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ScandinavianCelt
07-29-2024, 06:03 AM
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This calc might work best for northern Europeans, but should be sufficient for most.

Post whatever, but R5P might be best.



My R5P and full spread:

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.1309% / 0.01130925 | R5P
42.2 East_Scandinavian
35.6 Celtic
12.2 West_Scandinavian
6.6 East_Med
3.4 Arctic
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Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 0.9965% / 0.00996496
47.6 East_Scandinavian
31.0 Celtic
13.4 West_Scandinavian
5.8 East_Med
1.2 South_Indian
0.8 Amazonian
0.2 Khomani_San

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.0138% / 0.01013800 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.8 East_Scandinavian
32.6 Celtic
13.6 West_Scandinavian
5.8 East_Med
1.2 South_Indian
1.0 Mayan

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.0455% / 0.01045467 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.6 East_Scandinavian
37.8 Celtic
11.6 West_Scandinavian
7.8 Caucasian
1.2 South_Indian
1.0 Amerindian_North

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.5666% / 0.01566600 | ADC: 1x RC
43.2 East_Scandinavian
38.0 Celtic
18.8 West_Scandinavian

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.6196% / 0.01619556 | ADC: 2x RC
50.6 East_Scandinavian
49.4 Celtic

Gallop
07-29-2024, 06:46 AM
I replaced Spain with Andalusia and eliminated the Basque.


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.3859% / 0.02385873
36.2 Spanish_Andalucia
31.8 Celtic
26.2 West_Med
2.0 Northern_French
1.8 Finn
1.4 Khomani_San
0.6 Italian_NW

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4570% / 0.02457024
40.0 Northern_French
34.8 West_Med
14.2 Spanish_Andalucia
5.6 Baltic
2.8 Finn
2.6 Khomani_San

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 2.5350% / 0.02535018
34.0 West_Med
30.0 Spanish_Andalucia
13.6 Celtic
11.4 Northern_French
5.0 Baltic
3.8 Caucasian
1.8 Khomani_San
0.4 East_Scandinavian



Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.8018% / 0.02801767 | ADC: 1x RC
74.2 Spanish_Andalucia
17.4 Northern_French
8.4 Italian_NE

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.4255% / 0.03425474 | ADC: 1x RC
65.2 Spanish_Andalucia
34.8 Italian_NE

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 3.1834% / 0.03183422 | ADC: 1x RC
73.0 Spanish_Andalucia
27.0 Italian_NW

Grace O'Malley
07-29-2024, 07:19 AM
Mine is the same whether ADC or no ADC and also on 5 pop.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6939% / 0.01693879 | R5P
59.6 Celtic
40.4 Northern-Germanic

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6939% / 0.01693879 | ADC: 2x RC
59.6 Celtic
40.4 Northern-Germanic

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6939% / 0.01693879 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.6 Celtic
40.4 Northern-Germanic

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6939% / 0.01693879 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Celtic
40.4 Northern-Germanic

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6939% / 0.01693879
59.6 Celtic
40.4 Northern-Germanic

cass
07-29-2024, 08:05 AM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9397% / 0.00939669 | ADC: 0.25x
67.2 West_Slavic
15.0 East_Scandinavian
10.8 West_German
6.0 Baltic
1.0 Basque_French


Target: cass
Distance: 0.8800% / 0.00879992 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.0 West_Slavic
15.6 East_Scandinavian
13.8 Baltic
8.4 West_German
6.2 Basque_French

0.25x is quite sufficient for me and corresponds to the distances.

R5P makes no sense to me. It dates back to Neolithic times, hence the presence of the Globular Amphora/Basque_French,
and then Roman times.


Target: cass
Distance: 0.8227% / 0.00822700 | R5P
36.8 Baltic
24.2 Balkan
21.0 East_Scandinavian
13.4 Celtic_England
4.6 Basque_French

Target: cass
Distance: 0.9374% / 0.00937356 | R3P
40.2 Baltic
34.6 Celtic_England
25.2 Balkan

Rafael Passoni
07-29-2024, 08:41 AM
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.3162% / 0.02316193
37.0 Italian_NE
28.6 East_Med
23.6 West_Med
10.8 Italian_NW

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.3162% / 0.02316193 | R5P
37.0 Italian_NE
28.6 East_Med
23.6 West_Med
10.8 Italian_NW

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.3162% / 0.02316193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.0 Italian_NE
28.6 East_Med
23.6 West_Med
10.8 Italian_NW

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.4178% / 0.02417795 | ADC: 0.5x RC
62.6 Italian_NW
18.8 West_Med
18.6 East_Med

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 3.0579% / 0.03057934 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Italian_NW


