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ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 12:13 AM
With more individual samples I used in the Euro K4 calc, I think this will make it more modern for Northern and Western Europeans. My Slavic shifts to Western Kashubian, perhaps coming through Sumy? Did Kashubians enter in through Ukraine?


Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.1065% / 0.01106543
34.2 Northern.v3:Ireland
33.2 Northern.v3:Scotland
16.2 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
10.0 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
2.0 Eastern.v3:Tat_Dagestan_Dzhalgan
1.4 SouthEastAsian:LAO_Hoabinhian
1.0 Eastern.v3:Mari
0.8 MiddleEastern:Levant_SYR_Tell_Masaikh
0.6 Eastern.v3:Tat_Dagestan_Nyugdi
0.6 Amerindian:Bahamas_EleutheraIsl_Ceramic


Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.3877% / 0.01387676 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.8 Northern.v3:Scotland
21.6 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
9.8 Eastern.v3:Tatar_Mishar
4.8 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Sumy



If you are Western or Northern or Southwestern-Southcentral, your results may change from earlier one today. Easterners prob wouldn't see much difference, but I don't know because I added more non-Slavic, Eastern samples too.

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You can remove the ancient samples if you prefer.

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 12:45 AM
I always plot so much closer to Scandinavian than to English

Distance to: scaled
0.02233839 Northern.v3:Norway
0.02504003 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.02512294 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.02707608 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.02731051 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.02763629 Northern.v3:Wales
0.02808165 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.03000268 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.03034906 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.03046003 Northern.v3:England
0.03374841 Western.v3:Germany
0.03932391 Western.v3:Belgium
0.04037439 Western.v3:Austria
0.04331101 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.04770560 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.04958580 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.05228079 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.05362530 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.05618198 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05781715 Western.v3:France
0.06025989 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.06095008 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.06275663 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.06292309 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06418890 Eastern.v3:Moldovan


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0190% / 0.01901133
69.6 Northern.v3
15.3 Western_Slavic
10.1 Western.v3
1.7 Northern
1.6 Eastern
0.6 Southern.v3
0.6 WestAsian
0.4 Amerindian
0.1 SouthEastAsian

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0196% / 0.01957478 | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.9 Northern.v3
20.1 Western_Slavic
1.9 Eastern.v3
1.2 Amerindian
0.9 Southern.v3

celticdragongod
06-22-2024, 12:50 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01700079 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.01720422 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.01829041 Northern.v3:England
0.01847668 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.01889336 Northern.v3:Wales
0.01924307 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.01951363 Northern.v3:Norway
0.01968107 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.02181087 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.02970452 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.03049023 Western.v3:Germany
0.03461160 Western.v3:Belgium
0.04160595 Western.v3:Austria
0.04306066 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.04930933 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.05397939 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.05611377 Western.v3:France
0.05821086 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.05849081 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.06102147 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.06193087 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.06207357 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06255158 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
0.06376808 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.06433975 Southern.v3:Bosnia

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4494% / 0.01449441
93.0 Northern.v3
6.4 Western_Slavic
0.6 Eastern.v3

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4494% / 0.01449441
46.6 Northern.v3:England
40.2 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
6.4 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
6.2 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.6 Eastern.v3:Siberia

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 01:11 AM
I always plot so much closer to Scandinavian than to English

Distance to: scaled
0.02233839 Northern.v3:Norway
0.02504003 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.02512294 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.02707608 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.02731051 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.02763629 Northern.v3:Wales
0.02808165 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.03000268 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.03034906 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.03046003 Northern.v3:England
0.03374841 Western.v3:Germany
0.03932391 Western.v3:Belgium
0.04037439 Western.v3:Austria
0.04331101 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.04770560 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.04958580 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.05228079 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.05362530 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.05618198 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05781715 Western.v3:France
0.06025989 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.06095008 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.06275663 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.06292309 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06418890 Eastern.v3:Moldovan


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0190% / 0.01901133
69.6 Northern.v3
15.3 Western_Slavic
10.1 Western.v3
1.7 Northern
1.6 Eastern
0.6 Southern.v3
0.6 WestAsian
0.4 Amerindian
0.1 SouthEastAsian

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0196% / 0.01957478 | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.9 Northern.v3
20.1 Western_Slavic
1.9 Eastern.v3
1.2 Amerindian
0.9 Southern.v3

It seems strange that your Slavic went up and your American Indian went up also as you go further distance ADC

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 10:08 AM
I always plot so much closer to Scandinavian than to English

Distance to: scaled
0.02233839 Northern.v3:Norway
0.02504003 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.02512294 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.02707608 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.02731051 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.02763629 Northern.v3:Wales
0.02808165 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.03000268 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.03034906 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.03046003 Northern.v3:England
0.03374841 Western.v3:Germany
0.03932391 Western.v3:Belgium
0.04037439 Western.v3:Austria
0.04331101 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.04770560 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.04958580 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.05228079 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.05362530 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.05618198 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05781715 Western.v3:France
0.06025989 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.06095008 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.06275663 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.06292309 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06418890 Eastern.v3:Moldovan


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0190% / 0.01901133
69.6 Northern.v3
15.3 Western_Slavic
10.1 Western.v3
1.7 Northern
1.6 Eastern
0.6 Southern.v3
0.6 WestAsian
0.4 Amerindian
0.1 SouthEastAsian

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0196% / 0.01957478 | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.9 Northern.v3
20.1 Western_Slavic
1.9 Eastern.v3
1.2 Amerindian
0.9 Southern.v3

It's the same with me with Swedish even though I'm half Swedish it's always about a distance of 3.1% and there are numerous other ethnicities ahead of it. I think the problem is using averages. If you use the individual samples you probably have closer English like I have my closest sample is Swedish but it's not the scaled average it's a scaled individual sample and there's more than one actually but my closest samples are Swedish and Norwegian when using individual samples.

