Interpretation of admixture of Paleolithic humans in G25

[Russki]

This is the first ever attempt to interpret the autosomal makeup of Paleolithic humans in G25.

Don't take the labels of admixtures too literally. They represent extreme positions in a 25-dimensional PCA.

Each extreme position in a PCA is more "extreme" than any modern or ancient population. When you model something less "extreme", it will capture exotic components as a counter-measure to those "extremities".

https://pastebin.com/EuXBA5jA

Target: Austria_Krems1_1
Distance: 0.0297% / 0.02968206 | R7P
21.9 West_Med
20.5 Northern_Eurasian
17.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
14.2 Non-African
11.8 Northeast_African
8.4 West_Asian
5.6 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Austria_KremsWA3
Distance: 0.0502% / 0.05015349 | R7P
23.6 Northern_Eurasian
22.3 West_Med
17.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.3 Non-African
10.7 Northeast_African
7.0 West_Asian
5.5 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
Distance: 0.0408% / 0.04079016 | R7P
24.6 Northern_Eurasian
23.5 Northwestern_Eurasian
21.4 Northeast_African
18.1 West_Asian
5.8 Non-African
4.6 Atlantic-Baltic
2.0 Eastern_Non-African

Target: Belgium_UP_Magdalenian_udg
Distance: 0.0566% / 0.05658121 | R7P
23.9 Northwestern_Eurasian
20.3 Northern_Eurasian
17.6 Non-African
16.4 West_Med
9.0 Northeast_African
7.8 Atlantic-Baltic
5.0 West_Asian

Target: Bulgaria_BachoKiro_LatePleistocene
Distance: 0.0341% / 0.03409729 | R7P
33.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
20.4 East_Asian
19.5 Northern_Eurasian
14.1 South_Asian
5.4 Northeast_African
4.4 Sub-Saharan_African
2.6 Non-African
Target: China_AmurRiver_LPaleolithic
Distance: 0.0233% / 0.02325436 | R7P
51.2 East_Asian
15.5 East_Eurasian
9.3 Northwestern_Eurasian
6.9 Maori
6.6 Oceanian
5.8 North_African
4.7 East_Med

Target: China_AmurRiver_Paleolithic
Distance: 0.0349% / 0.03494661 | R7P
27.8 East_Asian
23.2 West_Asian
19.3 South_Asian
14.8 Northeast_African
7.8 Northern_Eurasian
4.4 Sub-Saharan_African
2.7 Non-African

^ My interpretation of the two results above is that by the Late Paleolithic there became a more clear differentiation between West Eurasians and East Eurasians compared to earlier stages of the Paleolithic.

Target: China_Fujian_Qihe_Epipaleolithic
Distance: 0.0297% / 0.02970403 | R7P
43.7 East_Asian
12.3 Northwestern_Eurasian
11.9 East_Eurasian
11.5 Non-African
10.8 South_Asian
7.8 Maori
2.0 East_Med

Target: China_Guangxi_Longlin_Epipaleolithic
Distance: 0.0350% / 0.03496923 | R7P
35.4 East_Asian
15.8 West_Asian
13.5 South_Asian
12.2 Non-African
10.0 East_Eurasian
9.1 Northeast_African
4.0 Northern_Eurasian

Target: China_Tianyuan
Distance: 0.0368% / 0.03677035 | R7P
26.8 East_Asian
25.2 West_Asian
19.2 South_Asian
14.8 Northeast_African
7.9 Northern_Eurasian
3.4 Non-African
2.7 Sub-Saharan_African

