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black hole
06-23-2024, 06:26 PM
You can share your results from illustrativedna.com (Genetic Distances > Modern)




Then fill this map

https://i.postimg.cc/rMmYqjtX/Location-European-nation-states-svg-png.png

gixajo
06-23-2024, 06:34 PM
IllustrativeDna Modern Genetic Distances.

50 POPS

https://i.imgur.com/t5olSgk.png

30&10 POPS maps;

30 POPS

https://i.imgur.com/CPsnyZa.png

10 POPS

https://i.imgur.com/sv3xZfN.png


List of distances:

#
POPULATION
DISTANCE
1 Spanish (Aragon) 2.060
2 Spanish (Cantabria) 2.150
3 Spanish (Valencia) 2.251
4 Catalan (Catalonia) 2.292
5 Spanish (La Rioja) 2.323
6 Spanish (Castilla-La Mancha) 2.432
7 Spanish (Andalusia) 2.503
8 Spanish (Navarre) 2.525
9 Spanish (Galicia) 2.549
10 Catalan (Baleares) 2.572
11 Spanish (Castile and Leon) 2.611
12 Portuguese 2.750
13 French Occitan (Nouvelle-Aquitaine) 2.768
14 French Occitan (Occitanie) 2.821
15 French Occitan (Auvergne) 2.837
16 Spanish (Extremadura) 2.871
17 Spanish (Murcia) 3.030
18 French Occitan (Provence) 3.302
19 Basque (France) 3.392
20 Italian (Aosta Valley) 3.425
21 Swiss (French) 3.446
22 Spanish (Asturias) 3.519
23 Italian (Trentino-Alto Adige) 3.650
24 Basque (Spain) 3.727
25 French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte) 3.738
26 French Oïl (Ile-de-France) 3.921
27 Italian (Veneto) 4.088
28 Swiss (German) 4.158
29 French Oïl (Hauts-de-France) 4.266
30 French Oïl (Grand Est) 4.377

Petalpusher
06-23-2024, 06:47 PM
Genetic heatmaps duh, feelings might be different. I feel Albanian every other week.

https://i.postimg.cc/nVCY0jMj/heatmap.png

Scandal
06-23-2024, 07:17 PM
k13 European countries only calculator(https://universe-apricity.github.io/Calculators/k13-euro-countries-only.html)

Distance to: univ
6.73538418 Czech
6.97090382 Slovak
8.39338430 Slovene
8.71251973 Croat
9.02685438 Hungarian
9.83136817 Ukrainian
11.48936465 Polish
13.67288192 Belarusian
13.85171830 Serb
14.40038888 Russian
16.36288789 Austrian
17.26718564 Romanian
18.32727203 Estonian
18.51441600 Finnish
19.06213787 Lithuanian
19.28505898 German
21.20052358 Bulgarian
23.69669597 Latvian
24.07346257 North_Macedonian
24.14022784 Swedish
25.12838833 Belgian
26.92092123 Danish
26.99119671 Dutch
27.60258321 Norwegian
28.07146238 English

Wend-Kruzek
06-23-2024, 07:24 PM
down:wave:

gixajo
06-23-2024, 08:07 PM
k13 European countries only calculator(https://universe-apricity.github.io/Calculators/k13-euro-countries-only.html)


Distance to: gixajo
7.10071123 Spanish
8.92045402 Portuguese
19.21303204 Belgian
22.57595181 Austrian
22.92880939 English
23.41455744 Welsh
23.78308643 German
24.38533986 Dutch
24.65551460 Scottish
25.25969913 Irish
27.83314750 North_Macedonian
28.09182977 Icelandic
28.84768102 Danish
29.00294123 Italian
29.17109528 Albanian
29.27978825 Hungarian
29.33944614 Norwegian
29.41902446 Romanian
29.60446926 Slovene
29.61614762 Serb
29.70090739 Swedish
30.32141652 Croat
30.87144473 Bulgarian
32.91345621 Slovak
33.39615397 Czech

