View Full Version : Reverse Yamnaya-WHG-EEF modeling
ScandinavianCelt
08-01-2024, 10:22 PM
This is just for fun, as I was trying to see where I landed between for the Yamnaya, but included it for WHG & EEF also.
Which two groups do you plot between for each of the three groups: Yamnaya-WHG-EEF?
Put your scaled coordinates into the SOURCE with this group:
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Then use these 3 groups as your TARGET:
WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0 .170836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.03530 6,0.083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Run the DISTANCE function for each Target group to see where your coordinates fall.
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You can label yourself in this way if you want to, or just share the distances:
My results based on IllustrativeDNA averaged coordinates for Ancestry & 23andMe data:
Samara_EBA_Yamnaya: Swedish-Estonia
WHG: Cornwall-Brittany
EEF: Irish-Danish
Yamnaya: (My 23andMe plots me between Estonia & Finnish_Southwest @.14075)
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14145541 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
WHG:
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33265485 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
EEF:
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.21870658 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
Note: If your main groups are not listed in my linked SOURCE file, you will have to add them. The European groups are in there, with some others.
Have a nice day.
Note2: I added all Yamnaya averages below if you want to include them.
Beowulf
08-01-2024, 10:27 PM
<tbody>
Distance to:
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818
Finnish_East
0.12862308
Finnish_Central
0.12970263
Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791
Finnish_North
0.13611500
Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956
Estonia
0.14173379
Swedish
0.14467663
Latvia
0.14528423
Icelandic
0.14538280
Norwegian
0.14612929
Lithuania
0.14743516
Danish
0.14835555
Polish
0.14868644
Irish
0.14870102
Slovakia
0.14977183
German_Hamburg
0.15090875
Scottish
0.15293987
Dutch
0.15303568
Czech_Republic
0.15599082
English
0.15648903
Welsh
0.15762537
Hungarian
0.15944160
English_Cornwall
0.16106085
French_Brittany
0.16107980
Austrian
0.16164185
Austria
0.16224942
Croatian
0.16341925
Slovenia
0.16365252
French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240
Bosnia
0.16515663
BelgianA
0.16695508
Moldovan
0.16857903
BelgianB
0.17169356
French_Nord
0.17549494
Montenegro
0.17646282
BelgianC
0.17647803
Serbian
0.18352036
Bulgarian
0.18783293
Switzerland
0.19076132
France
0.19269731
Beowulf_Scaled :)
0.19314444
North_Macedonia
0.19956539
Turkey
0.20331603
Albania
0.20885650
Spain
0.21022344
Portugal
0.21089939
Iran
0.21391656
Italy
0.21770330
Greece
0.22716877
Israel
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439
Italy
0.13329670
Israel
0.13391565
Greece
0.14164752
Albania
0.14465894
Portugal
0.14729659
Spain
0.15325794
North_Macedonia
0.15966138
Beowulf_Scaled :)
0.16008698
Switzerland
0.16350354
Bulgarian
0.16510169
Egypt
0.16626438
France
0.16815761
Syrian
0.17492636
Serbian
0.17502871
Montenegro
0.17999985
Armenia
0.18025409
BelgianC
0.18324608
French_Nord
0.18480609
Moldovan
0.18694666
BelgianB
0.18972665
Bosnia
0.18986109
Turkey
0.19251653
French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928
BelgianA
0.19426570
Austrian
0.19539943
Croatian
0.19544588
Austria
0.19586141
Slovenia
0.20030526
Hungarian
0.20151698
French_Brittany
0.20681933
English_Cornwall
0.20782130
Welsh
0.20904585
English
0.20973098
Dutch
0.21020987
Czech_Republic
0.21413518
Scottish
0.21436656
German_Hamburg
0.21710515
Morocco
0.21767983
Irish
0.22035914
Danish
0.22306016
Slovakia
0.22370329
Norwegian
0.22603267
Icelandic
0.22641867
Iran
0.22981886
Polish
0.22982917
Swedish
0.24597829
Algeria
0.25659852
Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327
Lithuania
0.26419752
Finnish_Southeast
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883
Latvia
0.30782646
Estonia
0.31014990
Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697
Lithuania
0.31175078
Finnish_East
0.31448729
Finnish_Central
0.31562486
Finnish_North
0.31604257
Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178
Swedish
0.32214799
Icelandic
0.32330238
Norwegian
0.32363866
Polish
0.32515293
Danish
0.32701118
Slovakia
0.32754789
German_Hamburg
0.33031177
Welsh
0.33046317
Irish
0.33058138
Scottish
0.33072675
English
0.33127943
Dutch
0.33145125
English_Cornwall
0.33271964
French_Brittany
0.33306283
Czech_Republic
0.33920783
BelgianA
0.33954359
Austrian
0.34007870
Austria
0.34008415
Hungarian
0.34140383
BelgianB
0.34153550
Slovenia
0.34207722
French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478
French_Nord
0.34259920
BelgianC
0.34263633
France
0.34361742
Croatian
0.35038755
Spain
0.35299108
Beowulf_Scaled :)
0.35323160
Bosnia
0.35712930
Moldovan
0.35775467
Portugal
0.35847773
Switzerland
0.36023531
Serbian
0.36025473
Montenegro
0.37153971
Bulgarian
0.38147388
North_Macedonia
0.38898706
Albania
0.39275476
Italy
0.41353791
Greece
0.41949450
Israel
0.43139061
Turkey
0.45857621
Morocco
</tbody>
gixajo
08-01-2024, 10:37 PM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.34555255 gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15025885 gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.20982466 gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
ScandinavianCelt
08-01-2024, 10:48 PM
If you want to get more accuracy to all the Yamnaya groups, you can check where you plot to each of the averages:
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya,0.123498,0.1051075,0.039598,0 .0812345,-0.005078,0.0368135,0.0092825,0.0043845,-0.0416205,-0.0496595,0.0001625,-0.002248,0.001338,-0.016033,0.0215115,0.008486,-0.009844,-0.002407,0.0022,0.0080665,-0.004118,-0.010634,0.009798,0.0098205,0.005029
Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya_o,0.114961,0.120848,0.033941, 0.040052,0.003693,0.015618,0.003525,0.002538,-0.020657,-0.016948,0.00341,0.003897,-0.012042,0.008395,0.014522,-0.011005,-0.009127,0.00228,0.002514,-0.004627,0.007612,0.00779,0.000986,0.003856,-0.001796
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya,0.1202727,0.169255 ,0.0275297,-0.057494,0.0709873,-0.0271453,-0.0028983,-0.0004613,0.0411773,0.076539,0.0009203,0.0109403,-0.01997,0.0012387,-0.0292707,0.0128613,0.0254247,0.003167,0.0108937,-0.0072537,-0.00653,0.0079137,-0.0068197,-0.0115277,0.0003993
Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG,0.120652,0.081242,0.0399 75,0.10756,-0.020927,0.047411,-0.00282,-0.00923,-0.054608,-0.068339,-0.00682,-0.00045,-0.003122,-0.026699,0.036509,0.015248,0.004042,-0.005828,-0.011816,0.006128,-0.005865,-0.00136,0.008258,0.028317,-0.013771
Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1160993,0.0805653,0. 028661,0.1088517,-0.0370323,0.040718,0.0054053,-0.005769,-0.06013,-0.073502,-0.0008663,-0.006794,-0.0014867,-0.0231667,0.033342,0.0069833,-0.0125167,-0.002534,-0.0077517,0.003835,0.000416,0.0074607,0.0072717,0. 012652,-0.0059077
Russia_EBA_Yamnaya_o,0.10927,0.078196,0.018479,0.0 99807,-0.053856,0.038208,-0.003055,-0.017307,-0.073015,-0.085469,0.000325,-0.005545,-0.004311,-0.028488,0.038545,0.010475,0.003781,-0.005574,-0.004399,0.000375,-0.013975,-0.00136,-0.005669,0.010001,-0.003832
Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG,0.1149612,0.0907884 ,0.0470648,0.1136324,-0.0290516,0.04122,0.004418,-0.0036458,-0.0538714,-0.0756278,-0.000682,0.0007494,-0.0022298,-0.0237536,0.0281486,0.0124634,0.002008,-0.0013936,0,0.01023,-0.0047666,-0.0015084,0.014987,0.0215934,-0.0040954
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya,0.127482,0.097491,0.043746,0.08 1719,-0.013541,0.039602,0.028671,0.002077,-0.036405,-0.066698,-0.000487,-0.001948,-0.007582,-0.017065,0.030673,0.029435,0.009518,-0.006208,-0.008296,0.014257,-0.011355,-0.014096,0.009983,0.032896,-0.010418
Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1200835,0.0913975,0.04714,0. 1077215,-0.040469,0.0403,0.00564,0.0074995,-0.0572665,-0.078453,-0.0010555,0.0072685,0.005575,-0.0164455,0.021376,0.0088835,-0.008149,-0.0002535,0.00132,0.0098795,-0.0064885,0.010387,0.006039,0.020304,-0.0045505
Ukraine_Ozera_EBA_Yamnaya_o,0.113823,0.102568,-0.003394,0.041344,-0.02739,0.014502,0.005875,0.003231,-0.045813,-0.03991,0.00065,0.005245,-0.001338,-0.010597,0.018051,0.012463,0.009648,-0.002914,-0.006034,0.007504,-0.003868,0.003957,-0.004437,0.001205,0.000838
This is how my averaged coords plot to all of these, in same above order: (23andMe plots slightly closer to almost all of them)
Finnish_Central-Finnish_Southwest
Hungarian-Austrian