Distance to: me_scaled
0.03057934 Italian_NW
0.04319169 Italian_NE
0.05157503 East_Med
0.05259922 Spanish
0.05571663 Caucasian
0.06624806 Balkan
0.07523369 Basque_Spanish
0.07682544 Basque_French
0.08159735 West_Med
0.08165502 Northern_French
0.08928912 South-German
0.09018163 German
0.09943126 Celtic_England
0.10083363 English
0.10482451 West_German
0.10701692 Celtic
0.10809284 Celto-Germanic
0.11066652 Northern-Germanic
0.11117799 Slovakian
0.11280604 West_Slavic
0.11652863 West_Scandinavian
0.11672418 East_Scandinavian
0.13385323 East_Slavic
0.15270765 Uralic
0.17129338 Baltic

Athalafuns
07-29-2024, 09:00 AM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.7628% / 0.01762791 | R5P
90.4 Spanish
7.4 West_German
1.4 South_Indian
0.8 Khomani_San

Kostek
07-29-2024, 09:08 AM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.4749% / 0.02474866 | R5P
45.8 Baltic
26.8 East_Slavic
16.4 West_Scandinavian
11.0 East_Med

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.4510% / 0.02450981 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.4 Baltic
27.0 East_Slavic
18.2 Balkan
14.8 West_Scandinavian
0.6 Khomani_San

EasternLusitanian
07-29-2024, 11:20 AM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0264% / 0.02643085
76.2 Spanish
14.2 East_Med
7.5 West_Med
1.0 Khomani_San
0.6 Papuan
0.5 Mayan

Solitude
07-29-2024, 12:02 PM
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.2804% / 0.02280359
37.8 Spanish
23.8 SSA
14.2 West_Med
10.6 Northern-Germanic
7.2 Native_Brazilian
2.6 South_Amerindian
2.4 Slovakian
1.4 Papuan

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.4071% / 0.02407136 | R5P
30.2 Spanish
23.8 SSA
18.4 Northern-Germanic
17.0 West_Med
10.6 Amerindian

Danjojo
07-29-2024, 12:52 PM
Pretty good

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.3641% / 0.00364145
19.6 Slovakian
16.0 English
15.2 Baltic
9.8 West_German
8.2 East_Scandinavian
8.0 Balkan
8.0 West_Med
5.2 Celtic
4.6 Uralic
3.8 West_Scandinavian
1.0 Italian_NE
0.6 East_Slavic


Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.4751% / 0.00475051 | ADC: 0.25x RC
26.8 West_German
24.0 West_Slavic
15.6 South-German
15.2 Slovakian
11.8 Basque_French
6.6 Uralic

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.4470% / 0.00447012 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.8 Slovakian
23.4 Celtic
21.6 East_Slavic
11.4 West_Scandinavian
7.8 West_Med

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.5338% / 0.00533810 | R3P
68.0 West_Slavic
25.8 Celtic
6.2 West_Med

Distance to: DanjojoG25sim
0.01462890 West_German
0.01564171 South-German
0.01942710 German
0.02157881 West_Slavic
0.02567162 Slovakian
0.03023369 Northern-Germanic
0.03083535 East_Scandinavian
0.03534975 Northern_French
0.03593953 English
0.03723847 Celto-Germanic
0.03810820 Celtic_England
0.03941107 West_Scandinavian
0.03973180 Celtic
0.04612114 Balkan
0.04622626 East_Slavic
0.06059534 Italian_NE
0.06984303 Uralic
0.07329239 Caucasian
0.07581551 Spanish
0.07841250 Baltic
0.08004539 Basque_French
0.08349800 Italian_NW
0.08387659 Basque_Spanish
0.09529038 Finn
0.11723510 East_Med

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.0043% / 0.00434588 | R6P | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.3 Slovakian
21.3 East_Slavic
19.7 Celtic
10.3 West_Scandinavian
8.1 West_Med
6.3 East_Scandinavian

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.0043% / 0.00430560 | R7P | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.7 German
15.3 Baltic
11.7 Slovakian
9.2 East_Scandinavian
7.1 West_Med
7.0 Uralic

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.0038% / 0.00375939 | R7P
30.3 English
17.8 Baltic
16.4 Slovakian
11.6 Balkan
10.6 East_Scandinavian
7.8 West_Med
5.5 Uralic

RyoHazuki
07-29-2024, 02:15 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.7547% / 0.00754671 | R5P
26.4 Northern-Germanic
25.4 West_German
20.6 Celtic
19.6 Basque_French
8.0 Spanish

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.5756% / 0.02575585 | R5P
58.0 West_Scandinavian
24.4 Celtic_England
13.2 Basque_French
4.4 East_Med

Far_away
07-29-2024, 02:18 PM
Target: FarAway_scaled
Distance: 2.2200% / 0.02220025
55.6 Slovakian
36.6 East_Med
7.8 West_Med

