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ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 04:43 AM
Isolated to two regions: Northern Europe and Southwest Asia
<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/vmcMSu41" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>
My result:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.7226% / 0.01722647
52.0 Danish
26.4 Irish
13.0 Finnish_Southeast
3.2 Israel
2.8 Pakistan
2.6 Armenia
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.8112% / 0.01811192 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.8 Danish
6.0 Afghanistan
2.2 Turkey
Target: cass
Distance: 2.7636% / 0.02763639
67.0 Swedish
19.6 Finnish_Southwest
7.6 Israel
4.2 Finnish_Southeast
1.6 Armenia
Target: cass
Distance: 2.9343% / 0.02934338 | ADC: 0.5x
88.4 Swedish
8.4 Finnish_Southwest
3.2 Israel
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Estonian,0.1329454,0.1141455,0.087756,0.0833017,0. 0427771,0.0297575,0.0113745,0.0144457,0.0004091,-0.028447,6.5E-05,-0.0123489,0.0194597,0.0213591,-0.0066639,0.0017104,0.0002216,-0.0024832,0.0013451,0.0022137,0.001385,-0.0018672,0.0042644,0.0007471,0.0030535
Latvian,0.13431117,0.12186367,0.0885605,0.088502,0 .043495167,0.033699167,0.011828833,0.014383833,-0.002352,-0.038603333,-0.0029503333,-0.013413167,0.023711333,0.030965167,-0.010857667,0.0030275,0.0035853333,0.0002955,0.000 94266667,0.0040436667,-0.0024748333,-0.0061208333,0.0090585,-0.0095795,0.0017763333
Distance to: cass
0.03145903 Swedish
0.03848682 Danish
0.04200264 Norwegian
0.04323628 Icelandic
0.04733066 Shetlandic
0.04794161 Scottish
0.04799992 Welsh
0.04860018 English
0.05016656 Estonian
0.05053520 English_Cornwall
0.05154863 Irish
0.05351781 Finnish_Southwest
0.06063548 Finnish_Southeast
0.06211517 Latvian
0.06251796 Finnish_Central
0.07392153 Finnish_North
0.07751572 Finnish_East
0.14410494 Israel
0.15516653 Turkey
0.19099630 Armenia
0.19459649 Lebanon
0.19555048 Iran
0.19920384 Syrian:
0.20828510 Afghanistan
0.21274368 Iraqi:
Target: cass
Distance: 1.1062% / 0.01106175
49.0 Latvian
39.4 English_Cornwall
11.6 Israel
Target: cass
Distance: 1.8331% / 0.01833142 | ADC: 0.5x
68.6 Swedish
25.0 Latvian
6.4 Israel
It won't be a very popular thread... Any signal outside the North Sea immediately escapes to the nearest coordinate detected by the calculator, i.e. EEF
Target: French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille
Distance: 2.1783% / 0.02178326
61.0 English_Cornwall
39.0 Israel
Target: Italian_Veneto_Lessinia_(Cimbrian)
Distance: 2.2300% / 0.02230024
61.2 English_Cornwall
38.8 Israel
Target: German_Baden-Wurttemberg
Distance: 1.1501% / 0.01150139
52.6 Welsh
23.4 Israel
16.0 English_Cornwall
8.0 Latvian
Target: Albanian
Distance: 3.4371% / 0.03437073
71.2 Israel
16.2 English_Cornwall
12.6 Latvian
Target: Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
Distance: 5.2385% / 0.05238467
51.6 Israel
48.4 English_Cornwall
Isolated to two regions: Northern Europe and Southwest Asia
<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/vmcMSu41" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>
My result:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.7226% / 0.01722647
52.0 Danish
26.4 Irish
13.0 Finnish_Southeast
3.2 Israel
2.8 Pakistan
2.6 Armenia
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.8112% / 0.01811192 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.8 Danish
6.0 Afghanistan
2.2 Turkey
Target: Saami_Sweden
Distance: 11.8003% / 0.11800266
85.2 Finnish_East
14.8 Pakistan
In the bipolar system, the Siberian admixture stands out as Pakistani
Gallop
08-03-2024, 08:33 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.7241% / 0.04724065
60.8 English_Cornwall
39.2 Israel
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.7815% / 0.04781484 | ADC: 2x RC
61.0 Welsh
39.0 Israel
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 5.0692% / 0.05069200
57.6 English_Cornwall
42.4 Israel
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 5.1067% / 0.05106670 | ADC: 2x RC
58.0 Welsh
42.0 Israel
Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 5.2539% / 0.05253922
54.0 English_Cornwall
46.0 Israel
Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 5.2539% / 0.05253922 | ADC: 2x RC
54.0 English_Cornwall
46.0 Israel
Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.07051253 Welsh
0.07065872 English_Cornwall
0.07267346 English
0.07603821 Scottish
0.07854013 Irish
0.08236095 Shetlandic
0.08328790 Danish
0.08528743 Norwegian
0.08784933 Icelandic
0.09338481 Swedish
0.09394085 Israel
0.12678068 Finnish_Southwest
0.13123035 Turkey
0.13324951 Finnish_Southeast
0.13676310 Finnish_Central
0.13948724 Estonian
0.14494730 Finnish_North
0.14807898 Finnish_East
0.14808738 Lebanon
0.15197491 Latvian
0.15303742 Syrian:
0.15711081 Armenia
0.16479309 Palestinian:
0.17018471 Jordanian:
0.17157948 Iraqi:
EasternLusitanian
08-03-2024, 10:31 AM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0449% / 0.04485032
50.6 Israel
46.5 English_Cornwall
2.9 Yemen
Distance to: MV_scaled
0.07445838 Israel
0.08663337 Welsh
0.08690235 English_Cornwall
0.08896058 English
0.09225362 Scottish
0.09434948 Irish
0.09706094 Shetlandic
0.09927456 Danish
0.10162630 Norwegian
0.10390883 Icelandic
0.10953591 Swedish
0.12085620 Turkey
0.12765432 Lebanon
0.13371826 Syrian:
0.14142892 Armenia
0.14232273 Finnish_Southwest
0.14384854 Palestinian:
0.14655949 Finnish_Southeast
0.14883199 Jordanian:
0.15094506 Finnish_Central
0.15272763 Iraqi:
0.15947975 Finnish_North
0.16061892 Finnish_East
0.16225579 Iran
0.17190463 United_Arab_Emirates
Abriekman
08-03-2024, 10:51 AM
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 3.8652% / 0.03865152
29.0 Finnish_Southwest
28.0 Finnish_Southeast
19.6 Swedish
12.6 Israel
10.8 Armenia
Distance to: Abriekman_scaled
0.05487243 Swedish
0.05986364 Danish
0.06321929 Norwegian
0.06421558 Shetlandic
0.06547426 Welsh
0.06554753 Finnish_Southwest
0.06572162 Icelandic
0.06613430 Scottish
0.06644850 English
0.06862331 English_Cornwall
0.06979078 Irish
0.07001307 Finnish_Southeast
0.07181843 Finnish_Central
0.08181751 Finnish_North
0.08284983 Finnish_East
0.13192470 Israel
0.14061523 Turkey
0.17546747 Armenia
0.18010715 Lebanon
0.18062222 Iran
0.18573055 Syrian:
0.19779403 Afghanistan
0.19927002 Iraqi:
0.20179593 Palestinian:
0.20736872 Jordanian:
Wend-Kruzek
08-03-2024, 10:54 AM
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.04175552 Swedish
0.04631998 Danish
0.04944385 Norwegian
0.05027065 Icelandic
0.05121655 Shetlandic
0.05139979 Scottish
0.05190977 Welsh
0.05202247 English
0.05401404 English_Cornwall
0.05502232 Finnish_Southwest
0.05546545 Irish
0.05911049 Estonian
0.06743164 Finnish_Central
0.07011127 Latvian
0.07024471 Finnish_Southeast
0.07581080 Finnish_North
0.08440576 Finnish_East
0.13817156 Israel
0.14780805 Turkey
0.18320726 Armenia
0.18865278 Lebanon
0.18935323 Iran
0.19437154 Syrian:
0.20486771 Afghanistan
0.20851980 Iraqi:
Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 2.1899% / 0.02189933
40.0 Latvian
31.8 English_Cornwall
12.8 Finnish_Southwest
8.4 Israel
7.0 Armenia
Abriekman
08-03-2024, 11:07 AM
Distance to: cass
0.03145903 Swedish
0.03848682 Danish
0.04200264 Norwegian
0.04323628 Icelandic
0.04733066 Shetlandic
0.04794161 Scottish
0.04799992 Welsh
0.04860018 English
0.05016656 Estonian
0.05053520 English_Cornwall
0.05154863 Irish
0.05351781 Finnish_Southwest
0.06063548 Finnish_Southeast
0.06211517 Latvian
0.06251796 Finnish_Central
0.07392153 Finnish_North
0.07751572 Finnish_East
0.14410494 Israel
0.15516653 Turkey
0.19099630 Armenia
0.19459649 Lebanon
0.19555048 Iran
0.19920384 Syrian:
0.20828510 Afghanistan
0.21274368 Iraqi:
I am wondering why are Swedes closer to modern Slavs than other Scandinavians? Even closer than Balts. Yea, in your case you are quite NW-shifted but if we take a Pole from southeast, he still would be closer to an average Swede than to an average Lithuanian for instance
I am wondering why are Swedes closer to modern Slavs than other Scandinavians? Even closer than Balts. Yea, in your case you are quite NW-shifted but if we take a Pole from southeast, he still would be closer to an average Swede than to an average Lithuanian for instance
IA and the Middle Ages cross Baltic contacts, both ways?
Gotland in the times of the Vikings was genetically half Slavic.