Irish-Danish
Finnish_Southwest-Swedish
Finnish_Southwest-Swedish
Finnish_North-Finnish_Southwest
Estonia_Sweden
Estonia-Sweden
Finnish_East-Sweden
Lithuania-Sweden
Iran-Bosnia
Not that anyone cares, but I ran the top 40 distances for each, so here are the results:
Distance to: Ukraine_Ozera_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.10206651 Turkey
0.10813895 Moldovan
0.11189845 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.11191296 Bulgarian
0.11194573 Bosnia
0.11300506 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.11339320 Iran
0.11517041 Montenegro
0.11617356 Hungarian
0.11641777 Croatian
0.11682802 Serbian
0.11703039 Austrian
0.11838809 North_Macedonia
0.11875876 French_Seine-Maritime
0.11887871 Austria
0.11926292 Slovenia
0.11952968 Czech_Republic
0.12200324 German_Hamburg
0.12244761 Dutch
0.12274851 Slovakia
0.12307769 BelgianB
0.12378215 Irish
0.12424274 Scottish
0.12439089 BelgianA
0.12487932 Albania
0.12498312 French_Nord
0.12544176 Danish
0.12583986 Welsh
0.12613134 Norwegian
0.12616401 Swedish
0.12617581 Switzerland
0.12632307 French_Brittany
0.12637624 English
0.12715569 Icelandic
0.12758259 Greece
0.12758684 Polish
0.12949892 English_Cornwall
0.13009438 BelgianC
0.13264756 Armenia
0.13298322 Italy
Distance to: Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12837270 Finnish_Central
0.12846698 Finnish_East
0.13055208 Finnish_North
0.13195595 Finnish_Southeast
0.13490202 Finnish_Southwest
0.14040065 Estonia
0.14349278 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.14376048 Latvia
0.14451334 Swedish
0.14453230 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.14473791 Lithuania
0.14704553 Polish
0.14833357 Slovakia
0.14885635 Icelandic
0.14913390 Norwegian
0.15067868 Danish
0.15106649 German_Hamburg
0.15268350 Czech_Republic
0.15303673 Irish
0.15425459 Scottish
0.15558397 Dutch
0.15630337 Hungarian
0.15886056 English
0.15969357 Welsh
0.16058685 Croatian
0.16098909 Austrian
0.16140568 Slovenia
0.16192854 Austria
0.16230105 English_Cornwall
0.16252348 Bosnia
0.16368793 Moldovan
0.16433910 French_Brittany
0.16557983 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16648279 BelgianA
0.17050392 BelgianB
0.17297402 Montenegro
0.17306933 French_Nord
0.17359993 Serbian
0.17786265 BelgianC
0.18033724 Bulgarian
Distance to: Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
0.10962278 Finnish_Southeast
0.11286751 Finnish_Central
0.11334623 Finnish_East
0.11572785 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.11670355 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.11817687 Swedish
0.12128521 Finnish_Southwest
0.12137345 Finnish_North
0.12141959 Norwegian
0.12254167 Danish
0.12293905 Icelandic
0.12318371 Slovakia
0.12414604 German_Hamburg
0.12423547 Estonia
0.12432519 Irish
0.12519153 Polish
0.12665609 Scottish
0.12667472 Dutch
0.12682732 Czech_Republic
0.12884671 Lithuania
0.12887146 Latvia
0.13056798 Hungarian
0.13088689 English
0.13116272 Welsh
0.13263409 Austrian
0.13318533 Austria
0.13442568 English_Cornwall
0.13449719 Croatian
0.13491909 French_Brittany
0.13630162 Slovenia
0.13640537 Bosnia
0.13708099 French_Seine-Maritime
0.13871346 Moldovan
0.13877699 BelgianA
0.14065317 BelgianB
0.14424327 French_Nord
0.14574441 Montenegro
0.14734071 Serbian
0.14848230 BelgianC
0.15449902 Bulgarian
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14075086 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14145541 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
Distance to: Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
0.12523753 Finnish_East
0.12661854 Finnish_Central
0.12788371 Finnish_Southeast
0.13058158 Finnish_North
0.13442448 Finnish_Southwest
0.13862422 Estonia
0.13918587 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.13998145 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.14084672 Swedish
0.14223477 Latvia
0.14356238 Lithuania
0.14488389 Norwegian
0.14523630 Icelandic
0.14582011 Polish
0.14615624 Slovakia
0.14671965 Danish
0.14827508 German_Hamburg
0.14868074 Irish
0.15053982 Scottish
0.15098602 Czech_Republic
0.15197017 Dutch
0.15509811 Hungarian
0.15559228 English
0.15609459 Welsh
0.15889424 English_Cornwall
0.15913515 Austrian
0.15967155 Croatian
0.16042426 Austria
0.16053581 French_Brittany
0.16077058 Slovenia
0.16214310 Bosnia
0.16348256 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16409467 Moldovan
0.16415437 BelgianA
0.16752276 BelgianB
0.17045990 French_Nord
0.17267909 Montenegro
0.17359230 Serbian
0.17516638 BelgianC
0.18079379 Bulgarian
Distance to: Russia_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.16526010 Finnish_East
0.16627638 Finnish_Central
0.16804093 Finnish_Southeast
0.16887310 Finnish_North
0.17178513 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.17241883 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.17249347 Finnish_Southwest
0.17734792 Swedish
0.17952714 Estonia
0.17954702 Norwegian
0.17990458 Slovakia
0.17993617 Icelandic
0.18029970 Irish
0.18058695 Polish
0.18102651 Danish
0.18141798 German_Hamburg
0.18204164 Scottish
0.18260506 Czech_Republic
0.18294422 Latvia
0.18324760 Lithuania
0.18358293 Dutch
0.18404171 Hungarian
0.18658117 Moldovan
0.18669771 English
0.18685810 Croatian
0.18710661 Welsh
0.18721001 Austrian
0.18725702 Bosnia
0.18852490 Slovenia
0.18862714 Austria
0.18912671 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19001169 French_Brittany
0.19023258 English_Cornwall
0.19132606 Turkey
0.19159843 Iran
0.19216085 BelgianA
0.19425254 BelgianB
0.19530004 Montenegro
0.19622247 Serbian
0.19667454 French_Nord
Distance to: Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya
0.13766207 Finnish_Central
0.13886636 Finnish_East
0.13943188 Finnish_North
0.14176802 Finnish_Southeast
0.14320114 Finnish_Southwest
0.14864282 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.14933205 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.15169471 Swedish
0.15213023 Estonia
0.15464627 Icelandic
0.15493584 Norwegian
0.15630815 Latvia
0.15663798 Polish
0.15685124 Danish
0.15695943 Irish
0.15709958 Lithuania
0.15748936 Slovakia
0.15770327 German_Hamburg
0.15873186 Scottish
0.15996442 Czech_Republic
0.16071817 Dutch
0.16281273 Hungarian
0.16374900 English
0.16440850 Welsh
0.16687642 Austrian
0.16710166 Croatian
0.16717240 English_Cornwall
0.16803443 Austria
0.16819715 French_Brittany
0.16845985 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16851997 Slovenia
0.16892274 Moldovan
0.16894720 Bosnia
0.17076248 BelgianA
0.17427984 BelgianB
0.17709085 French_Nord
0.17865872 Montenegro
0.17940237 Serbian
0.18195942 BelgianC
0.18383895 Bulgarian
Distance to: Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
0.12827464 Finnish_East
0.12914901 Finnish_Central
0.12921236 Finnish_Southeast
0.13371205 Finnish_North
0.13713299 Finnish_Southwest
0.13870594 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.13927953 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.14075767 Swedish
0.14348372 Estonia
0.14360226 Norwegian
0.14390853 Icelandic
0.14588349 Danish
0.14618274 Irish
0.14811026 Slovakia
0.14831064 Latvia
0.14847465 German_Hamburg
0.14855954 Scottish
0.14880454 Polish
0.14905803 Lithuania
0.15048528 Dutch
0.15213540 Czech_Republic
0.15395034 English
0.15447873 Welsh
0.15584210 Hungarian
0.15733925 English_Cornwall
0.15824502 French_Brittany
0.15898593 Austrian
0.15989953 Austria
0.16047684 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16052157 Croatian
0.16225287 Slovenia
0.16275545 BelgianA
0.16301945 Bosnia
0.16446132 Moldovan
0.16535690 BelgianB
0.16876866 French_Nord
0.17288256 Montenegro
0.17309768 BelgianC
0.17405003 Serbian
0.18028019 Bulgarian
Distance to: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
0.10207403 Italy
0.10439599 Spain
0.10508788 Portugal
0.11112460 Albania
0.11607069 Greece
0.11864392 Switzerland
0.11998447 North_Macedonia
0.12124084 Israel
0.12133797 France
0.12811127 Bulgarian
0.13507709 Montenegro
0.13619065 Serbian
0.13670845 BelgianC
0.13969542 French_Nord
0.14250940 BelgianB
0.14692625 Moldovan
0.14963726 Bosnia
0.14965978 French_Seine-Maritime
0.15068131 Austrian
0.15082446 BelgianA
0.15167064 Austria
0.15417953 Croatian
0.15444964 Slovenia
0.15642763 French_Brittany
0.15808194 Hungarian
0.16246819 English_Cornwall
0.16260544 Welsh
0.16458662 English
0.16462759 Dutch
0.16692268 Czech_Republic
0.16951554 German_Hamburg
0.16983650 Scottish
0.17210044 Syrian
0.17293120 Irish
0.17452287 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.17456579 Danish
0.17529745 Turkey
0.17545337 Egypt
0.17593689 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.17741840 Slovakia
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.05771509 Moldovan
0.05973971 Hungarian
