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ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 03:53 PM
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Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 2.7846% / 0.02784553
77.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
0.6 France_Rochedane
0.4 KOR_Yokchido
0.2 Vanuatu_3000BP

NO ADC, aggregate.
Gallop
06-11-2024, 04:06 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.3537% / 0.02353721
42.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
22.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
16.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
10.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
5.4 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
2.6 Ancient_North_African_-_Simulated

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.3798% / 0.02379810
44.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
10.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
9.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
6.2 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
5.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
3.2 Ancient_North_African_-_Simulated

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 1.9539% / 0.01953920
39.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
16.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
9.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
5.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
3.2 Ancient_North_African_-_Simulated
Nurzat
06-11-2024, 04:11 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 3.8350% / 0.03834967
67.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
4.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
3.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
1.8 KOR_Yokchido
1.6 France_Rochedane

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 4.9750% / 0.04974985
71.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
24.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
2.6 KOR_Yokchido
2.0 France_Rochedane
Dušan
06-11-2024, 04:16 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 5.3088% / 0.05308760
65.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
32.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
1.6 KOR_Yokchido
0.6 France_Rochedane
noricum
06-11-2024, 04:18 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 4.4240% / 0.04423983
71.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
24.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
3.4 France_Rochedane
0.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
vader
06-11-2024, 04:26 PM
Target: AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 2.6173% / 0.02617284
48.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
16.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
7.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
1.2 France_Rochedane
0.2 KOR_Yokchido

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.7394% / 0.02739353
49.8 Ancient_Native_American(9600BP)
14.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
14.2 Morocco_LN.SG
10.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
3.8 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
3.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
2.4 France_Rochedane
1.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.4 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG
0.2 JPN_Jomon
Grace O'Malley
06-11-2024, 04:32 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.3344% / 0.03334419
75.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
20.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
4.0 France_Rochedane
Vessna
06-11-2024, 04:37 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.2918% / 0.07291806
80.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
7.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 04:54 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.2918% / 0.07291806
80.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
7.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane



Why is the distance so high though? Weird.
Vessna
06-11-2024, 05:00 PM
Why is the distance so high though? Weird.

Balto-Slavic drift. I almost always get high distance.
Petalpusher
06-11-2024, 05:11 PM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 3.7915% / 0.03791481
66.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
18.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
8.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
7.4 France_Rochedane
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 05:12 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.2918% / 0.07291806
80.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
7.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane

I also wonder why you get such a high amount of Western hunter-gatherer compared to me I would think I would have at least half of what you get but I don't understand it
Vessna
06-11-2024, 05:33 PM
I also wonder why you get such a high amount of Western hunter-gatherer compared to me I would think I would have at least half of what you get but I don't understand it

Not sure what to tell you.
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 05:35 PM
This is how some countries and areas score on this. Where do you fit between? I'm between Sweden & Voronez, Russia:

Target Distance EEF-Balkans_Neolithic EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N France_Rochedane KOR_Yokchido Morocco_EN.SG Morocco_LN.SG Sintashta_Russia_MLBA

Latvian 0.07955782 3.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 84.2
Lithuanian_PZ 0.07930261 3.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 84.0
Lithuanian_VZ 0.07773968 6.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 83.0
Estonian 0.06786523 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 11.4 0.8 0.0 0.0 82.8
Finnish_Central 0.05558521 0.0 3.4 0.0 0.0 8.6 5.4 0.0 0.0 82.6 etc...
Lithuanian_RA 0.07975479 7.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 82.4
Lithuanian_SZ 0.07946218 4.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 82.4
Finnish_North 0.06467305 0.0 2.2 0.0 0.0 9.0 6.8 0.0 0.0 82.0
Ingrian 0.05655462 3.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.6 5.0 0.0 0.0 81.8
Finnish_East 0.06133997 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.4 6.8 0.0 0.0 81.8
Russian_Pinezhsky 0.07027054 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.6 9.8 0.0 0.0 81.6
Russian_Kostroma 0.06091974 5.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.6 6.2 0.0 0.0 81.4
Russian_Yaroslavl 0.06677949 8.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.0 2.8 0.0 0.0 81.0
Russian_Leshukonsky 0.07201112 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 81.0
Lithuanian_PA 0.06968393 9.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.8
Russian_Pskov 0.06808414 8.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.6 0.4 0.0 0.0 80.8
Russian_Tver 0.06309281 8.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 3.2 0.0 0.0 80.6
Russian_Pinega 0.07174684 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.4 9.8 0.0 0.0 80.6
Finnish_Southwest 0.05764561 0.0 8.0 0.0 0.0 7.8 3.8 0.0 0.0 80.4
Russian_Krasnoborsky 0.06226557 4.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.6 8.0 0.0 0.0 80.2
Russian_Ryazan 0.06106423 11.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 2.8 0.0 0.0 80.0
Lithuanian_VA 0.07293066 8.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 11.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.0
Russian_Orel 0.06367760 12.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 79.8
Finnish_Southeast 0.05240043 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.4 5.0 0.0 0.0 79.6
Russian_Kursk 0.06154661 11.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.6 1.8 0.0 0.0 79.4
Polish_Kashubian 0.06338197 13.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 79.0
Russian_Smolensk 0.06808762 12.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.8 0.4 0.0 0.0 79.0
Russian_Kaluga 0.06725673 5.0 0.0 0.0 6.4 9.2 1.0 0.0 0.0 78.4
Russian_Voronez 0.06458032 13.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.2 1.0 0.0 0.0 78.2
Brad_G25_Scaled_Average 0.02785020 0.0 21.2 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.6 0.0 0.0 77.6
Swedish 0.03123684 0.0 17.4 0.0 0.0 5.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 77.4
Russian_Belgorod 0.06474333 15.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 77.2
Polish 0.05488822 15.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 77.0
Icelandic 0.03101235 0.0 19.6 0.0 0.0 4.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 76.0
Norwegian 0.02733377 0.0 20.2 0.0 0.0 4.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.8
Polish_Silesian 0.05013052 18.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.6
Irish 0.02787562 0.0 22.8 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.4
Danish 0.02895688 0.0 21.2 0.0 0.0 3.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.4
Scottish 0.02589761 0.0 23.8 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 74.4
English 0.02688145 0.0 26.0 0.0 0.0 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 72.0
Welsh 0.02476282 0.0 26.4 0.0 0.0 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 71.6
English_Cornwall 0.02888366 0.0 27.2 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 71.0
German 0.02504445 9.2 17.2 0.0 0.0 2.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 70.8
French_Seine-Maritime 0.02717179 10.4 17.4 3.2 0.0 1.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 67.8
Swiss_German 0.01684561 14.8 20.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 64.8
Portuguese 0.01461753 7.4 32.0 10.4 0.0 1.8 0.0 5.8 0.4 42.2
Feiichy
06-11-2024, 05:37 PM
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 0.0505% / 0.05047466

