View Full Version : New Extremely Accurate DNA Traits and Phenotype Predictor!
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 03:06 PM
There's this new DNA traits and phenotype predictor that's better and more detailed than any other one I've seen on the internet, it's the only one that predicted my hair texture accurately, all based solely on your DNA!
https://i.imgur.com/S15YNN0.png
https://i.imgur.com/IxzB552.png
https://i.imgur.com/xAUS7AP.png
https://i.imgur.com/GYWesTE.png
There are also the phenotypes, but keep in mind that I am mixed and it's only based on the DNA for the facial morphology:
https://i.imgur.com/eOmYCtW.png
https://i.imgur.com/h9y5vhk.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/5yhbv75.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/IPT4l06.png
This is the DNAGenics for the hair texture, for example:
https://i.imgur.com/LQwKYy9.png
The pigmentation also seems extremely accurate too and what's interesting is that in most of my light variants in my DNA, I got heterozygous (different makers for each parent) which makes perfect sense.
nittionia
05-22-2024, 03:13 PM
Cool :) where can you find this?
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 03:16 PM
Cool :) where can you find this?
It's around $4 to get the report here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdeHmxEmnUsHVneW00DsGvXq9sSetJuI1KveUeftqZr QpMIJg/viewform).
It tells you a lot of other stuff too, like medical and a lot of other traits, but the phenotype stuff is the most catchy.
djipon
05-22-2024, 03:30 PM
I've watched the guy who made this a few times on YouTube - seems like a cool guy and posts really interesting videos for different ancient and modern samples!
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 03:45 PM
I've watched the guy who made this a few times on YouTube - seems like a cool guy and posts really interesting videos for different ancient and modern samples!
Yes, it's very cool! Especially with the ancient samples.
nittionia
05-22-2024, 03:56 PM
Does he have a service for ancestry reports?
Melkiirs
05-22-2024, 04:37 PM
Here is my eye color result from AndreiDNA:
https://i.ibb.co/qJYDQVq/548-E5594-2-C57-444-D-BEDF-7-CDC207-FB131.jpg (https://ibb.co/QDvJwtS)
https://i.ibb.co/7gqydsz/EF9-CD5-A8-C7-A7-4275-AE32-E33-EE3551502.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
My left eye is entirely blue/grey although I have a minor streak of amber over the pupil on my right eye. Definitely not a full ring but it is still apparent under close inspection. This prediction is more accurate than AncestryDNA which uses far fewer SNPs as it predicts me as most likely hazel instead of brown or dark. Still I am clearly much lighter eyed than expected based on my genotype for related SNPs.
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 04:37 PM
Does he have a service for ancestry reports?
The repot in question has an (unnacurate experimental) ancestry report, but I don't recommend buying only for the ancestry stuff, apart from that, no.
https://i.imgur.com/FWtp0vE.png
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 04:42 PM
Here is my eye color result from AndreiDNA:
https://i.ibb.co/qJYDQVq/548-E5594-2-C57-444-D-BEDF-7-CDC207-FB131.jpg (https://ibb.co/QDvJwtS)
https://i.ibb.co/7gqydsz/EF9-CD5-A8-C7-A7-4275-AE32-E33-EE3551502.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
My left eye is entirely blue/grey although I have a minor streak of amber over the pupil on my right eye. Definitely not a full ring but it is still apparent under close inspection. This prediction is more accurate than AncestryDNA which uses far fewer SNPs as it predicts me as most likely hazel instead of brown or dark. Still I am clearly much lighter eyed than expected based on my genotype for related SNPs.
Very interesting, have you seen the OCA2-HERC2 eyecolor calculator prediction, too?
Melkiirs
05-22-2024, 05:01 PM
Very interesting, have you seen the OCA2-HERC2 eyecolor calculator prediction, too?
Here:
https://i.ibb.co/7QzBrHg/OCA2-HERC2.png (https://ibb.co/zF5CP18)
My phenotype is clearly on the lighter end of the eye color spectrum. At least I am predicted to be intermediate with this tool rather than dark as with AncestryDNA.
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 05:09 PM
Here:
https://i.ibb.co/7QzBrHg/OCA2-HERC2.png (https://ibb.co/zF5CP18)
My phenotype is clearly on the lighter end of the eye color spectrum. At least I am predicted to be intermediate with this tool rather than dark as with AncestryDNA.
Interesting... I got a similar score there as well, which kind of makes sense, since my dad has green eyes, but still interesting that we got a similar score, nonetheless,
https://i.imgur.com/Rg20kJx.png
Melkiirs
05-22-2024, 05:16 PM
Interesting... I got a similar score there as well, which kind of makes sense, since my dad has green eyes, but still interesting that we got a similar score, nonetheless,
Your eye color is actually hazel correct?
In my case there are probably other SNPs with a more minor impact not fully represented. Eventually predictions will probably become more consistently accurate.
lei.talk
05-22-2024, 05:19 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/icons/icon5.png any one miss this banned poster — seems knowledgeable
(any factual errors in any of his many videos)
https://i.imgur.com/xmLF8Wr.png (https://www.youtube.com/@-andreiDNA)https://i.imgur.com/u7leimb.png
Melkiirs
05-22-2024, 05:41 PM
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Who was he on TA? I noticed he has some potential factual inaccuracies, but otherwise appears well-meaning.
For example he suggested that the modern Samaritans are representative of historical Israelite pigmentation in this video. In reality population bottleneck obviously had an influence on the Samaritan phenotype:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8vqsrjo1d0
I'm sure there are other examples that I have not encountered yet. I have not been able to make out any agenda as of yet and he seems to be open to feedback, so I can't judge.
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 05:59 PM
Your eye color is actually hazel correct?
In my case there are probably other SNPs with a more minor impact not fully represented. Eventually predictions will probably become more consistently accurate.
No, my actual eye color is brown (the AI image on my avatar is pretty accurate) and that's probably because of it's high dominance over other colors, since I have many heterozygous DNA variants:
https://i.imgur.com/cGjLyZo.png
https://i.imgur.com/PCfgPkS.png
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 06:00 PM
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Interesting that he was on TA, his videos seem overall accurate and have gotten more accurate as the time has passed, especially his european origins videos (he has three of them).
Is there anything about iq ?
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 06:50 PM
Is there anything about iq ?
IQ, HIV, Lifespan, Autism, MPB, dwarfism, Obesity, Blood Pressure, Sexal Hormones, etc.
Melkiirs
05-22-2024, 07:19 PM
Is there anything about iq ?
Check these three SNPs:
rs28379706
rs324640
rs12202969
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 07:32 PM
Check these three SNPs:
rs28379706
rs324640
rs12202969
Isn't this related to bipolar disorder? I didn't know it had something to do with IQ.
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 07:36 PM
I think i'll buy it
Melkiirs
05-22-2024, 07:44 PM
Isn't this related to bipolar disorder? I didn't know it had something to do with IQ.