0.05994821 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.06117075 Austrian
0.06119559 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.06155879 Croatian
0.06158091 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06185950 Bosnia
0.06269781 Slovenia
0.06300944 Czech_Republic
0.06342406 German_Hamburg
0.06408667 BelgianA
0.06444940 Austria
0.06547121 Dutch
0.06669029 Montenegro
0.06697239 Scottish
0.06744729 Serbian
0.06806371 BelgianB
0.06837207 French_Nord
0.06838038 English
0.06873009 Welsh
0.06874598 Irish
0.06912874 Danish
0.06995812 French_Brittany
0.07039996 Bulgarian
0.07079568 Norwegian
0.07081148 English_Cornwall
0.07114987 Icelandic
0.07118706 Swedish
0.07300378 BelgianC
0.07376981 Slovakia
0.07611157 Polish
0.07626474 Switzerland
0.07996482 North_Macedonia
0.08374577 France
0.08570798 Finnish_Southwest
0.08774363 Albania
0.09363411 Finnish_Central
0.09681645 Finnish_Southeast
0.09776533 Italy
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.09178890 Finnish_Central
0.09253578 SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
0.09315855 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.09452785 Finnish_Southwest
0.09493470 Finnish_Southeast
0.09507558 Swedish
0.09814358 Finnish_North
0.09859577 Icelandic
0.09882591 Finnish_East
0.09900980 Norwegian
0.09909653 German_Hamburg
0.09917134 Slovakia
0.09918542 Polish
0.09959236 Danish
0.10100439 Czech_Republic
0.10123257 Irish
0.10203985 Estonia
0.10274201 Scottish
0.10359749 Dutch
0.10460399 Hungarian
0.10565790 Lithuania
0.10700986 Latvia
0.10738775 English
0.10762259 Welsh
0.10789663 Austrian
0.10856269 Croatian
0.10896169 Austria
0.10977851 Slovenia
0.11059648 English_Cornwall
0.11130335 Bosnia
0.11173407 French_Brittany
0.11244342 French_Seine-Maritime
0.11297429 Moldovan
0.11347771 BelgianA
0.11764642 BelgianB
0.11997636 French_Nord
0.12161925 Montenegro
0.12240958 Serbian
0.12528581 BelgianC
0.12995015 Bulgarian
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.13659069 PolishL_Mazovia1
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14139669 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14368073 German_West_Prussia
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14671401 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
0.14743516 Danish
0.14822151 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14938203 cass
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31846436 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
0.31887178 Swedish
0.31920090 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
0.32171961 German_West_Prussia
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32267755 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.32329100 cass
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.32826486 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian2
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22284140 cass
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22790119 German_West_Prussia
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.23201373 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian2
0.23381403 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.24212815 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
ScandinavianCelt
08-01-2024, 11:18 PM
You can run your best Yamnaya calc to then break down where you are getting your Yamnaya from, groups-wise. Mine looks like this, with and without outliers:
https://i.postimg.cc/vHn0P2RR/yamnaya2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
The simplified Samara-Barcin-Rochedene gives me:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.2 France_Rochedane
So for modeling purposes, and perhaps just fun, I would be roughly:
53.4% Estonian-Swedish
35.4% Irish-Danish
11.2% Cornwall-Brittany
Gallop
08-01-2024, 11:18 PM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.34687264 Gallop
0.34818682 Father
0.35038755 Spain
0.35053899 brother_scaled
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14383409 brother
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15050934 Father
0.15194826 Gallop
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20866945 Gallop
0.20885650 Spain
0.21016070 Father
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21621488 brother
0.211770330 Greece
vader
08-01-2024, 11:18 PM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35539278 Algarvio_scaled
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14581795 Algarvio_scaled
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21062071 Algarvio_scaled
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
I fit more with Corded than Yamnaya
Distance to: Poland_CordedWare_1.SG
0.04471523 Finnish_Southeast
0.04540522 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
0.04847116 German_West_Prussia
0.05009709 Swedish
0.05137441 Estonia
0.05380722 Slovakia
0.05484237 Polish
0.05521492 cass
0.05577622 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.05750036 Finnish_Central
0.05783437 Lithuania
0.05855963 Finnish_East
0.05905915 Latvia
0.06005459 Norwegian
0.06033994 German_Hamburg
0.06047614 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
0.06084696 Finnish_Southwest
0.06151859 Danish
0.06249295 PolishL_Mazovia1
0.06311751 Icelandic
0.06365841 Czech_Republic
0.06653471 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian2
0.07006843 Dutch
0.07080545 Finnish_North
0.07218232 Hungarian
0.07233443 Scottish
0.07337018 Welsh
0.07340197 Irish
0.07449977 English
0.07564793 Austrian
0.07637330 Austria
0.07707442 Slovenia
0.07718482 English_Cornwall
0.07811400 Croatian
0.07842506 French_Brittany
0.08403945 BelgianA
0.08597022 French_Seine-Maritime
0.08677873 BelgianB
0.08791715 Bosnia
0.08862757 French_Nord
0.09205297 BelgianC
0.09430214 Moldovan
0.09898809 Montenegro
0.09966002 Serbian
0.10315481 France
0.11017663 Switzerland
0.11596066 Bulgarian
0.12196947 Spain
0.12705040 North_Macedonia
0.12844337 Portugal
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.08944483 PolishL_Mazovia1
0.09178890 Finnish_Central
0.09451742 German_West_Prussia
0.09452785 Finnish_Southwest
0.09493470 Finnish_Southeast
0.09507558 Swedish
0.09735160 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
0.09814358 Finnish_North
0.09859577 Icelandic
0.09882591 Finnish_East
0.09900980 Norwegian
0.09909653 German_Hamburg
0.09917134 Slovakia
0.09918542 Polish
0.09924632 cass
0.09959236 Danish
0.10001212 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.10010606 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
0.10100439 Czech_Republic
0.10123257 Irish
0.10203985 Estonia
0.10274201 Scottish
0.10359749 Dutch
0.10460399 Hungarian
0.10565790 Lithuania
ScandinavianCelt
08-01-2024, 11:44 PM
I fit more with Corded than Yamnaya
Distance to: Poland_CordedWare_1.SG
0.04471523 Finnish_Southeast
0.04540522 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
0.04847116 German_West_Prussia
0.05009709 Swedish
0.05137441 Estonia
0.05380722 Slovakia
0.05484237 Polish
0.05521492 cass
0.05577622 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.05750036 Finnish_Central
0.05783437 Lithuania
0.05855963 Finnish_East
0.05905915 Latvia
0.06005459 Norwegian
0.06033994 German_Hamburg
0.06047614 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
0.06084696 Finnish_Southwest
0.06151859 Danish
0.06249295 PolishL_Mazovia1
0.06311751 Icelandic
0.06365841 Czech_Republic
0.06653471 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian2
0.07006843 Dutch
0.07080545 Finnish_North
0.07218232 Hungarian
0.07233443 Scottish
0.07337018 Welsh
0.07340197 Irish
0.07449977 English
0.07564793 Austrian
0.07637330 Austria
0.07707442 Slovenia
0.07718482 English_Cornwall
0.07811400 Croatian
0.07842506 French_Brittany
0.08403945 BelgianA
0.08597022 French_Seine-Maritime
0.08677873 BelgianB
0.08791715 Bosnia
0.08862757 French_Nord
0.09205297 BelgianC
0.09430214 Moldovan
0.09898809 Montenegro
0.09966002 Serbian
0.10315481 France
0.11017663 Switzerland
0.11596066 Bulgarian
0.12196947 Spain
0.12705040 North_Macedonia
0.12844337 Portugal
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.08944483 PolishL_Mazovia1
0.09178890 Finnish_Central
0.09451742 German_West_Prussia
0.09452785 Finnish_Southwest
0.09493470 Finnish_Southeast
0.09507558 Swedish
0.09735160 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian4
0.09814358 Finnish_North
0.09859577 Icelandic
0.09882591 Finnish_East
0.09900980 Norwegian
0.09909653 German_Hamburg
0.09917134 Slovakia
0.09918542 Polish
0.09924632 cass
0.09959236 Danish
0.10001212 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian3
0.10010606 Polish_Kashubian:Kashubian1
0.10100439 Czech_Republic
0.10123257 Irish
0.10203985 Estonia
0.10274201 Scottish
0.10359749 Dutch
0.10460399 Hungarian
0.10565790 Lithuania
Don't we all?