66.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
27.1 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
5.6 France_Rochedane
0.7 KOR_Yokchido
0.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C

Target: Stears
Distance: 0.0379% / 0.03793512

70.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
20.9 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
2.5 KOR_Yokchido
2.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
2.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
2.0 France_Rochedane
0.4 Morocco_LN.SG
Vessna
06-11-2024, 05:46 PM
This is how some countries and areas score on this. Where do you fit between? I'm between Sweden & Voronez, Russia:

Target Distance EEF-Balkans_Neolithic EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N France_Rochedane KOR_Yokchido Morocco_EN.SG Morocco_LN.SG Sintashta_Russia_MLBA

Latvian 0.07955782 3.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 84.2
Lithuanian_PZ 0.07930261 3.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 84.0
Lithuanian_VZ 0.07773968 6.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 83.0
Estonian 0.06786523 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 11.4 0.8 0.0 0.0 82.8
Finnish_Central 0.05558521 0.0 3.4 0.0 0.0 8.6 5.4 0.0 0.0 82.6 etc...
Lithuanian_RA 0.07975479 7.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 82.4
Lithuanian_SZ 0.07946218 4.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 82.4
Finnish_North 0.06467305 0.0 2.2 0.0 0.0 9.0 6.8 0.0 0.0 82.0
Ingrian 0.05655462 3.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.6 5.0 0.0 0.0 81.8
Finnish_East 0.06133997 1.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.4 6.8 0.0 0.0 81.8
Russian_Pinezhsky 0.07027054 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.6 9.8 0.0 0.0 81.6
Russian_Kostroma 0.06091974 5.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.6 6.2 0.0 0.0 81.4
Russian_Yaroslavl 0.06677949 8.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.0 2.8 0.0 0.0 81.0
Russian_Leshukonsky 0.07201112 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 81.0
Lithuanian_PA 0.06968393 9.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.8
Russian_Pskov 0.06808414 8.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.6 0.4 0.0 0.0 80.8
Russian_Tver 0.06309281 8.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 3.2 0.0 0.0 80.6
Russian_Pinega 0.07174684 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.4 9.8 0.0 0.0 80.6
Finnish_Southwest 0.05764561 0.0 8.0 0.0 0.0 7.8 3.8 0.0 0.0 80.4
Russian_Krasnoborsky 0.06226557 4.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.6 8.0 0.0 0.0 80.2
Russian_Ryazan 0.06106423 11.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 2.8 0.0 0.0 80.0
Lithuanian_VA 0.07293066 8.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 11.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 80.0
Russian_Orel 0.06367760 12.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 79.8
Finnish_Southeast 0.05240043 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.4 5.0 0.0 0.0 79.6
Russian_Kursk 0.06154661 11.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.6 1.8 0.0 0.0 79.4
Polish_Kashubian 0.06338197 13.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 79.0
Russian_Smolensk 0.06808762 12.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.8 0.4 0.0 0.0 79.0
Russian_Kaluga 0.06725673 5.0 0.0 0.0 6.4 9.2 1.0 0.0 0.0 78.4
Russian_Voronez 0.06458032 13.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.2 1.0 0.0 0.0 78.2
Brad_G25_Scaled_Average 0.02785020 0.0 21.2 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.6 0.0 0.0 77.6
Swedish 0.03123684 0.0 17.4 0.0 0.0 5.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 77.4
Russian_Belgorod 0.06474333 15.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 77.2
Polish 0.05488822 15.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 77.0
Icelandic 0.03101235 0.0 19.6 0.0 0.0 4.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 76.0
Norwegian 0.02733377 0.0 20.2 0.0 0.0 4.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.8
Polish_Silesian 0.05013052 18.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.6
Irish 0.02787562 0.0 22.8 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.4
Danish 0.02895688 0.0 21.2 0.0 0.0 3.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 75.4
Scottish 0.02589761 0.0 23.8 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 74.4
English 0.02688145 0.0 26.0 0.0 0.0 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 72.0
Welsh 0.02476282 0.0 26.4 0.0 0.0 2.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 71.6
English_Cornwall 0.02888366 0.0 27.2 0.0 0.0 1.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 71.0
German 0.02504445 9.2 17.2 0.0 0.0 2.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 70.8
French_Seine-Maritime 0.02717179 10.4 17.4 3.2 0.0 1.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 67.8
Swiss_German 0.01684561 14.8 20.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 64.8
Portuguese 0.01461753 7.4 32.0 10.4 0.0 1.8 0.0 5.8 0.4 42.2


I am between Finnish and Russian Krasnoborsky
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 05:52 PM
I am between Finnish and Russian Krasnoborsky

Target: Belarusian
Distance: 6.9024% / 0.06902397
79.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
11.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
8.6 France_Rochedane (Wow)
0.2 KOR_Yokchido
cass
06-11-2024, 05:53 PM
Balto-Slavic drift. I almost always get high distance.

sounds legit

Target: cass
Distance: 4.4756% / 0.04475566
75.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
17.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
7.0 France_Rochedane
Vessna
06-11-2024, 06:12 PM
here is my husband’s results (Northern Russian):

Target: Hubs_scaled
Distance: 6.5594% / 0.06559367
80.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
9.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
5.6 KOR_Yokchido
4.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
Beowulf
06-11-2024, 06:18 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0198% / 0.01982170
53.5 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
16.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
5.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
2.6 France_Rochedane
1.5 Morocco_EN.SG
rothaer
06-11-2024, 07:00 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 3.5452% / 0.03545213
73.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
18.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
8.2 France_Rochedane
0.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 3.9308% / 0.03930808
77.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
6.2 France_Rochedane
4.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
Kostek
06-11-2024, 07:29 PM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 6.9114% / 0.06911413
79.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
14.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
6.0 France_Rochedane
Nurzat
06-11-2024, 07:36 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 3.8350% / 0.03834967
67.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
4.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
3.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
1.8 KOR_Yokchido
1.6 France_Rochedane

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 4.9750% / 0.04974985
71.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
24.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
2.6 KOR_Yokchido
2.0 France_Rochedane

quite a difference to Romanians from other regions - us above are from Moldova region in northern and northeastern Romania, this friend below is from Gorj county, Oltenia region, southern towards southwestern and southcentral Romania (original coords, not simulated):