Grace O'Malley
06-22-2024, 10:13 AM
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01846318 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.01859709 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.01963632 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.01971546 Northern.v3:Norway
0.01983663 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.02203368 Northern.v3:Wales
0.02309925 Northern.v3:England
0.02416060 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.02493577 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.02919872 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.03638233 Western.v3:Germany
0.04031113 Western.v3:Belgium
0.04653338 Western.v3:Austria
0.04816810 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.05583945 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.06031735 Western.v3:France
0.06055514 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.06076095 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.06113184 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.06462540 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.06557739 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.06673803 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
0.06725697 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.07027141 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.07091424 Southern.v3:Bosnia


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6439% / 0.01643886
97.8 Northern.v3
1.2 Eastern.v3
1.0 Eastern


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6439% / 0.01643886
46.4 Northern.v3:Iceland
39.0 Northern.v3:Ireland
12.4 Northern.v3:Wales
1.2 Eastern.v3:Adygei
1.0 Eastern:RUS_Samara_HG


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6548% / 0.01654847 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.4 Northern.v3:Iceland
43.6 Northern.v3:Ireland
6.8 Northern.v3:Denmark
1.2 Eastern.v3:Chechen


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6630% / 0.01662960 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.8 Northern.v3:Ireland
41.6 Northern.v3:Iceland
9.6 Northern.v3:Denmark

cass
06-22-2024, 10:26 AM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.7301% / 0.00730109
61.4 Northern.v3
21.6 Eastern_Slavic
11.0 Southern.v3
4.4 Western_Slavic
1.4 MiddleEastern
0.2 NorthEastAsian


Target: cass
Distance: 0.7312% / 0.00731174
30.0 Northern.v3:Iceland
21.4 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
15.6 Northern.v3:Lithuania
14.0 Northern.v3:Latvian
7.6 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
6.8 Western_Slavic:Czech
3.2 Southern.v3:Sardinian
1.2 MiddleEastern:Levant_SYR_Tell_Masaikh
0.2 SouthEastAsian:KOR_Yokchido

Kostek
06-22-2024, 10:29 AM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 1.8882% / 0.01888246
55.6 Eastern_Slavic:Belarusian
38.6 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
4.8 Southern.v3:Maltese
1.0 MiddleEastern:Levant_SYR_Tell_Masaikh

Distance to: Dawid_scaled
0.02272278 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Sumy
0.02319577 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Smolensk
0.02319577 Eastern.v3:Russian_Smolensk
0.02467611 Eastern_Slavic:Belarusian
0.02485656 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
0.02578310 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.02678470 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.02761696 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.02786216 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Rivne
0.02796080 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Voronez
0.02796080 Eastern.v3:Russian_Voronez
0.02888311 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02926243 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Orel
0.03123335 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03234230 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Kursk
0.03255777 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Kaluga
0.03273777 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Belgorod
0.03301282 Eastern_Slavic:Cossack_Ukrainian
0.03363039 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.03630217 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Ryazan
0.03658928 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Pskov
0.03776533 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.03925954 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.03988133 Northern.v3:Lithuania
0.03989957 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia

Beowulf
06-22-2024, 10:31 AM
<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.01625542
Western.v3:Switzerland


0.01939509
Western.v3:France


0.02193795
Southern.v3:Spanish_Baleares


0.02499153
Southern.v3:Spain


0.03226441
Southern.v3:Portugal


0.03335133
Western.v3:Belgium


0.04264005
Eastern.v3:Romania


0.04393407
Southern.v3:Montenegrin


0.04680249
Western.v3:French_Corsica


0.04691870
Southern_Slavic:Bulgarian


0.04746090
Western.v3:Austria


0.04783113
Southern_Slavic:Serbian


0.04887932
Southern_Slavic:Macedonian


0.05211863
Southern.v3:Italy


0.05289005
Eastern.v3:Moldovan


0.05322709
Caucasian:Gagauz


0.05452134
Northern.v3:Wales


0.05520423
Southern.v3:Albanian


0.05528054
Western.v3:Netherlands


0.05538008
Western.v3:Germany


0.05558898
Northern.v3:England


0.05582195
Southern.v3:Bosnia


0.05588779
Eastern.v3:Hungary


0.05768248
Southern_Slavic:Slovenian


0.06039623
Northern.v3:Scotland


</tbody>


Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0114% / 0.01138727
50.3 Southern.v3
22.4 Northern.v3
13.2 Western.v3
11.2 Western_Slavic
2.9 Eastern.v3



Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0114% / 0.01138706
26.8 Southern.v3:Spanish_Baleares
22.2 Northern.v3:Ireland
13.9 Southern.v3:Sardinian
13.8 Western.v3:Switzerland
11.1 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
6.9 Southern.v3:Portugal
2.8 Eastern.v3:Chechen
2.4 Southern.v3:Cyprus
0.1 Southern.v3:Italy

cass
06-22-2024, 10:35 AM
It makes more sense with ADC

Target: cass
Distance: 0.8542% / 0.00854150 | ADC: 0.25x
79.6 Western_Slavic
14.8 Northern.v3
5.6 Eastern_Slavic