Target: FarAway_scaled
Distance: 2.4692% / 0.02469243 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.4 Balkan
12.2 Italian_NE
6.4 East_Med

celticdragongod
07-29-2024, 04:15 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01720436 Celto-Germanic
0.01810836 Celtic_England
0.01905197 English
0.01936057 Northern-Germanic
0.02070451 Celtic
0.02589761 West_Scandinavian
0.02795814 West_German
0.02902554 German
0.03025599 East_Scandinavian
0.03369189 South-German
0.03374442 Northern_French
0.05331174 West_Slavic
0.05821119 Slovakian
0.06945002 Balkan
0.07175285 Italian_NE
0.07443825 East_Slavic
0.07738604 Spanish
0.07744170 Basque_French
0.08030897 Basque_Spanish
0.08943461 Italian_NW
0.08968437 Caucasian
0.09156100 Uralic
0.09926720 Baltic
0.10548292 Finn
0.12806776 East_Med

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4422% / 0.01442218
50.0 Celtic_England
43.4 Celto-Germanic
2.4 East_Slavic
2.4 West_Scandinavian
1.8 Finn

Rędwald
07-29-2024, 04:30 PM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 0.5060% / 0.00505980 | R5P
35.2 West_Scandinavian
30.4 East_Scandinavian
19.2 Basque_French
9.6 Italian_NE
5.6 Arctic

Target: Rędwald
Distance: 1.3230% / 0.01322971 | R5P | ADC: 2x RC
53.6 West_Scandinavian
46.4 Northern_French

Target: Rędwald
Distance: 0.1711% / 0.00171058
39.0 West_Scandinavian
35.8 East_Scandinavian
6.4 Basque_French
5.2 West_Med
5.0 Italian_NE
4.2 Basque_Spanish
1.2 Mayan
0.8 West_Slavic
0.6 Baltic
0.6 Finn
0.4 Amazonian
0.4 South_Indian
0.2 Spanish
0.2 Uralic


Distance to: Rędwald
0.02294660 West_Scandinavian
0.02312826 German
0.02314551 English
0.02444447 Celtic_England
0.02446449 Celtic
0.02544767 Northern_French
0.02659432 Celto-Germanic
0.02664733 South-German
0.02694466 Northern-Germanic
0.02726251 West_German
0.02775016 East_Scandinavian
0.04883925 West_Slavic
0.05287935 Slovakian
0.05979918 Balkan
0.06144316 Italian_NE
0.06670087 Spanish
0.06818846 Basque_French
0.06984192 East_Slavic
0.07125221 Basque_Spanish
0.07930033 Caucasian
0.07989398 Italian_NW
0.08312119 Uralic
0.09926101 Baltic
0.09937631 Finn
0.11836580 East_Med

tk'es
07-29-2024, 05:00 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 8.8081% / 0.08808079 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.0 East_Med
13.2 South_Indian
9.8 Arctic

Balboa
07-29-2024, 05:10 PM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 1.6147% / 0.01614744 | R5P
54.8 West_Med
45.2 East_Med

Target: Balboa_paternal
Distance: 1.1619% / 0.01161891 | R5P
87.8 East_Med
12.2 West_Med

Target: Balboa_maternal
Distance: 1.1795% / 0.01179469 | R5P
96.6 West_Med
3.4 East_Med

ScandinavianCelt
07-29-2024, 05:18 PM
I just received my official 23andMe coordinates so I did an average with the ancestry official coordinates and this is my result at a few of the distances. I don't know if you guys may have noticed but my coordinates the official ones have changed since I originally downloaded them somewhat significantly I think they changed them I downloaded the ancestry today and they were different from the original ones I downloaded I don't understand it anyway here are some of my results now with an official average.

Target: Official_Averaged_G25
Distance: 2.3922% / 0.02392157 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Northern-Germanic

Target: Official_Averaged_G25
Distance: 2.2206% / 0.02220622 | ADC: 1x RC
43.2 Northern-Germanic
30.4 Celtic
26.4 German

Target: Official_Averaged_G25
Distance: 1.6962% / 0.01696158 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.4 Northern-Germanic
29.8 Celtic
10.2 Slovakian
2.6 East_Med
2.2 South_Indian
1.0 Arctic
0.4 Khomani_San
0.4 Papuan

Target: Official_Averaged_G25
Distance: 1.7524% / 0.01752436 | R5P
75.8 Northern-Germanic
11.2 Celtic
5.6 East_Med
4.4 Finn
3.0 South_Indian

