03329485 Turkish_Adana
0.03479242 Turkish_Kayseri
0.04078955 Turkish_Istanbul
0.06464817 Greek_Azov
0.07468193 Assyrian
0.07515414 Turkish_Trabzon
0.07579143 Greek_Pontic
0.08033427 Greek_Crete
0.08143297 Greek_Dodecanese
0.08178532 Jewish_Ashkenazi
0.08220550 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.08270404 Iraqi_Jew
0.08343871 Greek_Cyclades
0.08357118 Cyprus
0.08383762 Greek_Chios
0.08403398 Greek_Kalymnos
0.08481576 Greek_Ikaria
0.08722232 Greek_Kythira
0.08766310 Greek_Andros
0.08889175 Greek_Istanbul
0.08985556 Italian_Calabria
0.09063977 Italian_Apulia

Live The Magic
05-20-2024, 12:35 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8357% / 0.00835714 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Polish_North
12.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.0 French_Southwest
2.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.2 Sindhi

Target: cass
Distance: 0.8411% / 0.00841051 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 German_West_Prussia
30.8 Slovak
6.4 Russian_Don_Cossack
6.0 Afrikaner
1.2 Gujarati
1.0 Yemenite_Mahra
0.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
0.2 Czech
0.2 Sindhi

You have Yemeni distant ancestry?

ScandinavianCelt
05-20-2024, 12:45 PM
You have Yemeni distant ancestry?

I do.

Solitude
05-20-2024, 12:51 PM
wtf

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.9101% / 0.02910121 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.6 Spanish_Galicia
23.8 SSA
10.2 Amerindian
5.6 Dutch_North
2.8 Mozabite

gixajo
05-20-2024, 12:57 PM
Target: gixajo(MyHeritage)_K36sim
Distance: 0.6074% / 0.00607372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Spanish_Valencia
27.4 Basque_Spanish
8.0 Lithuanian
3.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.6 Mozabite

Target: gixajo(23andMe)_K36sim
Distance: 0.8970% / 0.00896964 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.6 Basque_Spanish
27.4 Portuguese_Azores
13.0 Spanish_Valencia
10.0 Lithuanian
8.0 Yemenite_Mahra

Not sure if simulated coords work fine in models:

Target: gixajo_dad(100%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.8276% / 0.00827622 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Spanish_Valencia
21.4 Spanish_Canarias
17.8 Basque_Spanish
6.4 Yemenite_Mahra
2.0 Sardinian

Target: gixajo_mom(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim
Distance: 0.6108% / 0.00610819 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 French_South
24.2 Spanish_Valencia
17.2 Spanish_Cantabria
7.2 Afrikaner
2.8 German_North_Moravia
2.8 Lithuanian
0.4 Mende_Sierra_Leone

Target: gixajo_enana(75%Álava&Biscay+25%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.4495% / 0.00449457 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 Basque_Spanish
41.4 Spanish_Valencia
8.8 French_Southwest
3.4 Lithuanian
1.4 Mozabite

Target: gixajo_dad_uncle(100%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.5234% / 0.00523418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.6 Spanish_Valencia
34.4 Spanish_Canarias
21.0 Basque_Spanish
4.2 Yemenite_Mahra
0.8 Tibetan_Chamdo

Target: gixajo_dad_cousin(50%Basque+50%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.3052% / 0.00305237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.6 Spanish_Valencia
26.6 Basque_Spanish
17.4 Portuguese_Azores
4.4 Finnish_Northeast
2.0 Mozabite

Target: gixajo_dad_cousin_wife(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim
Distance: 0.5865% / 0.00586490 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.2 Basque_Spanish
28.4 Spanish_Cantabria
14.6 Spanish_Canarias
10.8 Spanish_Pirineu
8.4 Irish_Ulster
1.2 Makrani
0.4 Jarawa

Target: gixajo_dad_cousin_wife_cousin(100%Basque_Álava)_K3 6sim
Distance: 0.4660% / 0.00465956 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.0 Spanish_Valencia
34.4 Basque_Spanish
18.2 Spanish_Cantabria
9.8 Afrikaner
0.4 Esan_Nigeria
0.2 Jarawa


In a PCA they work quite well.