Target: Gorj_county_Romania
Distance: 3.7439% / 0.03743942
53.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
31.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
12.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
2.2 KOR_Yokchido
1.2 Vanuatu_3000BP
Feiichy
06-11-2024, 08:20 PM
quite a difference to Romanians from other regions - us above are from Moldova region in northern and northeastern Romania, this friend below is from Gorj county, Oltenia region, southern towards southwestern and southcentral Romania (original coords, not simulated):

Target: Gorj_county_Romania
Distance: 3.7439% / 0.03743942
53.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
31.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
12.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
2.2 KOR_Yokchido
1.2 Vanuatu_3000BP

your father is ethnic Ukrainian from Romania. What is so weird about that? Ukrainians and Romanians are not that similar genetically.
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 08:21 PM
quite a difference to Romanians from other regions - us above are from Moldova region in northern and northeastern Romania, this friend below is from Gorj county, Oltenia region, southern towards southwestern and southcentral Romania (original coords, not simulated):

Target: Gorj_county_Romania
Distance: 3.7439% / 0.03743942
53.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
31.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
12.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
2.2 KOR_Yokchido
1.2 Vanuatu_3000BP

Only roughly one great-grandparent worth of DNA different.
Scandal
06-11-2024, 08:22 PM
Target: univ_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 5.0966% / 0.05096594
73.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
16.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
5.2 France_Rochedane
4.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
majevica
06-11-2024, 08:28 PM
Target: scaled(AncestryDNA)
Distance: 4.3550% / 0.04354972
59.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
7.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
4.8 France_Rochedane
1.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic

Barcin_C is a not ANF/EEF, but Copper Age Anatolian

0.026 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C = 60% Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps + 40% TUR_Barcin_N
celticdragongod
06-11-2024, 10:41 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.06701569 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.17901686 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.18982921 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.21733792 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.22662238 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.23197944 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.23426828 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.23430002 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.24379244 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.33477902 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.44049315 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.46344126 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.47968618 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.49284450 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.49472502 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.49533808 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.49550845 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.50911754 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.52390427 KOR_Yokchido
0.53019439 JPN_Jomon
0.62133773 Vanuatu_3000BP:I5266

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.3671% / 0.03367065
75.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
23.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 11:03 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.06701569 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.17901686 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.18982921 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.21733792 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.22662238 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.23197944 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.23426828 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.23430002 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.24379244 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.33477902 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.44049315 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.46344126 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.47968618 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.49284450 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.49472502 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.49533808 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.49550845 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.50911754 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.52390427 KOR_Yokchido
0.53019439 JPN_Jomon
0.62133773 Vanuatu_3000BP:I5266

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.3671% / 0.03367065
75.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
23.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane

Try adding Bichon WHG and see what you get. Mine changes a LOT:


Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 2.1924% / 0.02192435
51.0 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
29.2 HG_Bichon_WHG
16.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
2.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.8 Vanuatu_3000BP
0.2 Morocco_LN.SG


HG_Bichon_WHG,0.140166,0.122350,0.084574,0.077791, 0.045689,0.027402,0.009327,0.011531,0.005559,-0.018410,-0.004754,-0.005216,0.009257,0.014722,0.010371,0.003168,-0.008464,0.000640,0.005251,0.007869,0.008411,-0.001316,-0.001408,0.005667,0.008065
Nurzat
06-11-2024, 11:38 PM
Only roughly one great-grandparent worth of DNA different.

20% on the main component is not that - also, 1/8 ancestry would not be that selective to take 1/8 of that component alone.

plus, if you don't see around 20% difference in one component relevant for a difference within the same country, then the around 5% that separates you from northeast Romanians on that main component makes you a Romanian? or the fact that my dad's result on this calculator on the main two components is the same as Austrian members. my point was the regional variation is above what I expected for this calculator - usually it doesn't show like that, so I was curious why. did you use ancient Sintashta samples? if so, it means people in my region have a particular affinity to Sintashta or an ancestry component similar to Sintashta that those in other regions in Romania don't have



your father is ethnic Ukrainian from Romania. What is so weird about that? Ukrainians and Romanians are not that similar genetically.

I mention it because it's shown the same by Romanian ethnics from the same territory, which is interesting - ethnic separation between Romanians and Ruthenians in northern half of Moldova region only makes for a small difference on average in the Balto-Slavic-like component, showing some particular ancestry in Romanians in Moldova region compared to the rest of Romania (Medieval Hungarian and German presence in the area is underestimated, older Slavic and Scythian presence is underestimated as well, plus all Neolithic-like ancestry is placed on the Vlachs, which should not be the case, I think, since the place has a rich Neolithic history and proven continuity in haplogroups, both Neolithic and post-Yamnaya)
Coastal Elite
06-11-2024, 11:46 PM
Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 2.0912% / 0.02091173
68.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
16.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
9.4 EF-Balkans_Neolithic
3.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
0.8 KOR_Yokchido
0.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 11:46 PM
20% on the main component is not that - also, 1/8 ancestry would not be that selective to take 1/8 of that component alone.

plus, if you don't see around 20% difference in one component relevant for a difference within the same country, then the around 5% that separates you from northeast Romanians on that main component makes you a Romanian? or the fact that my dad's result on this calculator on the main two components is the same as Austrian members. my point was the regional variation is above what I expected for this calculator - usually it doesn't show like that, so I was curious why. did you use ancient Sintashta samples? if so, it means people in my region have a particular affinity to Sintashta or an ancestry component similar to Sintashta that those in other regions in Romania don't have

I used the Ancient Pop Ave Scaled Sintashta_MLBA sample. You could try it with all the individual Ancient Scaled samples in place of the averaged one?
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 11:54 PM
quite a difference to Romanians from other regions - us above are from Moldova region in northern and northeastern Romania, this friend below is from Gorj county, Oltenia region, southern towards southwestern and southcentral Romania (original coords, not simulated):


Target: Nurzat
Distance: 3.8350% / 0.03834967
67.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
4.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
3.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
1.8 KOR_Yokchido
1.6 France_Rochedane

Target: Gorj_county_Romania
Distance: 3.7439% / 0.03743942
53.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
31.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
12.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
2.2 KOR_Yokchido
1.2 Vanuatu_3000BP


What I was saying is the Sintashta difference between your result and Gorj-county is roughly 12.5% different (one great-grandparent worth of DNA, on average). You get 29.2% EEF and look, Gorj gets that 12.5% difference in Sintashta in the EEF difference: Gorj is 43.6% EEF.

So while you get that 1/8 more Sintashta, they get the 1/8 more EEF, more or less.