Target: gixajo
Distance: 6.8519% / 6.85185537
92.9 Spanish
7.1 Irish

Minterms
06-23-2024, 08:11 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/dfe37542d809a4b54dc380abca9ba9af.png
1 Spanish (Murcia) 2.589
2 Spanish (Galicia) 2.632
3 Portuguese 2.738
4 Catalan (Baleares) 2.896
5 Spanish (Cantabria) 2.903
6 Spanish (Valencia) 2.903
7 Swiss (French) 2.924
8 Spanish (Extremadura)2.965
9 Italian (Aosta Valley) 3.001
10 French Occitan (Provence)3.009
11 Spanish (Andalusia) 3.039
12 Spanish (Castile and Leon) 3.043
13 Catalan (Catalonia) 3.057

Gallop
06-23-2024, 08:52 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/43wBjk9x/illustrative-Mapa-Poblaciones-Cercanas.png

Nurzat
06-23-2024, 09:06 PM
first image is top 10, second image is top 20:

https://i.imgur.com/FCy2BIy.png

https://i.imgur.com/LzzBZpa.png

(dad's results - I only uploaded his kit to illustrative dna)

Vitez
06-23-2024, 09:31 PM
Using Universe Calc.

Distance to: Vitez
2.49943994 Croat
3.46581881 Hungarian
6.00067496 Slovene
6.75402843 Serb
7.74925158 Slovak
9.14110497 Czech
9.80085200 Romanian
10.52239992 Austrian
14.20496392 Bulgarian
15.67452711 Ukrainian
15.86306717 German
16.58825488 North_Macedonian
16.81048780 Polish
19.56154902 Russian
20.34056292 Belarusian

Damião de Góis
06-23-2024, 09:48 PM
I don't have illustrativeDNA and since G25 has too many spanish samples, then here are my closest populations according to EUTest, to get a wider view:



# Population (source) Distance
1 PT 3.65
2 ES 4.86
3 North_Italian 7.47
4 FR 8.06
5 Tuscan 12.62
6 AT 15.63
7 Cornish 16.71
8 West_&_Central_German 17.07
9 NL 17.43
10 RO 17.57
11 Serbian 17.67
12 English 17.99
13 HU 18.8
14 French_Basque 18.94
15 Orcadian 19.53
16 IE 19.58
17 Scottish 20.62
18 DK 21.05
19 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 22.62
20 NO 22.89

Beowulf
06-23-2024, 09:53 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/wjR878x3/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-23-235241.png (https://postimages.org/)

Coastal Elite
06-23-2024, 11:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/swYhW92.jpeg

# POPULATION DISTANCE
1 Swiss (German) 2.268
2 Alsatian (Alsace) 2.290
3 French Oïl (Hauts-de-France) 2.484
4 Belgian 2.531
5 French Oïl (Normandy) 2.541
6 French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte) 2.639
7 French Oïl (Grand Est) 2.730
8 Austrian 2.853
9 French Oïl (Ile-de-France) 2.897
10 German (Bavaria) 2.927

Grace O'Malley
06-24-2024, 02:15 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/xdRFggsQ/Illus-DNAClosesst-Map.png

Grace O'Malley
06-24-2024, 04:57 AM
That is the first thing I thought, when I saw the OP, after thinking why should I trust illustrativedna over raw G25 whose results are slightly different.


https://i.postimg.cc/TPfRF28w/w3c.jpg

If you use the same test you will get the same G25 from Illustrative dna. For my G25 results from Davidski I used 23&Me raw data and for My Illustrative dna I used My Heritage. They results are fairly similar especially accounting for different dna tests used.

