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ScandinavianCelt
06-07-2024, 09:05 PM
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UN Geoscheme:

Blue:Northern
Green:Western
Yellow:Southern
Red:Eastern

https://i.postimg.cc/NG9ZsG24/European-Regions-Euro-Voc.png (https://postimg.cc/V5wK48Rr)

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.8295% / 0.02829467
65.2 Western
34.8 Northern

Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average (both data sets averaged)
Distance: 2.7623% / 0.02762307
63.4 Western
36.6 Northern


Note: These are all nations in each region averaged. If using individual samples the results will change. I can post using individual samples if anyone wants me to.

gixajo
06-07-2024, 09:15 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 3.6263% / 0.03626256
67.6 Western
32.4 Southern

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 3.5469% / 0.03546871
71.2 Western
28.8 Southern

Beowulf
06-07-2024, 09:16 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0176% / 0.01757869
66.9 Western
33.1 Southern

Petalpusher
06-07-2024, 09:17 PM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 3.2231% / 0.03223092
92.4 Western
7.6 Northern

Distance to: Petalpusher
0.03231156 Western
0.08300133 Eastern
0.08736295 Northern
0.09070812 Southern

Polak
06-07-2024, 09:28 PM
Target: Polak_scaled
Distance: 3.9417% / 0.03941738 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 Eastern
47.0 Northern

I think one of the issues with the distance for me is that I'm using my old 23andme raw data, which I heard is not the best quality. Maybe I need to do an AncestryDNA test.

Sovanz
06-07-2024, 09:32 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 3.6263% / 0.03626256
67.6 Western
32.4 Southern

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 3.5469% / 0.03546871
71.2 Western
28.8 Southern

Apperantly I'm Slavic (Balkan) :P

Target: Sovanz_scaled
Distance: 25.8801% / 0.25880130
55.6 Eastern
44.4 Southern

Annihilus
06-07-2024, 09:34 PM
Apperantly I'm Slavic (Balkan)

Target: Sovanz_scaled
Distance: 25.8801% / 0.25880130
55.6 Eastern
44.4 Southern

Distance: 25.8801% lol

Katarzyna
06-07-2024, 09:45 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.8582% / 0.01858215
53.0 Northern
44.8 Eastern
2.2 Western

gixajo
06-07-2024, 09:45 PM
Apperantly I'm Slavic (Balkan) :P

Target: Sovanz_scaled
Distance: 25.8801% / 0.25880130
55.6 Eastern
44.4 Southern

As they tell you, those distances are too high, and that would show that it is not a valid model to accurately shape you.

In your case you should add an SSA reference and another Amerindian.


Amerindian,0.0546626,-0.2997196,0.1135629,0.0918740,-0.1053816,-0.0157815,-0.2754307,-0.3299914,-0.0119191,-0.0153185,-0.0041972,-0.0028787,0.0018628,0.0202833,-0.0071473,0.0055726,0.0063945,0.0008683,0.001731,-0.0012330,-0.0022102,0.0057019,-0.0008400,0.0010457,0.0009048
SubSaharanAfrican,-0.6215502,0.0637063,0.0188891,0.015677,0.0001762,0 .009502,-0.00184,0.0128478,-0.0219721,0.0078662,0.0014819,-0.0004158,-0.0108071,0.0016869,-0.0133772,0.0099149,-0.0072636,0.0181206,-0.0122145,0.0038086,0.0000042,-0.0012876,0.0007025,0.0000791,0.0000939

Sovanz
06-07-2024, 09:52 PM
As they tell you, those distances are too high, and that would show that it is not a valid model to accurately shape you.

In your case you should add an SSA reference and another Amerindian.