Target: Czech_Vestonice16
Distance: 0.0342% / 0.03424714 | R7P
22.8 Northern_Eurasian
20.6 West_Med
19.2 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.3 Non-African
11.4 Northeast_African
7.7 West_Asian
5.0 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Czech_Vestonice43
Distance: 0.0445% / 0.04454932 | R7P
22.0 West_Med
20.2 Northwestern_Eurasian
18.5 Northern_Eurasian
15.5 Non-African
10.4 Northeast_African
7.7 West_Asian
5.7 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Czechia_Bohemia_UP_HG
Distance: 0.0278% / 0.02776694 | R7P
23.2 South_Asian
22.8 Northwestern_Eurasian
16.9 East_Asian
13.9 Northern_Eurasian
11.9 Caucasus
8.0 Sub-Saharan_African
3.3 Northeast_African

Target: Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
Distance: 0.0412% / 0.04116135 | R7P
22.6 West_Med
21.4 Northern_Eurasian
18.4 Northwestern_Eurasian
15.2 Non-African
10.5 Northeast_African
6.4 West_Asian
5.5 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Italy_Tagliente_LPaleolithic
Distance: 0.1444% / 0.14439435 | R7P
40.2 Northwestern_Eurasian
16.6 Northern_Eurasian
16.0 Non-African
8.6 West_Med
8.1 Atlantic-Baltic
7.0 Northeast_African
3.5 East_Eurasian

Target: Mongolia_Salkhit_UP.SG
Distance: 0.0402% / 0.04024812 | R7P
33.1 East_Asian
18.1 Non-African
17.6 Khoisan
17.5 Amerindian
6.0 Northern_Eurasian
4.1 South_Asian
3.6 Northeast_African

Target: Romania_Oase_UP_enhanced
Distance: 0.0253% / 0.02529111 | R7P
40.0 West_Med
19.0 Northern_Eurasian
17.6 South_Asian
15.6 East_Asian
3.3 Sub-Saharan_African
3.1 Northeast_African
1.4 Eastern_Non-African

Target: Romania_PesteraMuierii_EUP
Distance: 0.0373% / 0.03733636 | R7P
23.1 Northern_Eurasian
22.4 West_Med
15.1 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.9 Non-African
11.4 Northeast_African
9.5 West_Asian
4.6 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Russia_Kostenki14
Distance: 0.0352% / 0.03524276 | R7P
24.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
21.4 South_Asian
19.5 West_Asian
16.2 Northern_Eurasian
11.9 Northeast_African
3.4 Non-African
3.0 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Russia_LenaRiver_LUP.SG
Distance: 0.0167% / 0.01674778 | R7P
36.9 East_Asian
17.4 Northwestern_Eurasian
12.3 Amerindian
12.2 Northern_Eurasian
11.0 East_Eurasian
5.4 Maori
4.8 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Russia_Siberia_UP
Distance: 0.0159% / 0.01590543 | R7P
42.1 East_Asian
16.7 Northwestern_Eurasian
12.5 Amerindian
10.6 East_Eurasian
9.2 Northern_Eurasian
6.4 Oceanian
2.5 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Russia_Sunghir1.SG
Distance: 0.0296% / 0.02962254 | R7P
30.3 Northwestern_Eurasian
17.4 Northern_Eurasian
15.2 East_Asian
13.7 Northeast_African
13.6 West_Asian
5.6 Non-African
4.2 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Russia_Sunghir2.SG
Distance: 0.0398% / 0.03982370 | R7P
26.4 Northwestern_Eurasian
19.4 South_Asian
18.1 West_Asian
16.3 Northern_Eurasian
12.2 Northeast_African
4.3 Atlantic-Baltic
3.3 Non-African

Target: Russia_Sunghir3.SG
Distance: 0.0386% / 0.03855908 | R7P
25.3 Northwestern_Eurasian
18.9 South_Asian
18.1 West_Asian
16.1 Northern_Eurasian
12.3 Northeast_African
5.0 Non-African
4.3 Atlantic-Baltic

Target: Russia_Sunghir4.SG
Distance: 0.0399% / 0.03988920 | R7P
25.7 Northwestern_Eurasian
25.1 Northern_Eurasian
21.0 Northeast_African
19.3 West_Asian
3.3 Non-African
3.2 Atlantic-Baltic
2.4 Northeast_Asian