Beowulf
07-29-2024, 07:03 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0124% / 0.01235833
28.2 Spanish
19.3 Italian_NW
19.0 Northern_French
10.6 Northern-Germanic
9.3 West_Med
6.9 Slovakian
3.5 Caucasian
2.8 Italian_NE
0.4 South_Indian

--------------------------

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0124% / 0.01243501 | R5P
31.3 Spanish
27.6 Northern_French
24.1 Italian_NW
10.8 Slovakian
6.2 West_Med

Beowulf
07-29-2024, 07:05 PM
What's wrong with the "caucasian" sample


<tbody>
Distance to:
Caucasian


0.01569217
Balkan:Bulgarian


0.02367765
Balkan:Romanian


0.02864201
Balkan:Albanian


0.03203205
Balkan:Serbian


0.03751108
Greece_Cyprus:Greek


0.04093783
Italy:Italian_North


0.04836324
Italy:Italian_Central


0.05299013
Anatolia:Turkish_West


0.05337829
Balkan:Croatian


0.05739672
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Austrian


0.05750337
Balkan:Slovenian


0.05842975
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Swiss_German


0.05881218
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi


0.05946326
Carpathian_Basin:Hungarian


0.06077698
France:French_Central


0.06217288
France:French_North


0.06453348
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_East


0.06491856
Iberian_Penninsula:Portuguese


0.06544764
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_West


0.06688294
Italy:Italian_South


0.06724099
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_Central


0.06781773
Mediterranean_Islander:Maltese


0.07020046
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:German


0.07467598
Central_Europe:Czech


0.07684859
East_Europe:Ukrainian_West



</tbody>

ScandinavianCelt
07-29-2024, 07:13 PM
What's wrong with the "caucasian" sample


<tbody>
Distance to:
Caucasian


0.01569217
Balkan:Bulgarian


0.02367765
Balkan:Romanian


0.02864201
Balkan:Albanian


0.03203205
Balkan:Serbian


0.03751108
Greece_Cyprus:Greek


0.04093783
Italy:Italian_North


0.04836324
Italy:Italian_Central


0.05299013
Anatolia:Turkish_West


0.05337829
Balkan:Croatian


0.05739672
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Austrian


0.05750337
Balkan:Slovenian


0.05842975
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Swiss_German


0.05881218
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi


0.05946326
Carpathian_Basin:Hungarian


0.06077698
France:French_Central


0.06217288
France:French_North


0.06453348
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_East


0.06491856
Iberian_Penninsula:Portuguese


0.06544764
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_West


0.06688294
Italy:Italian_South


0.06724099
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_Central


0.06781773
Mediterranean_Islander:Maltese


0.07020046
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:German


0.07467598
Central_Europe:Czech


0.07684859
East_Europe:Ukrainian_West



</tbody>

Ahhh. Thank you. I thought Gagauz was North Caucasus. My bad. This is how Caucasian lines up to Mod Pop Ave Scaled Official. I need a new sample. I will swap in Lezgin.

Distance to: Caucasian
0.00000000 Gagauz
0.01529958 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.01569238 Bulgarian
0.01604635 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.01700695 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.01927307 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.02088245 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.02125171 Macedonian
0.02197928 Torbeši_Polog
0.02296230 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.02309587 Greek_Macedonia
0.02326821 Romanian
0.02388277 Rumelia_East
0.02443158 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02500105 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.02935167 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03018397 Turkish_Thessaly
0.03103941 Albanian
0.03120820 Greek_Thessaly
0.03266764 Serbian
0.03274688 Montenegrin
0.03347380 Greek_Messenia
0.03394167 Patriyot_West_Macedonia
0.03441137 Greek_Arcadia
0.03488087 Greek_Achaea

ScandinavianCelt
07-29-2024, 07:21 PM
UPDATE: Caucasian sample updated based on official Lezgin Mod Pop Ave sample.

Now I get this:

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_IllustrativeDNA_Scaled
Distance: 1.7377% / 0.01737693 | R5P
84.6 Northern-Germanic
5.8 Italian_NW
3.8 Finn
3.0 Caucasian
2.8 South_Indian


Target: SC_Official_Averaged_IllustrativeDNA_Scaled
Distance: 1.6872% / 0.01687169 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.4 Northern-Germanic
28.4 Celtic
11.0 Slovakian
3.0 Caucasian
1.8 South_Indian
0.6 Arctic
0.4 Khomani_San
0.4 Papuan

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_IllustrativeDNA_Scaled
Distance: 1.6816% / 0.01681552
57.6 Northern-Germanic
23.8 Celtic
8.2 Slovakian
2.8 Italian_NW
2.6 Caucasian
2.4 Finn
1.8 South_Indian
0.4 Khomani_San
0.4 Papuan



Thanks Beowulf!