Amerindian,0.0546626,-0.2997196,0.1135629,0.0918740,-0.1053816,-0.0157815,-0.2754307,-0.3299914,-0.0119191,-0.0153185,-0.0041972,-0.0028787,0.0018628,0.0202833,-0.0071473,0.0055726,0.0063945,0.0008683,0.001731,-0.0012330,-0.0022102,0.0057019,-0.0008400,0.0010457,0.0009048
SubSaharanAfrican,-0.6215502,0.0637063,0.0188891,0.015677,0.0001762,0 .009502,-0.00184,0.0128478,-0.0219721,0.0078662,0.0014819,-0.0004158,-0.0108071,0.0016869,-0.0133772,0.0099149,-0.0072636,0.0181206,-0.0122145,0.0038086,0.0000042,-0.0012876,0.0007025,0.0000791,0.0000939


Yeah I know I was just goofing around.

ScandinavianCelt
06-07-2024, 09:53 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.8582% / 0.01858215
53.0 Northern
44.8 Eastern
2.2 Western

Must be all the Baltic right? This is the problem with creating regions it all depends on how you divide them and it depends on if you use average samples or individual samples I get like 77% Northern if I use all the individual samples before averaging them I have to double check but the difference is significant for me

ScandinavianCelt
06-07-2024, 09:57 PM
Yeah I know I was just goofing around.

You could make a bill beaker regional calculator if you averaged the samples from each of those regions if you wanted to I don't know what you have in modern times for European but you could do a regional for any time period really

gixajo
06-07-2024, 09:59 PM
Must be all the Baltic right? This is the problem with creating regions it all depends on how you divide them and it depends on if you use average samples or individual samples I get like 77% Northern if I use all the individual samples before averaging them I have to double check but the difference is significant for me

It is a very valid model, for most of us, since the references are only 4 and are made up of averages of regions that are quite different, it is normal that they give us distances above 3.

Taking into account the above, it is an acceptable distance.:thumb001:

Sovanz
06-07-2024, 09:59 PM
You could make a bill beaker regional calculator if you averaged the samples from each of those regions if you wanted to I don't know what you have in modern times for European but you could do a regional for any time period really

Honestly that's a lot work , I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to this stuff so I just prefer to let It go to the experts.

Thanks though.

Petalpusher
06-07-2024, 10:06 PM
Apperantly I'm Slavic (Balkan) :P

Target: Sovanz_scaled
Distance: 25.8801% / 0.25880130
55.6 Eastern
44.4 Southern

That's because "Eastern" is the closest to Amerindian of all 4 (but not close)


Distance to: Amerindian
0.63193134 Eastern
0.63308403 Northern
0.64926722 Western
0.64961472 Southern

Sovanz
06-07-2024, 10:15 PM
That's because "Eastern" is the closest to Amerindian of all 4 (but not close)


Distance to: Amerindian
0.63193134 Eastern
0.63308403 Northern
0.64926722 Western
0.64961472 Southern

That's pretty dope, I wish there was more Amerindian studies on this forum clearly outside of the Caucasian race amerindians are the closest cousins to Europeans.

Vitez
06-07-2024, 10:45 PM
Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 0.0169% / 0.01688713
63.3 Eastern
34.5 Southern
2.2 Western

Mixdguy17
06-07-2024, 10:47 PM
Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 3.0798% / 0.03079780
47.0 Southern
27.6 Western
13.4 Amerindian
12.0 SubSaharanAfrican

ScandinavianCelt
06-07-2024, 10:52 PM
That's pretty dope, I wish there was more Amerindian studies on this forum clearly outside of the Caucasian race amerindians are the closest cousins to Europeans.

If you have access to DNAGenics G25 Studio try this one: Ancient Indigenous Test (Scaled) - Alvie

Barba
06-07-2024, 10:55 PM
Target: Barba
Distance: 1.5411% / 0.01541057
55.6 Western
44.4 Northern

Pedro Ruben
06-07-2024, 10:56 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 4.6629% / 0.04662924
55.6 Southern
44.4 Western

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 5.5952% / 0.05595223
59.6 Southern
40.4 Western

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 4.4390% / 0.04439018
57.6 Western
42.4 Southern

celticdragongod
06-07-2024, 11:06 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.04036722 Western
0.06609046 Eastern
0.06708691 Northern
0.09983519 Southern

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.9966% / 0.02996574
69.0 Western
31.0 Northern

ScandinavianCelt
06-07-2024, 11:10 PM
It is a very valid model, for most of us, since the references are only 4 and are made up of averages of regions that are quite different, it is normal that they give us distances above 3.