G25 from David.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6862% / 0.01686181
45.8 Icelandic
43.6 Irish
6.0 Danish
1.8 Norwegian
1.4 Andian_B
1.4 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest

From Illustrativedna


Target: Grace-scaled
Distance: 1.6871% / 0.01687061
52.0 Irish
43.0 Icelandic
2.0 Lithuanian_PZ
1.8 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
1.2 Andian_B

Vessna
06-24-2024, 05:34 AM
https://i.imgur.com/lzbsCuD.png

Far_away
06-24-2024, 09:06 AM
https://i.ibb.co/nmtMtmv/a.png

Far_away
06-24-2024, 09:17 AM
top 50
https://i.ibb.co/wrMspgp/aa.png

Kostek
06-24-2024, 02:33 PM
1 Russian (Smolensk) 2.320
2 Belarusian 2.468
3 Ukrainian (Donetsk) 2.602
4 Polish 2.604
5 Ukrainian (Zhytomyr) 2.615
6 Ukrainian (Sumy) 2.617
7 Ukrainian (Chernihiv) 2.762
8 Ukrainian (Rivne) 2.901
9 Russian (Oryol) 2.926
10 Russian (Voronez) 2.934
11 Ukrainian (Dnipro) 3.017
12 Ukrainian (Lviv) 3.142

nittionia
06-24-2024, 02:41 PM
Only my dad has Illustrative DNA:

https://i.imgur.com/mdnj46F.png

His K13 vahaduo results:

https://i.imgur.com/xQg65q6.png

His k13 gedmatch results:

https://i.imgur.com/9ysXCaL.png

rothaer
06-24-2024, 02:51 PM
Only my dad has Illustrative DNA:

https://i.imgur.com/mdnj46F.png

It's worrysome that this new worlder has a lower distance than me.

https://i.imgur.com/P8pxYiM.jpeg

Petalpusher
06-24-2024, 03:08 PM
It's worrysome that this new worlder has a lower distance than me.

Nittonia keeps doing that. Both closer to Germans and Gauls than actual ones. Id summon a council asap to figure out what this little magic frog is on about.

Xavier727
06-24-2024, 03:18 PM
131084

Dušan
06-24-2024, 03:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Z3Z1uQY.png

https://i.imgur.com/L2MoGPm.png

ScandinavianCelt
06-24-2024, 08:04 PM
131084

Modern top 50 with Ancestry-only data:

https://i.postimg.cc/vm2rDR2Z/IMG-20240624-WA0008.jpg (https://postimages.org/)bbcode image (https://postimages.org/)

Compare to Top 5 GD for each data set that I have and the scaled average of both data sets using modern scaled official G25 individuals:

https://i.postimg.cc/MHDvLVQr/Screenshot-20240624-161209-2.png (https://postimg.cc/JHsrDyKb)

tk'es
07-01-2024, 08:22 PM
among europeans, only greeks and italians


https://i.ibb.co/RQG9rjy/Blank-Map-of-Europe-w-boundaries-svg.png

Ritz06
07-02-2024, 07:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kKI3cu9.png

noricum
07-03-2024, 02:53 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VL91tMjj/distl.png (https://postimages.org/)

vader
07-03-2024, 03:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/g6iSpNr.png

Jingle Bell
07-03-2024, 03:54 PM
My Caucasoid side isolated:


Distance to: JingleBell_EuroSide
0.02999681 Spain:Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.03002625 Spain:Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.03048156 Portugal:Portuguese
0.03136785 Spain:Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.03182621 Spain:Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.03262141 Spain:Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.03285282 Spain:Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.03398580 Spain:Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.03443243 Spain:Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.03581451 Spain:Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.03586247 Spain:Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.03600456 Spain:Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.03717037 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan )
0.03735611 Spain:Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.03747355 Portugal:Portuguese_Azores
0.03878894 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.03892976 Spain:Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.03911368 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.03944876 North_&_Central_Italy:Italian_Carloforte_(Ligurian)
0.03979100 Spain:Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.04041383 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.04058939 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.04076146 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.04091028 Spain:Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.04131494 Spain:Spanish_La_Rioja_(Riojan)