Kiel
06-22-2024, 10:37 AM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.4003% / 0.01400331
32.4 Northern.v3
26.8 Western.v3
15.2 Southern.v3
14.0 Eastern_Slavic
7.6 Western_Slavic
2.2 MiddleEastern
1.8 WestAsian

: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.5967% / 0.01596697 | ADC: 0.5x RC
76.4 Western.v3
23.6 Eastern.v3

Petalpusher
06-22-2024, 10:40 AM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 2.5116% / 0.02511633
55.6 Northern.v3:Iceland
15.2 Southern.v3:Sardinian
11.6 Northern.v3:Wales
9.8 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
7.8 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 2.9067% / 0.02906719 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.2 Northern.v3:Wales
38.0 Western.v3:France
12.8 Western.v3:Austria


Distance to: Petalpusher
0.03192834 Western.v3:Belgium
0.03619595 Western.v3:France
0.03726974 Northern.v3:Wales
0.03858539 Northern.v3:England
0.04194909 Western.v3:Austria
0.04320069 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.04346834 Western.v3:Germany
0.04371354 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.04565065 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.04701109 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.04812851 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.04953944 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.04990868 Northern.v3:Norway
0.05096290 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.05572158 Southern.v3:Spain
0.05615708 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.05632300 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.05800133 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.05818585 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.05858752 Southern.v3:Spanish_Baleares
0.06277641 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
0.06409610 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
0.06566722 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.06839153 Southern.v3:Portugal
0.06866107 Western_Slavic:Slovakian

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 10:48 AM
It's the same with me with Swedish even though I'm half Swedish it's always about a distance of 3.1% and there are numerous other ethnicities ahead of it. I think the problem is using averages. If you use the individual samples you probably have closer English like I have my closest sample is Swedish but it's not the scaled average it's a scaled individual sample and there's more than one actually but my closest samples are Swedish and Norwegian when using individual samples.

Yeah that might be why, any idea where can I get these individual samples from ?

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 10:58 AM
Yeah that might be why, any idea where can I get these individual samples from ?

https://vahaduo.github.io/g25download/

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 11:03 AM
https://vahaduo.github.io/g25download/

cheers mate, is it the RAW samples i need to use

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 11:04 AM
cheers mate, is it the RAW samples i need to use

No, unless you use UNscaled coordinates. Raw means unscaled.

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 11:14 AM
No, unless you use UNscaled coordinates. Raw means unscaled.

Right, so I should just use the 'modern scaled' instead of the modern scaled averages ?

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 11:25 AM
Right, so I should just use the 'modern scaled' instead of the modern scaled averages ?

Yes. I remove Orcadian and Afrikaner to see more country-specific results.

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 11:34 AM
Yes. I remove Orcadian and Afrikaner to see more country-specific results.

Alright, thanks I'll try that

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 12:02 PM
Alright, thanks I'll try that

If you have your full 22-chromosomes, you can label each one by your top two distances, using Modern Scaled, etc.

This is how my chromosomes are labeled with the scaled average of both data sets (Ancestry&23andMe):

Scaled_Averaged, in order 1-22:

Norwegian-English
Norwegian-Swedish
Danish-Dutch
Norwegian-GER.Hamburg
Swedish-Swedish
Swedish-Dutch
Norwegian-Norwegian
Norwegian-Danish
Turkish-Turkish
Swedish-Swedish
BelgianA-BelgianA
FRE.Alsace-German
German-FRE.Alsace
German-German
Swedish-SW.Finnish
Hungarian-GER.Erlangen
Danish-Norwegian
Dutch-Dutch
Norwegian-Scottish
Dutch-Irish
Ukrainian-Moksha
Mordovian-Erzya

Using Ancestry-only (1-22):

Scottish-Scottish
Norwegian-English
Danish-Dutch
GER.Hamburg-Danish
Swedish-Swedish
Swedish-Swedish
Norwegian-Norwegian
Swedish-GER.Hamburg
Turkish-Turkish
Swedish-Swedish
French-Irish
German-French
German-French
German-Romanian
Scottish-Norwegian
Dutch-French
Dutch-Danish
Dutch-Dutch
Irish-Irish
Irish-Irish
Swedish-Dutch
Ukrainian-Russian

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 12:10 PM
This is what I get with Africana and Orcadian removed

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0080% / 0.00801244
19.0 Danish
18.9 Irish
15.3 Swiss_French
11.2 Dutch
7.7 Swedish
7.3 German
6.6 Norwegian
5.0 English
4.0 Scottish
2.4 Akhvakh
0.8 Basque_Navarre_North
0.8 Karitiana
0.5 Mlabri
0.4 Quechua
0.1 Blang

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 12:14 PM
If you have your full 22-chromosomes, you can label each one by your top two distances, using Modern Scaled, etc.

This is how my chromosomes are labeled with the scaled average of both data sets (Ancestry&23andMe):

Scaled_Averaged, in order 1-22:

Norwegian-English
Norwegian-Swedish
Danish-Dutch
Norwegian-GER.Hamburg
Swedish-Swedish
Swedish-Dutch
Norwegian-Norwegian
Norwegian-Danish
Turkish-Turkish
Swedish-Swedish
BelgianA-BelgianA
FRE.Alsace-German
German-FRE.Alsace
German-German
Swedish-SW.Finnish
Hungarian-GER.Erlangen
Danish-Norwegian
Dutch-Dutch
Norwegian-Scottish
Dutch-Irish
Ukrainian-Moksha
Mordovian-Erzya

Using Ancestry-only (1-22):