Taking into account the above, it is an acceptable distance.:thumb001:


I've noticed a problem though. The imbalance of total individual samples per nation (in the G25 Mod Pop Ave Scaled) is causing some "shifting".

I'm going to redo this giving balance to each nation by using one sample per nation only (maybe K105 samples would work?).

Example of individual samples I used to make "Eastern" average:

Eastern:Belarusian,0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0 .0695957,0.0402331,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
Eastern:Bulgarian,0.12475,0.1348622,0.0256442,0.00 53618,0.02462,-0.0008368,0.005499,0.0030458,-0.0002862,0.0069978,-0.0033452,0.0008992,0.002111,0.0086426,-0.0143046,-0.0022274,0.0070928,0.0020016,0.0031424,-0.0037018,-0.0046168,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.0024824,-0.0010776
Eastern:Cossack_Ukrainian,0.135449,0.116786,0.0716 53,0.060078,0.033852,0.023148,0.011281,0.010615,0. 003068,-0.017859,-0.000974,-0.008243,0.017839,0.021744,-0.009093,0.001989,0.000391,0.005194,0.00352,0.0033 77,-0.009608,-0.002349,0.004067,-0.006868,0.000599
Eastern:Czech,0.1311592,0.1318625,0.0604843,0.0472 574,0.038658,0.0189217,0.0063451,0.0086623,0.00467 24,-0.0088874,-0.0016862,-0.0038965,0.0060493,0.011772,0.0017435,0.0009995,-0.0006419,-0.0001462,0.0035679,0.0028956,-0.001267,-0.0001617,0.0065132,0.0039302,0.0015935
Eastern:East_Asian,0.0229543,-0.445479,0.0130733,-0.059109,0.0362118,0.0093428,0.003525,0.0005768,-0.0065105,0.0106607,-0.0740492,-0.0074685,0.011546,-0.0070647,-0.0110612,-0.004464,0.0003042,0.0035895,0.001676,-0.0092547,0.0270355,-0.01659,0.0049093,0.003374,-0.0419723
Eastern:Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0553559,0. 0364298,0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0075326,0. 0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
Eastern:Moldovan,0.1239316,0.1276665,0.0401454,0.0 200645,0.0276461,0.0083535,0.0071733,0.0066151,-0.0009739,-0.0020306,-0.0017438,-0.0019697,0.0050333,0.0140867,-0.0108867,-0.0037,0.0041195,-0.0003559,0.0034149,-0.0011285,-0.0040672,0.0002709,0.0035095,-0.0004848,-0.0003193
Eastern:NE_Asia,0.0466674,-0.3787924,0.1196982,0.0266798,-0.1218074,-0.0532122,-0.061432,-0.0685818,0.0081402,-0.0060866,0.0373494,-0.0015886,0.0049654,-0.022625,-0.0333058,-0.0185626,-0.000287,0.0162666,0.035975,0.0198846,0.0364606,-0.0546792,0.0123,0.0227262,0.0347994
Eastern:Polish_Kashubian,0.1354495,0.1330345,0.076 5555,0.063308,0.046624,0.0224505,0.007638,0.012576 ,-0.002045,-0.024693,-0.0034915,-0.003597,0.0115955,0.020987,-0.0027145,-0.007491,-0.012191,-0.0012035,0.0064105,-0.0008755,-0.0015595,-0.006059,0.005176,0.000542,-0.000958