Beowulf
07-29-2024, 07:29 PM
Ahhh. Thank you. I thought Gagauz was North Caucasus. My bad. This is how Caucasian lines up to Mod Pop Ave Scaled Official. I need a new sample. I will swap in Lezgin.

Distance to: Caucasian
0.00000000 Gagauz
0.01529958 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
0.01569238 Bulgarian
0.01604635 Pomak_Danubian_Plain
0.01700695 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.01927307 Pomak_Almopia_Plain
0.02088245 Pomak_Tikves_Plain
0.02125171 Macedonian
0.02197928 Torbeši_Polog
0.02296230 Turkish_North_Macedonia
0.02309587 Greek_Macedonia
0.02326821 Romanian
0.02388277 Rumelia_East
0.02443158 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02500105 Turkish_West_Macedonia
0.02935167 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03018397 Turkish_Thessaly
0.03103941 Albanian
0.03120820 Greek_Thessaly
0.03266764 Serbian
0.03274688 Montenegrin
0.03347380 Greek_Messenia
0.03394167 Patriyot_West_Macedonia
0.03441137 Greek_Arcadia
0.03488087 Greek_Achaea


Ahhh i see, it's okay don't worry, yeah Gagauzs are quite similar to Bulgarians usually as far as i know.

Athalafuns
07-29-2024, 07:29 PM
UPDATE: Caucasian sample updated based on official Lezgin Mod Pop Ave sample.
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.9001% / 0.01900134 | R5P
90.6 Spanish
4.6 Caucasian
4.0 West_German
0.8 East_Scandinavian

ScandinavianCelt
07-29-2024, 07:45 PM
Ahhh i see, it's okay don't worry, yeah Gagauzs are quite similar to Bulgarians usually as far as i know.

How do your parents score at 2x? My Phased but merged data on my parents yields this (I believe Parent 1 is Mom, Dad #2)

Target: Parent.1
Distance: 1.6697% / 0.01669695 | ADC: 2x RC
54.4 East_Scandinavian
45.6 German

Target: Parent.2
Distance: 1.6590% / 0.01659040 | ADC: 2x RC
57.8 Celtic
42.2 West_Scandinavian

Beowulf
07-29-2024, 07:48 PM
How do your parents score at 2x? My Phased but merged data on my parents yields this (I believe Parent 1 is Mom, Dad #2)

Target: Parent.1
Distance: 1.6697% / 0.01669695 | ADC: 2x RC
54.4 East_Scandinavian
45.6 German

Target: Parent.2
Distance: 1.6590% / 0.01659040 | ADC: 2x RC
57.8 Celtic
42.2 West_Scandinavian

Target: Mama_Scaled
Distance: 0.0222% / 0.02217596 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Northern_French


Target: Papa_Scaled
Distance: 0.0230% / 0.02299263 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Spanish

ScandinavianCelt
07-29-2024, 07:53 PM
Target: Mama_Scaled
Distance: 0.0222% / 0.02217596 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Northern_French


Target: Papa_Scaled
Distance: 0.0230% / 0.02299263 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Spanish

Cool. Thanks

gixajo
07-29-2024, 08:23 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.6210% / 0.01621004 | R5P
75.6 Spanish
18.2 Basque_French
3.8 Italian_NW
1.6 Baltic
0.8 West_Med

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.9218% / 0.01921763 | R5P
79.2 Spanish
12.8 Basque_French
8.0 Celtic

Figaro
07-29-2024, 08:24 PM
Target: CordedFather
Distance: 1.5577% / 0.01557738 | R5P
33.2 West_Scandinavian
32.2 Celtic_England
16.6 Italian_NE
13.8 Baltic
4.2 East_Med

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369136 | R5P
35.2 West_German
26.6 Italian_NE
15.6 Baltic
11.4 East_Slavic
11.2 Uralic

gixajo
07-29-2024, 08:24 PM
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.0312% / 0.02031204 | R5P
76.4 Spanish
12.4 West_Med
11.2 Italian_NW


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.8230% / 0.01823031 | R5P
47.4 Spanish
40.2 Basque_French
11.2 West_Scandinavian
1.2 Italian_NW

Target: gixajo_enana(scaled_original)
Distance: 2.6788% / 0.02678780 | R5P
46.8 Basque_Spanish
28.2 West_Med
17.4 Northern-Germanic
7.6 Slovakian

Figaro
07-29-2024, 08:27 PM
My friend of Brit Isles/Irish and Swiss ancestry.