Scottish-Scottish
Norwegian-English
Danish-Dutch
GER.Hamburg-Danish
Swedish-Swedish
Swedish-Swedish
Norwegian-Norwegian
Swedish-GER.Hamburg
Turkish-Turkish
Swedish-Swedish
French-Irish
German-French
German-French
German-Romanian
Scottish-Norwegian
Dutch-French
Dutch-Danish
Dutch-Dutch
Irish-Irish
Irish-Irish
Swedish-Dutch
Ukrainian-Russian

Yeah, I'm not sure how to do that

Gallop
06-22-2024, 12:15 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.5988% / 0.02598793
35.2 Western.v3:France
30.4 Southern.v3:Sardinian
18.8 Northern.v3:Ireland
7.6 Spanish_Andalucia
5.2 Southern.v3:Maltese
2.8 Eastern:RUS_Samara_HG

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.9714% / 0.02971416
41.6 Southern.v3:Sardinian
20.2 Northern.v3:Ireland
11.8 Southern.v3:Maltese
8.2 Northern.v3:Denmark
7.2 Northern.v3:Latvian
6.8 Spanish_Andalucia
1.6 Western.v3:France
1.4 Northern:RUS_Karelia_HG
1.2 Eastern:RUS_Samara_HG

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 2.7457% / 0.02745671
45.0 Southern.v3:Sardinian
18.2 Northern.v3:Ireland
12.6 Southern.v3:Maltese
8.2 Western.v3:France
5.6 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
5.2 Eastern:RUS_Samara_HG
5.2 Spanish_Andalucia

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 12:46 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how to do that

Do you have your coordinates if you don't you could do simulated I could show you how I could message you the links and you can use Gedmatch results by chromosomes with several of their calculators but I would recommend the Euro genes K13 or k36 or one of the MDLP.

Once you get your coordinates you can use Vahaduo and just put your coordinates as the Target and then use the modern scale as the source and then adjust your settings when you click on the distance tab to show only the top two distances and you could label your core Amazon that way or you could run your results using the 2x for example on the single calculator function and then take the top piece or top two pieces to label your chromosomes.

I experiment with all different sets of chromosomes based on simulated results to plot them and see the similarities or differences and sometimes it's revealing sometimes it's helpful a some are more specific than others. I find it interesting for example that my first eight chromosomes which make up half of my DNA have a very tight area around the composite plot for whatever calculator I use to make the simulated coordinates so for example if I use my one composite set of K13 coordinates on the PCA my first aid chromosomes create an area that's very tight around that one and then my second half of my DNA expands much further outward so I think your first aid chromosomes or your most modern and so maybe just measuring your first eight would show a clearer picture of your modern genetics but I could be wrong.

Also I use DNA genics to create what I think are the best set of 22 chromosomes for each data set because their ancestry plot is virtually identical to the illustrative DNA what people call official plot so I imagine all 22 chromosomes would be somewhat if not equally identical to the overall plot. I need to submit the 23 and me DNA to illustrative DNA to get what people would call official coordinates but I trust DNA genx for my data more than maybe most people do just because it's so similar to the official it's almost identical

Dušan
06-22-2024, 12:50 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0396% / 0.02039558
32.0 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Sumy
29.2 Southern.v3:Albanian
10.4 Eastern.v3:Russian_Smolensk
9.0 Southern.v3:Sardinian
8.4 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Smolensk
5.6 Western_Slavic: Polish_Kashubian
2.8 Southern.v3:Greece
2.6 Eastern.v3:Cherkes



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.3986% / 0.02398650 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.4 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
25.8 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
17.6 Eastern.v3:Moldovan
1.2 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian

Dušan
06-22-2024, 12:53 PM
This Serbian average from Global25_PCA_modern_pop_averages_scaled.txt is more accurate:

Serbian,0.127311,0.137587,0.039943,0.015698,0.0320 68,0.004895,0.004653,0.006411,0.000508,0.001488,-0.001378,-0.001474,0.002859,0.012297,-0.013746,-0.001772,0.00583,0.000289,0.00591,-0.002357,-0.007726,-0.000998,0.00502,-0.000207,-0.001579

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wZr-UOve0KUKo_Qbgeo27m-CQncZWb8y/view

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 12:57 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0396% / 0.02039558
32.0 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Sumy
29.2 Southern.v3:Albanian
10.4 Eastern.v3:Russian_Smolensk
9.0 Southern.v3:Sardinian
8.4 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Smolensk
5.6 Western_Slavic: Polish_Kashubian
2.8 Southern.v3:Greece
2.6 Eastern.v3:Cherkes



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.3986% / 0.02398650 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.4 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
25.8 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
17.6 Eastern.v3:Moldovan
1.2 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian

So when you use individual samples on this second version does your Slavic shift to the east? I'm on my phone and can't easily check at the moment at least not very efficiently I thought I would just ask you. Anyway mine shifts to the west and I think it makes it a more modern picture of where my Slavic background got to me in some way most recently and it makes sense because being half Swedish it's right across the Baltic Sea from Southern Sweden and I know my mother's father's family was from gotland even though some of it went back to the north of Sweden and my mother's mother's side comes from probably Norwegian south east of Oslo into far Western Sweden some of it from Gothenburg and some of it from closer to Oslo in the West.

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 12:59 PM
This is what I get with Africana and Orcadian removed

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0080% / 0.00801244
19.0 Danish
18.9 Irish
15.3 Swiss_French
11.2 Dutch
7.7 Swedish
7.3 German
6.6 Norwegian
5.0 English
4.0 Scottish
2.4 Akhvakh
0.8 Basque_Navarre_North
0.8 Karitiana
0.5 Mlabri
0.4 Quechua
0.1 Blang

Where does it go at .5x, 1x, and 2x?