Distance to: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.05084169 Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o1
0.06108324 Poland_CordedWare_ProtoUnetice.SG
0.06175967 Estonia_CordedWare
0.06571346 Estonia_CordedWare.SG
0.06598793 Poland_CordedWare_3.SG
0.06605956 Germany_CordedWare.SG
0.06678058 Poland_CordedWare_1.SG
0.06830590 Germany_CordedWare_o
0.07044174 Czech_CordedWare
0.07419492 Germany_CordedWare
0.07703894 Poland_Southeast_CordedWare.SG
0.08178999 Ukraine_VertebaCave_CordedWare
0.09200137 Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o2
0.10850090 Czech_CordedWare_o2
0.12998189 Poland_CordedWare.SG
0.13178425 Czech_CordedWare_o3
0.13893722 Latvia_LN_CordedWare
0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.14531997 Latvia_LN_CordedWare.SG
0.15000189 Czech_CordedWare_o1
0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
0.33265485 France_Rochedane
Is that Polish1 your closest CordedWare sample?
Me vs Corded:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 2.6228% / 0.02622796 | ADC: 1x RC
63.2 Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o1
21.8 Czech_CordedWare_o3
15.0 Poland_CordedWare_ProtoUnetice.SG
Target: Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o1
Distance: 3.3749% / 0.03374903
64.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
22.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.4 France_Rochedane
Don't we all?
Distance to: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.05084169 Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o1
0.06108324 Poland_CordedWare_ProtoUnetice.SG
0.06175967 Estonia_CordedWare
0.06571346 Estonia_CordedWare.SG
0.06598793 Poland_CordedWare_3.SG
0.06605956 Germany_CordedWare.SG
0.06678058 Poland_CordedWare_1.SG
0.06830590 Germany_CordedWare_o
0.07044174 Czech_CordedWare
0.07419492 Germany_CordedWare
0.07703894 Poland_Southeast_CordedWare.SG
0.08178999 Ukraine_VertebaCave_CordedWare
0.09200137 Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o2
0.10850090 Czech_CordedWare_o2
0.12998189 Poland_CordedWare.SG
0.13178425 Czech_CordedWare_o3
0.13893722 Latvia_LN_CordedWare
0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.14531997 Latvia_LN_CordedWare.SG
0.15000189 Czech_CordedWare_o1
0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
0.33265485 France_Rochedane
Is that Polish1 your closest CordedWare sample?
Me vs Corded:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 2.6228% / 0.02622796 | ADC: 1x RC
63.2 Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o1
21.8 Czech_CordedWare_o3
15.0 Poland_CordedWare_ProtoUnetice.SG
Target: Estonia_CordedWare.SG_o1
Distance: 3.3749% / 0.03374903
64.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
22.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.4 France_Rochedane
Indeed Polish1 is the closest one.
Pls note that outliers are not actually true representatives of this population. Especially Czech outliers are doubious
Gallop
08-02-2024, 12:02 AM
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.09178890 Finnish_Central
0.09452785 Finnish_Southwest
0.09493470 Finnish_Southeast
0.09507558 Swedish
0.09814358 Finnish_North
0.09859577 Icelandic
0.09882591 Finnish_East
0.09900980 Norwegian
0.09909653 German_Hamburg
0.09917134 Slovakia
0.09918542 Polish
0.09959236 Danish
0.10100439 Czech_Republic
0.10123257 Irish
0.10203985 Estonia
0.10274201 Scottish
0.10359749 Dutch
0.10460399 Hungarian
0.10565790 Lithuania
0.10700986 Latvia
0.10738775 English
0.10762259 Welsh
0.10789663 Austrian
0.10856269 Croatian
0.10896169 Austria
0.10977851 Slovenia
0.11059648 English_Cornwall
0.11130335 Bosnia
0.11173407 French_Brittany
0.11244342 French_Seine-Maritime
0.11297429 Moldovan
0.11347771 BelgianA
0.11764642 BelgianB
0.11997636 French_Nord
0.12161925 Montenegro
0.12240958 Serbian
0.12528581 BelgianC
0.12995015 Bulgarian
0.13555158 Switzerland
0.13923919 France
0.13970970 North_Macedonia
0.15024701 Albania
0.15688012 Spain
0.15766571 Turkey
0.15799538 Gallop
0.15843750 Portugal
0.15882638 Father
0.16150800 Italy
0.16400345 brother
0.16666021 Greece
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.05771509 Moldovan
0.05973971 Hungarian
0.06117075 Austrian
0.06155879 Croatian
0.06158091 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06185950 Bosnia
0.06269781 Slovenia
0.06300944 Czech_Republic
0.06342406 German_Hamburg
0.06408667 BelgianA
0.06444940 Austria
0.06547121 Dutch
0.06669029 Montenegro
0.06697239 Scottish
0.06744729 Serbian
0.06806371 BelgianB
0.06837207 French_Nord
0.06838038 English
0.06873009 Welsh
0.06874598 Irish
0.06912874 Danish
0.06995812 French_Brittany
0.07039996 Bulgarian
0.07079568 Norwegian
0.07081148 English_Cornwall
0.07114987 Icelandic
0.07118706 Swedish
0.07300378 BelgianC
0.07376981 Slovakia
0.07611157 Polish
0.07626474 Switzerland
0.07996482 North_Macedonia
0.08374577 France
0.08570798 Finnish_Southwest
0.08774363 Albania
0.09363411 Finnish_Central
0.09681645 Finnish_Southeast
0.09776533 Italy
0.09795040 Spain
0.09863740 Gallop
0.09865922 Portugal
0.09984338 Finnish_North
0.10107593 Father
0.10210569 Estonia
0.10309649 Lithuania
0.10495819 Greece
0.10625937 brother
0.10670159 Finnish_East
0.10951501 Latvia
0.11151238 Turkey
Distance to: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
0.10207403 Italy
0.10439599 Spain
0.10461462 brother
0.10508788 Portugal
0.10887328 Father
0.11112460 Albania
0.11208780 Gallop
0.11607069 Greece
0.11864392 Switzerland
0.11998447 North_Macedonia
0.12124084 Israel
0.12133797 France
0.12811127 Bulgarian
0.13507709 Montenegro
0.13619065 Serbian
0.13670845 BelgianC
0.13969542 French_Nord
0.14250940 BelgianB
0.14692625 Moldovan
0.14963726 Bosnia
0.14965978 French_Seine-Maritime
0.15068131 Austrian
0.15082446 BelgianA
0.15167064 Austria
0.15417953 Croatian
0.15444964 Slovenia
0.15642763 French_Brittany
0.15808194 Hungarian
0.16246819 English_Cornwall
0.16260544 Welsh
0.16458662 English
0.16462759 Dutch
0.16692268 Czech_Republic
0.16951554 German_Hamburg
0.16983650 Scottish
0.17210044 Syrian
0.17293120 Irish
0.17456579 Danish
0.17529745 Turkey
0.17545337 Egypt
0.17741840 Slovakia
0.17761922 Norwegian
0.18001581 Armenia
0.18076585 Icelandic
0.18369750 Swedish
0.18618042 Polish
0.21566243 Finnish_Southwest
0.21681433 Finnish_Southeast
0.21796201 Iran
0.21797324 Lithuania
Balboa
08-02-2024, 12:15 AM
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.06914400 Balboa_maternal
0.08309201 Balboa
0.11970046 Balboa_paternal
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 01:20 AM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.34555255 gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15025885 gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.20982466 gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
If you run some other calculators maybe the ancient scaled calculators do any of the Croatian or North Macedonian come up for you? And you might be able to isolate it you know by just taking your top samples against that region and see what pops up might might work if you do it right potentially
Katarzyna
08-02-2024, 01:21 AM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31824042 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32141428 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13565657 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14453175 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14772452 Vessna_scaled
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 01:26 AM
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.06914400 Balboa_maternal
0.08309201 Balboa
0.11970046 Balboa_paternal
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
Are you saying you don't plot anywhere for Western hunter-gatherer or Yamnaya?