The alternative allele A is associated with both increased risk of bipolar disorder and higher cognitive ability due to strong LD with other closely related SNPs.
"Around the same time, a GWAS of 9,747 Caucasian BD patients and 14,278 controls identified a novel risk locus at the same intergenic region8. The lead SNP, rs12202969, was associated with ∼10-20% increased risk for BD. Another GWAS study of BD confirmed this signal10. A third GWAS of 9,784 Caucasian BD patients and 30,471 controls pinpointed the proxy variant rs1487441 (r2 = 0.98 with rs12202969)9. We observed that the two BD GWAS lead SNPs (rs12202969 and rs1487441) were in high LD with the lead SNPs in the GWAS’s of educational attainment and cognition (rs9320913, rs1906252, and rs104757441) (pairwise r2 = 0.92-0.99), suggesting a shared genetic basis for cognitive performance and BD (Table S1). Intriguingly, the variants associated with enhanced cognitive performance were associated with increased BD risk, consistent with the finding that children with higher IQs are at higher risk for developing manic features"
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/580258v2.full
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 07:54 PM
I think i'll buy it
I recommend contacting his email before buying it just to be 100% sure, if you're going to buy the report :thumb001:
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 07:55 PM
I recommend contacting his email before buying it just to be 100% sure, if you're going to buy the report :thumb001:
Ahh okay thank you!
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 10:18 PM
I have already sent it to him via email now i'll wait for the results :)
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 11:10 PM
The repot in question has an (unnacurate experimental) ancestry report, but I don't recommend buying only for the ancestry stuff, apart from that, no.
I already got my results, it has it's own coordinates but my results...
Target: Beowulf
Distance: 0.0022% / 0.00224277
49.2 Ukrainian
18.4 Kievan_Rus_Sunghir6
17.5 French_2
6.0 Hajj_Firuz_BA_I4243
4.9 Azerbaijan_Neolithic
4.0 NorthItalian
XD
<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf
0.00574145
French_2
0.00653139
Bailuliai_Lithuania_MA
0.00797226
Kievan_Rus_Sunghir6
0.00899713
Ukrainian
0.00983180
Finnish
0.01032529
North_Germanic
0.01081004
NorthItalian
0.01181222
British_n=7
0.01183414
Russians_modern
0.01207442
Slavic_Himera_Merc
0.01215327
Funnelbeaker_ansarve
0.01217731
Spanish
0.01223721
French
0.01233584
Bell_Beaker
0.01266567
Ukraine_Lutsk_Izjaslav_Ingvarevych
0.01318129
Bulgarian
0.01438628
Bell_Beaker_Britain
0.01461560
Jewish_Ashkenazi
0.01558646
Globular_Amphora_Culture
0.01602105
Corded_Ware_Gyvakarai1
0.01629884
Spiginas2_CordedWare
0.01683429
Turkic_Caspian_Steppe_DA142
0.01727582
Volga_Oka_IA(Meryans)
0.01736654
Anatolia_IA_Luwian
0.01879526
Livonian_Medieval_Estonia
</tbody>
French_2 + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0054
French_2 + French_2 ------ 0.0057
Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval + Kievan Rus, Sunghir 6 ------ 0.0061
French_2 + Kievan Rus, Sunghir 6 ------ 0.0063
Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0065
French_2 + Finnish ------ 0.0072
North_Germanic + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0072
Finnish + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0075
NorthItalian + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0075
French_2 + Russians_modern ------ 0.0076
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 11:13 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/J0nRKnhj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011208.png (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/qRQk8npk/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011225.png (https://postimages.org/)
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 11:20 PM
Check these three SNPs:
rs28379706
rs324640
rs12202969
these?
https://i.postimg.cc/d37zLT1N/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011930.png (https://postimages.org/)
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 11:48 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/J0nRKnhj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011208.png (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/qRQk8npk/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011225.png (https://postimages.org/)
Can you show your MC1R variants?
Dantevici
05-22-2024, 11:48 PM
Check these three SNPs:
rs28379706
rs324640
rs12202969
Interesting.
rs28379706 C/C
rs324640 G/G
rs12202969 A/G
I also have this;
rs6994992 T/T
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 11:50 PM
Can you show your MC1R variants?
MC1R - rs1805006 0
MC1R - rs1805007 0
MC1R - rs1805008 0
MC1R - rs1805009 0
MC1R - rs11547464 1
MC1R - rs1805005 0
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 11:57 PM
I already got my results, it has it's own coordinates but my results...
Target: Beowulf
Distance: 0.0022% / 0.00224277
49.2 Ukrainian
18.4 Kievan_Rus_Sunghir6
17.5 French_2
6.0 Hajj_Firuz_BA_I4243
4.9 Azerbaijan_Neolithic
4.0 NorthItalian
XD
<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf
0.00574145
French_2
0.00653139
Bailuliai_Lithuania_MA
0.00797226
Kievan_Rus_Sunghir6
0.00899713
Ukrainian
0.00983180
Finnish
0.01032529
North_Germanic
0.01081004
NorthItalian
0.01181222
British_n=7
0.01183414
Russians_modern
0.01207442
Slavic_Himera_Merc
0.01215327
Funnelbeaker_ansarve
0.01217731
Spanish
0.01223721
French
0.01233584
Bell_Beaker
0.01266567
Ukraine_Lutsk_Izjaslav_Ingvarevych
0.01318129
Bulgarian
0.01438628
Bell_Beaker_Britain
0.01461560
Jewish_Ashkenazi
0.01558646
Globular_Amphora_Culture
0.01602105
Corded_Ware_Gyvakarai1
0.01629884
Spiginas2_CordedWare
0.01683429
Turkic_Caspian_Steppe_DA142
0.01727582
Volga_Oka_IA(Meryans)
0.01736654
Anatolia_IA_Luwian
0.01879526
Livonian_Medieval_Estonia
</tbody>
French_2 + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0054
French_2 + French_2 ------ 0.0057
Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval + Kievan Rus, Sunghir 6 ------ 0.0061
French_2 + Kievan Rus, Sunghir 6 ------ 0.0063
Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0065
French_2 + Finnish ------ 0.0072
North_Germanic + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0072
Finnish + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0075
NorthItalian + Bailuliai Lithuania Medieval ------ 0.0075
French_2 + Russians_modern ------ 0.0076
Target: Sample_Upload
Distance: 0.2784% / 0.00278351
39.8 Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
24.6 Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533
20.8 Turkish
11.4 Cottes_Neanderthal
2.4 Vindija_Neanderthal