Target: CordedFriend
Distance: 2.6746% / 0.02674575 | R5P
62.0 Celto-Germanic
28.6 Italian_NE
5.2 Italian_NW
3.2 West_Med
1.0 Northern-Germanic

vader
07-29-2024, 09:03 PM
Target: Me+
Distance: 3.1518% / 0.03151819 | R5P
77.2 Spanish
11.6 Basque_French
7.2 East_Med
2.2 Khomani_San
1.8 Finn

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.4365% / 0.02436479 | R5P
51.8 Mayan
30.0 Spanish
12.6 West_Med
3.2 Khomani_San
2.4 South_Indian

Figaro
07-30-2024, 12:41 AM
What populations represent the "Uralic" here?

Svevlad
08-02-2024, 05:26 PM
Ah, the legendary Rumelia_East, that nobody knows what actually is seemingly. Would Davidski really keep it named that if it was just southern Bulgarian?

ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 06:11 PM
What populations represent the "Uralic" here?

I believe Mordvins-- Erzya, Moksha, Mordovian.

ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 06:14 PM
Ah, the legendary Rumelia_East, that nobody knows what actually is seemingly. Would Davidski really keep it named that if it was just southern Bulgarian?


Sorry, but what are you saying?

ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 06:37 PM
I'm now not just using official Ancestry data but, rather, comparing my MergedRSID to the Averaged_Official:

Target: SC_MergedRSID_DNAGenics_Scaled
Distance: 1.0366% / 0.01036632 | R5P
51.0 East_Scandinavian
31.8 Celtic
7.8 Basque_French
6.2 Caucasian
3.2 Arctic

Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.7377% / 0.01737689 | R5P
84.8 Northern-Germanic
5.6 Italian_NW
3.6 Finn
3.2 Caucasian
2.8 South_Indian


for good measure, my new official 23andMe coords give me this:

Target: SC_23andMe_Official_Scaled
Distance: 2.1962% / 0.02196151 | R5P
49.2 Northern-Germanic
26.2 Celtic
18.4 Slovakian
3.2 Caucasian
3.0 South_Indian



All these different potentials is a bit dizzying.

Xavier727
08-02-2024, 07:12 PM
Target: scaled
Distance: 2.0313% / 0.02031336
77.6 Northern-Germanic
7.4 Basque_Spanish
7.4 Slovakian
4.0 Caucasian
1.8 Celto-Germanic
1.6 Amerindian_North
0.2 Arctic


Target: scaled
Distance: 2.0582% / 0.02058205 | R5P
75.6 Northern-Germanic
11.6 Northern_French
5.2 Arctic
4.6 Basque_Spanish
3.0 Caucasian

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.0489% / 0.02048936 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.6 Northern-Germanic
9.0 Basque_Spanish
4.8 Arctic
4.4 Slovakian
4.2 Caucasian

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.0758% / 0.02075770 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.4 Northern-Germanic
27.8 Northern_French
5.8 Arctic

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.3261% / 0.02326078 | R5P | ADC: 1x RC
57.0 Celtic
26.0 Slovakian
17.0 Celto-Germanic


Target: scaled
Distance: 2.5072% / 0.02507219 | R5P | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Northern-Germanic

vader
08-02-2024, 08:36 PM
Target: Me+
Distance: 3.1518% / 0.03151819 | R5P
77.2 Spanish
11.6 Basque_French
7.2 East_Med
2.2 Khomani_San
1.8 Finn

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.4365% / 0.02436479 | R5P
51.8 Mayan
30.0 Spanish
12.6 West_Med
3.2 Khomani_San
2.4 South_Indian

My better coords:

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 1.5481% / 0.01548072 | R5P
77.0 Spanish
9.4 West_Med
6.6 East_Med
5.2 Finn
1.8 Khomani_San

Figaro
08-02-2024, 09:07 PM
I believe Mordvins-- Erzya, Moksha, Mordovian.

Makes me wonder how my mother scores as much of it as we do- her Eastern European ancestry are ethnically Polish Belarusians, an area with no Finno-Ugric activity. I can't go far back Many generations down that side though, maybe there's an ethnic Russian in the woodpile. I have noticed that she gets multiple matches from NW Russia. Several people on this thread score a little "Finn", which I would guess in most instances is not legitimate, but maybe just speaking to excess HG or something.Uralic on the other hand is more selective, so could be speaking to something actually Siberian.

ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 10:11 PM
Makes me wonder how my mother scores as much of it as we do- her Eastern European ancestry are ethnically Polish Belarusians, an area with no Finno-Ugric activity. I can't go far back Many generations down that side though, maybe there's an ethnic Russian in the woodpile. I have noticed that she gets multiple matches from NW Russia. Several people on this thread score a little "Finn", which I would guess in most instances is not legitimate, but maybe just speaking to excess HG or something.Uralic on the other hand is more selective, so could be speaking to something actually Siberian.

It may simply relate to something you/she has somewhere east of Europe but the calculator samples aren't enough to show it.

If you add in some other known groups outside of Europe but to the east, do you still show Uralic?