Balboa
08-02-2024, 02:51 AM
Are you saying you don't plot anywhere for Western hunter-gatherer or Yamnaya?
Of course i do but the distances are extremely far so nothing really interesting
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 02:53 AM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31824042 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32141428 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13565657 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14453175 Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14772452 Vessna_scaled
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
Can you show me how your DNAGenics coords plot to the IllustrativeDNA on the Northwest Euro map? My official measure very closesly to one another and on this Yamnaya distance the official gets .1425 and the DNAGenics .1429. My 23andMe plots closest of my coords to Yamnaya Samara average. I recommend you get that test as they use the best chip nowadays and should give the best results.
This is how my coords line up to my closest Samara individual sample:
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
0.12298802 Finnish_Southeast
0.12328801 Finnish_Central
0.12421162 Finnish_East
0.12772110 SC_23andMe_Official_Scaled
0.12819695 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.12892080 Finnish_North
0.12910803 SC_Ancestry_Official_Scaled
0.12951412 Finnish_Southwest
0.12985238 Swedish
0.13048509 SC_DNAGenics_Ancestry_Scaled
0.13067541 SC_MergedRSID_DNAGenics_Scaled
0.13210509 SC_DNAGenics_23andMe_Scaled
0.13230557 Icelandic
0.13232618 Norwegian
0.13433620 Danish
0.13481228 Irish
0.13614080 Estonia
0.13714706 Scottish
0.13792492 German_Hamburg
0.13933290 Dutch
We should all make specific calcs, if possible, based on all the individual samples of Yamnaya from Samara, and also with all Yamnaya samples from all the places, with and without outliers. I will try this closest sample against the Spain_EN woman I matched to on DNAGenics Ancient Europe samples report. I bet I'll model differently if I use those. Check your ancient farming (EN & N) samples on DNAGenics and sub them in for Barcin, then use all individual Samara samples, along with Rochedene. You might be able to see a different model of yourself from the stock calc.
Katarzyna
08-02-2024, 03:47 AM
Can you show me how your DNAGenics coords plot to the IllustrativeDNA on the Northwest Euro map? My official measure very closesly to one another and on this Yamnaya distance the official gets .1425 and the DNAGenics .1429. My 23andMe plots closest of my coords to Yamnaya Samara average. I recommend you get that test as they use the best chip nowadays and should give the best results.
This is how my coords line up to my closest Samara individual sample:
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
0.12298802 Finnish_Southeast
0.12328801 Finnish_Central
0.12421162 Finnish_East
0.12772110 SC_23andMe_Official_Scaled
0.12819695 SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
0.12892080 Finnish_North
0.12910803 SC_Ancestry_Official_Scaled
0.12951412 Finnish_Southwest
0.12985238 Swedish
0.13048509 SC_DNAGenics_Ancestry_Scaled
0.13067541 SC_MergedRSID_DNAGenics_Scaled
0.13210509 SC_DNAGenics_23andMe_Scaled
0.13230557 Icelandic
0.13232618 Norwegian
0.13433620 Danish
0.13481228 Irish
0.13614080 Estonia
0.13714706 Scottish
0.13792492 German_Hamburg
0.13933290 Dutch
We should all make specific calcs, if possible, based on all the individual samples of Yamnaya from Samara, and also with all Yamnaya samples from all the places, with and without outliers. I will try this closest sample against the Spain_EN woman I matched to on DNAGenics Ancient Europe samples report. I bet I'll model differently if I use those. Check your ancient farming (EN & N) samples on DNAGenics and sub them in for Barcin, then use all individual Samara samples, along with Rochedene. You might be able to see a different model of yourself from the stock calc.
Here you are
https://i.ibb.co/4YMRCVv/IMG-2127.jpg (https://ibb.co/61b0GW9)
My DNAGenics coords are public while I keep my Davidsky coords secret because I dont want them to end up in some pools for calculators.
Here are my DNAGENICS coords:
Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics),0.12884350,0.1182 2274,0.07410266,0.06535080,0.03740492,0.02441828,0 .01044682,0.01454748,-0.00366082,-0.02615052,0.00147418,-0.00738852,0.01285938,0.01456346,-0.00407020,0.00563590,0.01208494,-0.00257216,0.00121824,0.00341498,-0.00194996,-0.00398170,-0.00244952,0.00391234,0.00160931
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 03:49 AM
Of course i do but the distances are extremely far so nothing really interesting
I understand, but for modeling purposes, if you modeled yourself after those couple groups you are closest to, it would still be something right? I mean, what's your Yamnaya-EEF-WHG admixture look like? Then look at those percentages applied to the group above and below you for each of the Targets, like I showed above for me with Estonia-Swedish for Yamnaya, Brittany-Cornwall for Rochedene, and Irish-Danish for EEF. The % for each could then be your reverse modeling.
Vessna
08-02-2024, 04:13 AM
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14772452 Vessna_scaled
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
0.23487032 Armenia
0.25603489 Syrian
0.27922590 Egypt
0.32074628 Morocco
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24502902 Vessna_scaled
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
0.26609376 Estonia
0.26729680 Finnish_Central
0.27132121 Latvia
0.27347719 Finnish_North
0.27711897 Finnish_East
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32472166 Vessna_scaled
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
0.46063154 Syrian
0.46298314 Iran
0.46783437 Egypt
0.46838440 Armenia
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
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Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18216325 Dick
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Zero Dicks given
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 04:22 AM
Here you are
https://i.ibb.co/4YMRCVv/IMG-2127.jpg (https://ibb.co/61b0GW9)
My DNAGenics coords are public while I keep my Davidsky coords secret because I dont want them to end up in some pools for calculators.
Here are my DNAGENICS coords:
Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics),0.12884350,0.1182 2274,0.07410266,0.06535080,0.03740492,0.02441828,0 .01044682,0.01454748,-0.00366082,-0.02615052,0.00147418,-0.00738852,0.01285938,0.01456346,-0.00407020,0.00563590,0.01208494,-0.00257216,0.00121824,0.00341498,-0.00194996,-0.00398170,-0.00244952,0.00391234,0.00160931
They are quite close to official on the PCA, but use one as Target and one as Source to see distance it shows. Mine plot almost on top of each other in NW Euro map, but this is Vahaduo distance it shows:
Distance to: SC_Ancestry_Official_Scaled
0.02532663 SC_DNAGenics_Ancestry_Scaled
This is zoomed a bit, but you can see distances on PCA look much closer than Vahaduo differential they give them:
https://i.postimg.cc/5ywDWV4Z/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-08-02-T002054-604.png (https://postimages.org/)photo upload sites (https://postimages.org/)
Vessna
08-02-2024, 04:24 AM
Distance to: Ukraine_Ozera_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.10206651 Turkey
0.10813895 Moldovan
0.11191296 Bulgarian
0.11194573 Bosnia
0.11339320 Iran
0.11517041 Montenegro
0.11617356 Hungarian
0.11641777 Croatian
0.11682802 Serbian
0.11703039 Austrian
0.11838809 North_Macedonia
0.11875876 French_Seine-Maritime
0.11887871 Austria
0.11926292 Slovenia
0.11952968 Czech_Republic
0.12200324 German_Hamburg
0.12244761 Dutch
0.12274851 Slovakia
0.12307769 BelgianB
0.12378215 Irish
0.12424274 Scottish
0.12439089 BelgianA
0.12487932 Albania
0.12498312 French_Nord
0.12544176 Danish
0.12583986 Welsh
0.12613134 Norwegian
0.12616401 Swedish
0.12617581 Switzerland
0.12632307 French_Brittany
0.12637624 English
0.12715569 Icelandic
0.12758259 Greece
0.12758684 Polish
0.12949892 English_Cornwall
0.13009438 BelgianC
0.13264756 Armenia
0.13298322 Italy
