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Grainofsalt92
05-28-2024, 08:18 PM
Hi everyone, I'm quite new at genealogy and I'm interested to know which ethnicities I'm mixed with. Family legend states about some grand grand parent who was a gypsy or a tatar from Astrakhan or a chechen. I've made my dna test at genotek but it was very superficial and didn't tell much so I uploaded my data into gedmatch and your dna portal, and vahaduo and the results are diverse.

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6300% / 0.00629969 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.6 Ukrainian_Rivne
31.8 Ingrian
2.6 Brahmin_Gujarat_Nagar

MDLP World Oracle results:
Kit TD1036747

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 52.9
2 South_and_West_European 35.98
3 Caucaus_Parsia 7.11
4 North_Asian 2.37
5 Melanesian 1.17
6 Paleo_African 0.43
7 Mesoamerican 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_South 2.1
2 Russian_cossack 3.05
3 Ukrainian-East 3.46
4 Ukrainian 3.61
5 Belarusian_V 3.87
6 Polish_V 3.97
7 Polish 3.98
8 Russian_Center 4.27
9 Russian_V 4.32
10 Ukrainian-Center 4.69
11 Sorb 5.21
12 Ukrainian_V 5.45
13 Russian 5.79
14 Ukrainian-West 6.3
15 Belarusian 6.68
16 Swedish_V 7.58
17 Mordovian_V 7.74
18 Mordovian 7.95
19 Lithuanian_V 8.62
20 Moldavian 8.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.4% Russian_South + 0.6% Papuan @ 1.96
2 99.4% Russian_South + 0.6% Melanesian @ 1.98
3 98.5% Russian_South + 1.5% Ajv70 @ 2
4 99.4% Russian_South + 0.6% Nganassan @ 2.01
5 98.9% Russian_South + 1.1% Bra2 @ 2.01
6 99.4% Russian_South + 0.6% Australian @ 2.02
7 99.1% Russian_South + 0.9% Ste7 @ 2.03
8 99.5% Russian_South + 0.5% Even @ 2.03

MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:
MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Kit TD1036747

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 34.64
2 Neolithic 24.85
3 Caucasian 18.17
4 Steppe 16.2
5 Siberian 4.35
6 Arctic 0.91
7 Indian 0.88

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) 3.32
2 Russian_cossack (Kuban) 5.69
3 Ukrainians_east (EastUkraine) 5.83
4 Russian (CentralRussia) 6
5 Sorb (Lusatia) 6.04
6 Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) 6.11
7 Pole (WestPoland) 6.22
8 Belarusian (Belarus) 6.29
9 Ukrainian (Ukraine) 6.38
10 Finn (WestFinland) 6.38
11 Belarusian_West (WestBelarus) 6.38
12 Russian (Kostroma) 6.39
13 Pole (Poland) 6.74
14 Latvian (Latvia) 6.75
15 Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) 6.82
16 Russian (Tver) 6.83
17 Belarusian_East (EastBelarus) 6.84
18 Pole (Wroclaw) 6.85
19 Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) 6.89
20 Ingrians (Ingermanland) 7.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 2% Nganasan (Taymyr) @ 2.9
2 98% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 2% Tundra_Yukaghir (Andryushkino) @ 2.91
3 97.9% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 2.1% Even (Even) @ 2.95
4 97.2% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 2.8% Yukaghir (Kolyma) @ 2.96
5 98.2% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 1.8% Dolgan (Taymyr) @ 2.96
6 97.6% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 2.4% Nenets (Nenets_okrug) @ 2.98
7 97.7% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 2.3% Tundra_Nenets (Kanin) @ 2.98
8 98.1% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 1.9% Evenk (Evenk) @ 2.99
9 98.2% Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) + 1.8% Sakha (Yakutia) @ 2.99

puntDNAL K13 Oracle

Kit TD1036747

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 58.67
2 SW_Europe 20.23
3 West_Asia 9.09
4 SW_Asia 4.16
5 Siberia 3.94
6 South_Asia 1.89
7 Americas 1.12
8 West_Africa 0.9

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian 3.46
2 Mordovian 3.74
3 Belarusian 6.58
4 Polish 6.91
5 Estonian 8.88
6 Lithuanian 9.87
7 Ukrainian 10.09
8 Latvian 10.09
9 Swedish 11.94
10 Norwegian 13.15
11 German_North 13.39
12 Slovak 14.28
13 Finnish 15.2
14 Slovene 16.2
15 Utahn_European 16.6
16 Irish 17.09
17 Hungarian 17.63
18 Orcadian 17.69
19 Moldavian 17.93
20 Scottish 18.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.3% Russian + 4.7% Makrani @ 1.47
2 95.3% Russian + 4.7% Sindhi @ 1.52
3 95.4% Russian + 4.6% Brahui @ 1.59
4 95.3% Russian + 4.7% Balochi @ 1.59
5 93% Russian + 7% Romani @ 1.61
6 95.2% Russian + 4.8% Kashmir_Pandit @ 1.63