You could try the Russia8 calc to see what % of Uralic you and your Mom get.

Pedro Ruben
08-02-2024, 10:34 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.9006% / 0.02900588
79.0 Spanish
10.4 East_Med
6.6 West_Scandinavian
3.0 Khomani_San
0.8 Amerindian_North
0.2 Mayan

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.9287% / 0.02928688 | R5P
79.0 Spanish
10.4 East_Med
5.8 West_Scandinavian
3.0 Khomani_San
1.8 Arctic

ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 01:30 AM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.9006% / 0.02900588
79.0 Spanish
10.4 East_Med
6.6 West_Scandinavian
3.0 Khomani_San
0.8 Amerindian_North
0.2 Mayan

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.9287% / 0.02928688 | R5P
79.0 Spanish
10.4 East_Med
5.8 West_Scandinavian
3.0 Khomani_San
1.8 Arctic

Do me a favor, although they are ancient samples so it may not work completely, could you add in ancient Guanche scaled individuals and see if your Americas vanish?

Wend-Kruzek
08-03-2024, 03:36 PM
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.02507516 West_Slavic
0.03257768 West_German
0.03399295 South-German
0.03418576 Slovakian
0.03618823 East_Slavic
0.03809925 German
0.04085045 East_Scandinavian
0.04631998 Northern-Germanic
0.04780565 West_Scandinavian
0.05121655 Celto-Germanic
0.05148920 Balkan
0.05202247 English
0.05282785 Northern_French
0.05325776 Celtic
0.05401404 Celtic_England
0.06288626 Uralic
0.07006008 Baltic
0.07226150 Italian_NE
0.09035300 Spanish
0.09250792 Finn
0.09371633 Basque_French
0.09382540 Italian_NW
0.09915665 Basque_Spanish
0.12215851 East_Med
0.14693566 Caucasian


Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.6776% / 0.01677627 | R5P
58.4 East_Slavic
17.6 West_Scandinavian
12.4 Basque_French
7.8 Balkan
3.8 Caucasian

:blink:

Svevlad
08-06-2024, 09:38 AM
Sorry, but what are you saying?

Apart from the Rumelian Turks, nobody calls themselves Rumelians anymore - and East Rumelia existed only in the 19th century, so the Rumelia_East population is either not named correctly, being southern Bulgarians, or is something else

ScandinavianCelt
08-06-2024, 12:57 PM
Apart from the Rumelian Turks, nobody calls themselves Rumelians anymore - and East Rumelia existed only in the 19th century, so the Rumelia_East population is either not named correctly, being southern Bulgarians, or is something else

Where is this "Rumelia_East" sample you speak of? Did you comment on the wrong thread by mistake?

Dušan
08-06-2024, 02:25 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.2887% / 0.02288728 | R5P
49.2 East_Slavic
23.8 Balkan
16.8 East_Med
10.2 West_Med

noricum
08-07-2024, 05:44 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.9777% / 0.01977701
36.6 Balkan
31.6 West_Scandinavian
23.0 Baltic
6.8 West_Med
2.0 Basque_French


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.9795% / 0.01979531 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.8 Balkan
25.2 West_Scandinavian
20.6 Baltic
11.4 Basque_French


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.1770% / 0.02177040 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.6 Balkan
36.2 West_Scandinavian
21.2 East_Slavic


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.5989% / 0.02598948 | ADC: 1x RC
68.4 South-German
31.6 West_Slavic


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.9771% / 0.01977069 | R5P
37.8 Balkan
30.2 West_Scandinavian
22.6 Baltic
5.4 West_Med
4.0 Basque_French


Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.9795% / 0.01979531 | R4P
42.8 Balkan
25.2 West_Scandinavian
20.6 Baltic
11.4 Basque_French

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0921% / 0.02092085 | R3P
49.6 Balkan
35.2 West_Scandinavian
15.2 Baltic

Eurafricanid
08-07-2024, 06:38 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.4798% / 0.01479834 | R5P
40.2 Basque_Spanish
35.8 East_Med
16.8 Basque_French
5.4 Spanish
1.8 Caucasian



Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.7182% / 0.01718206 | R5P | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.4 Spanish
20.6 East_Med




No Basque, No ADC

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.7066% / 0.01706629 | R5P
66.2 Spanish
20.4 East_Med
8.4 Northern_French
5.0 West_Med

Cernunnos
08-07-2024, 06:41 PM
Target: Cernunnos23andme_scaled
Distance: 2.0728% / 0.02072802
87.2 Spanish
5.2 Basque_Spanish
3.6 West_Med
2.0 Finn
1.4 South_Indian
0.6 Khomani_San