If someone want to play with them:


gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim,0.118712,0.151203,0.044797,0.000653,0.049734,0 .000034,-0.001871,0.001924,0.027789,0.034070,-0.003694,0.005843,-0.011873,-0.004751,0.011004,-0.000043,-0.005352,-0.001211,-0.004066,0.000502,0.005150,-0.002802,-0.002653,-0.008352,0.001201
gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit2_K36 sim,0.117623,0.149190,0.042170,0.001779,0.048191,-0.000986,-0.002381,0.001702,0.027424,0.029670,-0.003612,0.003982,-0.008467,-0.005097,0.014536,0.001239,-0.008100,-0.000563,-0.004918,0.003221,0.006017,-0.001274,-0.003207,-0.007684,0.000020
gixajo_dad(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim,0.111819,0. 150282,0.038516,-0.008978,0.047269,-0.006114,-0.002421,0.000654,0.031623,0.036985,-0.001642,0.004883,-0.010008,-0.009110,0.009271,-0.000608,-0.005116,0.000223,-0.005019,0.001022,0.003367,-0.000735,-0.001875,-0.007472,-0.000479
gixajo_mom(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim,0.123142,0.150 183,0.051113,0.010728,0.051519,0.004115,-0.000521,0.002850,0.024899,0.034876,-0.004677,0.008692,-0.017698,-0.010302,0.014595,0.000075,-0.007080,0.000502,-0.002377,-0.002292,0.005757,-0.000606,-0.004471,-0.005107,0.001388
gixajo_enana(75Basque_Álava&Biscay+25%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim,0.125977,0.15179 1,0.049883,0.005640,0.053940,0.000828,-0.001578,0.001374,0.029222,0.040260,-0.005204,0.009308,-0.018092,-0.011463,0.014399,0.001865,-0.005029,0.001044,-0.002109,0.000088,0.006867,0.000781,-0.005316,-0.009529,0.000838
gixajo_dad_uncle(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim,0.109 016,0.148263,0.038029,-0.007492,0.044425,-0.004455,-0.002621,0.001224,0.030409,0.035847,-0.003064,0.007041,-0.014145,-0.011108,0.011593,0.000111,-0.002341,-0.001800,-0.004852,0.001640,0.005504,-0.001146,-0.002044,-0.007450,0.001031
gixajo_dad_cousin(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Ja én)_K36sim,0.119224,0.149425,0.047094,0.004186,0.0 49066,-0.000108,-0.001920,0.002115,0.027671,0.035260,-0.003975,0.007484,-0.014798,-0.011655,0.012274,0.001092,-0.003353,-0.000793,-0.003231,0.000503,0.004162,-0.001128,-0.001834,-0.006264,0.000654
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim,0. 122881,0.149698,0.048410,0.006679,0.049371,0.00122 6,-0.001858,0.001746,0.026392,0.037657,-0.004438,0.010151,-0.020996,-0.018419,0.018495,0.001251,-0.006801,0.000684,-0.002669,-0.000512,0.005309,0.001451,-0.003580,-0.001497,0.000026
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife_sister(100%Basque_Álava)_K3 6sim,0.122309,0.151051,0.050253,0.008233,0.052338, 0.002404,-0.000554,0.001678,0.026681,0.037974,-0.005097,0.009071,-0.019693,-0.012452,0.015516,0.000356,-0.005713,0.001936,-0.002846,-0.001259,0.005064,-0.000584,-0.004016,-0.005250,0.000707


Edit:Improved labels.

