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Mansour96
06-15-2024, 09:20 AM
My aunt is Brazilian with far Spanish and Italian origins, she has Brazilian admixture and maybe Jewish converted to Christianity.

But one thing strange is that her coordinates distance are big in all calculators like up 2.2 to 4.3 of distance, what happen? This is normal ?

Maria_Scaled,0.100165,0.142173,0.009051,-0.010336,0.026159,-0.001394,-0.003055,-0.014538,0.009408,0.015673,-0.010067,0.001648,-0.008325,0.005092,0.015879,-0.009945,-0.032727,0.004181,0.001634,-0.007878,-0.001746,0.014837,-0.00382,-0.003494,-0.010179

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 3.4544% / 0.03454426 | ADC: 2x RC
44.6 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
37.0 Italian_Tuscany:PG731
18.4 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 3.2481% / 0.03248115 | ADC: 1x RC
50.6 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
33.4 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_11
16.0 Italian_Tuscany:PG731

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 2.7569% / 0.02756884 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.8 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
12.6 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo9
12.2 EmiratiC:APPG7555900
9.8 Greek_Laconia:LA-73
9.6 German:GRC10044063_German29

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 2.3131% / 0.02313142 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.8 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
17.8 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
17.0 Mountain_Jew_Dagestan:GRC11053380
3.2 Greek_Laconia:LA-73
2.0 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh_East:BRG001
1.2 Biaka:HGDP00458
0.8 Bolivian_Pando:Bolivian72
0.8 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey:IGPKRMTUR005
0.4 Italian_Campania:CMP_b003_2

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 2.1462% / 0.02146184
27.8 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
23.6 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:CAL053
11.6 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh:9238348120_R03C02
11.4 Dutch:GSM1633952
6.0 SaudiB:APPG7555955
5.8 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
4.4 Hinukh:GRC11053392
3.0 Armenian_Ararat:GRC11054316
2.2 German:German33
1.8 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh_East:BRG001
1.2 Surui:HGDP00832
0.6 Biaka:HGDP00455
0.6 Mbuti:A_Mbuti-5.DG



Distance to: Maria_Scaled
0.04265979 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74
0.04302473 Italian_Tuscany:PG731
0.04327462 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.04710631 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany38
0.04740640 Italian_Marche:MarADG030D
0.04907779 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_11
0.04913844 Italian_Liguria:ALP099
0.04942271 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont136
0.04959085 Italian_Marche:MarACO060D
0.04967128 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.05048485 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo21
0.05059654 Italian_Emilia:ALP156
0.05061765 Greek_West_Taygetos:MMA-28
0.05067742 Italian_Emilia:ALP392
0.05074364 French_Provence:S_34
0.05132231 Italian_Tuscany:PG2012_639
0.05136000 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont145
0.05139263 Italian_Tuscany:NA20508
0.05145197 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo9
0.05175013 Sicilian_West:WestSicilian10H
0.05183594 German:GRC10044063_German29
0.05187977 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.05203993 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany98
0.05204224 Greek_East_Taygetos:LA-59
0.05216613 Italian_Umbria:PG734




Now average pop


Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 3.1555% / 0.03155549
34.4 Basque_French
33.8 Karaite_Iraq
26.4 French_Seine-Maritime
2.2 Georgian_Mtiuleti
1.2 Surui
0.8 Ju_hoan_North
0.6 Biaka
0.6 Brahmin_Telugu_Niyogi



Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 4.9138% / 0.04913844 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Italian_Liguria

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 4.5336% / 0.04533606 | ADC: 1x RC
54.4 Italian_Liguria
25.8 Sicilian_West
19.8 Turkish_Thessaly

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 3.6639% / 0.03663925 | ADC: 0.5x RC
33.4 French_Seine-Maritime
28.0 Karaite_Iraq
26.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
9.4 Italian_Liguria
3.2 EmiratiC

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 3.1715% / 0.03171525 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Karaite_Iraq
31.4 Basque_French
30.0 French_Seine-Maritime
1.4 Khomani_San
1.2 Karitiana

Target: Maria_Scaled
Distance: 3.1555% / 0.03155549
34.4 Basque_French
33.8 Karaite_Iraq
26.4 French_Seine-Maritime
2.2 Georgian_Mtiuleti
1.2 Surui
0.8 Ju_hoan_North
0.6 Biaka
0.6 Brahmin_Telugu_Niyogi