Damião de Góis
07-10-2024, 09:31 PM
I did this in the end. Top 30:

https://i.imgur.com/wpPUp0I.png

celticdragongod
07-12-2024, 11:10 PM
k13 European countries only calculator(https://universe-apricity.github.io/Calculators/k13-euro-countries-only.html)

Distance to: univ
6.73538418 Czech
6.97090382 Slovak
8.39338430 Slovene
8.71251973 Croat
9.02685438 Hungarian
9.83136817 Ukrainian
11.48936465 Polish
13.67288192 Belarusian
13.85171830 Serb
14.40038888 Russian
16.36288789 Austrian
17.26718564 Romanian
18.32727203 Estonian
18.51441600 Finnish
19.06213787 Lithuanian
19.28505898 German
21.20052358 Bulgarian
23.69669597 Latvian
24.07346257 North_Macedonian
24.14022784 Swedish
25.12838833 Belgian
26.92092123 Danish
26.99119671 Dutch
27.60258321 Norwegian
28.07146238 English

Distance to: CDG
1.92647346 Dutch
2.85324377 English
2.93586444 Scottish
3.16815404 Welsh
3.24530430 Icelandic
4.18041864 Irish
4.21359704 Danish
4.47904008 Norwegian
6.78703175 Swedish
8.01976932 Belgian
9.10460872 German
15.11110519 Austrian
21.17588015 Slovene
22.04982540 Czech
22.33437037 Hungarian
22.99296197 Slovak
25.13234569 Croat
25.40812468 Portuguese
26.02788120 Spanish
28.08485179 Polish
29.05848413 Serb
29.31733276 Finnish
30.60547827 Romanian
31.09395761 Ukrainian
31.28376096 Estonian

Target: CDG
Distance: 0.9123% / 0.91229517
60.5 Scottish
30.2 Danish
3.7 Welsh
3.1 Albanian
2.5 Finnish

Distance to: CDG
1.15411773 37.60% Norwegian + 62.40% English
1.15793718 7.40% Belarusian + 92.60% Scottish
1.19020197 8.40% Finnish + 91.60% Scottish
1.19446088 8.00% Estonian + 92.00% Scottish
1.22620948 7.40% Russian + 92.60% Scottish
1.22779256 93.00% Scottish + 7.00% Lithuanian
1.22945233 39.00% Danish + 61.00% English
1.24066967 6.00% Latvian + 94.00% Scottish
1.24205028 92.20% Scottish + 7.80% Ukrainian
1.26389270 46.20% Icelandic + 53.80% English
1.27660023 8.60% Polish + 91.40% Scottish
1.32577145 72.80% Icelandic + 27.20% Belgian
1.35841967 30.00% Swedish + 70.00% Welsh
1.37036879 10.60% Czech + 89.40% Scottish
1.37216036 68.60% Dutch + 31.40% Icelandic
1.42621393 41.60% Danish + 58.40% Welsh
1.46421944 72.20% Scottish + 27.80% Swedish
1.47684393 90.00% Icelandic + 10.00% Spanish
1.48528899 8.80% Finnish + 91.20% Welsh
1.48832994 90.00% Scottish + 10.00% Slovak
1.49863359 77.80% Dutch + 22.20% Norwegian
1.53570595 89.80% Icelandic + 10.20% Portuguese
1.57922387 22.00% Danish + 78.00% Dutch
1.59947211 8.00% Estonian + 92.00% Welsh
1.61030036 15.00% Czech + 85.00% Irish

Slavic Italian
07-14-2024, 01:37 PM
I'll play halfway. Do you people think your results are accurate? I've learned lots the past three years. My ancestors were Napoleonic officers. One a general. One would become a general and was personal bodyguard of Napoleon. Napoleon: "My Eagle eyes" This looks French-Germanic results.