1.0 South_Asian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Sample_Upload
0.00589288
Berber_R10770
0.01027912
Egypt_Pre_Ptolemaic_JK2134_lowquality
0.01045345
Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12534
0.01296741
Natufian_I1072
0.01387608
Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533
0.01414010
Salkhit_Mongolia_UP
0.01458650
BMAC
0.01488216
KRD003_Levant_Chalcolithic
0.01620963
Taforalt_TAF010
0.01725154
Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
0.01880292
Himera_Kavkaz_Merc
0.02175646
Bactrians
0.02220368
Anzick_Amerindian
0.02232604
Goyet-Q116
0.02252510
Botai_HG_KZ_BOT15
0.02254244
Roopkund_Indian
0.02272368
African_American_1
0.02294479
ONGE_Jarawa_JAR61
0.02347412
WLH4_AustralianNative
0.02359241
South_Asian
0.02362417
Erfurt_Jew
0.02368163
Shahr_i_Sukhteh_BA2
0.02389082
Afghan_Medieval
0.02403590
Taforalt_TAF011
0.02408087
Kavkaz_Medieval_Anapa
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Sample_Upload
0.00360497
51.00% African_American_1 + 49.00% South_Asian
0.00391683
46.20% Shum_Laka_5771calBCE + 53.80% Turkish
0.00393615
25.20% Shum_Laka_5771calBCE + 74.80% Natufian_I1072
0.00395643
12.80% Cottes_Neanderthal + 87.20% Natufian_I1072
0.00400342
65.80% Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533 + 34.20% Velikent_Kavkaz
0.00408757
77.20% Natufian_I1072 + 22.80% Mota_Ethiopian_HG
0.00411331
21.40% Khoi_SanHG + 78.60% Natufian_I1072
0.00414308
56.00% Natufian_I1072 + 44.00% Taforalt_TAF010
0.00424378
51.60% Taforalt_TAF010 + 48.40% Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
0.00426821
65.00% Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533 + 35.00% Egypt_Ptolemaic_JK2888_lowquality
</tbody>
Eurafricanid
05-22-2024, 11:58 PM
MC1R - rs1805006 0
MC1R - rs1805007 0
MC1R - rs1805008 0
MC1R - rs1805009 0
MC1R - rs11547464 1
MC1R - rs1805005 0
Do you know what that means? :rolleyes:
Beowulf
05-22-2024, 11:59 PM
Target: Sample_Upload
Distance: 0.2784% / 0.00278351
39.8 Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
24.6 Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533
20.8 Turkish
11.4 Cottes_Neanderthal
2.4 Vindija_Neanderthal
1.0 South_Asian
<tbody>
Distance to:
Sample_Upload
0.00589288
Berber_R10770
0.01027912
Egypt_Pre_Ptolemaic_JK2134_lowquality
0.01045345
Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12534
0.01296741
Natufian_I1072
0.01387608
Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533
0.01414010
Salkhit_Mongolia_UP
0.01458650
BMAC
0.01488216
KRD003_Levant_Chalcolithic
0.01620963
Taforalt_TAF010
0.01725154
Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
0.01880292
Himera_Kavkaz_Merc
0.02175646
Bactrians
0.02220368
Anzick_Amerindian
0.02232604
Goyet-Q116
0.02252510
Botai_HG_KZ_BOT15
0.02254244
Roopkund_Indian
0.02272368
African_American_1
0.02294479
ONGE_Jarawa_JAR61
0.02347412
WLH4_AustralianNative
0.02359241
South_Asian
0.02362417
Erfurt_Jew
0.02368163
Shahr_i_Sukhteh_BA2
0.02389082
Afghan_Medieval
0.02403590
Taforalt_TAF011
0.02408087
Kavkaz_Medieval_Anapa
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Sample_Upload
0.00360497
51.00% African_American_1 + 49.00% South_Asian
0.00391683
46.20% Shum_Laka_5771calBCE + 53.80% Turkish
0.00393615
25.20% Shum_Laka_5771calBCE + 74.80% Natufian_I1072
0.00395643
12.80% Cottes_Neanderthal + 87.20% Natufian_I1072
0.00400342
65.80% Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533 + 34.20% Velikent_Kavkaz
0.00408757
77.20% Natufian_I1072 + 22.80% Mota_Ethiopian_HG
0.00411331
21.40% Khoi_SanHG + 78.60% Natufian_I1072
0.00414308
56.00% Natufian_I1072 + 44.00% Taforalt_TAF010
0.00424378
51.60% Taforalt_TAF010 + 48.40% Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
0.00426821
65.00% Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533 + 35.00% Egypt_Ptolemaic_JK2888_lowquality
</tbody>
i guess i'll have to larp as a slav now :p
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 12:01 AM
Do you know what that means? :rolleyes:
Of course
https://i.postimg.cc/nV0Wt2dF/dgmp6ac-5f8e7ef9-57e3-4a40-8c66-907c1d1dae83.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Eurafricanid
05-23-2024, 12:02 AM
i guess i'll have to larp as a slav now :p
And me as a Neanderthal, ooga booga!
Target: Sample_Upload
Distance: 0.2784% / 0.00278351
39.8 Algerian_(CouscousNomad)
24.6 Kenya_Pastorialist_Neolithic_I12533
20.8 Turkish
11.4 Cottes_Neanderthal
2.4 Vindija_Neanderthal
1.0 South_Asian
Solitude
05-23-2024, 12:16 AM
Do you know what that means? :rolleyes:
I have that also in my 23andme but i dont know what would be that
https://i.postimg.cc/CKSf410L/Screenshot-20240523-011339-Chrome.jpg
Eurafricanid
05-23-2024, 12:21 AM
I have that also in my 23andme but i dont know what would be that
https://i.postimg.cc/CKSf410L/Screenshot-20240523-011339-Chrome.jpg
The genes in the MC1R are the Ginger genes.
Solitude
05-23-2024, 12:25 AM
Interesting , thanks for this information
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 12:27 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/J0nRKnhj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011208.png (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/qRQk8npk/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011225.png (https://postimages.org/)
What appears to be the case is that you are predicted so high for black hair that carrying a strong R variant (R142H) minimally elevated your red hair predication. For comparison I only carry one copy of the weak r variant V60L and am already at 0.592% for red hair. Given my other pigmentation variants and an MC1R with one copy of R142H and no V60L the predication would be 5.138%.
This is a very interesting case. Could you please share your skin pigmentation predication as well along with your genotype for the SLC45A2 variant rs16891982? If you are C;C for that variant you have a 7x greater chance of black hair as a European according to Snpedia. Hair color is polygenic but rs16891982 is very well studied so if you have the non-European genotype your prediction makes sense.
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 12:32 AM
these?
https://i.postimg.cc/d37zLT1N/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011930.png (https://postimages.org/)
Those are three IQ related SNPs. rs12202969 is another listed under bipolar instead.
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 12:41 AM
What appears to be the case is that you are predicted so high for black hair that carrying a strong R variant (R142H) minimally elevated your red hair predication. For comparison I only carry one copy of the weak r variant V60L and am already at 0.592% for red hair. Given my other pigmentation variants and an MC1R with one copy of R142H and no V60L the predication would be 5.138%.
