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axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:26 PM
https://youtu.be/0htDx-f5rBc

https://youtu.be/a2DqY4U2vm4


The Hazaras are an ethnic group of Afghanistan. They primarily reside in the Hazarajat region in central Afghanistan. Hazaras are also a significant minority in Pakistan (mainly in Quetta) and Iran (mainly in Mashhad). They speak the Hazaragi dialects of Persian.

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:27 PM
https://i.ibb.co/47Vg1wX/IMG-20240625-171028.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/M79YmCm/IMG-20240625-171122.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3W76PT0/IMG-20240625-171040.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/2Zyw70H/IMG-20240625-171106.jpg

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:33 PM
Hazara_22,0.06431,-0.1697318,-0.0023827,0.0029951,-0.0409586,0.0030425,0.0087166,0.0077515,-0.0117043,-0.0041831,-0.0253031,-0.0016214,0.0019393,-0.0017954,0.0040161,0.0052794,-0.0029455,0.0005298,0.0008171,-0.0006991,-0.0070898,-0.0024,-0.0048122,-0.001813,0.0004954
Mongol,0.0412912,-0.359704906,0.048662302,-0.032317177,-0.029374502,-0.019324773,0.013022159,0.014073811,-0.001041566,0.009412502,-0.043192132,-0.003041438,0.003346075,0.002478842,-0.002688354,-0.000999283,-0.002584634,-0.000357442,-0.000664732,0.007380203,-0.009568049,-0.000691057,-0.011654932,-0.000624781,-0.002695943
Iranic,0.0878076,0.038664,-0.0684795,0.0423871,-0.0597821,0.0285,0.0035799,-0.000075,-0.0247325,-0.0198384,-0.004993,0.0002238,0.000002,-0.0088304,0.0129487,0.0136995,-0.0026476,0.0017556,0.0020407,-0.0100097,-0.0040946,-0.00458,0.0018416,-0.0034829,0.0042835
Slavic,0.126344,0.129988,0.065242,0.049096,0.03046 7,0.024821,0.00799,0.010846,-0.008999,-0.014761,-0.007145,-0.003597,0.0055,0.025873,-0.00855,-0.007292,-0.01369,-0.001774,0.00905,-0.006878,-0.007237,-0.000618,0.018487,0.001687,0.001317
Mongolian,0.029699147,-0.425345012,0.047516344,-0.042370808,-0.027613312,-0.020275768,0.013631095,0.014772446,0.000619464,0. 013059557,-0.053021343,-0.004261497,0.004902697,0.00479664,-0.004066051,-0.000625444,-0.003384301,0.000443786,-0.000688171,0.007645105,-0.008855062,-0.000255131,-0.012474552,-0.001231323,-0.002738415
Turkic,0.0726627,-0.1820635,0.0517636,-0.0051091,-0.0341408,-0.0167511,0.0113742,0.0121831,-0.0055368,-0.0004575,-0.0165914,0.0002604,-0.0008666,-0.0037938,0.0010401,-0.002011,-0.0004205,-0.0025258,-0.0006013,0.0066633,-0.0114976,-0.0018708,-0.0094368,0.0010167,-0.002581
MNG_Late_Med_Khitan,0.0295943,-0.41569,0.053174,-0.0462967,-0.022158,-0.0163613,0.015746,0.0129997,0.0018407,0.008322,-0.0567277,-0.0020483,0.0007927,0.001101,-0.002488,-0.0011047,-0.002912,-0.0046027,0.005112,0.009963,-0.0066963,-0.0104283,-0.0146667,8.03e-05,-0.0002393
https://i.ibb.co/09Ghtqk/IMG-20240625-180207.png

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:34 PM
Hazara Y-DNA (n=665)