Eastern:Polish_Silesian,0.1314655,0.1304955,0.0705 215,0.0499035,0.0375455,0.019383,0.0045825,0.01303 75,0.000307,-0.014943,-0.001705,-0.0006745,0.0021555,0.0147945,-0.0070575,-0.0025855,0.010887,0,-0.0017595,0.002126,-0.00156,-0.002349,0.004252,0.007049,-0.000479
Eastern:Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.057 7382,0.0406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
Eastern:Romanian,0.1243776,0.1340499,0.0344207,0.0 084861,0.0285368,0.0036508,0.0037814,0.005664,0.00 19336,0.0060138,-0.0031002,-0.0004632,-0.0002433,0.0085576,-0.0123011,-0.0018925,0.0047412,-0.0010596,0.0038737,-0.0030014,-0.006965,-0.0023269,0.0039663,0.0012598,-0.0007185
Eastern:Russian_Belgorod,0.1354493,0.1221175,0.069 5788,0.0566865,0.036853,0.019801,0.0119855,0.01413 4,-0.0043972,-0.0216862,-0.0020298,-0.0103035,0.0196975,0.0212972,-0.0130293,-0.0028838,0.005574,0.001077,0.0036138,0.0024075,-0.0037748,-0.0059045,0.005423,-0.006989,0.0009878
Eastern:Russian_Kaluga,0.1320348,0.1180555,0.07740 42,0.066215,0.03593,0.0239147,0.0060512,0.0136722,-0.0048065,-0.0235995,0.0009335,-0.011315,0.0194002,0.0254258,-0.0118078,-0.0046408,0.0013365,-0.003579,0.0006282,0.0054715,0.0003745,-0.001762,-0.0002465,-0.0061755,0.0006885
Eastern:Russian_Kostroma,0.1282407,0.0873355,0.081 4582,0.0680453,0.027441,0.0215208,0.0119073,0.0129 993,-0.0033747,-0.0299475,0.0042222,-0.0074932,0.017963,0.0123402,-0.0091383,-0.0039112,0.0009127,-0.0016258,-0.0017597,0.0004792,6.23e-05,-0.0014427,0.0035947,-0.0006025,-0.0020557
Eastern:Russian_Krasnoborsky,0.1278613,0.0766725,0 .082715,0.0710062,0.0243633,0.0218465,0.0090872,0. 0159993,0.0030337,-0.0290667,0.006333,-0.0108155,0.0194498,0.0119503,-0.0074643,-0.0025857,-0.000261,-0.0014357,-0.0008798,0.003731,0.002163,-0.001896,0.0023828,-0.0007228,-0.0005588
Eastern:Russian_Kursk,0.1308964,0.1157701,0.071087 2,0.0648019,0.0341601,0.023113,0.0103991,0.0121438 ,-0.0032469,-0.0255587,-0.0018066,-0.0080179,0.0183225,0.0206778,-0.0127748,0.0012101,0.0016136,-0.0008869,0.0023096,0.0012817,-0.002558,-0.0040188,0.0051146,-0.0058141,-0.0017214
Eastern:Russian_Leshukonsky,0.1197416,0.043668,0.0 909616,0.0796518,0.0096016,0.0161198,0.0137718,0.0 13753,-0.0021272,-0.035281,0.0133808,-0.0096814,0.0198906,0.00311,-0.0093374,-0.002148,-0.0002346,-0.0050168,-0.0058074,0.0004754,0.0026202,-0.0010884,-0.0002218,0.002193,0.0010298
Eastern:Russian_Orel,0.1305861,0.1167859,0.0711387 ,0.0608121,0.0334886,0.0224127,0.0091653,0.0130274 ,-0.0047971,-0.0251321,-0.0017864,-0.0078475,0.0156365,0.0247095,-0.0115855,-0.0034354,-0.0003911,-0.0011862,0.0027882,0.0011938,-0.0037547,-0.0044065,0.0074172,-0.0055976,-0.0009906