Solitude
05-20-2024, 01:03 PM
Target: gixajo(MyHeritage)_K36sim
Distance: 0.6074% / 0.00607372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Spanish_Valencia
27.4 Basque_Spanish
8.0 Lithuanian
3.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.6 Mozabite

Target: gixajo(23andMe)_K36sim
Distance: 0.8970% / 0.00896964 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.6 Basque_Spanish
27.4 Portuguese_Azores
13.0 Spanish_Valencia
10.0 Lithuanian
8.0 Yemenite_Mahra

Gixajo try this model here, is the same K36 calc but edited a little bit , what you get 0,25x?

<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/2Krtj2xU" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>

Live The Magic
05-20-2024, 01:37 PM
I do.

You have two accounts??

gixajo
05-20-2024, 01:54 PM
Gixajo try this model here, is the same K36 calc but edited a little bit , what you get 0,25x?

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Target: gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim
Distance: 0.8447% / 0.00844710 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 Spanish_Valencia
27.0 Spanish_Cantabria
6.4 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
3.2 Yemenite_Mahra
1.4 Mozabite

Target: gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit2_K36 sim
Distance: 1.0687% / 0.01068684 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.0 Spanish_Cantabria
10.6 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
8.6 Yemenite_Mahra
7.0 Spanish_Valencia
4.8 Spanish_Canarias

gixajo
05-20-2024, 01:59 PM
With just Basque and Andalusian references, taking to account that Álava is more a peri-Basque province genetically similar to Western Biscay and most part of Nabarre:

https://i.imgur.com/VyzT6ng.png

Solitude
05-20-2024, 02:42 PM
Target: gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim
Distance: 0.8447% / 0.00844710 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 Spanish_Valencia
27.0 Spanish_Cantabria
6.4 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
3.2 Yemenite_Mahra
1.4 Mozabite

Target: gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit2_K36 sim
Distance: 1.0687% / 0.01068684 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.0 Spanish_Cantabria
10.6 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
8.6 Yemenite_Mahra
7.0 Spanish_Valencia
4.8 Spanish_Canarias

some iberian coords always push a little bit of slavics samples normally balkans mixed with slavic or polish , german east , russia , ukraine , it would be probably Yamnaya?

Target: gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim
Distance: 0.7314% / 0.00731362
40.2 Basque_Spanish
36.6 Spanish_Valencia
15.0 Bosnian
4.0 Mozabite
2.8 Yemenite_Mahra
1.4 Slovak

Target: gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim
Distance: 0.7324% / 0.00732411 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Spanish_Valencia
28.0 Basque_Spanish
11.0 Slovak
3.6 Yemenite_Mahra
2.8 Mozabite

gixajo
05-20-2024, 03:27 PM
some iberian coords always push a little bit of slavics samples normally balkans mixed with slavic or polish , german east , russia , ukraine , it would be probably Yamnaya?



I don´t know the exact reason.

Beowulf
05-20-2024, 03:31 PM
Target: gixajo(MyHeritage)_K36sim
Distance: 0.6074% / 0.00607372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Spanish_Valencia
27.4 Basque_Spanish
8.0 Lithuanian
3.8 Yemenite_Mahra
2.6 Mozabite

Target: gixajo(23andMe)_K36sim
Distance: 0.8970% / 0.00896964 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.6 Basque_Spanish
27.4 Portuguese_Azores
13.0 Spanish_Valencia
10.0 Lithuanian
8.0 Yemenite_Mahra

Not sure if simulated coords work fine in models:

Target: gixajo_dad(100%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.8276% / 0.00827622 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Spanish_Valencia
21.4 Spanish_Canarias
17.8 Basque_Spanish
6.4 Yemenite_Mahra
2.0 Sardinian

Target: gixajo_mom(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim
Distance: 0.6108% / 0.00610819 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 French_South
24.2 Spanish_Valencia
17.2 Spanish_Cantabria
7.2 Afrikaner
2.8 German_North_Moravia
2.8 Lithuanian
0.4 Mende_Sierra_Leone

Target: gixajo_enana(75%Álava&Biscay+25%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.4495% / 0.00449457 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 Basque_Spanish
41.4 Spanish_Valencia
8.8 French_Southwest
3.4 Lithuanian
1.4 Mozabite