Distance to: Maria_Scaled
0.04913844 Italian_Liguria
0.05463175 Italian_Emilia
0.05473427 Italian_Tuscany
0.05505000 Italian_Piedmont
0.05506799 Italian_Marche
0.05515960 Sicilian_West
0.05712867 Turkish_Thessaly
0.05717254 Italian_Lombardy
0.05733246 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.05752873 Greek_Thessaly
0.05889849 Italian_Umbria
0.06007912 Italian_Lazio
0.06016830 Spanish_Menorca
0.06039745 Spanish_Eivissa
0.06045144 Italian_Abruzzo
0.06087311 Spanish_Andalucia
0.06091668 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.06110024 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.06138515 Italian_Bergamo
0.06148380 Greek_East_Taygetos
0.06159735 Swiss_Italian
0.06167777 Sicilian_East
0.06173142 Greek_Messenia
0.06177383 Italian_Molise
0.06187565 Greek_Macedonia

Jingle Bell
06-15-2024, 11:35 AM
She for sure got some recent MENA, she looks like Half South Italian/Half Iberian

ScandinavianCelt
06-15-2024, 11:38 AM
Which company did she get her DNA tested with?

Mansour96
06-15-2024, 11:42 AM
She for sure got some recent MENA, she looks like Half South Italian/Half Iberian

Yes!! And about distances in calculators admixture ? U see ? So far

Mansour96
06-15-2024, 11:43 AM
Which company did she get her DNA tested with?

My heritage

ScandinavianCelt
06-15-2024, 11:59 AM
My heritage

That is probably why her distances are showing up higher.

Jingle Bell
06-15-2024, 01:11 PM
Yes!! And about distances in calculators admixture ? U see ? So far

Yeah, prob the sample were contaminated, or a bad coraverage, but its happen sometimes, if is less than 3 is "ok"

Mansour96
06-16-2024, 12:23 AM
Yeah, prob the sample were contaminated, or a bad coraverage, but its happen sometimes, if is less than 3 is "ok"


Here is from ftdna

MOM_Scaled,0.0992041,0.1408215,0.0106944,-0.0101128,0.0277151,-0.0001955,-0.0036808,-0.013623,0.0101715,0.0166999,-0.0095459,0.0018319,-0.0086205,0.003697,0.0165729,-0.009447,-0.0294309,0.0024695,0.001028,-0.0084282,-0.0011196,0.0128225,-0.0027985,-0.0039638,-0.0084171

Mansour96
06-16-2024, 12:24 AM
That is probably why her distances are showing up higher.

Here is from ftdna

MOM_Scaled,0.0992041,0.1408215,0.0106944,-0.0101128,0.0277151,-0.0001955,-0.0036808,-0.013623,0.0101715,0.0166999,-0.0095459,0.0018319,-0.0086205,0.003697,0.0165729,-0.009447,-0.0294309,0.0024695,0.001028,-0.0084282,-0.0011196,0.0128225,-0.0027985,-0.0039638,-0.0084171

Jingle Bell
06-16-2024, 12:51 AM
Here is from ftdna

MOM_Scaled,0.0992041,0.1408215,0.0106944,-0.0101128,0.0277151,-0.0001955,-0.0036808,-0.013623,0.0101715,0.0166999,-0.0095459,0.0018319,-0.0086205,0.003697,0.0165729,-0.009447,-0.0294309,0.0024695,0.001028,-0.0084282,-0.0011196,0.0128225,-0.0027985,-0.0039638,-0.0084171

Yeah, looks the same
She is some kind of SW Euro + North Euro + a lot of MENA

Mansour96
06-16-2024, 02:09 AM
Yeah, looks the same
She is some kind of SW Euro + North Euro + a lot of MENA


The distance is better in Ftdna but still higher


Distance to: MOM_Scaled
0.04103172 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
0.04104882 Italian_Tuscany:PG731
0.04118115 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74
0.04494709 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany38
0.04593792 Italian_Liguria:ALP099
0.04676711 Italian_Marche:MarADG030D
0.04700994 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont136
0.04731563 French_Provence:S_34
0.04757529 Italian_Emilia:ALP392
0.04769151 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.04801881 Italian_Marche:MarACO060D
0.04807704 Italian_Emilia:ALP156
0.04837652 German:GRC10044063_German29
0.04843512 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_11
0.04864030 Italian_Tuscany:PG2012_639
0.04874447 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont145
0.04884206 Italian_Tuscany:NA20508
0.04963497 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont63
0.04965363 Sicilian_West:WestSicilian10H
0.04981106 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo21
0.04990777 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany98
0.05023521 Greek_West_Taygetos:MMA-28
0.05028947 Spanish_Eivissa:SER064
0.05031267 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.05059991 Turkish_Thessaly:BTK-300.02


Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 1.7822% / 0.01782160
21.2 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
19.4 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
19.0 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:CAL053
11.6 Dutch:GSM1633952
11.4 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh:9238348120_R03C02
5.0 SaudiB:APPG7555955
3.6 Armenian_Ararat:GRC11054316
3.4 Hinukh:GRC11053392
1.8 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh_East:BRG001
1.2 Surui:HGDP00832
1.0 Biaka:HGDP00455
1.0 German:German33
0.4 Mbuti:S_Mbuti-1.DG


Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 1.9371% / 0.01937065 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.8 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
28.6 Spanish_Andalucia:AND46
15.6 Mountain_Jew_Dagestan:GRC11053380
3.2 Arain:ARN006
2.6 Greek_Laconia:LA-73
1.4 Biaka:HGDP00455
0.8 Bolivian_Pando:Bolivian72

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 2.4127% / 0.02412695 | ADC: 0.5x RC
67.0 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
10.0 Greek_Crete:812
7.6 Iranian_Bandari:BanII80
5.4 EmiratiC:APPG7555895
5.0 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo9
3.0 German:GRC10044063_German29
2.0 Italian_Tuscany:PG731


Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 3.1998% / 0.03199788 | ADC: 2x RC
45.8 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
39.0 Italian_Tuscany:PG731
15.2 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 3.0167% / 0.03016747 | ADC: 1x RC
50.8 Spanish_Galicia:GAL20
30.0 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_11
19.2 Italian_Tuscany:PG731



Now average pop

Distance to: MOM_Scaled
0.04593792 Italian_Liguria
0.05159351 Italian_Emilia
0.05208953 Italian_Piedmont
0.05215220 Italian_Tuscany
0.05302410 Sicilian_West
0.05320981 Italian_Marche
0.05428741 Italian_Lombardy
0.05530966 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.05560024 Turkish_Thessaly
0.05560807 Greek_Thessaly
0.05623434 Spanish_Eivissa
0.05624100 Spanish_Menorca
0.05633507 Spanish_Andalucia
0.05661642 Italian_Umbria
0.05776832 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.05781949 Spanish_Extremadura
0.05782830 Portuguese
0.05822526 Italian_Bergamo
0.05824981 Italian_Lazio
0.05830583 Swiss_Italian
0.05898574 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05928159 Spanish_Galicia
0.05937989 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.05952959 Italian_Veneto
0.05956063 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 2.7828% / 0.02782836
36.8 Basque_French
32.4 Karaite_Iraq
25.2 French_Seine-Maritime
2.0 Georgian_Mtiuleti
1.2 Surui
1.0 Biaka
0.8 Brahmin_Telugu_Niyogi
0.6 Ju_hoan_North

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 4.5938% / 0.04593792 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Italian_Liguria

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 4.2360% / 0.04236007 | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 Italian_Liguria
25.4 Sicilian_West
17.4 Turkish_Thessaly

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 3.3391% / 0.03339103 | ADC: 0.5x RC
33.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
30.2 French_Seine-Maritime
24.6 Karaite_Iraq
7.2 Italian_Liguria
4.8 EmiratiC

Target: MOM_Scaled
Distance: 2.7926% / 0.02792569 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.4 Basque_French
33.8 Karaite_Iraq
27.0 French_Seine-Maritime
1.2 Surui
1.0 Brahmin_Rajasthan
0.8 Biaka
0.8 Khomani_San

Ibericus
06-16-2024, 01:33 PM
Nothing strange, looks like a mix of iberian and italian, the high distances is because she seems to have some extra ssa and native American.
And the Jewish and the italian get kinda overlapped, so its there in the mix

Mansour96
06-17-2024, 12:00 AM
Nothing strange, looks like a mix of iberian and italian, the high distances is because she seems to have some extra ssa and native American.
And the Jewish and the italian get kinda overlapped, so its there in the mix

And about distance in admixtures too ?? Like 2,10 etc it's normal too?

Mansour96
07-03-2024, 06:26 AM
Nothing strange, looks like a mix of iberian and italian, the high distances is because she seems to have some extra ssa and native American.
And the Jewish and the italian get kinda overlapped, so its there in the mix

And about distance in admixtures too ?? Like 2,10 etc it's normal too?