0.13335823 Finnish_Southeast
0.13525115 Finnish_Central
0.13531760 Israel
0.13571875 Vessna_scaled
0.13657017 Finnish_Southwest
0.13801202 France
0.13911931 Finnish_East
0.14179955 Finnish_North
0.14599911 Portugal
0.14603573 Estonia
0.14683024 Lithuania
0.14852224 Spain
0.15101699 Latvia
0.15935388 Syrian
0.18612367 Egypt
0.24973020 Morocco
Distance to: Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12837270 Finnish_Central
0.12846698 Finnish_East
0.13055208 Finnish_North
0.13195595 Finnish_Southeast
0.13490202 Finnish_Southwest
0.14040065 Estonia
0.14376048 Latvia
0.14451334 Swedish
0.14473791 Lithuania
0.14533335 Vessna_scaled
0.14704553 Polish
0.14833357 Slovakia
0.14885635 Icelandic
0.14913390 Norwegian
0.15067868 Danish
0.15106649 German_Hamburg
0.15268350 Czech_Republic
0.15303673 Irish
0.15425459 Scottish
0.15558397 Dutch
0.15630337 Hungarian
0.15886056 English
0.15969357 Welsh
0.16058685 Croatian
0.16098909 Austrian
0.16140568 Slovenia
0.16192854 Austria
0.16230105 English_Cornwall
0.16252348 Bosnia
0.16368793 Moldovan
0.16433910 French_Brittany
0.16557983 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16648279 BelgianA
0.17050392 BelgianB
0.17297402 Montenegro
0.17306933 French_Nord
0.17359993 Serbian
0.17786265 BelgianC
0.18033724 Bulgarian
0.18832981 Switzerland
0.18957428 North_Macedonia
0.19259190 France
0.19375195 Turkey
0.19968271 Albania
0.20526997 Iran
0.21022126 Spain
0.21132302 Portugal
0.21162494 Italy
0.21329851 Greece
0.22320486 Israel
0.22854809 Armenia
0.24968392 Syrian
0.27272624 Egypt
0.31754387 Morocco
Distance to: Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
0.10962278 Finnish_Southeast
0.11286751 Finnish_Central
0.11334623 Finnish_East
0.11817687 Swedish
0.12128521 Finnish_Southwest
0.12137345 Finnish_North
0.12141959 Norwegian
0.12254167 Danish
0.12293905 Icelandic
0.12318371 Slovakia
0.12414604 German_Hamburg
0.12423547 Estonia
0.12432519 Irish
0.12519153 Polish
0.12656314 Vessna_scaled
0.12665609 Scottish
0.12667472 Dutch
0.12682732 Czech_Republic
0.12884671 Lithuania
0.12887146 Latvia
0.13056798 Hungarian
0.13088689 English
0.13116272 Welsh
0.13263409 Austrian
0.13318533 Austria
0.13442568 English_Cornwall
0.13449719 Croatian
0.13491909 French_Brittany
0.13630162 Slovenia
0.13640537 Bosnia
0.13708099 French_Seine-Maritime
0.13871346 Moldovan
0.13877699 BelgianA
0.14065317 BelgianB
0.14424327 French_Nord
0.14574441 Montenegro
0.14734071 Serbian
0.14848230 BelgianC
0.15449902 Bulgarian
0.15821697 Switzerland
0.16267689 North_Macedonia
0.16275128 France
0.17302689 Albania
0.17486728 Turkey
0.18013340 Spain
0.18086136 Portugal
0.18362519 Italy
0.18794204 Greece
0.19295684 Iran
0.19727171 Israel
0.21068933 Armenia
0.22983790 Syrian
0.25254740 Egypt
0.29655709 Morocco
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14772452 Vessna_scaled
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
0.23487032 Armenia
0.25603489 Syrian
0.27922590 Egypt
0.32074628 Morocco
Distance to: Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
0.12523753 Finnish_East
0.12661854 Finnish_Central
0.12788371 Finnish_Southeast
0.13058158 Finnish_North
0.13442448 Finnish_Southwest
0.13862422 Estonia
0.14084672 Swedish
0.14223477 Latvia
0.14356238 Lithuania
0.14457705 Vessna_scaled
0.14488389 Norwegian
0.14523630 Icelandic
0.14582011 Polish
0.14615624 Slovakia
0.14671965 Danish
0.14827508 German_Hamburg
0.14868074 Irish
0.15053982 Scottish
0.15098602 Czech_Republic
0.15197017 Dutch
0.15509811 Hungarian
0.15559228 English
0.15609459 Welsh
0.15889424 English_Cornwall
0.15913515 Austrian
0.15967155 Croatian
0.16042426 Austria
0.16053581 French_Brittany
0.16077058 Slovenia
0.16214310 Bosnia
0.16348256 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16409467 Moldovan
0.16415437 BelgianA
0.16752276 BelgianB
0.17045990 French_Nord
0.17267909 Montenegro
0.17359230 Serbian
0.17516638 BelgianC
0.18079379 Bulgarian
0.18624455 Switzerland
0.18971514 France
0.19018856 North_Macedonia
0.19689830 Turkey
0.20020386 Albania
0.20724016 Spain
0.20810194 Portugal
0.20897009 Iran
0.21156577 Italy
0.21498684 Greece
0.22419153 Israel
0.23283396 Armenia
0.25191617 Syrian
0.27435003 Egypt
0.31348644 Morocco
Distance to: Russia_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.16526010 Finnish_East
0.16627638 Finnish_Central
0.16804093 Finnish_Southeast
0.16887310 Finnish_North
0.17249347 Finnish_Southwest
0.17734792 Swedish
0.17952714 Estonia
0.17954702 Norwegian
0.17990458 Slovakia
0.17993617 Icelandic
0.18029970 Irish
0.18058695 Polish
0.18102651 Danish
0.18138470 Vessna_scaled
0.18141798 German_Hamburg
0.18204164 Scottish
0.18260506 Czech_Republic
0.18294422 Latvia
0.18324760 Lithuania
0.18358293 Dutch
0.18404171 Hungarian
0.18658117 Moldovan
0.18669771 English
0.18685810 Croatian
0.18710661 Welsh
0.18721001 Austrian
0.18725702 Bosnia
0.18852490 Slovenia
0.18862714 Austria
0.18912671 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19001169 French_Brittany
0.19023258 English_Cornwall
0.19132606 Turkey
0.19159843 Iran
0.19216085 BelgianA
0.19425254 BelgianB
0.19530004 Montenegro
0.19622247 Serbian
0.19667454 French_Nord
0.19830975 Bulgarian
0.20170774 BelgianC
0.20619081 North_Macedonia
0.20735864 Switzerland
0.21374885 France
0.21454993 Albania
0.22195653 Greece
0.22271759 Armenia
0.22387181 Italy
0.22757443 Portugal
0.22836047 Spain
0.22874867 Israel
0.24587529 Syrian
0.26990021 Egypt
0.31614855 Morocco
Distance to: Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya
0.13766207 Finnish_Central
0.13886636 Finnish_East
0.13943188 Finnish_North
0.14176802 Finnish_Southeast
0.14320114 Finnish_Southwest
0.15169471 Swedish
0.15213023 Estonia
0.15464627 Icelandic
0.15493584 Norwegian
0.15630815 Latvia
0.15663798 Polish
0.15679051 Vessna_scaled
0.15685124 Danish
0.15695943 Irish
0.15709958 Lithuania
0.15748936 Slovakia
0.15770327 German_Hamburg
0.15873186 Scottish
0.15996442 Czech_Republic
0.16071817 Dutch
0.16281273 Hungarian
0.16374900 English
0.16440850 Welsh
0.16687642 Austrian
0.16710166 Croatian
0.16717240 English_Cornwall
0.16803443 Austria
0.16819715 French_Brittany
0.16845985 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16851997 Slovenia
0.16892274 Moldovan
0.16894720 Bosnia
0.17076248 BelgianA
0.17427984 BelgianB
0.17709085 French_Nord
0.17865872 Montenegro
0.17940237 Serbian
0.18195942 BelgianC
0.18383895 Bulgarian
0.18895399 Turkey
0.19096991 Switzerland
0.19347448 North_Macedonia
0.19522135 France
0.19592482 Iran
0.20259469 Albania
0.21174368 Spain
0.21211917 Portugal
0.21257849 Italy
0.21394797 Greece
0.22175601 Israel
0.22415674 Armenia
0.24548782 Syrian
0.26893506 Egypt
0.31301246 Morocco
Distance to: Kazakhstan_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
0.12827464 Finnish_East
0.12914901 Finnish_Central
0.12921236 Finnish_Southeast
0.13371205 Finnish_North
0.13713299 Finnish_Southwest
0.14075767 Swedish
0.14348372 Estonia
0.14360226 Norwegian
0.14390853 Icelandic
0.14588349 Danish
0.14618274 Irish
0.14811026 Slovakia
0.14815369 Vessna_scaled
0.14831064 Latvia
0.14847465 German_Hamburg
0.14855954 Scottish
0.14880454 Polish
0.14905803 Lithuania
0.15048528 Dutch
0.15213540 Czech_Republic
0.15395034 English
0.15447873 Welsh
0.15584210 Hungarian
0.15733925 English_Cornwall
0.15824502 French_Brittany
0.15898593 Austrian
0.15989953 Austria
0.16047684 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16052157 Croatian
0.16225287 Slovenia
0.16275545 BelgianA
0.16301945 Bosnia
0.16446132 Moldovan
0.16535690 BelgianB
0.16876866 French_Nord
0.17288256 Montenegro
0.17309768 BelgianC
0.17405003 Serbian
0.18028019 Bulgarian
0.18395478 Switzerland
0.18713200 France
0.18968777 North_Macedonia
0.19333331 Turkey
0.19939834 Albania
0.20452511 Spain
0.20526889 Portugal
0.20638868 Iran
0.20938266 Italy
0.21350937 Greece
0.22177506 Israel
0.23086693 Armenia
0.25063005 Syrian
0.27311620 Egypt
0.31234186 Morocco
Distance to: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
0.10207403 Italy
0.10439599 Spain
0.10508788 Portugal
0.11112460 Albania
0.11607069 Greece
0.11864392 Switzerland
0.11998447 North_Macedonia
0.12124084 Israel
0.12133797 France
0.12811127 Bulgarian
0.13507709 Montenegro
0.13619065 Serbian
0.13670845 BelgianC