Target: Russia_Ust_Ishim.DG
Distance: 0.0362% / 0.03624071 | R7P
40.1 East_Asian
29.7 Amerindian
9.7 South_Asian
8.3 Northern_Eurasian
5.1 Sub-Saharan_African
4.5 Northeast_African
2.6 Non-African

Target: Russia_Yana_UP.SG
Distance: 0.0314% / 0.03136202 | R7P
36.9 Northwestern_Eurasian
21.8 East_Asian
20.7 Northern_Eurasian
12.7 South_Asian
3.5 Northeast_African
2.6 Atlantic-Baltic
1.8 Northeast_Asian

Target: Spain_ElMiron
Distance: 0.0690% / 0.06895699 | R7P
30.3 Northwestern_Eurasian
17.3 Northern_Eurasian
16.9 Non-African
12.6 West_Med
9.7 Northeast_African
7.4 Atlantic-Baltic
5.8 West_Asian

Target: Spain_UP_Azilian
Distance: 0.1002% / 0.10021006 | R7P
36.7 Northwestern_Eurasian
16.5 Non-African
15.9 Northern_Eurasian
9.2 Atlantic-Baltic
8.7 West_Med
8.1 Northeast_African
4.9 West_Asian

Target: Taiwan_Liangdao_LatePaleolithic.SG
Distance: 0.0435% / 0.04346011 | R7P
38.3 East_Asian
13.2 East_Eurasian
12.6 Non-African
10.9 Northeast_Asian
10.2 East_Med
9.8 Northern_Eurasian
5.0 South_Asian

Target: Turkey_Epipaleolithic
Distance: 0.0333% / 0.03325758 | R7P
47.0 West_Med
20.7 Non-African
11.5 Atlantic-Baltic
8.1 East_Med
4.7 Northeast_African
4.0 Northwestern_Eurasian
4.0 Oceanian

[Russki]

You can model yourself using R7P:

https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html

Reduce - 7 populations
Add dist col - no
Print zeroes - no
Aggregate - yes

https://sun9-74.userapi.com/impg/79ywV64iWoBveJzYxDgC7SOF40w7hTwcIPfi-Q/EfmTGybbFpY.jpg?size=526x171&quality=95&sign=d124f809331fddb69469d3a7cf4db328&type=album (https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html)

Scaled coordinates:

https://pastebin.com/EuXBA5jA

[Balboa]

Target: BALBOA
Distance: 0.0290% / 0.02901948 | R7P
47.9 West_Med
27.4 Paleolithic_Eurasian
12.1 Atlantic-Baltic
5.4 East_Med
2.7 Mesolithic_European
2.3 Oceanian
2.2 Northeast_African

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.0149% / 0.01487048 | R7P
27.7 West_Med
16.1 Mesolithic_Eurasian
13.9 Mesolithic_European
13.8 Paleolithic_Eurasian
13.0 Atlantic-Baltic
9.5 South_Asian
6.0 East_Eurasian

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0162% / 0.01619643 | R7P
29.0 West_Med
22.6 Non-African
13.3 Northwestern_Eurasian
12.5 East_Asian
12.3 Atlantic-Baltic
9.0 East_Eurasian
1.3 Northeast_African

[Russki]

To avoid confusion with historical populations, I decided to rename three dimensions:

"Mesolithic_European" will now be known as "Northwestern_Eurasian";

"Mesolithic_Eurasian" will now be known as "Northern_Eurasian";

"Paleolithic_Eurasian" will now be known as "Non-African".

