Laz on G25

[axlredneck]

https://youtu.be/bMXUhMsMAzg

https://youtu.be/A3lfILPOU0M


The Laz people are a Kartvelian ethnic group native to the South Caucasus, who mainly live in Black Sea coastal regions of Turkey and Georgia. They traditionally speak the Laz language.

Modern theories suggest that the Colchian tribes are direct ancestors of the Laz-Mingrelians, they constituted the dominant ethnic and cultural presence in the south-eastern Black Sea region in antiquity.

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/XFQvPvr/IMG-20240714-201351.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/WyXgG1W/IMG-20240714-201317.jpg

[axlredneck]

Laz,0.1101088,0.1388069,-0.0571438,-0.058361,-0.0320059,-0.0111851,0.0088932,-0.0055747,-0.0498499,-0.0103587,0.002564,0.0095835,-0.0173229,0.0042881,-0.0044359,-0.0142638,0.0103964,-0.0013202,-0.0034204,0.0099193,0.0071978,0.0024405,-0.0001102,-0.0076674,-0.0013045
Colchian,0.11320402,0.13605973,-0.05762858,-0.05004466,-0.03893596,-0.00427538,0.01130116,-0.00441817,-0.06564741,-0.02146995,0.00167377,0.01376823,-0.02414881,0.0047127,0.00080572,-0.02157747,0.01283204,-0.00300381,-0.00748751,0.01769236,0.01083729,0.00267907,0.0014 337,-0.01138151,-0.00403156
Armenian,0.1033892,0.1357423,-0.059711,-0.0621775,-0.029185,-0.0164545,0.0045042,-0.007269,-0.0311217,-0.0032497,0.0026793,0.0010488,-0.0033945,0.0030507,-0.0073742,-0.0001987,0.0020645,0.0019847,0.0026397,-0.0009172,0.0012688,0.0015868,-0.0016228,-0.0001605,0.0056678
Anatolian,0.1084166,0.1571532,-0.0501257,-0.089471,-0.0054112,-0.0331182,0.0060122,-0.0077303,-0.0121692,0.0274568,0.0064413,0.0062692,-0.0119299,0.0046448,-0.0230498,-0.0068836,0.0147443,0.0002535,0.00397,-0.0055962,0.0015286,0.0029365,-0.0043855,-0.004599,-0.0017762

https://i.ibb.co/v4Sn2Bz/IMG-20240714-213046.png

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/JmKZJ0B/IMG-20240714-213950.jpg

[axlredneck]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Arkhabi.jpg
Statue of a Laz man and woman in Arhavi, Turkey

[Demirkazık]

In Trabzon, Y-DNA-wise, west of Yomra is about 50% G2, 20% L1b, and 20% J2/J1, while east of Yomra—including Yomra itself—is about 30% L1b, 20% J2, and 20% G2. East has much more Lazuri speakers while West has more Romeika speakers if I'm correct.

The chart was posted on Turkish DNA project, since I'm on my phone rn I'll post them later.

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/XFQvPvr/IMG-20240714-201351.jpg

The Armenian ancestry is from Hemshins (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemshin_people).

[axlredneck]

In Trabzon, Y-DNA-wise, west of Yomra is about 50% G2, 20% L1b, and 20% J2/J1, while east of Yomra—including Yomra itself—is about 30% L1b, 20% J2, and 20% G2. East has much more Lazuri speakers while West has more Romeika speakers if I'm correct.

The chart was posted on Turkish DNA project, since I'm on my phone rn I'll post them later.

These ones?
https://i.ibb.co/sWSWsC6/FB-IMG-1720974518771.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pzQh713/FB-IMG-1720974520926.jpg

[axlredneck]

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What do you think about the Pontic L1b Y-line?
https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-PH438/

[axlredneck]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Egrisi-4-5_cc.svg/1280px-Egrisi-4-5_cc.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Lazistan-Sanjak.png
Lazistan Sanjak within the Trebizond Vilayet in 1890


Lazistan was the Ottoman administrative name for the sanjak, under Trebizond Vilayet, comprising the Laz or Lazuri-speaking population on the southeastern shore of the Black Sea. It covered modern day land of contemporary Rize Province and the littoral of contemporary Artvin Province.

[axlredneck]

An Interesting read: The Laz: Two Tales of One People (https://chaikhana.media/en/stories/481/the-laz-two-tales-of-one-people)

[axlredneck]

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[axlredneck]

Anatolian / Caucasian / Armenian clades of haplogroup G

Anatolian
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-M406/

Caucasian
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-Z6744/
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-L1266/

Armenian
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-GG266/

[Leto]

They might be close to the Adjarians who also live on the Black Sea coast. Though I think Turkey being a unitary republic modeled after France is not very supportive of minority languages, so the Laz language is probably spoken only by older people.

[Anatolya]

Distance to: Anatolya_scaled
0.06558440 Laz

[Vesta]

Genetically, they have a lot in common with the Ahiska Turks. Adjarians seem to have a slightly higher proportion of Caucasian hunter-gatherer genes.