Eastern:Russian_Pinega,0.1248257,0.0636397,0.09453 17,0.07752,0.02185,0.023241,0.0118287,0.0146147,0. 0013637,-0.0311623,0.007091,-0.0119397,0.0239343,0.011331,-0.0102243,-0.0037567,-0.0039987,-0.0022803,-0.0051957,-0.001042,0.0076117,-0.0001233,0.0019717,-0.0024097,0.0020753
Eastern:Russian_Pinezhsky,0.1240672,0.0625564,0.09 22436,0.0802332,0.0189572,0.0216418,0.0082252,0.01 46762,9e-04,-0.0323286,0.0090614,-0.016785,0.0205152,0.00567,-0.011645,-0.0029966,0.0019298,-0.0025084,0.0007794,0.005903,0.0083604,0.0008656,-0.0001972,0.0022172,0.0052926
Eastern:Russian_Pskov,0.1299207,0.1192521,0.080595 9,0.0747053,0.0381609,0.0255783,0.0118847,0.014867 6,0.0002339,-0.0294961,4.64e-05,-0.013124,0.0191347,0.02605,-0.0072126,0.000322,0.0057743,-0.0042713,0.0001974,0.003162,-0.0022817,-0.0041336,0.0043666,-0.008366,0.0016421
Eastern:Russian_Ryazan,0.1277666,0.1100158,0.07042 72,0.0640886,0.0300312,0.0225669,0.0105558,0.01151 88,-0.0036304,-0.02322,0.0002164,-0.0085049,0.0161296,0.0211138,-0.0127125,-0.0020661,0.0063562,-0.0022276,0.0009218,-0.0003544,-0.0054591,-0.0031635,0.0050017,-0.0023998,-6.98e-05
Eastern:Russian_Smolensk,0.1321866,0.1242332,0.071 5021,0.0654613,0.0393098,0.0252119,0.0112963,0.012 8609,-0.0008043,-0.0248328,-0.0043845,-0.0082727,0.0169473,0.0282951,-0.0114004,-0.0060019,-0.0011734,-0.0019847,0.0029749,0.001951,-0.0025871,-0.0048471,0.0049217,-0.0059365,0.0017243
Eastern:Russian_Tver,0.1296159,0.105869,0.0766026, 0.0672244,0.0324289,0.0251699,0.009312,0.0125765,-0.0042438,-0.0264926,0.0009541,-0.0096478,0.0168171,0.0219511,-0.010162,0.0018729,0.0061605,-0.000206,-0.0001885,0.0021885,-0.0032286,-0.0048379,0.0087042,-0.0032685,-0.002305
Eastern:Russian_Voronez,0.1308965,0.1216098,0.0735 385,0.0608855,0.0360838,0.0225205,0.009694,0.01171 1,-0.0024542,-0.0240098,0.0008118,-0.0079052,0.017282,0.024359,-0.0136402,-0.0037125,0.0012385,0.0011085,0.0028285,0.0034392,-0.0023708,-0.0032148,0.0023725,-0.0050305,-0.0019758
Eastern:Russian_Yaroslavl,0.1308963,0.1056153,0.08 17097,0.0732133,0.0315953,0.0195223,0.0108887,0.00 69997,-0.001159,-0.027457,-0.0004327,-0.0091417,0.016303,0.021882,-0.014115,-0.0017233,0.0043463,-0.0002113,0.0005447,0.0042103,-0.0065713,-0.0039567,-0.000986,-0.0014057,0.0025547
Eastern:Siberia,0.0865054,-0.1815766,0.1162286,0.0551038,-0.0784146,-0.0234828,0.0063922,0.0120456,0.0041314,-0.0249664,0.055699,-0.0027574,0.0187608,-0.0661966,-0.0187566,-0.009308,-0.0032072,0.00451,0.0095028,0.001926,-0.021587,0.033782,0.050137,-0.0245096,-0.017747