[vader]

Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 0.0196% / 0.01964235 | R7P
33.1 Non-African
32.1 West_Med
13.7 East_Eurasian
9.6 Atlantic-Baltic
5.1 Northwestern_Eurasian
3.4 Caucasus
3.0 Northeast_African

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 0.0165% / 0.01645007 | R7P
31.7 Amerindian
19.2 Northwestern_Eurasian
15.7 East_Asian
15.3 Northern_Eurasian
7.6 West_Med
5.3 Atlantic-Baltic
5.2 East_Eurasian

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0186% / 0.01864080 | R7P
33.0 West_Med
16.9 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.4 South_Asian
12.9 Non-African
12.1 Atlantic-Baltic
9.2 East_Asian
2.5 Northeast_African

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.88085496 West_Med
0.88171053 Atlantic-Baltic
0.95881357 Northwestern_Eurasian
0.97423583 Northern_Eurasian
0.98536564 Non-African
1.00279183 Non-African
1.00321157 East_Eurasian
1.00636845 Northern_Eurasian
1.00856108 Caucasus
1.00863842 South_Asian
1.01278302 East_Asian
1.01356769 East_Asian
1.01465238 Western_Non-African
1.01511056 East_Asian
1.01553407 Northeast_African
1.01625757 West_Asian
1.01658618 East_Asian
1.01884516 Pygmy
1.01910032 East_Eurasian
1.02135276 Maori
1.02179130 Northern_Eurasian
1.02186763 West_Med
1.02239300 East_Asian
1.02262870 Caucasus
1.02275875 Khoisan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.2530% / 0.00253012
15.4 West_Med
13.4 Atlantic-Baltic
9.0 Northern_Eurasian
8.6 East_Asian
8.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
7.6 Non-African
5.8 East_Eurasian
5.8 South_Asian
4.2 Caucasus
3.2 West_Asian
2.4 Western_Non-African
2.2 Red_Sea
1.8 Amerindian
1.8 Maori
1.8 Northeast_African
1.6 Eastern_Non-African
1.6 North_African
1.2 Baltic
1.2 Khoisan
1.2 Pygmy
1.0 Northeast_Asian
0.6 Oceanian

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.0186% / 0.01864080 | R7P
33.0 West_Med
16.9 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.4 South_Asian
12.9 Non-African
12.1 Atlantic-Baltic
9.2 East_Asian
2.5 Northeast_African

It's a little hard to believe you are only 6% more West Mediterranean than me. Don't you think that's a little strange?

[ScandinavianCelt]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.88085496 West_Med
0.88171053 Atlantic-Baltic
0.95881357 Northwestern_Eurasian
0.97423583 Northern_Eurasian
0.98536564 Non-African
1.00279183 Non-African
1.00321157 East_Eurasian
1.00636845 Northern_Eurasian
1.00856108 Caucasus
1.00863842 South_Asian
1.01278302 East_Asian
1.01356769 East_Asian
1.01465238 Western_Non-African
1.01511056 East_Asian
1.01553407 Northeast_African
1.01625757 West_Asian
1.01658618 East_Asian
1.01884516 Pygmy
1.01910032 East_Eurasian
1.02135276 Maori
1.02179130 Northern_Eurasian
1.02186763 West_Med
1.02239300 East_Asian
1.02262870 Caucasus
1.02275875 Khoisan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.2530% / 0.00253012
15.4 West_Med
13.4 Atlantic-Baltic
9.0 Northern_Eurasian
8.6 East_Asian
8.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
7.6 Non-African
5.8 East_Eurasian
5.8 South_Asian
4.2 Caucasus
3.2 West_Asian
2.4 Western_Non-African
2.2 Red_Sea
1.8 Amerindian
1.8 Maori
1.8 Northeast_African
1.6 Eastern_Non-African
1.6 North_African
1.2 Baltic
1.2 Khoisan
1.2 Pygmy
1.0 Northeast_Asian
0.6 Oceanian

You have to use his link to do the r7p calculation at least for the sake of uniformity in the thread we can see how people compare

[ScandinavianCelt]

I ran it again with new labels for easier comps:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.0149% / 0.01487048 | R7P
27.3 West_Med
16.4 Northern_Eurasian
14.0 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.7 Non-African
13.0 Atlantic-Baltic
9.3 South_Asian
6.3 East_Eurasian