Distance to: Cernunnos23andme_scaled
0.02191739 Spanish
0.03878507 Basque_Spanish
0.04198548 Basque_French
0.04742733 Italian_NE
0.04932215 Italian_NW
0.05745924 Northern_French
0.06910511 German
0.07009674 South-German
0.07045104 Balkan
0.07144832 Celtic_England
0.07356668 English
0.07911531 Celtic
0.08152174 West_German
0.08239643 Celto-Germanic
0.08386105 Northern-Germanic
0.08632612 West_Scandinavian
0.09035091 East_Med
0.09087506 East_Scandinavian
0.09290091 West_Med
0.09641120 West_Slavic
0.09682255 Slovakian
0.11883995 East_Slavic
0.13401098 Uralic
0.15161061 Baltic
0.15219765 Finn

alexmegas777
08-08-2024, 10:45 AM
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.02822745 Italian_NE
0.02866783 Balkan
0.04053755 Italian_NW
0.05316196 South-German
0.05416639 Northern_French
0.05523582 Spanish
0.05626976 German
0.06566743 East_Med
0.06843675 West_German
0.07068506 Slovakian
0.07090431 West_Slavic
0.07208252 Celtic_England
0.07214827 English
0.07629075 Basque_French
0.07681726 Celtic
0.07729920 Celto-Germanic
0.07770014 Basque_Spanish
0.07810293 Northern-Germanic
0.07959590 East_Scandinavian
0.08316268 West_Scandinavian
0.08976958 East_Slavic
0.10876435 Uralic
0.11870228 West_Med
0.12775125 Baltic
0.13116546 Caucasian


Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.1420% / 0.02142025 | R5P
35.0 Balkan
33.2 Italian_NW
16.2 East_Slavic
11.6 East_Med
4.0 West_Med

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.1122% / 0.02112160 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.6 Balkan
36.6 Italian_NW
0.8 Mayan

ScandinavianCelt
02-07-2025, 08:08 PM
Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 2.1962% / 0.02196151 | R5P
49.2 Northern-Germanic
26.2 Celtic
18.4 Slovakian
3.2 Caucasian
3.0 South_Indian

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ancestry_Scaled
Distance: 1.4074% / 0.01407413 | R5P
83.0 Northern-Germanic
7.4 Spanish
4.0 Caucasian
3.4 Finn
2.2 South_Indian

Target: SC_PreUpdate_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.7377% / 0.01737689 | R5P
84.8 Northern-Germanic
5.6 Italian_NW
3.6 Finn
3.2 Caucasian
2.8 South_Indian

I forgot to ask the question the question is which one is the most accurate would you think

Gannicus
02-08-2025, 12:48 AM
Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0208% / 0.02077351 | R5P
53.7 English
24.3 Celto-Germanic
16.2 Basque_Spanish
3.4 Spanish
2.4 Caucasian

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0205% / 0.02054747 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.2 English
22.2 Northern_French
17.8 Celtic_England
15.2 Celto-Germanic
12.0 Basque_Spanish
0.6 Amazonian


Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0215% / 0.02146421 | ADC: 2x RC
55.0 Celtic_England
45.0 Northern_French

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02118798 83.80% English + 16.20% Spanish
0.02146421 55.00% Celtic_England + 45.00% Northern_French
0.02157607 53.80% English + 46.20% Northern_French
0.02159584 14.60% Basque_Spanish + 85.40% English
0.02182532 93.60% English + 6.40% West_Med
0.02183009 86.20% Celtic_England + 13.80% Spanish
0.02200358 88.60% English + 11.40% Italian_NW
0.02210239 89.60% Celtic_England + 10.40% Italian_NW
0.02223812 11.80% Basque_Spanish + 88.20% Celtic_England
0.02233357 12.60% Basque_French + 87.40% English
0.02235185 26.80% Basque_Spanish + 73.20% Celto-Germanic
0.02240568 95.00% Celtic_England + 5.00% West_Med
0.02243034 36.40% Celtic + 63.60% Northern_French
0.02249051 94.00% Celtic_England + 6.00% East_Med
0.02254601 76.20% Celtic + 23.80% Spanish
0.02255316 31.40% Celto-Germanic + 68.60% Northern_French
0.02263331 89.20% Celtic_England + 10.80% Italian_NE
0.02266992 6.20% East_Med + 93.80% English
0.02269618 88.40% English + 11.60% Italian_NE
0.02271072 72.40% Celto-Germanic + 27.60% Spanish
0.02285573 9.20% Basque_French + 90.80% Celtic_England
0.02291085 72.00% Northern_French + 28.00% Northern-Germanic
0.02295255 70.60% Northern-Germanic + 29.40% Spanish
0.02304592 99.20% Celtic_England + 0.80% Mayan
0.02305522 0.80% Amazonian + 99.20% Celtic_England