Now I want to see how you did/do on the Modern Euro K4 V3 calc I posted. Also, which groups score closest to you for that 53% Sintashta? Did you check?
ScandinavianCelt
06-11-2024, 11:59 PM
20% on the main component is not that - also, 1/8 ancestry would not be that selective to take 1/8 of that component alone.

plus, if you don't see around 20% difference in one component relevant for a difference within the same country, then the around 5% that separates you from northeast Romanians on that main component makes you a Romanian? or the fact that my dad's result on this calculator on the main two components is the same as Austrian members. my point was the regional variation is above what I expected for this calculator - usually it doesn't show like that, so I was curious why. did you use ancient Sintashta samples? if so, it means people in my region have a particular affinity to Sintashta or an ancestry component similar to Sintashta that those in other regions in Romania don't have




I mention it because it's shown the same by Romanian ethnics from the same territory, which is interesting - ethnic separation between Romanians and Ruthenians in northern half of Moldova region only makes for a small difference on average in the Balto-Slavic-like component, showing some particular ancestry in Romanians in Moldova region compared to the rest of Romania (Medieval Hungarian and German presence in the area is underestimated, older Slavic and Scythian presence is underestimated as well, plus all Neolithic-like ancestry is placed on the Vlachs, which should not be the case, I think, since the place has a rich Neolithic history and proven continuity in haplogroups, both Neolithic and post-Yamnaya)

here are the full individual samples:

Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I0939,0.132035,0.11577,0.057 699,0.082365,0.017849,0.035698,0.00705,0.001154,-0.024543,-0.040821,-0.004872,0.008093,-0.010258,-0.018441,0.027416,0.009414,-0.003912,-0.000507,0.003268,0.006503,-0.009733,0.000742,0.000986,0.017472,-0.002036
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I0942,0.119514,0.126941,0.07 0899,0.080427,0.008001,0.023706,0.020446,0.009,-0.015748,-0.018953,-0.01088,-0.001499,-0.006392,-0.040323,0.017915,0.030893,0.012386,0.00228,0.0047 77,-0.011631,-0.001123,0.008903,0.008997,0.00253,-0.017244
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I0943,0.122929,0.119832,0.06 8636,0.072998,0.010463,0.026216,0.008695,0.007384,-0.009408,-0.019317,-0.000162,0.008243,0.004608,-0.007156,0.028094,-0.003447,-0.025164,0.002534,-0.004148,-0.004627,-0.00262,-0.000495,-0.006779,0.003133,0.000838
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I0984,0.124067,0.118817,0.05 8831,0.078489,0.019696,0.031236,0.00188,0.000923,-0.020452,-0.031891,0.001786,0,-0.006392,-0.01156,0.011943,0.004375,-0.00665,0.003421,-0.004022,0.002251,-0.00574,0.001237,0.006039,0.006266,-0.00455
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I0986,0.133173,0.109677,0.05 9208,0.09044,0.007386,0.023706,0.00987,0.005538,-0.016157,-0.03098,-0.001624,0.015586,-0.01442,-0.016377,0.021444,0.017634,0.01017,0.00076,-0.005656,0.003001,-0.015597,0.005193,-0.000493,0.020846,-0.015208
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I0989,0.127482,0.117801,0.05 6945,0.082688,0.008309,0.024263,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.028633,-0.033714,0.003248,-0.010341,-0.003271,-0.013625,0.016422,0.021612,-0.003129,0.004054,-0.003645,0.008129,0.004118,-0.002226,0.010106,-0.005061,-0.000599
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1008,0.138864,0.120848,0.05 9962,0.086887,0.002154,0.031794,0.011516,0.006692,-0.023929,-0.034989,-0.008931,0.001948,-0.005798,-0.024359,0.029723,-0.015248,-0.031553,0.00114,-0.004022,-0.004752,-0.003868,-0.001607,0.002218,0.015062,0.008861
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1011,0.124067,0.116786,0.05 3551,0.076228,0.019388,0.025937,0.00423,0.006,-0.016566,-0.024237,-0.006983,0.00015,-0.004757,-0.025185,0.019679,0.021745,0.010691,0.00266,-0.002514,-0.00075,-0.004367,0.00136,0.003944,0.009881,-0.007185
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1012,0.120652,0.118817,0.05 5437,0.083334,0.01231,0.039881,0.006815,0.004384,-0.006545,-0.019864,0.000325,-0.001649,0.010704,-0.014038,0.014794,0.007425,-0.022296,0.003801,0.008422,0.002376,0.011355,0.005 935,0.00456,0,-0.003113
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1018,0.122929,0.111708,0.06 2225,0.080104,0.007386,0.020917,0.005875,0.006231,-0.009204,-0.024237,-0.007957,-0.003597,0.011744,-0.014175,0.022665,0.014054,-0.011995,0.004307,0.002891,-0.00988,0.000998,0.001607,0.007025,0.006266,-0.012454
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1019,0.122929,0.122879,0.05 1666,0.069122,0.009232,0.018686,0.00658,0.002538,-0.022702,-0.026971,-0.000974,-0.002698,-0.008325,-0.029314,0.024565,0.027446,0.01369,-0.000887,-0.00088,0.009755,-0.015597,0.000989,-0.006039,0.01446,-0.007065
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1022,0.125205,0.113739,0.06 0339,0.070737,0.004308,0.041834,0.006345,0.001154,-0.02168,-0.033531,-0.001949,0.005845,-0.006244,-0.01734,0.029723,0.016706,-0.008605,-0.003294,0.003771,0.004877,0.001622,-0.011994,0.002588,0.003856,-0.000838
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1024,0.133173,0.112724,0.06 4111,0.072998,0.016311,0.03263,0.00611,0.013846,-0.005522,-0.021868,-0.004709,0.007793,-0.006392,-0.023946,0.015472,0.011005,0.007953,-0.003421,0.001634,0.001751,-0.009608,0.006677,-0.00493,-0.000241,-0.003712
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1027,0.122929,0.132019,0.05 506,0.079458,0.004616,0.03263,0.002115,0.002769,-0.010431,-0.026242,-0.002436,0.001798,-0.002973,-0.01968,0.021715,0.005304,-0.009257,0.007095,-0.001006,-0.002001,-0.000873,0.002226,0.007518,0.004097,-0.008263
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1029,0.124067,0.112724,0.06 1471,0.087856,0.015387,0.034025,0.006345,0.003692,-0.022702,-0.030798,-0.001624,-0.005845,0.003568,-0.028075,0.025515,0.02254,0.003129,-0.000887,-0.002388,-0.006878,-0.008859,0.005564,0.001725,0.019039,-0.001197
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1053,0.134311,0.119832,0.05 6191,0.068153,0.01908,0.026216,0.003525,0.005769,-0.01493,-0.029704,-0.000487,0.006145,-0.005352,-0.022295,0.016558,0.017502,0.010691,-0.005321,0.001006,-0.004252,-0.00262,0.002473,0.003081,-0.001446,-0.008382
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1055,0.127482,0.118817,0.04 5632,0.077843,0.008925,0.034582,0.003525,-0.003461,-0.017794,-0.034989,-0.010068,0,-0.013231,-0.022157,0.024973,0.016971,-0.004042,-0.007095,-0.003897,0.002376,-0.019091,0.002844,0.005546,0.015303,0.002395
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1060,0.119514,0.114755,0.06 4865,0.092378,0.013849,0.014781,0.014571,0.010846,-0.012885,-0.024237,-0.017213,-0.002847,-0.001041,-0.006331,0.029044,0.008088,-0.012126,-0.004687,0.001006,0.004377,-0.004991,-0.004699,0.013927,-0.001084,-0.003353
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1061,0.130897,0.118817,0.05 1666,0.079458,0.006463,0.041555,-0.00188,0.001154,-0.022907,-0.034989,0.005034,-0.008393,0.00223,-0.031516,0.023751,0.021082,-0.00352,-0.007095,0.001885,-0.005503,-0.004991,-0.005317,0.009737,0.006627,-0.006466
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1062,0.125205,0.121864,0.05 1666,0.071383,0.012618,0.028726,-0.00564,0.004154,-0.022293,-0.030798,-0.00065,-0.005095,-0.004014,-0.030139,0.032573,0.029965,0.019036,-0.003294,0.014832,0.006628,-0.017719,0.002473,0.006779,0.011809,-0.013532
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1063,0.121791,0.096475,0.04 3369,0.059432,0.009848,0.028447,0.00282,0.006231,-0.019225,-0.019864,0.004384,0.000599,-0.001338,-0.003853,0.016151,0.004375,-0.02373,0.004434,0.001257,-0.006253,-0.001996,0.003091,0.004683,0.001325,-0.006227
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1064,0.125205,0.107646,0.06 8636,0.083011,0.018773,0.034582,-0.004935,-0.003,-0.013499,-0.02606,-0.002273,0.001649,-0.001933,-0.02257,0.031487,0.011933,-0.014733,0.000127,-0.006411,0.001626,-0.005116,0.006306,-0.004683,0.00735,0.00012
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1065,0.125205,0.11577,0.050 157,0.059755,0.001539,0.03012,0.00611,0.002769,-0.02352,-0.02442,-0.008931,0.009442,-0.013825,-0.026286,0.019408,0.014452,0.013038,0.010008,-0.004525,0.004377,-0.01435,0.010263,0.000616,0.001205,0
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1082,0.1161,0.108662,0.0633 56,0.083011,0.011079,0.027331,0.00517,0.002308,-0.025156,-0.031527,-0.006496,0.00015,0.000743,-0.02257,0.025515,0.010872,-0.007302,0.008868,-0.006662,0.004127,-0.007237,0.00507,-0.003451,0.011447,0.007424
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1084,0.127482,0.126941,0.06 0339,0.07752,0.020311,0.016733,0.00752,0.000692,-0.007976,-0.020775,-0.003085,0.012439,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.025515,-0.001061,-0.022035,-0.004181,-0.005028,-0.003877,-0.005865,0.002597,0.005176,0.005422,0.002036
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1086,0.130897,0.109677,0.06 2225,0.075582,0.013849,0.022032,0.016451,0.003,-0.024134,-0.024237,0.001461,0.002997,0.004757,-0.017753,0.019951,0.005038,-0.005998,-0.005448,-0.007793,-0.001376,-0.004991,-0.003833,-0.001972,0.005061,-0.003113
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1088,0.120652,0.106631,0.05 0157,0.090117,0.010156,0.032072,0.002115,0.008307,-0.013908,-0.040639,0.007795,-0.010641,0.013825,-0.027387,0.021987,0.020021,-0.000391,0.005321,-0.00352,-0.005378,-0.013601,0.002473,-0.006039,0.012291,-0.002036
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1089,0.125205,0.116786,0.05 1288,0.08398,0.012925,0.028447,0.006345,0.006923,-0.014726,-0.032802,0.001949,0.003747,0,-0.023946,0.022937,0.024529,0.004694,-0.00266,-0.000251,0.001501,-0.004866,0.002102,0.000986,0.004338,-0.003473
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I1090,0.12862,0.126941,0.053 551,0.076874,0.010771,0.031236,0.00893,0.005077,-0.018816,-0.024602,0.007632,-0.001049,-0.003271,-0.021194,0.026737,-0.00411,-0.018123,-0.001014,0.003394,0.000375,-0.010107,0.00136,0.004683,0.004579,0.001197
Russia_MLBA_Sintashta:I7480,0.124067,0.117801,0.05 4305,0.086564,0.007078,0.032909,0.007285,0.003923,-0.016771,-0.030069,-0.000487,0.003597,0.003271,-0.025735,0.022665,0.002387,-0.021253,-0.000887,0.007668,-0.007003,0.000749,0.003339,0.003697,0.006025,-0.002634
ScandinavianCelt
06-12-2024, 12:09 AM
@Nurzat -- I ran all Sintashta samples against all modern pop ave scaled samples and they link most to, in this order:

Icelandic
Finnish Southeast
Irish
Darginian
Latvian
ScandinavianCelt
06-12-2024, 12:25 AM
@Nurzat

https://i.postimg.cc/htSk5NrS/mold-rom-vs-sintashta-eef.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
hazmatnik
06-12-2024, 01:42 AM
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 5.2770% / 0.05277009
59.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
34.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
5.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
1.0 Vanuatu_3000BP
Nurzat
06-12-2024, 07:06 AM
@Nurzat

https://i.postimg.cc/htSk5NrS/mold-rom-vs-sintashta-eef.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

thanks

https://i.imgur.com/CNfY8G1.png

https://i.imgur.com/QnyV6Xt.png

https://i.imgur.com/KBg7Ous.png
ZeDude
06-12-2024, 08:56 AM
Target: ZeDude
Distance: 3.1383% / 0.03138305
49.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
20.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
7.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
1.6 France_Rochedane
Pater Patota
06-12-2024, 11:11 AM
Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 4.6972% / 0.04697230
77.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
14.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
5.6 KOR_Yokchido
1.4 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG
1.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

As a part Circassian I always get high Eurasian scores
Demirkazık
06-12-2024, 11:28 AM
Target: Grandfather
Distance: 5.5162% / 0.05516201
51.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
25.0 KOR_Yokchido
21.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
2.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

Target: Father
Distance: 4.1458% / 0.04145813
64.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
19.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
12.8 KOR_Yokchido
3.0 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

Target: Mother
Distance: 4.7273% / 0.04727321
60.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
19.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
17.8 KOR_Yokchido
2.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

Target: Demir
Distance: 4.4110% / 0.04410989
61.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
21.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
15.8 KOR_Yokchido
1.6 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
ScandinavianCelt
06-12-2024, 12:06 PM
<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/y2fGX9M5" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>



Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 2.7846% / 0.02784553
77.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
0.6 France_Rochedane
0.4 KOR_Yokchido
0.2 Vanuatu_3000BP

NO ADC, aggregate.