[Demirkazık]

Target: Demir_scaled
Distance: 0.0258% / 0.02577673 | R7P
24.2 West_Med
22.1 Northern_Eurasian
13.8 East_Med
12.8 East_Eurasian
10.0 Northeast_Asian
9.1 Atlantic-Baltic
8.0 East_Asian

[Ænglishman]

Target: Ænglishman
Distance: 0.0172% / 0.01723901 | R7P
24.2 West_Med
17.7 Northwestern_Eurasian
15.3 Northern_Eurasian
14.9 Non-African
12.9 Atlantic-Baltic
8.6 East_Asian
6.4 East_Eurasian

This looks like an enormous amount of East Eurasian to me, but it is very interesting.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Ænglishman
Distance: 0.0172% / 0.01723901 | R7P
24.2 West_Med
17.7 Northwestern_Eurasian
15.3 Northern_Eurasian
14.9 Non-African
12.9 Atlantic-Baltic
8.6 East_Asian
6.4 East_Eurasian

This looks like an enormous amount of East Eurasian to me, but it is very interesting.

Yah. We have similar results but I get South Asian and you get East Asian on this calculator.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Updated Ancestry vs 23andMe

Target: SC_2ndOfficial_Ancestry_Scaled
Distance: 0.0133% / 0.01328035 | R7P
24.5 West_Med
18.1 Northern_Eurasian
17.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
14.2 Non-African
12.5 Atlantic-Baltic
7.3 East_Asian
5.8 East_Eurasian

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 0.0144% / 0.01439127 | R7P
24.9 West_Med
18.4 Northern_Eurasian
16.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
13.2 Non-African
12.9 Atlantic-Baltic
7.3 East_Asian
6.7 East_Eurasian

[ScandinavianCelt]

@Russki

Your calc is good in that the variation for both G25 sets is not nearly as distinguished as other modern scaled or unscaled

Ваш расчет хорош тем, что вариация для обоих наборов данных G25 не так дифференцирована, как для более современных, как масштабированных, так и немасштабированных. С официальным "современным немасштабированным" я получаю эти вариации в R7P с обоими новейшими официальными наборами координат G25.



Target: SC_Official_23andMe_UNscaled
Distance: 0.0046% / 0.00461317 | R7P
47.5 Irish
17.0 German
14.9 Polish
8.2 Norwegian
6.5 Swedish
3.4 Paniya
2.5 Koryak

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry_UNscaled
Distance: 0.0011% / 0.00113271 | R7P
49.4 Irish
16.8 Swedish
14.9 Danish
9.5 French_Occitanie
3.4 Polish
3.1 Greenlander_West
2.9 Pashtun_Pakistan_Khattak_Nowshera

and the averaged G25 of both:

Target: SC_Official_UNscaled_Averaged
Distance: 0.0023% / 0.00227383 | R7P
52.8 Irish
14.2 German
12.3 Polish
9.2 Swedish
6.0 Norwegian
3.0 Baniya_Uttar_Pradesh_Gupta
2.5 Koryak

В этом году на вечеринке я встретил несколько симпатичных француженок лет 20 и спросил их, не считают ли они, что я похож на француженку, и они не решались говорить, но все трое согласились, что я больше похож на немку, сказали они. Пара немецких студентов в городе тоже подумали, что я похож на немку. Но большинство американцев думают, что я похож на шведа или норвежца, но ирландские американцы утверждают, что видят, что я ирландец. Я просто чувствую себя американцем в данный момент, с некоторой долей коряков, по-видимому. Я тайно хочу жить в иглу и есть китовый жир, но не рассказывать об этом на форуме.

[Athalafuns]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 0.0110% / 0.01102549 | R7P
32.4 West_Med
19.5 East_Asian
17.6 Northwestern_Eurasian
16.1 Non-African
10.8 Atlantic-Baltic
2.4 Northeast_African
1.2 Caucasus