Dušan
06-22-2024, 01:04 PM
So when you use individual samples on this second version does your Slavic shift to the east?

It is similar with what I get using Global25_PCA_modern_pop_averages_scaled.txt

https://i.imgur.com/9GnGpjT.png

https://i.imgur.com/e4wjCG4.png

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 01:04 PM
Where does it go at .5x, 1x, and 2x?


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0125% / 0.01247285 | ADC: 0.5x RC
27.2 Norwegian
24.2 Irish
21.1 German_Erlangen
11.1 Dutch
9.0 French_Alsace
5.8 Welsh
1.6 Swedish


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0130% / 0.01304691 | ADC: 1x RC
27.1 German_Erlangen
23.7 Irish
20.5 Norwegian
15.5 Welsh
13.2 Dutch

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0183% / 0.01834098 | ADC: 2x RC
52.5 Danish
47.5 Irish

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 01:05 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how to do that

If you want to get really kinky with your source put in the modern scaled the modern scaled averages and the ancient scaled averages all at the same time and then run your single function calculator for your coordinates at 2x. This is what I get when I do that:

Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.6824% / 0.01682368 | ADC: 2x RC
45.4 Orcadian
33.0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG
21.6 Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.8826% / 0.01882628 | ADC: 2x RC
41.0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG
35.2 Orcadian
23.8 Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval

Target: Brad_23andMe_scaled
Distance: 1.4647% / 0.01464658 | ADC: 2x RC
50.4 Scotland_EIA
43.4 Czech_IA
6.2 Orcadian

I haven't removed or Orcadian or Afrikaner. You can also run your 22 chromosomes with this triple source and I think it would show more accurately what you have than just using one set of data sampling.

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 01:13 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0125% / 0.01247285 | ADC: 0.5x RC
27.2 Norwegian
24.2 Irish
21.1 German_Erlangen
11.1 Dutch
9.0 French_Alsace
5.8 Welsh
1.6 Swedish


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0130% / 0.01304691 | ADC: 1x RC
27.1 German_Erlangen
23.7 Irish
20.5 Norwegian
15.5 Welsh
13.2 Dutch

Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0183% / 0.01834098 | ADC: 2x RC
52.5 Danish
47.5 Irish

I think we can conclude that most of us from the northwest are basically Anglo-Saxons, but I guess the fun of it is in figuring out the specific percentages and locations of what we like to call Scandinavian and Northwest European Insular type. The admixture of all these insular people's is more or less quite similar with some maybe minor variations like one group of Scotland could have twice as much Norwegian as South Western England or something like that but really overall the percentages are minor as far as I've seen and the overall admixtures are quite similar for background people groups so we're all very much related to the same people groups if we're from northwestern Europe it's just a matter of when and the proportions.

djipon
06-22-2024, 01:21 PM
Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 1.9349% / 0.01934861 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.0 Southern_Slavic:Bulgarian
16.6 Southern.v3:Greece
3.4 Caucasian:Gagauz

Xavier727
06-22-2024, 01:25 PM
If you want to get really kinky with your source put in the modern scaled the modern scaled averages and the ancient scaled averages all at the same time and then run your single function calculator for your coordinates at 2x. This is what I get when I do that:

Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.6824% / 0.01682368 | ADC: 2x RC
45.4 Orcadian
33.0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG
21.6 Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.8826% / 0.01882628 | ADC: 2x RC
41.0 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG
35.2 Orcadian
23.8 Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval

Target: Brad_23andMe_scaled
Distance: 1.4647% / 0.01464658 | ADC: 2x RC
50.4 Scotland_EIA
43.4 Czech_IA
6.2 Orcadian

I haven't removed or Orcadian or Afrikaner. You can also run your 22 chromosomes with this triple source and I think it would show more accurately what you have than just using one set of data sampling.


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0145% / 0.01445698 | ADC: 2x RC
46.9 Danish
30.1 Welsh
23.0 Germany_LBA_Halberstadt

Why does it have to be at 2x RC, is that the most accurate

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 02:01 PM
I think we can conclude that most of us from the northwest are basically Anglo-Saxons, but I guess the fun of it is in figuring out the specific percentages and locations of what we like to call Scandinavian and Northwest European Insular type. The admixture of all these insular people's is more or less quite similar with some maybe minor variations like one group of Scotland could have twice as much Norwegian as South Western England or something like that but really overall the percentages are minor as far as I've seen and the overall admixtures are quite similar for background people groups so we're all very much related to the same people groups if we're from northwestern Europe it's just a matter of when and the proportions.


Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0145% / 0.01445698 | ADC: 2x RC
46.9 Danish
30.1 Welsh
23.0 Germany_LBA_Halberstadt

Why does it have to be at 2x RC, is that the most accurate

@Xavier727

Well apparently it brings you closer to yourself I guess in the most refined sense of your overall similarities most recently but perhaps it's just averaging them as you go back distances. It would be nice if they offered 3x, 4x, etc

vader
06-22-2024, 02:02 PM
Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 2.7561% / 0.02756137
89.0 Southern.v3:Portugal
3.2 Southern.v3:Sardinian
3.0 Eastern.v3:Mari
2.8 Southern.v3:Maltese
2.0 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.8301% / 0.02830114
36.2 Amerindian:Chile_LosRieles_12000BP:I11974
31.2 Southern.v3:Portugal
10.8 Southern.v3:Sardinian
6.4 Amerindian:Peru_Chincha_LH.SG
4.4 WestAsian:IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
3.8 Amerindian:Bahamas_EleutheraIsl_Ceramic
2.6 Amerindian:Bahamas_SouthAndros_Ceramic
2.6 SouthEastAsian:LAO_Hoabinhian
2.0 Southern.v3:Maltese

gixajo
06-22-2024, 02:14 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.6630% / 0.01663029
71.4 Southern.v3
25.0 Northern.v3
3.4 Western.v3
0.2 SouthEastAsiann