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:# Population Percent
1 North_European 56.87
2 Atlantic_Med 21.32
3 Caucasus 10.79
4 Gedrosia 3.97
5 Siberian 3.84
6 South_Asian 1.91
7 Southwest_Asian 1.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish (Dodecad) 7.97
2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 9.36
3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 9.75
4 Hungarians (Behar) 11.3
5 Russian (Dodecad) 11.46
6 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 12.01
7 Russian (HGDP) 12.48
8 Belorussian (Behar) 12.65
9 Russian_B (Behar) 12.81
10 German (Dodecad) 14.58
11 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.71
12 Norwegian (Dodecad) 17.62
13 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 17.83
14 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 19.27
15 Lithuanians (Behar) 20.89
16 Finnish (Dodecad) 21.02
17 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.46
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.58
19 Chuvashs (Behar) 22.81
20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Russian (HGDP) + 46% German (Dodecad) @ 2.02
2 71.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% French (HGDP) @ 2.19
3 55% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 45% German (Dodecad) @ 2.22
4 82.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 17.8% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.25
5 84% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 16% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 2.36
6 63.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 36.6% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.56
7 70.4% Russian (HGDP) + 29.6% French (HGDP) @ 2.62
8 79% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 21% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.67

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.9
2 North_Atlantic 27.38
3 West_Med 9.05
4 West_Asian 6.47
5 East_Med 3.39
6 South_Asian 3.02
7 Siberian 3.01
8 Amerindian 1.44
9 Red_Sea 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.83
2 Russian_Smolensk 4.05
3 Estonian_Polish 4.49
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.56
5 Polish 4.73
6 Ukrainian 4.78
7 Kargopol_Russian 5.44
8 Belorussian 5.57
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.62
10 South_Polish 6.28
11 Estonian 8.17
12 Lithuanian 8.4
13 Erzya 8.55
14 Finnish 9.69
15 East_Finnish 9.87
16 Southwest_Finnish 11.32
17 Croatian 11.88
18 Moldavian 14.41
19 Hungarian 15.24
20 East_German 16.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Kargopol_Russian + 46% South_Polish @ 1.86
2 54.1% Polish + 45.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.02
3 53.9% Ukrainian + 46.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.11
4 66.4% Polish + 33.6% Erzya @ 2.23
5 92.1% Estonian_Polish + 7.9% Tadjik @ 2.23
6 51% Kargopol_Russian + 49% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.27
7 84.2% Polish + 15.8% Chuvash @ 2.32
8 87.2% Polish + 12.8% Mari @ 2.33

HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 57.97
2 Mediterranean 18.35
3 Caucasian 8.78
4 Baloch 6.45
5 Siberian 4.57
6 S-Indian 1.64
7 SW-Asian 1.58


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 ukranian_yunusbayev @ 5.189387
2 mordovian_yunusbayev @ 7.486985
3 belorussian_behar @ 8.136364
4 russian_behar @ 9.469422
5 russian_hgdp @ 9.764546
6 slovenian_xing @ 11.303766
7 hungarian_behar @ 13.062637
8 n-european_xing @ 14.056142
9 lithuanian_behar @ 15.433603
10 utahn-white_hapmap @ 15.442277
11 utahn-white_1000genomes @ 17.463955
12 orcadian_hgdp @ 18.575594
13 british_1000genomes @ 18.842920
14 chuvash_behar @ 19.748610
15 serbian_harappa @ 22.424391
16 french_hgdp @ 24.536476
17 finnish_1000genomes @ 27.661554
18 romanian-a_behar @ 28.506744
19 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 30.596931
20 singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 36.939991

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% russian_hgdp +50% slovenian_xing @ 2.735265


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% belorussian_behar +25% chuvash_behar +25% n-european_xing @ 2.241052


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 french_hgdp + russian_behar + russian_hgdp + russian_hgdp @ 1.591671
2 french_hgdp + mordovian_yunusbayev + russian_behar + russian_hgdp @ 1.850139
3 n-european_xing + russian_hgdp + russian_hgdp + slovenian_xing @ 1.983950
4 belorussian_behar + french_hgdp + russian_hgdp + russian_hgdp @ 2.108746
5 belorussian_behar + french_hgdp + mordovian_yunusbayev + russian_hgdp @ 2.122925
6 french_hgdp + russian_hgdp + russian_hgdp + ukranian_yunusbayev @ 2.137978
7 french_hgdp + mordovian_yunusbayev + russian_hgdp + russian_hgdp @ 2.236796
8 belorussian_behar + belorussian_behar + chuvash_behar + n-european_xing @ 2.241052
9 finnish_1000genomes + mordovian_yunusbayev + mordovian_yunusbayev + spaniard_behar @ 2.249090

Leto
05-28-2024, 09:53 PM
I already explained in another thread that you don't seem to have much (if any) of that. I also noted that your raw data was of bad quality but you can download the better version which is V3.