1 French Oïl (Normandy) 3.870
2 German (Bavaria) 3.871
3 Austrian 3.927
4 Alsatian (Alsace) 3.972
5 Croat 4.006
6 Slovene 4.045
7 Hungarian 4.075
8 French Oïl (Grand Est) 4.085
9 Bosniak 4.136
10 German 4.173
11 French Oïl (Hauts-de-France) 4.201
12 Serb 4.229
13 Moldovan 4.247
14 Swiss (German) 4.275
15 German (Saxony) 4.371
16 Montenegrin 4.375
17 Czech 4.400
18 Romanian 4.464
19 Belgian 4.473
20 French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte) 4.621
21 French Oïl (Pays de la Loire) 4.691
22 Bosniak (Croatia) 4.802
23 German (Hamburg) 4.889
24 French Occitan (Auvergne) 4.986
25 French Oïl (Ile-de-France) 5.031
26 Italian (Friuli Venezia Giulia) 5.072
27 French Occitan (Occitanie) 5.100
28 Bulgarian 5.114
29 Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) 5.128
30 Breton 5.195
31 Dutch 5.230
32 French Occitan (Provence) 5.257
33 Swiss (French) 5.269
34 Welsh 5.304
35 Cornish 5.370
36 North Macedonian 5.448
37 English 5.504
38 Gagauz 5.528
39 Italian (Aosta Valley) 5.529
40 Italian (Trentino-Alto Adige) 5.587131470

RyoHazuki
07-14-2024, 05:27 PM
131471


POPULATION
DISTANCE
1 Cornish 2.777
2 English 2.870
3 Welsh 3.027
4 Scottish 3.028
5 Dutch 3.104
6 Orcadian 3.121
7 Breton 3.197
8 Irish 3.284
9 French Oïl (Pays de la Loire) 3.387
10 Shetlander 3.501
11 Danish 3.511
12 Norwegian 3.535
13 German 3.598
14 Belgian 3.618
15 Icelander 3.625
16 German (Hamburg) 3.696
17 French Oïl (Hauts-de-France) 3.741
18 German (Bavaria) 3.767
19 Alsatian (Alsace) 3.978
20 Swiss (German) 4.107
21 French Oïl (Normandy) 4.112
22 Norwegian (Bergen) 4.117
23 French Oïl (Ile-de-France) 4.230
24 German (Saxony) 4.366
25 French Oïl (Grand Est) 4.392
26 Swedish 4.473
27 French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte) 4.516
28 Austrian 4.636
29 French Occitan (Occitanie) 4.997
30 Czech 5.102
31 French Occitan (Auvergne) 5.273
32 Hungarian 5.475
33 Slovene 5.645
34 Croat 5.815
35 Swiss (French) 5.884
36 French Occitan (Provence) 6.194
37 Italian (Aosta Valley) 6.261
38 Polish (Wielkopolska) 6.507
39 Moldovan 6.600
40 Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) 6.631
41 Catalan (Catalonia) 6.811
42 French Occitan (Nouvelle-Aquitaine) 6.817
43 Ukrainian (Lviv) 6.839
44 Bosniak 6.872
45 Slovak 6.885
46 Spanish (Asturias) 6.927
47 Basque (France) 6.964
48 Italian (Friuli Venezia Giulia) 6.976
49 Spanish (Castile and Leon) 6.988
50 Montenegrin 7.001

Eurafricanid
07-14-2024, 07:22 PM
Euro-Side results:


https://i.imgur.com/uqug6tT.png



<tbody>
#
POPULATION
DISTANCE


1
Catalan (Baleares)
2.008


2
Spanish (Castilla-La Mancha)
2.166


3
Spanish (Valencia)
2.402


4
Spanish (Andalusia)
2.432


5
Italian (Trentino-Alto Adige)
2.531


6
Catalan (Catalonia)
2.532


7
Italian (Veneto)
2.548


8
Spanish (Extremadura)
2.679


9
Spanish (Cantabria)
2.706


10
Spanish (Murcia)
2.724


11
French Occitan (Provence)
2.764


12
Spanish (Galicia)
2.782


13
Portuguese
2.821


14
Spanish (Aragon)
2.856


15
Italian (Lombardy)
2.862


16
Spanish (La Rioja)
2.936


17
Spanish (Navarre)
2.999


18
Italian (Piedmont)
3.000


19
Corsican
3.058


20
Spanish (Castile and Leon)
3.110


21
Italian (Aosta Valley)
3.129


22
Italian (Liguria)
3.340


23
Swiss (Italian)
3.421


24
Italian (Friuli Venezia Giulia)
3.423


25
Swiss (French)
3.435


26
French Occitan (Auvergne)
3.534


27
Italian (Tuscany)
3.604


28
French Occitan (Occitanie)
3.852


29
French Occitan (Nouvelle-Aquitaine)
3.947


30
French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte)
4.170

</tbody>





Full Results with only European Populations (It was easier than I though, I didn't even have to remove almost any West and Central African populations):


https://i.imgur.com/WQRI6nm.png



<tbody>
#
POPULATION
DISTANCE


1
Maltese
33.833


2
Dodecanese Turk
34.346


3
Cypriot Turk
34.421


4
Balkan Turk (East Macedonia and Thrace)
34.489


5
Sicilian (West)
34.664


6
Portuguese
34.714


7
Sicilian (East)
34.749


8
Spanish (Extremadura)
34.777


9
Balkan Turk (Kırcaali)
34.900


10
Balkan Turk (Deliorman)
34.957


11
Spanish (Castile and Leon)
35.049


12
Italian (Calabria)
35.079


13
Spanish (Galicia)
35.101


14
Spanish (Murcia)
35.120


15
Balkan Turk (Central Macedonia)
35.134


16
Spanish (Andalusia)
35.161


17
Mandaean (Iraq)
35.316


18
Cretan Turk
35.396


19
Italian (Campania)
35.441


20
Italian (Basilicata)
35.478


21
Spanish (Asturias)
35.486


22
Italian (Liguria)
35.519


23
Cretan Greek
35.544


24
Balkan Turk (Thessaly)
35.548


25
Spanish (Castilla-La Mancha)
35.644


26
Italian (Molise)
35.673


27
Cypriot Greek
35.673


28
Italian (Apulia)
35.675


29
Italian (Abruzzo)
35.682


30
Dodecanese Greek
35.708

</tbody>

Upsilander
08-16-2024, 09:51 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/fzCzHw7F/Capture-Heatmapupsi.png

Ran this 5min ago, i'm not looking elsewhere


Distance to: Upsilander23andme
0.02335521 CeltoGermanic:German
0.02942258 CeltoGermanic:French_Brittany
0.03320878 CeltoGermanic:Dutch
0.03368142 CeltoGermanic:Swedish
0.03496371 CeltoGermanic:Irish
0.05245820 BaltoSlavic:Polish
0.06026656 BaltoSlavic:Ukrainian
0.06669913 BaltoSlavic:Russian_Orel
0.06883221 West_Med:Basque_French
0.07361341 West_Med:Basque_Spanish
0.08165808 Finnic:Estonian
0.08387695 BaltoSlavic:Lithuanian
0.09362246 PaleoBalkan:Albanian
0.09407338 BaltoSlavic:Latvian
0.09654462 PaleoBalkan:Greek
0.10035225 Finnic:Karelian
0.13880099 PaleoBalkan:Greek_Crete
0.15016936 West_Med:Sardinian
0.17655395 Caucasian:North_Ossetian
0.18558871 Iranic:Tajik_Shugnan
0.18789386 Caucasian:Armenian
0.19039705 Levantine:Syrian
0.19810415 Finnic:Saami
0.19877362 Caucasian:Georgian_Imer
0.20863856 Iranic:Iranian_Mazandarani