This is a very interesting case. Could you please share your skin pigmentation predication as well along with your genotype for the SLC45A2 variant rs16891982? If you are C;C for that variant you have a 7x greater chance of black hair as a European according to Snpedia. Hair color is polygenic but rs16891982 is very well studied so if you have the non-European genotype your prediction makes sense.
https://i.postimg.cc/NjHBNF6w/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-023931.png (https://postimages.org/)
rs16891982 SNP doesn't appear for me
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 12:45 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/NjHBNF6w/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-023931.png (https://postimages.org/)
SLC45A2 - rs28777 1
SLC45A2 - rs16891982 999
SLC45A2 - rs28117 1
~SLC45A2 - rs4049255 1
~SLC45A2 - rs35401 1
Your rs16891982 SNP is not genotyped!!!??? Could you check your 23&me raw data directly for me? That is one of the most important pigmentation SNPs of all so the situation is very strange.
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 12:45 AM
Your rs16891982 SNP is not genotyped!!!??? Could you check your 23&me raw data directly for me? That is one of the most pigmentation SNPs of all so the situation is very strange.
i don't have 23 and Me
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 12:47 AM
i don't have 23 and Me
Where does your raw data come from then? I thought you tested with 23&me?
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 12:47 AM
Where does your raw data come from then? I thought you tested with 23&me?
FTDNA
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 12:52 AM
FTDNA
My mistake. I'm shocked FamilyTreeDNA did not genotype that SNP. Could you check you raw data file? I might have to reach out to Andrei about issues with FamilyTreeDNA raw data.
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 12:53 AM
My mistake. I'm shocked FamilyTreeDNA did not genotype that SNP. Could you check you raw data file? I might have to reach out to Andrei about issues with FamilyTreeDNA raw data.
I did have checked my raw data and yeah it isn't genotypized.
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 01:04 AM
I did have checked my raw data and yeah it isn't genotypized.
OK, it might have just been a normal error in an unlucky position. With AncestryDNA raw data SNPs that were not determined use a "0" instead of a base letter and FTDNA should use a similar placeholder. For example from my file:
https://i.ibb.co/GFKdJ8s/undetermined.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Change rs16891982 to G;G which is the strong majority across Europe and then maybe your phenotype results will be much more accurate.
calxpal
05-23-2024, 01:38 AM
Hi I've tried this tool as well, it's a neat tool but I have to be honest some of my trait predictions on it were super far off from reality especially some of the phenotypes it assigned me in the oracle. I still like the tool though. The eye color prediction for me was very good though. The ancestry report for me was unfortunately extremely inaccurate, but it was neat to try. I hope the tool gets some good updates.
Eurafricanid
05-23-2024, 01:46 AM
OK, it might have just been a normal error in an unlucky position. With AncestryDNA raw data SNPs that were not determined use a "0" instead of a base letter and FTDNA should use a similar placeholder. For example from my file:
https://i.ibb.co/GFKdJ8s/undetermined.png (https://imgbb.com/)
Change rs16891982 to G;G which is essentially fixed in Europe and then maybe your phenotype results will be much more accurate.
So all europeans have 2 light aleles for that SNP? mine's heterozygous :thumb001:
https://i.imgur.com/6ah4dYf.png
Eurafricanid
05-23-2024, 01:48 AM
Hi I've tried this tool as well, it's a neat tool but I have to be honest some of my trait predictions on it were super far off from reality especially some of the phenotypes it assigned me in the oracle. I still like the tool though. The eye color prediction for me was very good though. The ancestry report for me was unfortunately extremely inaccurate, but it was neat to try. I hope the tool gets some good updates.
The ancestry report is extremely innacurate for everyone, lol.
calxpal
05-23-2024, 01:51 AM
The ancestry report is extremely innacurate for everyone, lol.
Yeah from what I saw I think you're right, it's kind of amusing lol :):bounce
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 02:11 AM
So all europeans have 2 light aleles for that SNP? mine's heterozygous :thumb001:
https://i.imgur.com/6ah4dYf.png
A;A is nearly fixed for rs1426654 in Europeans which is on the same gene as rs16891982 my mistake. In Finns where the the G allele is most frequent among Europeans it is still about 98% A;A.
rs16891982 is majority G;G throughout Europe, but not near fixed in Southern Europe. In Bulgarians according to gnomAD 2.1.1 it is still about 75% G;G. It's a fair assumption to make that Beowulf is also G;G.
You are also mixed race which could make a heterozygous genotype more likely.
Eurafricanid
05-23-2024, 02:23 AM
A;A is nearly fixed for rs1426654 in Europeans which is on the same gene as rs16891982 my mistake. In Finns where the the G allele is most frequent among Europeans it is still about 98% A;A.
rs16891982 is majority G;G throughout Europe, but not near fixed in Southern Europe. In Bulgarians according to gnomAD 2.1.1 it is still about 75% G;G. It's a fair assumption to make that Beowulf is also G;G.
You are also mixed race which could make a heterozygous genotype more likely.
Yeah, I'm also heterozygous on this one:
SLC24A5 - rs1426654 1
I'm heterozygous in most of the SNPs, lol.
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 09:24 PM
I did have checked my raw data and yeah it isn't genotypized.
Do you have the executable file so you can rerun the phenotype prediction? I do, but you reached out to Andrei for the results instead?
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 09:30 PM
Do you have the executable file so you can rerun the phenotype prediction? I do, but you reached out to Andrei for the results instead?
I contacted with him via email and we did everything there.
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 09:37 PM
I contacted with him via email and we did everything there.
Was it a free demonstration? It you paid $24.99 USD you should be able to download the predictor as well.
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 09:38 PM
Was it a free test run? It you paid $24.99 USD you should be able to download the predictor as well.
I paid 4 USD for my results
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 09:49 PM
I paid 4 USD for my results
He very recently (as in yesterday) increased the price. I paid $13 on itch to download an earlier version.
Beowulf
05-23-2024, 09:54 PM
He very recently (as in yesterday) increased the price. I paid $13 on itch to download an earlier version.
LoL i have been very lucky then.. maybe it was becuse he updated the tool?
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 10:00 PM
LoL i have been very lucky then.. maybe it was becuse he updated the tool?
You did not download the tool but payed for a single report at $4. Check your PM.
Avicenna
05-23-2024, 11:12 PM
Yes it's done by Andrei DNA on YouTube
Melkiirs
05-23-2024, 11:35 PM
Yes it's done by Andrei DNA on YouTube
Did you get results from the predictor yet?
Flashball
05-24-2024, 06:11 AM
Here is my eye color result from AndreiDNA:
My left eye is entirely blue/grey although I have a minor streak of amber over the pupil on my right eye. Definitely not a full ring but it is still apparent under close inspection. This prediction is more accurate than AncestryDNA which uses far fewer SNPs as it predicts me as most likely hazel instead of brown or dark. Still I am clearly much lighter eyed than expected based on my genotype for related SNPs.