Eastern:Slovakian,0.1304414,0.128769,0.0626776,0.0 514862,0.0412384,0.0200244,0.006768,0.0077998,-0.0018408,-0.0115538,-0.0019162,-0.0037466,0.009871,0.0104318,-0.0091476,0.0092814,0.012934,0.0002534,0.0054304,0 .0023512,-0.0037186,-0.0020774,0.0043382,0.001928,-0.0018922
Eastern:Ukrainian_Chernihiv,0.1322877,0.122992,0.0 682168,0.0613341,0.04011,0.0232408,0.0098442,0.013 5891,-0.0029087,-0.0230227,-0.0027788,-0.0084926,0.0184338,0.0247108,-0.0133007,-0.0001323,0.0037521,-0.0008023,0.0023187,-1.4e-05,-0.0026343,-0.0063751,0.0063267,-0.004378,0.0007583
Eastern:Ukrainian_Dnipro,0.1304414,0.1163796,0.069 7672,0.0592705,0.0359143,0.0213072,0.011351,0.0119 764,-0.0027814,-0.0231985,-0.0029229,-0.0098312,0.0158622,0.0223362,-0.0106132,0.0010475,0.0031293,0.0015329,0.002514,0 .0002501,-0.004405,-0.0055024,0.0044122,-0.002434,0.0007305
Eastern:Ukrainian_Lviv,0.1321613,0.1279568,0.06226 68,0.0474092,0.036451,0.0193984,0.0089041,0.011435 4,0.0001136,-0.0148017,-0.0041679,-0.006361,0.0116287,0.0230593,-0.0097869,-0.0053624,-0.0016516,-0.001675,0.0048742,-0.0003611,-0.0047833,-0.004218,0.0047244,-0.0026376,-0.0017031
Eastern:Ukrainian_Rivne,0.1301377,0.1243461,0.0702 284,0.0625543,0.0392208,0.0211027,0.0096616,0.0104 867,-0.0003636,-0.0209168,-0.0031214,-0.0085091,0.01442,0.0220808,-0.0131197,-0.0009428,0.0055342,-0.0017314,0.0032261,-0.000667,-0.0049217,-0.0036958,0.0048341,-0.0043109,0.0001066
Eastern:Ukrainian_Sumy,0.1300998,0.1227776,0.06746 68,0.0593351,0.0391458,0.0235942,0.0090008,0.01253 03,-0.000409,-0.0213945,-0.0029881,-0.0092917,0.014658,0.0263823,-0.0121199,-0.0047601,-0.0026598,0.0001139,0.0033057,-0.0017883,-0.0044422,-0.0059229,0.0056817,-0.0073622,-0.0003832
Eastern:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia,0.1289665,0.1262348, 0.0575027,0.0417232,0.0342537,0.016794,0.008542,0. 0087889,-0.0014939,-0.012598,-0.0012003,-0.0055711,0.0099086,0.0168317,-0.0113238,-0.0009223,0.0057539,-0.0011512,0.0020002,6.52e-05,-0.003548,-0.0035967,0.0040993,-0.0001571,-0.0002083
Eastern:Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o,0.104717,0.142174,0.0 02263,-0.035207,0.014156,-0.016176,-0.002115,-0.001615,0.003272,0.011663,-0.000812,0.001049,0.000743,0.001514,-0.002036,0.000928,0.00326,0.0019,0.00352,0.000375,-0.001248,-0.004204,0.008504,-0.000723,0.003353
Eastern:Ukrainian_Zhytomyr,0.1313841,0.1272314,0.0 710604,0.0592936,0.0371497,0.0232674,0.0104747,0.0 132521,-0.0029216,-0.0229097,-0.00341,-0.0100411,0.0147599,0.0242411,-0.0102954,-0.0041293,0.004582,-0.0006336,0.0036631,0.0006433,-0.0078433,-0.0031266,0.0046306,-0.0027714,0.0019331