Target: gixajo_dad_uncle(100%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.5234% / 0.00523418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.6 Spanish_Valencia
34.4 Spanish_Canarias
21.0 Basque_Spanish
4.2 Yemenite_Mahra
0.8 Tibetan_Chamdo

Target: gixajo_dad_cousin(50%Basque+50%Andalusian)_K36sim
Distance: 0.3052% / 0.00305237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.6 Spanish_Valencia
26.6 Basque_Spanish
17.4 Portuguese_Azores
4.4 Finnish_Northeast
2.0 Mozabite

Target: gixajo_dad_cousin_wife(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim
Distance: 0.5865% / 0.00586490 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.2 Basque_Spanish
28.4 Spanish_Cantabria
14.6 Spanish_Canarias
10.8 Spanish_Pirineu
8.4 Irish_Ulster
1.2 Makrani
0.4 Jarawa

Target: gixajo_dad_cousin_wife_cousin(100%Basque_Álava)_K3 6sim
Distance: 0.4660% / 0.00465956 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.0 Spanish_Valencia
34.4 Basque_Spanish
18.2 Spanish_Cantabria
9.8 Afrikaner
0.4 Esan_Nigeria
0.2 Jarawa


In a PCA they work quite well.

If someone want to play with them:


gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim,0.118712,0.151203,0.044797,0.000653,0.049734,0 .000034,-0.001871,0.001924,0.027789,0.034070,-0.003694,0.005843,-0.011873,-0.004751,0.011004,-0.000043,-0.005352,-0.001211,-0.004066,0.000502,0.005150,-0.002802,-0.002653,-0.008352,0.001201
gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit2_K36 sim,0.117623,0.149190,0.042170,0.001779,0.048191,-0.000986,-0.002381,0.001702,0.027424,0.029670,-0.003612,0.003982,-0.008467,-0.005097,0.014536,0.001239,-0.008100,-0.000563,-0.004918,0.003221,0.006017,-0.001274,-0.003207,-0.007684,0.000020
gixajo_dad(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim,0.111819,0. 150282,0.038516,-0.008978,0.047269,-0.006114,-0.002421,0.000654,0.031623,0.036985,-0.001642,0.004883,-0.010008,-0.009110,0.009271,-0.000608,-0.005116,0.000223,-0.005019,0.001022,0.003367,-0.000735,-0.001875,-0.007472,-0.000479
gixajo_mom(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim,0.123142,0.150 183,0.051113,0.010728,0.051519,0.004115,-0.000521,0.002850,0.024899,0.034876,-0.004677,0.008692,-0.017698,-0.010302,0.014595,0.000075,-0.007080,0.000502,-0.002377,-0.002292,0.005757,-0.000606,-0.004471,-0.005107,0.001388
gixajo_enana(75Basque_Álava&Biscay+25%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim,0.125977,0.15179 1,0.049883,0.005640,0.053940,0.000828,-0.001578,0.001374,0.029222,0.040260,-0.005204,0.009308,-0.018092,-0.011463,0.014399,0.001865,-0.005029,0.001044,-0.002109,0.000088,0.006867,0.000781,-0.005316,-0.009529,0.000838
gixajo_dad_uncle(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim,0.109 016,0.148263,0.038029,-0.007492,0.044425,-0.004455,-0.002621,0.001224,0.030409,0.035847,-0.003064,0.007041,-0.014145,-0.011108,0.011593,0.000111,-0.002341,-0.001800,-0.004852,0.001640,0.005504,-0.001146,-0.002044,-0.007450,0.001031
gixajo_dad_cousin(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Ja én)_K36sim,0.119224,0.149425,0.047094,0.004186,0.0 49066,-0.000108,-0.001920,0.002115,0.027671,0.035260,-0.003975,0.007484,-0.014798,-0.011655,0.012274,0.001092,-0.003353,-0.000793,-0.003231,0.000503,0.004162,-0.001128,-0.001834,-0.006264,0.000654
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim,0. 122881,0.149698,0.048410,0.006679,0.049371,0.00122 6,-0.001858,0.001746,0.026392,0.037657,-0.004438,0.010151,-0.020996,-0.018419,0.018495,0.001251,-0.006801,0.000684,-0.002669,-0.000512,0.005309,0.001451,-0.003580,-0.001497,0.000026
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife_sister(100%Basque_Álava)_K3 6sim,0.122309,0.151051,0.050253,0.008233,0.052338, 0.002404,-0.000554,0.001678,0.026681,0.037974,-0.005097,0.009071,-0.019693,-0.012452,0.015516,0.000356,-0.005713,0.001936,-0.002846,-0.001259,0.005064,-0.000584,-0.004016,-0.005250,0.000707