C 44%
E 2%
G 3%
H 2.4%
I2 4%
J2 13.2%
N 2.5%
O 2.5%
Q 3%
R1a 9.5%
R1b 5.3%

B 0.4%
F 2%
L 1.3%
M 0.3%
R1 3.8%
R2 0.8%

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:36 PM
Hazara Y-lineages

Mongolic origin
https://yfull.com/tree/C-F12663/
https://yfull.com/tree/C-Y125520/
https://yfull.com/tree/C-F14880/
https://yfull.com/tree/C-ACT3470/
https://yfull.com/tree/O-Y148532/
https://yfull.com/tree/O-MF55116/

Iranic origin
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-Y29468/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-M158/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-Z7507/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-SK2031/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-FGC23963/
https://yfull.com/tree/L-Z5921/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-Y159137/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-A12329/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Z29138/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y31437/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1123/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-ZS6592/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-PH1157/

Turkic origin
https://yfull.com/tree/R-FT289648/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y210252/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-YP4000/

European origin
https://yfull.com/tree/I-Y6512/

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:51 PM
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axlredneck
06-25-2024, 12:52 PM
I'd like the opinion of TA Afghans....

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 01:07 PM
Medieval Mongols on G25 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?385174-Medieval-Mongols-on-G25)

Ajeje Brazorf
06-25-2024, 01:54 PM
Best fit models


Target: Hazara
Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01167815 | R2P
62.5 Kazakh_China
37.5 Tajik_Afghanistan


Target: Hazara
Distance: 0.0058% / 0.00582939 | R3P
41.4 Tajik_Afghanistan
33.3 Kazakh_Xinjiang
25.3 Mongol_IMAR


Target: Hazara
Distance: 0.0047% / 0.00471941 | R4P
47.6 Kazakh_Xinjiang
21.9 Arain
15.8 Turkmen
14.7 Yuku


Target: Hazara
Distance: 0.0046% / 0.00460358 | R4P
50.6 Kazakh_Xinjiang
22.1 Arain
14.3 Yuku
13.0 Turkmen_Iran

Beowulf
06-25-2024, 02:45 PM
added some samples for me:

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0171% / 0.01710383
71.7 Iberian
13.0 Germanic
11.4 Slavic
3.9 Iranic

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 02:45 PM
C2 (previously known as C3-Star cluster) is the most frequent haplogroup in Pakistani and Afghan Hazaras.

Avicenna
06-25-2024, 03:17 PM
Yep just as I expected, roughly half indeginous iranic and the other half pure Mongol. They are essentially like the mestizos of Afghanistan

axlredneck
06-25-2024, 04:33 PM
Maternal haplogroups

The Hazara share c. 35% maternal haplogroups with contemporary East Asian populations, while c. 65% is shared with West Eurasian populations.

axlredneck
06-26-2024, 10:13 AM
Yep just as I expected, roughly half indeginous iranic and the other half pure Mongol. They are essentially like the mestizos of Afghanistan

Are Aimaqs Hazaras or a different ethnicity?

Avicenna
06-26-2024, 01:17 PM
Are Aimaqs Hazaras or a different ethnicity?

They are Essentially sunni hazaras, Alot of them could be admixed with Tajiks and Pashtuns hence the sort of have their own unique look. Ghor province is where they mainly inhabit ,it's in central Afghanistan. The famous minaret of jam is there. Beautiful province.

axlredneck
07-04-2024, 02:20 PM
https://youtu.be/sJKA-6TY7W8

Leto
07-04-2024, 02:22 PM
Would a half Afghan Pashtun half Mongolian mix render a Hazara person?

axlredneck
07-04-2024, 02:26 PM
Would a half Afghan Pashtun half Mongolian mix render a Hazara person?

Yeah, I guess. But would he identify as a Hazara?

Leto
07-04-2024, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I guess. But would he identify as a Hazara?
He would not because the Hazaras are a stabilized ethnic group and they are Shia Muslims.

tk'es
07-11-2024, 01:58 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 9.4595% / 0.09459540
59.2 Iranic
40.8 Slavic



Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.12417620 Iranic
0.15050707 Slavic
0.28497520 Hazara_22
0.30417016 Turkic
0.48023878 Mongol
0.53829682 MNG_Late_Med_Khitan
0.54680682 Mongolian