If you put the calc samples as TARGET and G25 Modern Pop Ave Scaled as SOURCE, you can run the "MULTI" function on Vahaduo and then model yourself by what each of these match to. Note: if you try this and get several with same % for one, like .2 Vanuatu, choose the one that best matches your distance %.

Mine comes out like this:

Shetlandic: 77.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
Danish: 21.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
French Alsace/French South: 0.6 France_Rochedane
Italian Liguria: 0.4 KOR_Yokchido
Sicilian East: 0.2 Vanuatu_3000BP
Kiel
06-12-2024, 12:38 PM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 2.5868% / 0.02586804
67.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
5.0 France_Rochedane
1.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
Athalafuns
06-13-2024, 12:02 AM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844643
49.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
23.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
10.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
9.4 Morocco_LN.SG
2.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
1.8 France_Rochedane
1.8 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
Rędwald
06-13-2024, 01:00 AM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 2.3114% / 0.02311360
70.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.8 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
2.0 France_Rochedane
0.8 KOR_Yokchido
0.2 Vanuatu_3000BP
Wend-Kruzek
06-13-2024, 10:52 PM
Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 4.7209% / 0.04720883
75.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
19.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
4.6 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.2 KOR_Yokchido
Lemurian
06-16-2024, 02:37 AM
Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 3.2387% / 0.03238685
54.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
17.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
15.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
12.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.8 KOR_Yokchido
Ritz06
06-19-2024, 02:32 PM
Target:
Distance: 2.2881% / 0.02288114
51.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
41.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
5.4 KOR_Yokchido
1.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
0.4 Morocco_LN.SG
Albannach
06-19-2024, 02:46 PM
Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 3.7121% / 0.03712106
76.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
1.6 France_Rochedane
#Oda#
06-21-2024, 07:24 PM
Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 2.7451% / 0.02745106
74.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
15.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
6.0 France_Rochedane
4.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN

Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.06154177 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.17696979 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.19421941 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.21702842 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.22913890 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.23114440 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.23590998 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.23594236 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.24228805 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.32627728 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.44296447 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.46498831 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.48202720 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.49508923 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.49617798 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.49712560 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.49868620 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.50755185 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.52613176 KOR_Yokchido
0.53245541 JPN_Jomon
0.62323395 Vanuatu_3000BP:I5266
de Burgh II
07-04-2024, 02:53 PM
Target: de_Burgh_II
Distance: 2.3197% / 0.02319666
72.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
25.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
2.4 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
keterpier
07-26-2024, 01:36 PM
Target: keterpier_scaled
Distance: 3.5568% / 0.03556785
76.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
14.8 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
6.0 KOR_Yokchido
1.8 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
1.4 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG
unmoggable
08-09-2024, 05:52 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 2.4703% / 0.02470310
74.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
23.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
1.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
0.2 France_Rochedane

0.06696455 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.16336395 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.18413072 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.20655577 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.21797199 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.22198756 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.22275888 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.22469880 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.23253859 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.33729100 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.43344681 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.45625225 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.47323066 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.48610697 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.48806879 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.48844941 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.48932760 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.50442822 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.52033012 KOR_Yokchido
0.52628222 JPN_Jomon
0.61841954 Vanuatu_3000BP:I5266
gixajo
08-09-2024, 06:38 PM
Strange, gixajo_mom usually scores between 15-16% WHG and gixajo_enana about 16-17% and here even I get more WHG than gixajo_mom.

It is also strange that for a calculator not focused on Iberians, almost half are references from North Africa.:)

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.2501% / 0.02250115
45.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
29.8 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
14.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
4.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
4.0 France_Rochedane
1.6 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.8 Morocco_EN.SG

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9583% / 0.01958291
46.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
23.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
23.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
2.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
2.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
2.0 Morocco_EN.SG
0.6 France_Rochedane

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.7202% / 0.02720157
50.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
39.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
5.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
2.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
2.2 France_Rochedane

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 2.7590% / 0.02758970
41.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
23.8 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
7.8 France_Rochedane
1.2 Morocco_EN.SG
vader
08-09-2024, 06:44 PM
Strange, gixajo_mom usually scores between 15-16% WHG and gixajo_enana about 16-17% and here even I get more WHG than gixajo_mom.

It is also strange that for a calculator not focused on Iberians, almost half are references from North Africa.:)

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.2501% / 0.02250115
45.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
29.8 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
14.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
4.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
4.0 France_Rochedane
1.6 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.8 Morocco_EN.SG

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9583% / 0.01958291
46.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
23.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
23.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
2.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
2.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
2.0 Morocco_EN.SG
0.6 France_Rochedane

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.7202% / 0.02720157
50.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
39.6 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
5.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
2.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
2.2 France_Rochedane

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 2.7590% / 0.02758970
41.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
23.8 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
7.8 France_Rochedane
1.2 Morocco_EN.SG

Today, you have been granted the title of most WHG in the family. Tomorrow, that may change, you never know!

My merged:
Target: Merged_scaled
Distance: 1.6779% / 0.01677875
41.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
26.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
9.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
8.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
6.4 Morocco_LN.SG
4.0 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
3.2 France_Rochedane
0.6 JPN_Jomon


Today, I am a Japanese.
Xavier727
01-24-2025, 07:07 PM
Distance to: scaled
0.06017806 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.17541511 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.19375429 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.21758533 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.7218% / 0.02721828
76.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
17.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
4.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
3.0 France_Rochedane
Rafael Passoni
01-24-2025, 07:17 PM
Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 2.5920% / 0.02591993
41.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
37.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
13.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
5.6 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
1.4 Morocco_LN.SG
0.6 KOR_Yokchido
Fistora
01-24-2025, 07:34 PM
Target: Oskar_scaled
Distance: 5.5808% / 0.05580758
71.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
19.8 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
8.0 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
1.0 KOR_Yokchido
Vessna
01-24-2025, 08:28 PM
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Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 2.7846% / 0.02784553
77.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
21.2 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
0.6 France_Rochedane
0.4 KOR_Yokchido
0.2 Vanuatu_3000BP

NO ADC, aggregate.