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.6952% / 0.01695233 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.4 Southern.v3
11.6 Western.v3
--------------------------------------------------------------
Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.9523% / 0.01952345
85.6 Southern.v3
11.0 Northern.v3
2.8 Western.v3
0.6 SouthEastAsiann

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.9957% / 0.01995701 | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.6 Southern.v3
24.4 Western.v3

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 02:20 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0145% / 0.01445698 | ADC: 2x RC
46.9 Danish
30.1 Welsh
23.0 Germany_LBA_Halberstadt

Why does it have to be at 2x RC, is that the most accurate

I get these at 1x and 2x if I remove Orcadian & Afrikaner using Mod Scaled, Mod Pop Ave Scaled, and Ancient Pop Ave Scaled:

Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 0.8206% / 0.00820617 | ADC: 1x RC
35.4 Swedish
35.2 Norwegian
22.0 Scottish
3.8 German_Hamburg
3.6 DEU_MA_Baiuvaric

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.1427% / 0.01142669 | ADC: 1x RC
53.8 Swedish
22.2 Scottish
16.8 Danish
7.2 England_EastYorkshire_MIA

Target: Brad_23andMe_scaled
Distance: 0.8388% / 0.00838790 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Norwegian
--------------------------------------------------------
Target: Brad_G25_Scaled_Average
Distance: 1.5373% / 0.01537279 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Norwegian

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.4958% / 0.01495757 | ADC: 2x RC
43.6 Swedish
33.6 England_EastYorkshire_MIA
22.8 DEU_MA_Baiuvaric

Target: Brad_23andMe_scaled
Distance: 0.8388% / 0.00838790 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Norwegian

With my scaled average at 1x to 2x it's odd it goes from those 5 pieces to simply Norwegian at 2x, right? I'm guessing it is simply reflecting the majority of what I have DNA-wise would be considered Norwegian.

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 02:24 PM
Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 2.7561% / 0.02756137
89.0 Southern.v3:Portugal
3.2 Southern.v3:Sardinian
3.0 Eastern.v3:Mari
2.8 Southern.v3:Maltese
2.0 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.8301% / 0.02830114
36.2 Amerindian:Chile_LosRieles_12000BP:I11974
31.2 Southern.v3:Portugal
10.8 Southern.v3:Sardinian
6.4 Amerindian:Peru_Chincha_LH.SG
4.4 WestAsian:IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
3.8 Amerindian:Bahamas_EleutheraIsl_Ceramic
2.6 Amerindian:Bahamas_SouthAndros_Ceramic
2.6 SouthEastAsian:LAO_Hoabinhian
2.0 Southern.v3:Maltese

Bizarre you get that 3% Mari. I wonder how?

noricum
06-22-2024, 02:35 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.7964% / 0.01796441
51.2 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
12.6 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
12.6 Southern.v3:Sardinian
10.6 Southern_Slavic:Macedonian
6.6 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
3.8 Eastern_Slavic:Belarusian
1.8 WestAsian:IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN
0.8 Northern.v3:England


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.8850% / 0.01885001 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.8 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
35.0 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
15.8 Western.v3:Belgium
5.4 Southern.v3:Sardinian

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0114% / 0.02011416 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.8 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
28.4 Western.v3:Germany
12.8 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.02314053 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.02486153 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.02705792 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.02731231 Western.v3:Germany
0.03026772 Western.v3:Austria
0.03212475 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03398195 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03837717 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.04003646 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.04031535 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.04144125 Eastern.v3:Moldovan
0.04202589 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.04276533 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
0.04442437 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.04445007 Western.v3:Belgium
0.04497671 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.04536497 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Sumy
0.04576364 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
0.04629705 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
0.04679669 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.04684412 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.04736707 Northern.v3:Wales
0.04770736 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Rivne
0.04822650 Northern.v3:England
0.04829108 Northern.v3:Sweden

mariusz99
06-22-2024, 02:36 PM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.4298% / 0.01429815 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.0 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
15.0 Northern.v3:Estonia
12.0 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Pskov
6.4 Northern.v3:Sweden
4.2 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Tver
1.8 Eastern:RUS_Samara_HG
0.6 SouthEastAsiann:Indonesia_Sulawesi_HG:GUP001

ScandinavianCelt
06-22-2024, 02:51 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 0.0145% / 0.01445698 | ADC: 2x RC
46.9 Danish
30.1 Welsh
23.0 Germany_LBA_Halberstadt

Why does it have to be at 2x RC, is that the most accurate

Copy (CTRL+A) your Gedmatch results from K13 calc when you run it "by chromosomes" and paste whole page in here and you will have raw horizontal format to convert your chromosome plots for the Allelocator tool to make you 22-chromosome simulated, and then you can plot+label them on the Vahaduo PCA map tool to see where you land.