Percentages should be seen as probabilities, not as "11% blue eyes? but I have blue eyes! that's not a good prediction!"
This is not a crystal ball tool.
For example, having 11% “intermediate” blue eyes is quite significant also.
My brother has light brown eyes in reality and only has a +10% probability of having "medium" brown eyes (not dark), however this is not contradictory with his results from his raw data of nebula which contain all the Snps (unlike 23andme and other).
Here are the results of my parents (23andme), my sister (23andme), my brother (nebula) and me (nebula)
Look at the bar
My father's eye color is closer to a darker end of the likely color bar but he could still have had eyes in the lighter range of the bar!
You can also see that my mother's eye color corresponds to two or three parts (central heterochromia) of the probable color bar
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/21/5/1716530995-couleurdeyeux2.jpg
My results:
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/21/5/1716530957-eyespredictionvscolor2.jpg
Mortimer
05-24-2024, 06:36 AM
Just ordered the report...
Mortimer
05-24-2024, 08:26 AM
There's this new DNA traits and phenotype predictor that's better and more detailed than any other one I've seen on the internet, it's the only one that predicted my hair texture accurately, all based solely on your DNA!
https://i.imgur.com/S15YNN0.png
https://i.imgur.com/IxzB552.png
https://i.imgur.com/xAUS7AP.png
https://i.imgur.com/GYWesTE.png
There are also the phenotypes, but keep in mind that I am mixed and it's only based on the DNA for the facial morphology:
https://i.imgur.com/eOmYCtW.png
https://i.imgur.com/h9y5vhk.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/5yhbv75.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/IPT4l06.png
This is the DNAGenics for the hair texture, for example:
https://i.imgur.com/LQwKYy9.png
The pigmentation also seems extremely accurate too and what's interesting is that in most of my light variants in my DNA, I got heterozygous (different makers for each parent) which makes perfect sense.
This looks extremely cool. I will post my report when i get it emailed.
Avicenna
05-24-2024, 08:31 AM
Did you get results from the predictor yet?
Nope, I just watch his videos regarding the ancient samples
Melkiirs
05-24-2024, 11:31 AM
Percentages should be seen as probabilities, not as "11% blue eyes? but I have blue eyes! that's not a good prediction!"
This is not a crystal ball tool.
For example, having 11% “intermediate” blue eyes is quite significant also.
My brother has light brown eyes in reality and only has a +10% probability of having "medium" brown eyes (not dark), however this is not contradictory with his results from his raw data of nebula which contain all the Snps (unlike 23andme and other).
My predication with AndreiDNA would probably have been higher for blue (not just 0.31%) if I used data from complete genomics testing. The prediction is an improvement from AncestryDNA Traits due to factoring in more SNPs present in the raw data, but the results are still less expected than the case for most other users. My eyes are approximately pure light so my phenotype here is definitely blue, not blue with amber center. Even with your mother 2.659% blue with amber center which appears to be her phenotype from that photo is much higher than 0.31% blue in my case. As far as eye color predictions for modern samples go I am very likely an outlier and even Balckagloop on Anthrogenica Refugium was quite surprised. For context I am predicted even more likely to have red hair (0.592%) than blue eyes despite just carrying one copy of weak r variant V60L, a genotype which would almost never lead to red hair. Eye color is more polygenic so predictors vary much more depending on the range of SNPs considered.
Could you also post the OCA2-HERC2 genotype eye color distributions? I'm curious as to how they compare.
Mortimer
05-24-2024, 02:33 PM
https://i.ibb.co/YRH7x3L/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-30-52-887-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/znqhzr4)
https://i.ibb.co/16JGv2X/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-29-07-779-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/zJHVnf2)
https://i.ibb.co/cXKBFt0/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-28-50-066-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/BKHpZjb)
https://i.ibb.co/z42RKK3/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-28-25-485-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/6WtP66K)
https://i.ibb.co/P4ML9gm/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-28-06-825-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/S0cjdBs)
https://i.ibb.co/Z1JHbsh/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-28-35-830-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/yBRhxT8)
https://i.ibb.co/SfXWRmB/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-24-52-961-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/DrDs5MQ)
Mortimer
05-24-2024, 02:45 PM
https://i.ibb.co/yPYdsxk/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-43-26-507-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/H4xBg9P)
sacha
05-26-2024, 03:52 AM
I purchased this awhile ago to support the creator, it's improved for sure but has some inaccuracies (as is expected)
https://i.ibb.co/PZDfSg7/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/GVHP8sJ/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/NNtVmmg/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/D1mrcs9/image.png
https://i.ibb.co/HT14ppK/image.png
Nice to see a Linux ver as well
sacha
05-26-2024, 05:34 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/J0nRKnhj/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011208.png (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/qRQk8npk/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-23-011225.png (https://postimages.org/)
Very bizarre you’re only getting <1% but I’m getting ~5% for red hair. Guess you better go dye it xd No but I do suspect some things are over/underemphasized with this methodology
Mortimer
05-26-2024, 05:37 AM
Very bizarre you’re only getting <1% but I’m getting ~5% for red hair. Guess you better go dye it xd No but I do suspect some things are over/underemphasized with this methodology
His score for hair color is very bizzare and wrong. Mine seems ok, maybe im rather black haired then dark brown haired though? But nearly hundred percent for dark brown/black hair combined? Sometimes its hard to tell truly black hair from dark brown hair apart?
https://i.ibb.co/r604kvc/phenotypepredictorandrejpigmentation.jpg (https://ibb.co/xjLJh3f)
https://i.ibb.co/6493b1x/phenotypepredictorandrejpigmentation2.jpg (https://ibb.co/2jVDPsQ)
Mortimer
05-26-2024, 05:38 AM
I think it is getting better and better i cant imagine such things in 2010 for example, and i guess you get better results if you have whole genome tested, not only certain SNPs like with 23andme or ancestry.dna
Both eye and hair predictions aren't accurate imo.
I had light brown hair as a kid and dark brown hair now, which doesn't fit my results. Same thing for eye color.
Melkiirs
05-26-2024, 04:45 PM
Very bizarre you’re only getting <1% but I’m getting ~5% for red hair. Guess you better go dye it xd No but I do suspect some things are over/underemphasized with this methodology
Beowulf was not genotyped for the very important pigmentation SNP rs16891982. With that set to the standard European genotype G;G, these are his results for the earlier v12 predictor I had downloaded:
https://i.ibb.co/RSRCVvv/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-25-205729.png (https://ibb.co/FWRBjxx)
https://i.ibb.co/bv0k7xT/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-25-210631.png (https://ibb.co/6tMkN2z)
With the wild type C;C genotype at rs16891982 the chances of black hair are as much as 7x higher and predisposition to lighter hair pigmentation significantly increases likelihood of red hair with this predictor. That is why is initial prediction before the genotype was filled in was so low.