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.2750% / 0.07274988
79.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
7.8 France_Rochedane
1.0 KOR_Yokchido
ScandinavianCelt
01-24-2025, 10:09 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.2750% / 0.07274988
79.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
7.8 France_Rochedane
1.0 KOR_Yokchido


Looks very Aryan, but why is your distance so high? Baltic-drift, as you say? I don't know. Seems you are lacking proper HG. If we add Karelia_HG, Motala and Norway_N_HG I'm curious if your Aryan becomes HG. Mine doesn't change when adding those 3.


Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 2.7974% / 0.02797354
77.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
18.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
2.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
1.6 France_Rochedane
0.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.4 Morocco_LN.SG

Add these, see if distance improves and things change? You should be the HG Queen Bee here, I would think, being most Baltic I know of.

Sweden_Motala_HG,0.13249,0.088351,0.1648018,0.1895 374,0.0864774,0.0556666,-0.000799,0.0097842,0.0359554,-0.0402014,0.0008444,-0.0217008,0.0314566,-0.0168176,0.0305644,0.0508084,0.006884,0.0045862,-0.005028,0.041945,0.0506108,0.0157042,-0.0202618,-0.097797,0.0062268
Norway_N_HG.SG,0.127482,0.072103,0.154997,0.192186 ,0.051394,0.064982,-0.004465,0.009692,0.022089,-0.056311,0.003085,-0.019633,0.029435,-0.020231,0.026601,0.042826,0.001304,0.001267,0.001 383,0.027263,0.025705,0.004822,-0.012695,-0.056273,0.006826
Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
ScandinavianCelt
01-24-2025, 10:30 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 7.2750% / 0.07274988
79.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
12.0 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
7.8 France_Rochedane
1.0 KOR_Yokchido

If I add Lithuania N Narva, it changes a little for me:


Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 2.7030% / 0.02702988
74.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
14.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
5.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
4.4 Lithuania_EMN_Narva_twin.Kretuonas2
1.4 Morocco_LN.SG
0.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

You can add Narva also to the above 3 HG if you want? Some of these calcs are harder to make for the outliers like you, Sacha, even mostly Mediterranean peeps. Those who are predominantly N-NW-NC are a bit easier to make calcs for, IMO.

Estonia_EMN_Narva,0.1291895,0.096983,0.161219,0.18 49185,0.0890935,0.0591245,-0.0015275,0.017884,0.043768,-0.031618,-0.0036535,-0.0131885,0.0300295,-0.01273,0.03203,0.031954,-0.011669,0.0011405,-0.0060335,0.034954,0.038557,0.0134785,-0.022308,-0.093447,0.004251
Lithuania_EMN_Narva,0.1320347,0.1106928,0.1803263, 0.1842187,0.1199712,0.0524315,0.0108103,0.0286143, 0.0592778,-0.019074,-0.0055213,-0.0195077,0.0273783,0.0045643,0.0325728,0.0470032, 0.0035857,0.0052997,-0.0064943,0.0436457,0.0663412,0.0077283,-0.0292508,-0.1139918,0.0110567
Lithuania_EMN_Narva_twin.Kretuonas2,0.137726,0.106 631,0.184412,0.174744,0.111713,0.049643,0.018801,0 .026076,0.058903,-0.017677,-0.003897,-0.011989,0.033151,0.002615,0.021037,0.039644,0.002 868,0.005068,0.001508,0.039644,0.072622,0.000742,-0.013311,-0.091459,0.009939


My distances:

Distance to: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
0.05866751 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.17270163 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.19542181 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.21855998 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.22109147 Norway_N_HG.SG
0.22840688 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.22988744 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.23328757 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.23472008 Estonia_EMN_Narva
0.23638639 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.23960142 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.24290747 Russia_Karelia_HG
0.24731951 Sweden_Motala_HG
0.25291327 Lithuania_EMN_Narva_twin.Kretuonas2
0.27067147 Lithuania_EMN_Narva
0.33265485 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.43174756 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.45429463 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.47212931 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.48474294 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.48645477 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.48686576 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.48805139 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.49619891 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.51457342 KOR_Yokchido

I think you are more ancient Swede (Motala/SHG) and me more modern, though I do link to those ancients up north. I think Baltic and Eastern Euro gets more SHG than those in Scandinavia today. I could be wrong?
ScandinavianCelt
01-24-2025, 10:44 PM
If you put Sintashta as the target and put your coordinates in with all the modern pop averages as the source you can see where you fit in and mine looks accurate:

Distance to: Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
0.05711735 Swedish
0.05856957 SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
0.05949031 Norwegian
0.06015324 Icelandic
0.06150983 Danish
0.06224360 Shetlandic
0.06343615 Irish
0.06360992 German_Hamburg
0.06435907 Orcadian
0.06480879 Scottish
0.06671255 Dutch
0.06842312 Finnish_Southeast
0.06908645 Finnish_Central
0.06937365 Ingrian
0.06958922 Finnish_Southwest
0.06978775 Czech
0.06994044 German_East
0.07011346 English
0.07016954 Welsh
0.07068045 Afrikaner
0.07118023 Slovakian
0.07124799 Moldovan_o
0.07130006 Russian_Ryazan
0.07139590 Polish_Kashubian
0.07198963 Russian_Kursk

They must have updated the average sample slightly cuz the number is slightly different from the one I originally posted which I think was the ancient pop average scaled but now since it's slightly different they must have updated it
Balboa
01-24-2025, 11:50 PM
Target: Balboa_scaled
Distance: 2.2071% / 0.02207147
33.0 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
28.2 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
16.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
9.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
7.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
4.2 France_Rochedane
2.0 Morocco_EN.SG
Gannicus
01-25-2025, 12:34 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
0.07878829 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.16554320 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.17527156 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.20197750 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.21281846 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.21676238 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.21911206 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.22020223 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.22739239 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.33499636 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.43376602 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.45557770 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.47255157 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.48549413 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.48761553 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.48780401 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.48899354 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.50749418 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.52406041 KOR_Yokchido
0.53003372 JPN_Jomon
0.62220118 Vanuatu_3000BP:I5266

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0314% / 0.03140712 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.5 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
29.5 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN

Target: Gannicus_mergedfile_scaled
Distance: 0.0312% / 0.03124567
69.7 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
29.4 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
0.9 France_Rochedane
R1b-L51
01-25-2025, 12:42 AM
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.2959% / 0.02295927
38.6 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
35.0 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN
16.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
6.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
3.2 France_Rochedane
0.2 Morocco_LN.SG

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.12803918 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
0.12888572 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
0.13108116 EEF-Iberia_Gibraltar_EN:I10942
0.15122513 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
0.16152549 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.16372186 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.1_KEB.8_noUDG.WGC
0.16907100 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.16911151 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.17007255 Morocco_LN.SG:KEB.4_noUDG.WGC
0.35533923 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.38985242 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009_noUDG
0.41152189 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.7_noUDG.WGC
0.42991238 Morocco_EN.SG:IAM.4_IAM.5_noUDG.WGC
0.44161439 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013_noUDG
0.44421293 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011_noUDG
0.44474827 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010_noUDG
0.44494394 Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014_noUDG
0.49470778 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001
0.51568775 KOR_Yokchido
0.51878203 JPN_Jomon
0.61151515 Vanuatu_3000BP:I5266
Ghitza von Pigsty
01-28-2025, 03:46 PM
I also wonder why you get such a high amount of Western hunter-gatherer compared to me I would think I would have at least half of what you get but I don't understand it

Mine's a bit peculiar as well:


With WHG I get decreased Sintashta and a relatively close distance

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 3.9271% / 0.03927056
44.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
27.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
15.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
8.0 France_Rochedane
3.4 Morocco_LN.SG
1.4 KOR_Yokchido


Without WHG I get increased Sintashta almost at 60% which is quite a lot for a wog like me, but the distance is a bit higher

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 4.4691% / 0.04469141
59.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
13.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
10.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
9.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
5.6 Morocco_LN.SG
1.6 KOR_Yokchido


Any idea why the model picks up the WHG portion instead of adding more % to the Sintashta component from the get-go? It's really peculiar for a romanian, I guess...
Thank you in advance man!
Ghitza von Pigsty
01-29-2025, 09:55 AM
if so, it means people in my region have a particular affinity to Sintashta or an ancestry component similar to Sintashta that those in other regions in Romania don't have

Being over 50% Sintashta doesn't automatically make the other romanians have an affinity to Sintashta as well? Sure you're 20% closer than the average...Mine's around 60% if I exclude the WHG component and it's not that different compared to you (for some reason it shaves off 15% of Sintashta if I include the WHG), and I'm quite southern shifted compared to northern moldovans. Thoughts?
Zagrosian
01-29-2025, 10:30 AM
Distance: 6.9789% / 0.06978898
76.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
13.0 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
4.0 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
3.6 KOR_Yokchido
3.2 Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG
Xavier727
01-29-2025, 08:27 PM
If you put Sintashta as the target and put your coordinates in with all the modern pop averages as the source you can see where you fit in and mine looks accurate:

Distance to: Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
0.05711735 Swedish
0.05856957 SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
0.05949031 Norwegian
0.06015324 Icelandic
0.06150983 Danish
0.06224360 Shetlandic
0.06343615 Irish
0.06360992 German_Hamburg
0.06435907 Orcadian
0.06480879 Scottish
0.06671255 Dutch
0.06842312 Finnish_Southeast
0.06908645 Finnish_Central
0.06937365 Ingrian
0.06958922 Finnish_Southwest
0.06978775 Czech
0.06994044 German_East
0.07011346 English
0.07016954 Welsh
0.07068045 Afrikaner
0.07118023 Slovakian
0.07124799 Moldovan_o
0.07130006 Russian_Ryazan
0.07139590 Polish_Kashubian
0.07198963 Russian_Kursk

They must have updated the average sample slightly cuz the number is slightly different from the one I originally posted which I think was the ancient pop average scaled but now since it's slightly different they must have updated it


136980
ScandinavianCelt
01-29-2025, 11:16 PM
Mine's a bit peculiar as well:


With WHG I get decreased Sintashta and a relatively close distance

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 3.9271% / 0.03927056
44.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
27.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
15.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
8.0 France_Rochedane
3.4 Morocco_LN.SG
1.4 KOR_Yokchido


Without WHG I get increased Sintashta almost at 60% which is quite a lot for a wog like me, but the distance is a bit higher

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 4.4691% / 0.04469141
59.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
13.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
10.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
9.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
5.6 Morocco_LN.SG
1.6 KOR_Yokchido


Any idea why the model picks up the WHG portion instead of adding more % to the Sintashta component from the get-go? It's really peculiar for a romanian, I guess...
Thank you in advance man!


I'm not entirely sure, but potentially you get HG not from Rochedane but maybe Koros? Try Koros_HG instead AND something like Ostuni and/or Villabruna?

What does the Modern Pop Ave Scaled sample of Romanian get on this Source I posted? Is your result different from that?
ScandinavianCelt
01-29-2025, 11:40 PM
Mine's a bit peculiar as well:


With WHG I get decreased Sintashta and a relatively close distance

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 3.9271% / 0.03927056
44.4 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
27.4 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
15.4 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
8.0 France_Rochedane
3.4 Morocco_LN.SG
1.4 KOR_Yokchido


Without WHG I get increased Sintashta almost at 60% which is quite a lot for a wog like me, but the distance is a bit higher

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 4.4691% / 0.04469141
59.2 Sintashta_Russia_MLBA
13.6 EEF-Balkans_Neolithic
10.2 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_N
9.8 EEF-TUR_Marmara_Barcin_C
5.6 Morocco_LN.SG
1.6 KOR_Yokchido


Any idea why the model picks up the WHG portion instead of adding more % to the Sintashta component from the get-go? It's really peculiar for a romanian, I guess...
Thank you in advance man!

Which raw data did you use?

Here's where your 8% fits you to Rochedane:

https://i.postimg.cc/dVs7H2v4/sintashta-rochedane-GD8-hghlt2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/svLD1ZMh)
Ghitza von Pigsty
01-30-2025, 06:47 AM
What does the Modern Pop Ave Scaled sample of Romanian get on this Source I posted? Is your result different from that?

Yep, it's a little bit different from the romanian average, in the sense that if I include France_rochedane, it'll shave off around 15% from my Sintashta, but if I exclude it it'll give me more or less the same Sintashta as the romanian average. Not sure why it does that, but it's interesting nonetheless, maybe there's kind of affinty to that component, coming from a recent slavic ancestor. Not sure if it helps, but my raw data is from 23andme. Anyway, thanks a lot man!

With France_rochedane
136983

Without France_rochedane
136984