Edit:Improved labels.



<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.02983885
gixajo_dad_cousin(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Ja én)_K36sim


0.03158578
gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit2_K36 sim


0.03166172
gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim


0.03202965
gixajo_mom(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim


0.03461060
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife_sister(100%Basque_Álava)_K3 6sim


0.03507318
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim


0.03725464
gixajo_dad_uncle(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim


0.03846007
gixajo_enana(75Basque_Álava&Biscay+25%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim


0.03935307
gixajo_dad(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim



</tbody>

gixajo
05-20-2024, 03:33 PM
[TAB
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Did you use your official or simulated coordinates?

With simulated references better to use your simulated ones if you haven´t done it yet.

Beowulf
05-20-2024, 03:36 PM
Did you use your official or simulated coordinates?

With simulated references better to use your simulated ones if you haven´t done it yet.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Simulated


0.03504042
gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit2_K36 sim


0.03925422
gixajo_dad_uncle(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim


0.04012215
gixajo(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Jaén)kit1_K36 sim


0.04016689
gixajo_dad_cousin(50%Basque_Álava+50%Andalusian_Ja én)_K36sim


0.04145201
gixajo_dad(100%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim


0.04454342
gixajo_mom(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim


0.04458689
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife(100%Basque_Álava)_K36sim


0.04688887
gixajo_dad_cousin_wife_sister(100%Basque_Álava)_K3 6sim


0.05010927
gixajo_enana(75Basque_Álava&Biscay+25%Andalusian_Jaén)_K36sim


</tbody>

Selene
05-20-2024, 03:46 PM
Distance to: Sylvanas
0.02131304 Moldova_North
0.02408705 Moldova_Centre
0.02507476 Bosnian
0.02698168 Romanian_Northeast
0.02718162 Croatian
0.02730837 Romanian_Central
0.02831113 Hungarian
0.02870286 Serb_Dalmatia
0.03122424 Serb
0.03127202 Romanian_Southwest
0.03257194 Romanian_Northwest
0.03270694 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03284707 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
0.03405411 Montenegrin
0.03496832 Austrian_Carinthia
0.03518706 Carpathian_Rusyns
0.03613925 Slovenian
0.03710444 Romanian
0.03735167 Austrian_Styria
0.03739226 Romanian_Southeast
0.03844969 Slovak_2
0.03919728 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03946763 Czech_Bohemia
0.03967343 Montenegrin
0.03982391 Czech_Moravia

Target: Sylvanas
Distance: 1.7473% / 0.01747337 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Albanian_North_Macedonia
31.0 Belarusian
15.8 Erzya
6.6 Ukrainian_Cossack
1.2 Cambodian


Lol!