0.13969542 French_Nord
0.14250940 BelgianB
0.14692625 Moldovan
0.14963726 Bosnia
0.14965978 French_Seine-Maritime
0.15068131 Austrian
0.15082446 BelgianA
0.15167064 Austria
0.15417953 Croatian
0.15444964 Slovenia
0.15642763 French_Brittany
0.15808194 Hungarian
0.16246819 English_Cornwall
0.16260544 Welsh
0.16458662 English
0.16462759 Dutch
0.16692268 Czech_Republic
0.16951554 German_Hamburg
0.16983650 Scottish
0.17210044 Syrian
0.17293120 Irish
0.17456579 Danish
0.17529745 Turkey
0.17545337 Egypt
0.17741840 Slovakia
0.17761922 Norwegian
0.18001581 Armenia
0.18076585 Icelandic
0.18369750 Swedish
0.18618042 Polish
0.20182093 Vessna_scaled
0.21566243 Finnish_Southwest
0.21681433 Finnish_Southeast
0.21796201 Iran
0.21797324 Lithuania
0.21991766 Morocco
0.22109310 Estonia
0.22395866 Finnish_Central
0.22635260 Latvia
0.23168491 Finnish_East
0.23276839 Finnish_North
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya_o
0.05771509 Moldovan
0.05973971 Hungarian
0.06117075 Austrian
0.06155879 Croatian
0.06158091 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06185950 Bosnia
0.06269781 Slovenia
0.06300944 Czech_Republic
0.06342406 German_Hamburg
0.06408667 BelgianA
0.06444940 Austria
0.06547121 Dutch
0.06669029 Montenegro
0.06697239 Scottish
0.06744729 Serbian
0.06806371 BelgianB
0.06837207 French_Nord
0.06838038 English
0.06873009 Welsh
0.06874598 Irish
0.06912874 Danish
0.06995812 French_Brittany
0.07039996 Bulgarian
0.07079568 Norwegian
0.07081148 English_Cornwall
0.07114987 Icelandic
0.07118706 Swedish
0.07300378 BelgianC
0.07376981 Slovakia
0.07611157 Polish
0.07626474 Switzerland
0.07996482 North_Macedonia
0.08374577 France
0.08570798 Finnish_Southwest
0.08774363 Albania
0.09089951 Vessna_scaled
0.09363411 Finnish_Central
0.09681645 Finnish_Southeast
0.09776533 Italy
0.09795040 Spain
0.09865922 Portugal
0.09984338 Finnish_North
0.10210569 Estonia
0.10309649 Lithuania
0.10495819 Greece
0.10670159 Finnish_East
0.10951501 Latvia
0.11151238 Turkey
0.11757124 Israel
0.14520931 Iran
0.14619532 Armenia
0.16251288 Syrian
0.18364782 Egypt
0.23761130 Morocco
Distance to: Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
0.09178890 Finnish_Central
0.09452785 Finnish_Southwest
0.09493470 Finnish_Southeast
0.09507558 Swedish
0.09814358 Finnish_North
0.09859577 Icelandic
0.09882591 Finnish_East
0.09900980 Norwegian
0.09909653 German_Hamburg
0.09917134 Slovakia
0.09918542 Polish
0.09959236 Danish
0.10100439 Czech_Republic
0.10123257 Irish
0.10203985 Estonia
0.10274201 Scottish
0.10359749 Dutch
0.10407848 Vessna_scaled
0.10460399 Hungarian
0.10565790 Lithuania
0.10700986 Latvia
0.10738775 English
0.10762259 Welsh
0.10789663 Austrian
0.10856269 Croatian
0.10896169 Austria
0.10977851 Slovenia
0.11059648 English_Cornwall
0.11130335 Bosnia
0.11173407 French_Brittany
0.11244342 French_Seine-Maritime
0.11297429 Moldovan
0.11347771 BelgianA
0.11764642 BelgianB
0.11997636 French_Nord
0.12161925 Montenegro
0.12240958 Serbian
0.12528581 BelgianC
0.12995015 Bulgarian
0.13555158 Switzerland
0.13923919 France
0.13970970 North_Macedonia
0.15024701 Albania
0.15688012 Spain
0.15766571 Turkey
0.15843750 Portugal
0.16150800 Italy
0.16666021 Greece
0.17686159 Iran
0.17700427 Israel
0.19351178 Armenia
0.21275429 Syrian
0.23530420 Egypt
0.28034617 Morocco
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 04:32 AM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
404 Not Found
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18216325 Dick
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
Zero Dicks given
Dick, increase your Max Output Number to 50 on the Distance page. You'll see them.
rothaer
08-02-2024, 07:19 AM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32009675 rothaer_scaled
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22025633 rothaer_scaled
0.22035914 Danish
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14958339 rothaer_scaled
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
Grace O'Malley
08-02-2024, 08:29 AM
Good idea. I used my G25 from Davidski and Illustrative DNA G25 from MyHeritage. They are both very similar.
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14633160 Grace_scaled
0.14663126 GraceMyHeritage_scaled
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22324008 GraceMyHeritage_scaled
0.22341474 Grace_scaled
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32392686 Grace_scaled
0.32414151 GraceMyHeritage_scaled
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
Are you not up to date ?
Europeans are better made today with WHG, EHG, EEF, Neolithic_Iran and Siberian...
What is the point to care about those 3 here ?
celticdragongod
08-02-2024, 09:07 AM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33477902 CDG_scaled
0.33920783 BelgianA
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21625770 CDG_scaled
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
0.26609376 Estonia
0.26729680 Finnish_Central
0.27132121 Latvia
0.27347719 Finnish_North
0.27711897 Finnish_East
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15105901 CDG_scaled
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
EasternLusitanian
08-02-2024, 10:27 AM
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14123489 MV_scaled
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21459188 MV_scaled
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.36486711 MV_scaled
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
EasternLusitanian
08-02-2024, 10:28 AM
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14123489 MV_scaled
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24597829 Algeria
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21459188 MV_scaled
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.36486711 MV_scaled
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 12:31 PM
Are you not up to date ?
Europeans are better made today with WHG, EHG, EEF, Neolithic_Iran and Siberian...
What is the point to care about those 3 here ?
No CHG? All those Yamnaya never made it to Europe?
Share some samples and links to your info, thanks. Better yet, make a calc for us.
No CHG? All those Yamnaya never made it to Europe?
Share some samples and links to your info, thanks. Better yet, make a calc for us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe#Autosomal_DNA
According to geneticist David Reich, based on ancient human genomes that his laboratory sequenced in 2016, Europeans descend from a mixture of four West-Eurasian ancestral components, namely WHG (western hunter-gatherers), EHG, Neolithic farmers from the Levant/Anatolia as well as from Neolithic farmers from Iran (often summarized as "EEF"; early European farmers), in varying degrees.[94][95]
Siberian geneflow is found among several Uralic-speaking European ethnic groups. This Siberian component is itself a composition of Ancient North Eurasian and East Asian-related ancestry from Eastern Siberia, maximized among Evenks and Evens or Nganasans. The spread of this ancestry is linked by some geneticists to the dispersal of Uralic languages, others however maintain that the Uralic languages spread prior to the arrival of Siberian geneflow, which is a secondary source of diversity within Uralic-speaking populations.[96][97] Genetic data points to a western Siberian hunter-gatherer origin of the observed Siberian geneflow among Uralic-speaking groups. Western Siberian hunter-gatherers were characterized by high Ancient North Eurasian ancestry and lower amounts of Eastern Siberian admixture. Genetic data on Volga Tatars or Chuvash, found among "Western Turkic speakers, like Chuvash and Volga Tatar, the East Asian component was detected only in low amounts (~ 5%)".
Balboa
08-02-2024, 02:23 PM
I understand, but for modeling purposes, if you modeled yourself after those couple groups you are closest to, it would still be something right? I mean, what's your Yamnaya-EEF-WHG admixture look like? Then look at those percentages applied to the group above and below you for each of the Targets, like I showed above for me with Estonia-Swedish for Yamnaya, Brittany-Cornwall for Rochedene, and Irish-Danish for EEF. The % for each could then be your reverse modeling.