The other relevant SNPs he was not genotyped for have significantly more variation in Europe, so I could only speculate.
Eurafricanid
05-28-2024, 12:24 AM
Beowulf was not genotyped for the very important pigmentation SNP rs16891982. With that set to the standard European genotype G;G, these are his results for the earlier v12 predictor I had downloaded:
https://i.ibb.co/RSRCVvv/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-25-205729.png (https://ibb.co/FWRBjxx)
https://i.ibb.co/bv0k7xT/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-25-210631.png (https://ibb.co/6tMkN2z)
With the wild type C;C genotype at rs16891982 the chances of black hair are as much as 7x higher and predisposition to lighter hair pigmentation significantly increases likelihood of red hair with this predictor. That is why is initial prediction before the genotype was filled in was so low.
The other relevant SNPs he was not genotyped for have significantly more variation in Europe, so I could only speculate.
Yeah, the quality of the Raw data is also very important!
Grace O'Malley
05-28-2024, 09:30 AM
Here are my results
https://i.ibb.co/mF82rVS/Andrei-Eyecolourpredictor.png
https://i.ibb.co/Tc1qVcb/Andrei-Eye-Colour2.png
https://i.ibb.co/QvncVRg/Andrei-Hair-Colourpredictor.png
https://i.ibb.co/pXcHXH6/Andrei-Hair-Texture.png
https://i.ibb.co/1dPpC4Z/Andrei-Nose-Shape.png
https://i.ibb.co/yVcjf82/Andrei-Skin-Colour-Predictor.png
https://i.ibb.co/vDmPtMs/Andrei-Phenotype1.png
https://i.ibb.co/1sFNN4M/Andrei-Phenotype2.png
https://i.ibb.co/bQFssCx/Andrei-Phenotype3.png
https://i.ibb.co/j3hCN7M/Andrei-Phenotype4.png
https://i.ibb.co/zbxP1Lz/Andrei-Face-Shape1.png
Grace O'Malley
05-28-2024, 11:26 AM
Just bumping this up with a picture of my eye and hair colour.
https://i.ibb.co/sKtWQsy/Eyecolour3.png
Natural hair colour in early 20s.
https://i.ibb.co/TB1cn7j/hairmiriam.png
Coastal Elite
05-29-2024, 02:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kCyafxE.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/QI97AAW.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/hzbiDPQ.jpeg
Melkiirs
05-29-2024, 02:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kCyafxE.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/QI97AAW.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/hzbiDPQ.jpeg
Post pigmentation as well please?
Beowulf
05-29-2024, 02:43 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/gcDZDstC/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-05-29-044244.png (https://postimages.org/)
Coastal Elite
05-29-2024, 04:08 AM
Post pigmentation as well please?
https://i.imgur.com/XYEjTau.jpeg
https://youtu.be/Be5R10zTbMY?si=HPJmSv7nb-w-hdRY
Mortimer
05-29-2024, 05:05 AM
https://i.ibb.co/Z1JHbsh/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-28-35-830-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/yBRhxT8)
https://i.ibb.co/SfXWRmB/Screenshot-2024-05-24-16-24-52-961-com-android-chrome.jpg (https://ibb.co/DrDs5MQ)
I made a mistake, i didnt figured out that there are some who are higher percent probability then some others, i randomly posted a phenotype morphology oracle
here is the one which is for me the highest probability, the others are less... though... i think its still not much, because Grace gets 66.7% highest i get only 45%
https://youtu.be/pktnkxJYQMU
Looks like the Chaddiest
https://i.ibb.co/8X0MtQy/phenotypepredictormorphologyoracletop.jpg (https://ibb.co/st2jzXT)
Eurafricanid
05-29-2024, 05:16 AM
I made a mistake, i didnt figured out that there are some who are higher percent probability then some others, i randomly posted a phenotype morphology oracle
here is the one which is for me the highest probability, the others are less... though... i think its still not much, because Grace gets 66.7% highest i get only 45%
https://youtu.be/pktnkxJYQMU
Looks like the Chaddiest
https://i.ibb.co/8X0MtQy/phenotypepredictormorphologyoracletop.jpg (https://ibb.co/st2jzXT)
This one is to represent Baltics, the order is:
SSA - Amerindian - East Asian - Baltic - Middle Eastern (Mediterranean) - Northwestern European - South Asian - Oceanian.
Melkiirs
05-29-2024, 04:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/XYEjTau.jpeg
https://youtu.be/Be5R10zTbMY?si=HPJmSv7nb-w-hdRY
What about hair/eyes?
Mortimer
05-31-2024, 06:28 AM
Thank you very much, can you give a short summary only of what you said about my eye color again
GPT
Sure! Here's a short summary of the analysis of your eye color:
Your eye color is a consistent medium brown.
The color appears uniform with no significant flecks of other colors.
In different lighting conditions, your eye color remains within the medium brown range, showing a rich, warm tone.
This shade of brown is common among many populations, including those of Eastern European and Roma descent.
Thank you can you also give a analysis of my eye shape and where it is most common
GPT
Certainly! Based on the close-up images you provided, here's an analysis of your eye shape and where it is most commonly found:
Eye Shape Analysis:
Shape:
Your eyes appear to be almond-shaped, which is characterized by a slightly pointed inner corner and a more rounded outer corner.
The upper and lower eyelids create a smooth curve, giving the eyes a slightly elongated look.
Eyelid Structure:
You have a visible eyelid crease, which is common among many populations.
The eyelid fold is not particularly prominent, indicating a typical European eyelid structure.
Common Regions for Almond-Shaped Eyes:
Mediterranean Region:
Almond-shaped eyes are commonly found among people from Southern Europe, including countries like Italy, Greece, and Spain.
This eye shape is also prevalent in the Middle Eastern populations, where it is often accompanied by dark hair and medium to olive skin tones.
Eastern Europe:
Many Eastern European populations, including those in Romania, Hungary, and the Balkans, also have almond-shaped eyes.
This shape is typical among both Slavic and Roma populations in these regions.
Middle East:
Almond-shaped eyes are widespread in Middle Eastern countries, such as Turkey, Lebanon, and Iran.
These regions often share genetic traits with Mediterranean populations due to historical interactions and migrations.
South Asia:
In South Asia, almond-shaped eyes are common among people in India, Pakistan, and surrounding countries.
The eye shape here is often paired with darker skin tones and prominent eyelid creases.
Conclusion:
Your almond-shaped eyes are most commonly found in Mediterranean, Eastern European, Middle Eastern, and South Asian populations. This eye shape, combined with your medium brown eye color, aligns well with your identified heritage as Eastern European Roma and Balkan. The almond eye shape is a versatile and widespread feature, contributing to the diverse genetic makeup of these regions.
Mortimer
05-31-2024, 08:37 AM
Thank you very much, can you give a short summary only of what you said about my eye color again
GPT
Sure! Here's a short summary of the analysis of your eye color:
Your eye color is a consistent medium brown.