Beowulf
05-20-2024, 03:46 PM
If i use simulated coords:

Target: Beowulf_Sim
Distance: 0.0098% / 0.00983074 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
67.0 Spanish_Cantabria
14.4 Darginian
8.3 Finnish_Northeast
7.7 Yemenite_Mahra
2.6 Iraqi_Jew

Petalpusher
05-20-2024, 03:46 PM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 1.9913% / 0.01991263 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.2 Irish_Leinster
28.8 German_East_Prussia_Central
9.4 Sardinian
4.6 German_Frisian


Distance to: Petalpusher
0.02321591 French
0.02378273 German_Saarland
0.02448946 French_Normandy
0.02480226 French_Hauts-de-France
0.02499520 Swiss_German
0.02522414 Walloon
0.02553488 French_Northeast
0.02641363 German_Hesse_South
0.02658698 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
0.02662012 French_Brittany
0.02686500 French_East
0.02706096 German_South
0.02758386 German_North_Rhine
0.02780403 Flemish
0.02842827 German_Bavaria_proper
0.02869697 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
0.02953078 Dutch_South
0.02989037 French_Central
0.03029277 German_Baden-Württemberg
0.03075072 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
0.03096339 German_West_Bohemia
0.03187724 English_East
0.03206267 English_East-Midlands
0.03245217 Cornish
0.03264985 English_Southwest

Gallop
05-20-2024, 04:40 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.4252% / 0.01425166
35.6 French_Southwest
31.6 Spanish_Andalucia
17.2 French_South
4.4 Darginian
3.8 Chuvash
3.8 Mozabite
2.0 Sardinian
1.6 Masai

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.9002% / 0.01900215
47.2 French_South
18.8 Spanish_Andalucia
12.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
9.2 Sardinian
5.2 Mozabite
3.4 Armenian_Hemsheni
1.8 Chuvash
1.0 Mende_Sierra_Leone
0.6 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.4 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 1.4647% / 0.01464744
40.8 Spanish_Andalucia
32.0 French_Southwest
11.2 Sardinian
7.6 Ukrainian_Cossack
5.4 Mozabite
1.4 Masai
1.2 Darginian
0.4 Chuvash

ScandinavianCelt
05-20-2024, 04:41 PM
You have two accounts??

No

cass
05-20-2024, 04:56 PM
You have Yemeni distant ancestry?

Nothing that I know of. Either noise or Kuyavian Neolithic remains (which confirms the proximity to the Basque/globular amphora) or unknown Jewish origin.

Gergő Marosvári
05-20-2024, 05:50 PM
OK, that's a really interesting mix... :D

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.7237% / 0.01723720 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.2 Moksha
28.8 German_Lower_Silesia
28.8 Greek_Central
5.0 Brahui
4.2 Russian_Ryazan

Live The Magic
05-21-2024, 08:52 AM
Nothing that I know of. Either noise or Kuyavian Neolithic remains (which confirms the proximity to the Basque/globular amphora) or unknown Jewish origin.

I saw some Balkan Slavs get it as well

Gaditanian
05-21-2024, 12:26 PM
How did you get the Dusun?

Taking in consideration that The Philippines was a territory of Spain for over 300 years, could be some Filipino ancestry that migrated to Spain before the independence.

Ritz06
05-21-2024, 04:31 PM
Target:
Distance: 0.8691% / 0.00869114
27.8 French_Central
14.6 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
12.4 Tabasaran
12.2 Makrani
10.2 Darginian
8.2 German_Frisian
5.8 Armenian_Hemsheni
3.6 Japanese
3.0 Druze
1.4 Faroese
0.8 German_Lower_Saxony_North


Target:
Distance: 1.2200% / 0.01220043 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 German_North_Rhine
28.6 Turkish_Balikesir
10.6 Balochi
9.6 Scottish_East
7.2 Tabasaran
6.2 Darginian

Target:
Distance: 1.6503% / 0.01650291 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.0 Afrikaner
25.4 Turkish_Balikesir
21.4 Darginian
11.2 Turkish_Istanbul

cass
05-21-2024, 06:25 PM
I saw some Balkan Slavs get it as well

This model gives different and strange results every time i run it.

