European Huns on G25

[axlredneck]

https://youtu.be/1eDt1VnfxHM


The Huns were a nomadic people who lived in Central Asia, the Caucasus, and Eastern Europe between the 4th and 6th centuries AD. According to European tradition, they were first reported living east of the Volga River, in an area that was part of Scythia at the time. By 370 AD, the Huns had arrived on the Volga, causing the westwards movement of Goths and Alan's. By 430, they had established a vast, but short-lived, empire on the Danubian frontier of the Roman empire in Europe. Either under Hunnic hegemony, or fleeing from it, several central and eastern European peoples established kingdoms in the region.

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/2ZFWH8s/IMG-20240605-205006.jpg

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/7SM977R/IMG-20240605-190832.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tC57Djt/IMG-20240605-190818.jpg


Hunnic,0.0490264,-0.3133549,0.0630839,-0.0086386,-0.0476694,-0.0212365,0.0095346,0.0110862,0.0029982,-0.0003223,-0.0299719,-0.0026143,0.0021913,-0.0074528,0.0047696,0.0033545,-0.0021732,-0.0009601,0.0029987,0.0100922,-0.0165969,0.0005445,-0.0086498,0.0026652,0.0006767
Oghuric,0.088416,-0.1208119,0.0569588,0.0464543,-0.0430627,0.0059064,-0.0037684,0.0020523,-0.0110006,-0.0248814,-0.0125791,-0.0040894,0.0031854,-0.0209976,0.0186128,0.0154276,-0.0048473,0.0014749,-0.001158,0.005172,-0.0177054,0.005697,0.0016022,0.002608,-0.002921
NE_Asian,0.03289062,-0.39992157,0.08048165,-0.0330143,-0.0662508,-0.04329393,0.01747092,0.01772629,0.01133921,0.0111 4946,-0.02583991,0.00031884,-0.00032379,-0.00100738,-0.00027733,-0.00191092,-0.00150386,-0.00168779,0.00852967,0.01438531,-0.01979762,-0.00854111,-0.01804248,0.00254969,-0.00636405
E_Asian,0.020888095,-0.420130585,0.007904881,-0.04076616,0.015816915,0.003127581,0.009090489,0.0 05782073,0.002572521,0.011576773,-0.087424083,-0.010876035,0.009912597,-0.001364364,-0.007614903,-0.003991115,0.001441427,-0.00377875,-0.009344729,0.004496684,-0.001185767,0.024763402,0.004798573,0.003261845,0. 037304859

[axlredneck]

Y-DNA: R-YP5505 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP5505/), Q-YP832 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-YP832/), Q-YP4500 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-YP4500/), R-Y84684 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y84684/)

The Hunnic Y-DNA is entirely of Oghuric origin; none of it can be ascribed to NE or East Asian origin. Volga Tatars and Magyar Conquerors are also found in the first three clades, given that both derive from Oghuric tribes that moved from Old Great Bulgaria to Volga-Urals.

[axlredneck]

Found this on Reddit:
https://i.ibb.co/dpchKrp/RDT-20240605-1914099211185902714813237.png

[axlredneck]

The NE Asian base of the Huns may have lived in central-south Mongolia, where they picked the Tibetan ancestry.

[axlredneck]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Xiongnu_%2810337033763%29.jpg

[Leto]

The Hunnic sample is like 75% Mongoloid, I didn't know it was that high.

[axlredneck]

Attila was most likely R-YP5505...

[axlredneck]

https://youtu.be/bFpQjWtpHcM

[Demirkazık]

Target: Demir
Distance: 2.5306% / 0.02530606
66.6 Anatolian
32.0 Oghuric
1.4 Hunnic

[axlredneck]

PCA
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJuUmQuXEAMGdd8?format=jpg&name=large

[axlredneck]

Pannonian Avars on G25 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?385035-Pannonian-Avars-on-G25)

[axlredneck]

A Hun from Kazakh steppe....

Y-DNA: R-Y195965 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y195965/) (Bulgar origin)
Age: c. 350 CE

https://i.ibb.co/9TZp9yg/IMG-20240610-171050.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/t3rdNZQ/IMG-20240610-171258.jpg

Avar = NE Asian
U. Yellow River LN + Alor = Tibetan
Marinskaya = Bulgar

[axlredneck]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc4UE08AWblNOVR3u0pR_uI-yx7YC0oiJveuxr11gmfzymmzmzAYTpOB92&s=10

[Hektor12]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc4UE08AWblNOVR3u0pR_uI-yx7YC0oiJveuxr11gmfzymmzmzAYTpOB92&s=10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation

[Lemurian]

Would've figured that by the time they got to Europe many of them were more diluted with Scytho-Sarmatian, Slavic, and Germanic peoples, but I guess these samples were from the elites.

[axlredneck]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc4UE08AWblNOVR3u0pR_uI-yx7YC0oiJveuxr11gmfzymmzmzAYTpOB92&s=10


Artificial cranial deformation or modification, head flattening, or head binding is a form of body alteration in which the skull of a human being is deformed intentionally. It is done by distorting the normal growth of a child's skull by applying force. Flat shapes, elongated ones (produced by binding between two pieces of wood), rounded ones (binding in cloth), and conical ones are among those chosen or valued in various cultures.

In the Pontic steppe and the rest of Europe the Huns, including the Proto-Bulgarians, are also known to have practised similar cranial deformation, as were the people known as the Alans.

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/7SM977R/IMG-20240605-190832.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tC57Djt/IMG-20240605-190818.jpg

The Oghuric part is Core_Xiongnu.

[axlredneck]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Hunnenwanderung.png
A suggested path of the Huns' movement westwards (labels in German)