The color appears uniform with no significant flecks of other colors.
In different lighting conditions, your eye color remains within the medium brown range, showing a rich, warm tone.
This shade of brown is common among many populations, including those of Eastern European and Roma descent.
Thank you can you also give a analysis of my eye shape and where it is most common
GPT
Certainly! Based on the close-up images you provided, here's an analysis of your eye shape and where it is most commonly found:
Eye Shape Analysis:
Shape:
Your eyes appear to be almond-shaped, which is characterized by a slightly pointed inner corner and a more rounded outer corner.
The upper and lower eyelids create a smooth curve, giving the eyes a slightly elongated look.
Eyelid Structure:
You have a visible eyelid crease, which is common among many populations.
The eyelid fold is not particularly prominent, indicating a typical European eyelid structure.
Common Regions for Almond-Shaped Eyes:
Mediterranean Region:
Almond-shaped eyes are commonly found among people from Southern Europe, including countries like Italy, Greece, and Spain.
This eye shape is also prevalent in the Middle Eastern populations, where it is often accompanied by dark hair and medium to olive skin tones.
Eastern Europe:
Many Eastern European populations, including those in Romania, Hungary, and the Balkans, also have almond-shaped eyes.
This shape is typical among both Slavic and Roma populations in these regions.
Middle East:
Almond-shaped eyes are widespread in Middle Eastern countries, such as Turkey, Lebanon, and Iran.
These regions often share genetic traits with Mediterranean populations due to historical interactions and migrations.
South Asia:
In South Asia, almond-shaped eyes are common among people in India, Pakistan, and surrounding countries.
The eye shape here is often paired with darker skin tones and prominent eyelid creases.
Conclusion:
Your almond-shaped eyes are most commonly found in Mediterranean, Eastern European, Middle Eastern, and South Asian populations. This eye shape, combined with your medium brown eye color, aligns well with your identified heritage as Eastern European Roma and Balkan. The almond eye shape is a versatile and widespread feature, contributing to the diverse genetic makeup of these regions.
I think it can be concluded that Mortimer doesnt really have the "darkest blackest brown eyes which there exist" i guess east asians such as chinese or koreans might have them.
https://i.ibb.co/4ZyWd7h/eyesreport.jpg (https://ibb.co/6RhYBmj)
https://i.ibb.co/61Vk2WQ/Ancestry-DNATraits-Eye-Color-Text.jpg (https://ibb.co/9Vz7JrP)
https://i.ibb.co/3mW6kj0/phenotypepredictorandrejeyecolorlikelihood.jpg (https://ibb.co/60b9NT4)
https://i.ibb.co/ZMnXHKb/phenotypepredictorandrejpigmentation2.jpg (https://ibb.co/2kDh8Pp)
https://i.ibb.co/7zfNTst/phenotypepredictorandrejpigmentation.jpg (https://ibb.co/dcTJ384)
https://i.ibb.co/17DQKc5/Eyesincarinlight.jpg (https://ibb.co/7jwCVh5)
https://i.ibb.co/2jxB5Sf/Eyesincarinlight3.jpg (https://ibb.co/MRrL9f3)
https://i.ibb.co/s1Bf7tx/IceKing.jpg (https://ibb.co/94MDPGK)
Quite accurate
https://i.ibb.co/41n59h0/pheno.jpg (https://ibb.co/qJ3PXT2)
https://i.ibb.co/K9zyM0k/1.jpg (https://ibb.co/THqhVvS)
https://i.ibb.co/bmKx5q8/fac.jpg (https://ibb.co/fFxbdBP)
https://i.ibb.co/Hz0pYVM/eye.jpg (https://ibb.co/pzgrZxs)
https://i.ibb.co/K9tCy2g/eye2.jpg (https://ibb.co/sFTL3K4)
more information than on dnagenics
https://i.ibb.co/HXZ24n0/dnagen.jpg (https://ibb.co/PtkYjwR)
actual eye color blue/gray (https://i.ibb.co/gjLXFNd/eye-t.jpg)
Mortimer
06-01-2024, 05:19 AM
I think it can be concluded that Mortimer doesnt really have the "darkest blackest brown eyes which there exist" i guess east asians such as chinese or koreans might have them.
https://i.ibb.co/4ZyWd7h/eyesreport.jpg (https://ibb.co/6RhYBmj)
https://i.ibb.co/61Vk2WQ/Ancestry-DNATraits-Eye-Color-Text.jpg (https://ibb.co/9Vz7JrP)
https://i.ibb.co/3mW6kj0/phenotypepredictorandrejeyecolorlikelihood.jpg (https://ibb.co/60b9NT4)
https://i.ibb.co/ZMnXHKb/phenotypepredictorandrejpigmentation2.jpg (https://ibb.co/2kDh8Pp)
https://i.ibb.co/7zfNTst/phenotypepredictorandrejpigmentation.jpg (https://ibb.co/dcTJ384)
https://i.ibb.co/17DQKc5/Eyesincarinlight.jpg (https://ibb.co/7jwCVh5)
https://i.ibb.co/2jxB5Sf/Eyesincarinlight3.jpg (https://ibb.co/MRrL9f3)
https://i.ibb.co/s1Bf7tx/IceKing.jpg (https://ibb.co/94MDPGK)
Mortimers Question: I upload more pictures of me and my eyes, can you give a answer whether they are actually medium or really dark brown, you once said they are medium brown once you said they are very dark brown, and also in a song text i read that it says about a roma gypsy woman that she is a dark eyed woman and her eyes contain silver sparkles or sparkle like the sky in the night, can you tell me if my eyes silver sparkle too and if that is common for dark eyes thank you
Based on the new set of photos you have provided:
Eye Color:
Eye Color: Your eye color appears to be medium brown rather than very dark brown. The photos show a rich brown hue that is not as dark as what is typically referred to as "very dark brown."
Silver Sparkles: The notion of eyes having "silver sparkles" or "sparkling like the sky in the night" is often a poetic way to describe the depth and liveliness that can be observed in dark eyes. While it's difficult to assess this precisely from photos, your eyes do exhibit a certain reflective quality, which might be interpreted as "sparkles" in the right lighting conditions.
Other Features:
Hair Color: Your hair appears to be dark brown to black.
Skin Tone: Your skin tone is light to medium olive, typical for people with Mediterranean or Middle Eastern heritage.
Eye Shape: Your eye shape is slightly almond-shaped with a defined upper eyelid crease.
Facial Features: Your facial features include a strong jawline, prominent cheekbones, and a straight nose.
Summary:
Eye Color: Medium brown with a reflective quality that may be perceived as sparkles in certain lighting.
Hair Color: Dark brown to black.
Skin Tone: Light to medium olive.
Eye Shape: Slightly almond-shaped with a defined upper eyelid crease.
Facial Features: Strong jawline, prominent cheekbones, and a straight nose.