Eastern vs Mod Pop Ave Scaled:

Distance to: Eastern
0.01153163 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.01469152 Russian_Orel
0.01532577 Russian_Ryazan
0.01604214 Russian_Kursk
0.01625881 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.01642700 Russian_Voronez
0.01647722 Russian_Belgorod
0.01727447 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.01774282 Polish
0.01784622 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.01800158 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.01857402 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.01940656 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.01968043 Moldovan_o
0.02190165 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02300470 Russian_Kaluga
0.02312236 Russian_Smolensk
0.02321112 Russian_Tver
0.02650027 Belarusian
0.02653335 Polish_Silesian
0.02677521 Slovakian
0.02915875 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.02971618 Czech
0.03150662 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.03176034 Russian_Pskov

oszkar07
06-07-2024, 11:17 PM
Target: Oszk
Distance: 2.4643% / 0.02464257
58.4 Western
32.0 Eastern
9.6 Northern

retfala
06-07-2024, 11:46 PM
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 1.6294% / 0.01629406
55.4 Eastern
37.8 Southern
6.8 Western

Coastal Elite
06-08-2024, 12:25 AM
Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 2.1397% / 0.02139653
61.6 Western
21.4 Southern
15.0 Eastern
2.0 Northern

Dušan
06-08-2024, 12:51 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 3.1036% / 0.03103568
59.0 Eastern
41.0 Southern

hazmatnik
06-08-2024, 01:45 AM
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 3.7519% / 0.03751916
56.4 Southern
43.6 Eastern

Far_away
06-10-2024, 09:42 PM
Target: SouthWillRiseAgain
Distance: 3.4690% / 0.03469028
59.8 Southern
40.2 Eastern

Eurafricanid
06-10-2024, 09:51 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.8192% / 0.02819241
61.2 Southern
38.8 Western

cass
06-10-2024, 09:52 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.5027% / 0.01502668
38.8 Northern
30.8 Western
30.4 Eastern

no surprise considering the location
https://i.ibb.co/RNTYvPH/1024px-Centre-of-Europe.jpg (https://ibb.co/gdZmjwg)

Polak
06-10-2024, 09:57 PM
Target: Polak_Simulated_scaled
Distance: 1.6221% / 0.01622074
54.6 Eastern
45.4 Northern

The distance is so much better, and after running it through a few calculators, it is far more accurate and matches my actual make up a lot better.

leachim_x
06-10-2024, 10:33 PM
Target: Micha_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.5324% / 0.01532350 | ADC: 0.25x
79.0 Western
21.0 Northern

Distance to: Micha_simulated_g25_scaled
0.02464013 Western
0.06175484 Eastern
0.06945005 Northern
0.08545513 Southern

RyoHazuki
06-10-2024, 11:37 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.5510% / 0.01551023
83.6 Western
16.4 Northern

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.7905% / 0.03790535
82.4 Western
17.6 Northern

Scandal
06-11-2024, 07:11 AM
Target: univ_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.7552% / 0.01755236
76.6 Eastern
19.0 Western
4.4 Southern

frankhammer
06-11-2024, 07:22 AM
Target: fh_scaled
Distance: 3.2218% / 0.03221787
82.4 Western
17.6 Northern

Ylla
06-11-2024, 10:16 AM
Distance: 3.6598% / 0.03659835
99.2 Southern
0.8 Eastern

Grace O'Malley
06-11-2024, 10:46 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.4719% / 0.03471894
66.4 Western
33.6 Northern

ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 01:34 PM
Use v2. This one has some unnecessary shifting that the other one doesn't have

Sovanz
06-11-2024, 02:38 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.4719% / 0.03471894
66.4 Western
33.6 Northern

If that's you In your photo, I have to say you are the most Irish looking person I've ever seen:thumb001:

ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 06:09 PM
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UN Geoscheme:

Blue:Northern
Green:Western
Yellow:Southern
Red:Eastern

https://i.postimg.cc/NG9ZsG24/European-Regions-Euro-Voc.png (https://postimg.cc/V5wK48Rr)

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.8295% / 0.02829467
65.2 Western
34.8 Northern

Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average (both data sets averaged)
Distance: 2.7623% / 0.02762307
63.4 Western
36.6 Northern


Note: These are all nations in each region averaged. If using individual samples the results will change. I can post using individual samples if anyone wants me to.

I updated only Denmark from Northern to Western, per the UN map and results changed a couple %:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 2.8159% / 0.02815876
67.2 Western
29.8 Northern
3.0 Eastern

Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 2.7559% / 0.02755929
66.0 Western
33.6 Northern
0.4 Eastern

tk'es
06-11-2024, 06:18 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 11.4087% / 0.11408695
82.0 Southern.v1
18.0 Eastern.v1

Upsilander
08-17-2024, 04:29 PM
Target: Upsilander
Distance: 2.2885% / 0.02288549
78.0 Western.v1
22.0 Northern.v1