Target: German_East
Distance: 1.0603% / 0.01060258 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
45.0 Scottish_Highlands
39.2 German_Lower_Silesia
9.8 Russian_North
4.4 Finnish_Southwest
1.6 Egyptian

2nd run
Target: German_East
Distance: 1.0640% / 0.01064048 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
39.0 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
27.4 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
17.8 Afrikaner
15.8 Finnish_Southwest


Target: German_East_Prussia_Masuria
Distance: 0.5128% / 0.00512846 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.0 Polish_Sudovia
29.2 German_East_Prussia_Central
20.8 Russian_Smolensk
13.0 Erzya
2.0 Mozabite


Target: Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
Distance: 2.3101% / 0.02310059 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 Lithuanian_2
20.0 Icelandic
17.2 Norwegian_North
14.8 Russian_Kostroma
3.0 Mozabite


Target: PolishL_Kuyavia1
Distance: 1.6326% / 0.01632578 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2 Ukrainian_Cossack
29.8 Polish_North
17.0 German_Lower_Saxony_South
8.8 Albanian_North_Macedonia
2.2 Somali_Kenya

1st run
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8561% / 0.00856108 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 German_Thuringia_Central
30.2 Polish_Sudovia
18.8 German_East_Prussia_Central
2.4 Sindhi
0.8 Yemenite_Mahra

2nd run
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8854% / 0.00885427 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
53.2 German_Saxony
26.8 Polish_Sudovia
16.8 German_East_Prussia_Central
2.6 Sindhi
0.6 Yemenite_Mahra

3rd run
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8335% / 0.00833512 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
61.0 Polish_North
21.8 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
11.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
3.6 Spanish_Canarias
2.2 Sindhi

Scandal
05-21-2024, 06:36 PM
Distance to: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01131794 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.01384763 Slovak_2
0.01395482 Carpathian_Rusyns
0.01516012 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.01526998 Czech_Bohemia
0.01571358 Slovak
0.01703388 Czech
0.01746013 Czech_Moravia
0.01790003 Hungarian
0.01888469 Slovenian

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5266% / 0.00526616 | R3P
69.2 Polish_Wielkopolska
26.2 Romanian_Central
4.6 Egyptian

Live The Magic
05-22-2024, 08:49 AM
This model gives different and strange results every time i run it.

Target: German_East
Distance: 1.0603% / 0.01060258 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
45.0 Scottish_Highlands
39.2 German_Lower_Silesia
9.8 Russian_North
4.4 Finnish_Southwest
1.6 Egyptian

2nd run
Target: German_East
Distance: 1.0640% / 0.01064048 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
39.0 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
27.4 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
17.8 Afrikaner
15.8 Finnish_Southwest


Target: German_East_Prussia_Masuria
Distance: 0.5128% / 0.00512846 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.0 Polish_Sudovia
29.2 German_East_Prussia_Central
20.8 Russian_Smolensk
13.0 Erzya
2.0 Mozabite


Target: Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
Distance: 2.3101% / 0.02310059 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 Lithuanian_2
20.0 Icelandic
17.2 Norwegian_North
14.8 Russian_Kostroma
3.0 Mozabite


Target: PolishL_Kuyavia1
Distance: 1.6326% / 0.01632578 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.2 Ukrainian_Cossack
29.8 Polish_North
17.0 German_Lower_Saxony_South
8.8 Albanian_North_Macedonia
2.2 Somali_Kenya

1st run
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8561% / 0.00856108 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 German_Thuringia_Central
30.2 Polish_Sudovia
18.8 German_East_Prussia_Central
2.4 Sindhi
0.8 Yemenite_Mahra

2nd run
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8854% / 0.00885427 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
53.2 German_Saxony
26.8 Polish_Sudovia
16.8 German_East_Prussia_Central
2.6 Sindhi
0.6 Yemenite_Mahra

3rd run
Target: cass
Distance: 0.8335% / 0.00833512 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x
61.0 Polish_North
21.8 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
11.4 Ukrainian_Cossack
3.6 Spanish_Canarias
2.2 Sindhi

Do you use cycles - 4x in single tab on vahaduo? Its worthwhile to try if you get different results. If it still generates varying results it means there's a population (or two) missing in the model. Or perhaps there are two very similar populations in model, so you'll have to remove one