data:text/html;base64,PHRleHRhcmVhPjwvdGV4dGFyZWE+CjxzY3JpcH Q+ZG9jdW1lbnQucXVlcnlTZWxlY3RvcigidGV4dGFyZWEiKS5v bmlucHV0PWZ1bmN0aW9uKCl7Y29uc3QgdD1bLi4udGhpcy52YW x1ZS5tYXRjaCgvKD88PVxzKVwtfFtcZFwuXSsoPz0lXHMpL2dt KV0ubWFwKE51bWJlcikubWFwKCh0PT5pc05hTih0KT8wOnQpKS 5yZWR1Y2UoKCh0LGEsZSk9Pntjb25zdCBuPU1hdGguZmxvb3Io ZS8yMik7cmV0dXJuIHRbbl18fD1bXSx0W25dLnB1c2goYSksdH 0pLFtdKTt0aGlzLnZhbHVlPXRbMF0ubWFwKCgoYSxlKT0+dC5t YXAoKHQ9PnRbZV0pKSkpLm1hcCgoKHQsYSk9PmBjaHIke2ErMX 0sJHt0LmpvaW4oIiwiKX1gKSkuam9pbigiXG4iKX08L3Njcmlw dD4=

https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html

This is what my K13 looks like using my merged raw data file:

https://i.postimg.cc/zfbRnpBy/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-06-22-T104912-149.png (https://postimages.org/)



And this is prob best labeling I can do using above mentioned Modx2+Ancient Source, for top 2 distances of each chromosome (1-22):

1. Scottish-Scottish
2. DEU_Mittelelbe-Saale-DEU_Lech
3. DNK_Jutland-ISL_Hofstadir
4. Danish-German
5. Swedish-Swedish
6. Swedish-Danish
7. Norwegian-Norwegian
8. Swedish-Scottish
9. HUN_Sarmatian-DEU_Ostrogothic
10. Swedish-Swedish
11. POL-BelgianA
12. DEU_Baiuvaric-German
13. German-French_Alsace
14. Romanian-German
15. Scottish-Norwegian
16. SVK_Bytca_Hrabove-DEU_Tollense
17. Dutch-Scottish
18. Dutch-Dutch
19. Irish-Irish
20. ENG_Dorset-ISL_Hofstadir
21. Scythian_UKR-Swedish
22. Gnezdovo-Dnipro

vader
06-22-2024, 03:10 PM
Bizarre you get that 3% Mari. I wonder how?

I always get some sort of north east European on calculators. It’s from my mother side. Seems my north euro connections is more north east like

Far_away
06-22-2024, 05:11 PM
0.02401419 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
0.02440701 Southern_Slavic:Macedonian
0.02662964 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
0.02730063 Eastern.v3:Romania
0.03069282 Southern_Slavic:Bulgarian
0.03362252 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.03583952 Eastern.v3:Moldovan
0.03864989 Caucasian:Gagauz
0.04517228 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.04534529 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.04544651 Western.v3:Austria
0.04689505 Southern.v3:Albanian
0.04710106 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.05444058 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05706812 Western.v3:Belgium
0.05852417 Western.v3:France
0.05882645 Western.v3:Germany
0.05890642 Southern.v3:Spanish_Baleares
0.06041422 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.06103214 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.06206015 Southern.v3:Italy
0.06455163 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.06539611 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06619361 Western.v3:French_Corsica
0.06685907 Southern.v3:Spain


Distance: 2.0688% / 0.02068800 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.6 Southern_Slavic:Macedonian
30.8 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
29.6 Southern.v3:Albanian
2.0 Southern.v3:Sardinian

MandM
06-22-2024, 06:59 PM
Distance to: MandM
0.01187074 Eastern.v3:Romania
0.01362334 Southern_Slavic:Macedonian
0.01564702 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
0.01591325 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
0.01616600 Southern_Slavic:Bulgarian
0.02258748 Eastern.v3:Moldovan
0.02497615 Caucasian:Gagauz
0.02735986 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.03979913 Southern.v3:Albanian
0.04088376 Western.v3:Switzerland
0.04139484 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.04152916 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.04317128 Western.v3:Austria
0.05109578 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05371883 Western.v3:Belgium
0.05534657 Southern.v3:Italy
0.05560449 Southern.v3:Spanish_Baleares
0.05582555 Western.v3:France
0.05618582 Western.v3:Germany
0.05854035 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.06131112 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.06189064 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06286004 Western.v3:French_Corsica
0.06394257 Southern.v3:Spain
0.06476583 Eastern.v3:Slovakia

Target: MandM
Distance: 1.0061% / 0.01006114 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.6 Eastern.v3:Romania
30.2 Southern_Slavic:Macedonian
21.2 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
6.0 Southern_Slavic:Serbian

Target: MandM
Distance: 0.7972% / 0.00797217 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.6 Southern_Slavic:Macedonian
27.0 Southern_Slavic:Serbian
14.2 Southern.v3:Albanian
13.6 Southern.v3:Montenegrin
4.2 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
2.0 Eastern.v3:Chechen
1.4 Eastern.v3:Siberia

Vessna
06-22-2024, 10:48 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.4745% / 0.01474547
65.2 Northern.v3
11.8 Eastern.v3
11.2 Southern.v3
11.0 Eastern_Slavic
0.8 NorthEastAsian

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.4717% / 0.01471699
66.0 Northern.v3:Lithuania
12.0 Eastern.v3:Russian_Tver
10.0 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Kaluga
9.8 Southern.v3:Albanian
1.2 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.8 SouthEastAsian:KOR_Yokchido
0.2 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Tver