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.39574325 Balboa_maternal
0.40290331 Balboa
0.41342264 Balboa_paternal
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
0.46063154 Syrian
0.46298314 Iran
0.46783437 Egypt
0.46838440 Armenia
0.47357550 Algeria
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
0.22902166 Balboa_paternal
0.23487032 Armenia
0.25603489 Syrian
0.26204410 Balboa
0.27922590 Egypt
0.29324782 Balboa_maternal
0.32074628 Morocco
0.34210008 Algeria
Distance to: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
0.03886441 Balboa_maternal
0.06171183 Balboa
0.10207403 Italy
0.10381135 Balboa_paternal
0.10439599 Spain
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 02:57 PM
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.39574325 Balboa_maternal
0.40290331 Balboa
0.41342264 Balboa_paternal
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
0.46063154 Syrian
0.46298314 Iran
0.46783437 Egypt
0.46838440 Armenia
0.47357550 Algeria
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
0.22902166 Balboa_paternal
0.23487032 Armenia
0.25603489 Syrian
0.26204410 Balboa
0.27922590 Egypt
0.29324782 Balboa_maternal
0.32074628 Morocco
0.34210008 Algeria
Distance to: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
0.03886441 Balboa_maternal
0.06171183 Balboa
0.10207403 Italy
0.10381135 Balboa_paternal
0.10439599 Spain
So are you Italian, Syrian, Egyptian, and Greek? Which sample is above you on the Baden_Yamnaya? You could include that closest one.
ScandinavianCelt
08-02-2024, 03:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Europe#Autosomal_DNA
Thanks.
I wonder why they don't mention CHG? Yamnaya are a mix of EHG&CHG, with Samara having prob under 5% WHG&Neolithic EEF combined. Some samples are 95% EHG+CHG with no WHG (Kalmykia, for example), but show small % of EEF. That said, what you shared is not properly addressing the CHG component. Keep in mind that was written 8 years ago. See what you can find that's more "up-to-data," as you say.
The need to measure the Siberian geneflow better is a good idea for a new calc in relation to these other groups, esp the Eastern vs Western groups. DNAGenics has some actual sample matching of Ancient Asia to help us discover potentially which groups we have and their proportions.
Thanks for the info.
Distance to:
(...)
Distance to: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
0.03886441 Balboa_maternal
0.06171183 Balboa
0.10207403 Italy
0.10381135 Balboa_paternal
0.10439599 Spain
Target: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119
Distance: 1.6150% / 0.01615033
89.0 LBK
6.2 WHG
4.8 Yamnaya
Target: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118
Distance: 1.7819% / 0.01781873
87.6 LBK
8.0 WHG
4.4 Yamnaya
Target: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117
Distance: 3.2819% / 0.03281932
86.0 LBK
6.0 WHG
5.4 Yamnaya
2.6 EHG
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya is only cultural, not biological Yamnaya.
Balboa
08-02-2024, 07:34 PM
there is no sample above Baden or EEF even with Sardinian added, me and my mother are the closest. i am half Sardinian and half Albanian/Calabrian from Italy. both Sardinians and Calabrians are the least Yamnaya people in europe so it makes sense
Thanks.
I wonder why they don't mention CHG? Yamnaya are a mix of EHG&CHG, with Samara having prob under 5% WHG&Neolithic EEF combined. Some samples are 95% EHG+CHG with no WHG (Kalmykia, for example), but show small % of EEF. That said, what you shared is not properly addressing the CHG component. Keep in mind that was written 8 years ago. See what you can find that's more "up-to-data," as you say.
The need to measure the Siberian geneflow better is a good idea for a new calc in relation to these other groups, esp the Eastern vs Western groups. DNAGenics has some actual sample matching of Ancient Asia to help us discover potentially which groups we have and their proportions.
Thanks for the info.
Sorry i forgot east asian too
Balboa
08-02-2024, 10:22 PM
Target: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119
Distance: 1.6150% / 0.01615033
89.0 LBK
6.2 WHG
4.8 Yamnaya
Target: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118
Distance: 1.7819% / 0.01781873
87.6 LBK
8.0 WHG
4.4 Yamnaya
Target: Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117
Distance: 3.2819% / 0.03281932
86.0 LBK
6.0 WHG
5.4 Yamnaya
2.6 EHG
Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya is only cultural, not biological Yamnaya.
I am aware ahah, otherwise Sardinians wouldn't cluster with it. Actually it has a pretty similar composition to modern Sardinians, only the WHG is a little bit lower compared to Sards.
ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 01:08 AM
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14772452 Vessna_scaled
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16164185 Austria
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
0.23487032 Armenia
0.25603489 Syrian
0.27922590 Egypt
0.32074628 Morocco
Distance to: Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.12964439 Italy
0.13329670 Israel
0.13391565 Greece
0.14164752 Albania
0.14465894 Portugal
0.14729659 Spain
0.15325794 North_Macedonia
0.16008698 Switzerland
0.16350354 Bulgarian
0.16510169 Egypt
0.16626438 France
0.16815761 Syrian
0.17492636 Serbian
0.17502871 Montenegro
0.17999985 Armenia
0.18025409 BelgianC
0.18324608 French_Nord
0.18480609 Moldovan
0.18694666 BelgianB
0.18972665 Bosnia
0.18986109 Turkey
0.19251653 French_Seine-Maritime
0.19316928 BelgianA
0.19426570 Austrian
0.19539943 Croatian
0.19544588 Austria
0.19586141 Slovenia
0.20030526 Hungarian
0.20151698 French_Brittany
0.20681933 English_Cornwall
0.20782130 Welsh
0.20904585 English
0.20973098 Dutch
0.21020987 Czech_Republic
0.21413518 Scottish
0.21436656 German_Hamburg
0.21710515 Morocco
0.21767983 Irish
0.22035914 Danish
0.22306016 Slovakia
0.22370329 Norwegian
0.22603267 Icelandic
0.22641867 Iran
0.22981886 Polish
0.22982917 Swedish
0.24502902 Vessna_scaled
0.25659852 Finnish_Southwest
0.26245327 Lithuania
0.26419752 Finnish_Southeast
0.26609376 Estonia
0.26729680 Finnish_Central
0.27132121 Latvia
0.27347719 Finnish_North
0.27711897 Finnish_East
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32472166 Vessna_scaled
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34007870 Austria
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
0.46063154 Syrian
0.46298314 Iran
0.46783437 Egypt
0.46838440 Armenia
It looks like you have half Western genetics if you modeled yourself after those two groups one above and one below you but I wonder if you did like two groups or the two closest distance it might be the two below you for example if it would come out differently for you you might need to not take the one above and below but maybe two below every time to make it work correctly for you I don't know seems like you're on The Fringe of the west but you're probably at least three quarters or more from Poland going Eastward
Dick, increase your Max Output Number to 50 on the Distance page. You'll see them.
Thank you :hug:
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12814818 Finnish_East
0.12862308 Finnish_Central
0.12970263 Finnish_Southeast
0.13271791 Finnish_North
0.13611500 Finnish_Southwest
0.14097956 Estonia
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14467663 Latvia
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14612929 Lithuania
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14870102 Slovakia
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15303568 Czech_Republic
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15762537 Hungarian
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16107980 Austrian
0.16224942 Croatian
0.16341925 Slovenia
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16495240 Bosnia
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16695508 Moldovan
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17154626 Dick
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17549494 Montenegro
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17647803 Serbian
0.18352036 Bulgarian
0.18783293 Switzerland
0.19076132 France
0.19314444 North_Macedonia
0.19956539 Turkey
0.20331603 Albania
0.20885650 Spain
0.21022344 Portugal
0.21089939 Iran
0.21391656 Italy
0.21770330 Greece
0.22716877 Israel
0.23487032 Armenia
Distance to: WHG:France_Rochedane:Rochedane
0.30729883 Latvia
0.30782646 Estonia
0.31014990 Finnish_Southeast
0.31133697 Lithuania
0.31175078 Finnish_East
0.31448729 Finnish_Central
0.31562486 Finnish_North
0.31604257 Finnish_Southwest
0.31887178 Swedish
0.32214799 Icelandic
0.32330238 Norwegian
0.32363866 Polish
0.32515293 Danish
0.32701118 Slovakia
0.32754789 German_Hamburg
0.33031177 Welsh
0.33046317 Irish
0.33058138 Scottish
0.33072675 English
0.33127943 Dutch
0.33145125 English_Cornwall
0.33271964 French_Brittany
0.33306283 Czech_Republic
0.33920783 BelgianA
0.33954359 Austrian
0.34008415 Hungarian
0.34140383 BelgianB
0.34153550 Slovenia
0.34207722 French_Seine-Maritime
0.34221478 French_Nord
0.34259920 BelgianC
0.34263633 France
0.34361742 Croatian
0.35038755 Spain
0.35323160 Bosnia
0.35712930 Moldovan
0.35775467 Portugal
0.35847773 Switzerland
0.35990137 Dick
0.36023531 Serbian
0.36025473 Montenegro
0.37153971 Bulgarian
0.38147388 North_Macedonia
0.38898706 Albania
0.39275476 Italy
0.41353791 Greece
0.41949450 Israel
0.43139061 Turkey
0.45857621 Morocco
0.46063154 Syrian
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