Observations:
Your features do suggest a blend of different ancestries, with your eye color being a medium brown which can sometimes reflect light in a way that might be poetically described as sparkling. This reflective quality is more noticeable in darker eyes under bright light or in photos taken with a flash.
Vessna
06-01-2024, 01:19 PM
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How long does it take to get the results? I just submitted the form.
Beowulf
06-01-2024, 02:08 PM
How long does it take to get the results? I just submitted the form.
I've waited a bit less of an hour but i contacted directly with the creator of the tool, so idk if the time you need to wait is very different.
Beowulf
06-01-2024, 02:11 PM
This one is to represent Baltics, the order is:
SSA - Amerindian - East Asian - Baltic - Middle Eastern (Mediterranean) - Northwestern European - South Asian - Oceanian.
for some reason my higher percentage here was the Baltic one (?)
https://i.postimg.cc/9fwXqJ93/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-01-161105.png (https://postimages.org/)
Mopi The Dire Wolf
06-01-2024, 02:24 PM
is there a link to the website for this?
Melkiirs
06-01-2024, 05:40 PM
is there a link to the website for this?
Here: https://andreikh.itch.io/trait-predictor
Creaticia
06-01-2024, 07:20 PM
I have hazel eyes...
https://imgur.com/pZf5z8e
https://imgur.com/4PrwbBy
I have hazel eyes...
https://imgur.com/pZf5z8e
https://imgur.com/4PrwbBy
Could you please post the rest of your results?
Vessna
06-02-2024, 12:11 AM
So...I got the results back for myself and my husband.
I am going to start with the good part. I really liked the health report with different risk scores, traits etc. It was fun to go through, but I already have it through 23andMe.
Now, the phenotype part. I am really happy for people that got accurate results because for both myself and my husband it was a total mess. Like way off, not even close to our actual genetic origins.
I am predicted to be an Armenoid :blink: and my husband predicted to be a Volgid. I am beyond confused because we are clearly none of these phenotypes lol
Melkiirs
06-02-2024, 12:16 AM
So...I got the results back for myself and my husband.
I am going to start with the good part. I really liked the health report with different risk scores, traits etc. It was fun to go through, but I already have it through 23andMe.
Now, the phenotype part. I am really happy for people that got accurate results because for both myself and my husband it was a total mess. Like way off, not even close to our actual genetic origins.
I am predicted to be an Armenoid :blink: and my husband predicted to be a Volgid. I am beyond confused because we are clearly none of these phenotypes lol
What about pigmentation? How accurate? Post if possible.
Mortimer
06-02-2024, 04:16 AM
https://i.ibb.co/KDkXwb3/Freshhaircut.jpg (https://ibb.co/bFZPJQ8)
Hello. I uploaded many pictures and many pictures of my eyes but based on this one picture, in the mirror, i upload now what would you describe my eye color and tone, again, i think medium brown right do you think it has copperish or reddish quality like chestnut or ruset
GPT
Based on the picture you uploaded, your eye color appears to be medium brown. They do seem to have a slight copperish or reddish quality, similar to chestnut or russet. This gives your eyes a warm and rich tone.
Creaticia
06-02-2024, 05:19 AM
What parts do you want?
rothaer
06-02-2024, 08:29 AM
What about pigmentation? How accurate? Post if possible.
Quite everyone (figuratively) can give you a SOMEWHAT correct trait evaluation. When the predictor well has such wrongs as reported it would be pointless anyhow, no matter if it happens to achieve some correct predictions regarding the pigmentation.
To be fair, all these predictors do have a legit excuse for wrongs. As long as the raw data does not contain all relevant SNPs a correct prediction with confidence is logically impossible. Impressing matches are then by chance. Keep in mind that the common DNA raw data we speak of here does contain just abt. 0.02% (sic) of the genome.
Now, the really interesting thing would be when a WGS result is evaluated. It contains definitely all information that there is and causes your phenotype.
Eurafricanid
07-17-2024, 05:00 PM
It updated and now it's even more accurate for me!
https://i.imgur.com/lyzGLvT.jpg
It updated and now it's even more accurate for me!
Did you have to pay again for a new version of the program? Do you have his e-mail?
Eurafricanid
07-17-2024, 08:14 PM
Did you have to pay again for a new version of the program? Do you have his e-mail?
You can contact him through the email you got your results and ask him for the update of you want.
You can contact him through the email you got your results and ask him for the update of you want.
I downloaded the program directly from the website.
If you downloaded from itch.io before the price change with the May v13 update you have to pay again. I no longer receive free updates.
I bought it after the price change. I already found his e-mail address, so I'll write to him.
Melkiirs
07-17-2024, 08:32 PM
I bought it after the price change. I already found his e-mail address, so I'll write to him.
Never mind what I said. You can always access the latest release after purchase through your library, I just did not get emailed.
Minterms
07-17-2024, 09:17 PM
Hello. Why do he asks for two raw genomes? Is it for two different people or if you have tested with several companies? Thank you
As far as I can see, the differences between version 13 and 14 are rather small.
https://i.ibb.co/2WmqYy4/Screenshot-2024-07-17-at-23-47-32-Phenotype-Oracle.png (https://ibb.co/7j8vNXm)
https://i.ibb.co/2NrVqXh/Screenshot-2024-07-17-at-23-48-37-Phenotype-Oracle.png (https://ibb.co/hfNQsp9)
https://i.ibb.co/0qVcL3Q/Screenshot-2024-07-17-at-23-52-39-NOSHACOT-phenotype-predictor-2023.png (https://ibb.co/tBP4653)
https://i.ibb.co/7XSxSBw/Screenshot-2024-07-17-at-23-53-40-Bayesian-eye-color-estimate-HERC2-OCA2-only.png (https://imgbb.com/)
vader
07-17-2024, 11:08 PM
Not to be a hater or anything but I got a mirror.
Melkiirs
07-17-2024, 11:39 PM
Not to be a hater or anything but I got a mirror.
Post the phenotype result so we can see how close it is.
Athalafuns
08-07-2024, 02:19 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/7hCkCsXX/Eyes.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/13z3PB1C/Eyes-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/jdHsy9tk/Phenotype.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/SQXLQLkK/Pheno-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/QxYrgrvm/Skin.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/LsLKMg5Q/Hair.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/52Zy3zDs/Hair-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/wj5Zf8Gn/Noose.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Photos to compare: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?381416-I-need-help-(Classify-amp-Pass)
Athalafuns
08-23-2024, 10:40 PM
Brother
https://i.postimg.cc/HWfvnwg7/Eye-Color.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/GhG7y4Lg/Eyes-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/xCB5k2WS/Pheno.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/vTM122nV/Pheno-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/kM19phWP/Skin.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/gJ2QymSX/Hair.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/KjKWVQym/Hair-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/4xR0Lz2T/Noose.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Sovanz
08-23-2024, 11:14 PM
i will buy this how much does it cost?
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