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.5428% / 0.01542797 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 Eastern_Slavic
30.2 Northern.v3
10.0 Western_Slavic

rothaer
06-22-2024, 11:12 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.1044% / 0.01104401
51.8 Northern.v3
21.6 Western_Slavic
19.4 Eastern_Slavic
5.8 Southern.v3
1.4 MiddleEastern

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.1044% / 0.01104401
27.4 Northern.v3:Iceland
24.4 Northern.v3:Sweden
21.6 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
16.4 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Pskov
5.8 Southern.v3:Sardinian
3.0 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Pinezhsky
1.4 MiddleEastern:Levant_SYR_Tell_Masaikh

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.6560% / 0.01656003
98.6 Northern.v3
1.4 Eastern.v3

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.6560% / 0.01656003
52.2 Northern.v3:Sweden
32.6 Northern.v3:Denmark
13.8 Northern.v3:Lithuania
1.4 Eastern.v3:Adygei

After I assess myself having abt. 40% proto Slavic the result makes sense.

But my wife with abt. 29% proto Slavic obviously becomes completely de-Slavicised in favor of a smaller proportion of Baltic (Lithuanian).

ScandinavianCelt
06-23-2024, 01:56 AM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.1044% / 0.01104401
51.8 Northern.v3
21.6 Western_Slavic
19.4 Eastern_Slavic
5.8 Southern.v3
1.4 MiddleEastern

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.1044% / 0.01104401
27.4 Northern.v3:Iceland
24.4 Northern.v3:Sweden
21.6 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
16.4 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Pskov
5.8 Southern.v3:Sardinian
3.0 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Pinezhsky
1.4 MiddleEastern:Levant_SYR_Tell_Masaikh

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.6560% / 0.01656003
98.6 Northern.v3
1.4 Eastern.v3

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.6560% / 0.01656003
52.2 Northern.v3:Sweden
32.6 Northern.v3:Denmark
13.8 Northern.v3:Lithuania
1.4 Eastern.v3:Adygei

After I assess myself having abt. 40% proto Slavic the result makes sense.

But my wife with abt. 29% proto Slavic obviously becomes completely de-Slavicised in favor of a smaller proportion of Baltic (Lithuanian).

Interesting. Good admixtures.

I met a few French girls at a party a few weeks ago and asked them if they thought I looked French. They all said I looked more German.

Upsilander
08-16-2024, 11:07 AM
Target: Upsilander23andme
Distance: 1.8291% / 0.01829102
29.8 Northern.v3:Iceland
27.6 Western.v3:Austria
15.4 Northern.v3:Wales
13.4 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
9.4 Southern.v3:Sardinian
4.4 Northern.v3:Lithuania


Distance to: Upsilander23andme
0.02464824 Western.v3:Germany
0.02599033 Western.v3:Austria
0.02825984 Northern.v3:Wales
0.03052841 Northern.v3:England
0.03065273 Northern.v3:Denmark
0.03074850 Western.v3:Netherlands
0.03142510 Western.v3:Belgium
0.03227628 Northern.v3:Scotland
0.03370147 Northern.v3:Norway
0.03480421 Northern.v3:Shetlandic
0.03559594 Northern.v3:Ireland
0.03575357 Northern.v3:Iceland
0.03673480 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.03762656 Northern.v3:Sweden
0.03829874 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.04020545 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.04761694 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.04789364 Western.v3:France
0.04808910 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.04949593 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05187505 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.05213569 Southern.v3:Bosnia
0.05245820 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.05431249 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.05554300 Southern.v3:Montenegrin

oszkar07
08-16-2024, 11:17 AM
Target: Oszk
Distance: 1.8705% / 0.01870460
47.2 Western_Slavic
33.6 Northern.v3
11.2 Southern.v3
7.2 Eastern.v3
0.6 Caucasian
0.2 Eastern_Slavic

Target: Oszk
Distance: 1.8705% / 0.01870460
47.2 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
33.6 Northern.v3:England
10.6 Southern.v3:Sardinian
5.4 Eastern.v3:Adygei
1.8 Eastern.v3:Mari
0.6 Caucasian:Gagauz
0.6 Southern.v3:Italy
0.2 Eastern_Slavic:Cossack_Ukrainian

Wend-Kruzek
08-16-2024, 02:19 PM
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.02133493 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
0.02289618 Western_Slavic:Czech
0.02664363 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
0.02673001 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.02729666 Western_Slavic:Polish
0.02782158 Eastern.v3:Hungary
0.03018573 Eastern.v3:Slovakia
0.03020507 Western.v3:Germany
0.03178743 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03242599 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
0.03413616 Western.v3:Austria
0.03418597 Western_Slavic:Slovakian
0.03454540 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03470838 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03569007 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Belgorod
0.03595606 Eastern_Slavic:Cossack_Ukrainian
0.03596720 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Orel
0.03618794 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Voronez
0.03618794 Eastern.v3:Russian_Voronez
0.03633029 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03653827 Western_Slavic:Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.03691414 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03778613 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Smolensk
0.03778613 Eastern.v3:Russian_Smolensk
0.03967037 Eastern_Slavic:Russian_Kursk



Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.1726% / 0.01172564 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.6 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
26.4 Western.v3:Austria
19.8 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
3.0 Eastern.v3:Cherkes
1.2 Amerindian:Bahamas_AbacoIsl_Ceramic

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.2253% / 0.01225329 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.8 Western_Slavic:Polish_Kashubian
27.4 Western.v3:Austria
23.0 Southern_Slavic:Slovenian
5.4 Eastern_Slavic:Ukrainian_Lviv
1.4 Amerindian:Brazil_LapaDoSanto_9500BP:CP18


:wink