Viking samples>
https://i.ibb.co/gvgj04c/Vahaduo-Global-25-North-Europe-PCA-48.png (https://ibb.co/gvgj04c)
celticdragongod
08-03-2024, 11:54 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01700078 Scottish
0.01720436 Shetlandic
0.01810836 English_Cornwall
0.01849190 Irish
0.01901970 Welsh
0.01905197 English
0.01936057 Danish
0.02022070 Norwegian
0.02186714 Icelandic
0.02970467 Swedish
0.07039059 Finnish_Southwest
0.08096578 Finnish_Southeast
0.08107166 Finnish_Central
0.09167475 Finnish_North
0.09809348 Finnish_East
0.14040062 Israel
0.15557886 Turkey
0.18907608 Armenia
0.19266718 Lebanon
0.19582804 Iran
0.19793051 Syrian:
0.21101512 Afghanistan
0.21237697 Iraqi:
0.21342291 Palestinian:
0.21834911 Jordanian:
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4077% / 0.01407690
52.8 English_Cornwall
40.2 Shetlandic
7.0 Finnish_Southwest
Grace O'Malley
08-03-2024, 12:18 PM
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01848756 Irish
0.01914511 Icelandic
0.01963605 Scottish
0.02018252 Danish
0.02022706 Norwegian
0.02206251 English
0.02219753 Welsh
0.02454002 English_Cornwall
0.02493637 Shetlandic
0.02919888 Swedish
0.07296981 Finnish_Southwest
0.07831432 Finnish_Southeast
0.08134057 Finnish_Central
0.09272416 Finnish_North
0.09612281 Finnish_East
0.14567434 Israel
0.15896529 Turkey
0.19168671 Armenia
0.19665357 Lebanon
0.19803394 Iran
0.20208717 Syrian:
0.21201061 Afghanistan
0.21556184 Iraqi:
0.21705636 Palestinian:
0.22212531 Jordanian:
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6921% / 0.01692147
54.2 Irish
35.8 Icelandic
9.4 Danish
0.6 Finnish_Southeast
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692356 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Irish
36.8 Icelandic
10.8 Danish
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692356 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.4 Irish
36.8 Icelandic
10.8 Danish
Gallop
08-03-2024, 12:34 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0449% / 0.04485032
50.6 Israel
46.5 English_Cornwall
2.9 Yemen
Distance to: MV_scaled
0.07445838 Israel
0.08663337 Welsh
0.08690235 English_Cornwall
0.08896058 English
0.09225362 Scottish
0.09434948 Irish
0.09706094 Shetlandic
0.09927456 Danish
0.10162630 Norwegian
0.10390883 Icelandic
0.10953591 Swedish
0.12085620 Turkey
0.12765432 Lebanon
0.13371826 Syrian:
0.14142892 Armenia
0.14232273 Finnish_Southwest
0.14384854 Palestinian:
0.14655949 Finnish_Southeast
0.14883199 Jordanian:
0.15094506 Finnish_Central
0.15272763 Iraqi:
0.15947975 Finnish_North
0.16061892 Finnish_East
0.16225579 Iran
0.17190463 United_Arab_Emirates
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08-03-2024, 12:41 PM
Isolated to two regions: Northern Europe and Southwest Asia
<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/vmcMSu41" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>
My result:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.7226% / 0.01722647
52.0 Danish
26.4 Irish
13.0 Finnish_Southeast
3.2 Israel
2.8 Pakistan
2.6 Armenia
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.8112% / 0.01811192 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.8 Danish
6.0 Afghanistan
2.2 Turkey
What does the Afghanistan sample consist of? Is it all of the ethnic groups like hazaras, uzbeks, tajiks etc?
gixajo
08-03-2024, 12:43 PM
It won't be a very popular thread... Any signal outside the North Sea immediately escapes to the nearest coordinate detected by the calculator, i.e. EEF
It is just a way of modeling based on certain references, it does not necessarily imply real Jewish ancestry, don't get nervous.
Itīs funny that nobody questions similar models created with antagonistic components with other European populations.
It is just a way of modeling based on certain references, it does not imply real Jewish ancestry, don't get nervous.
Itīs funny that nobody questions similar models created with antagonistic components with other European populations.
I don't give a shit, that's why I was the first to answer. I just found that the model has its shortcomings
ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 01:13 PM
What does the Afghanistan sample consist of? Is it all of the ethnic groups like hazaras, uzbeks, tajiks etc?
it came from the K105 sample set, so I'm not sure, but you could run it against some sources to find out
ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 01:30 PM
It won't be a very popular thread... Any signal outside the North Sea immediately escapes to the nearest coordinate detected by the calculator, i.e. EEF
Target: French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille
Distance: 2.1783% / 0.02178326
61.0 English_Cornwall
39.0 Israel
Target: Italian_Veneto_Lessinia_(Cimbrian)
Distance: 2.2300% / 0.02230024
61.2 English_Cornwall
38.8 Israel
Target: German_Baden-Wurttemberg
Distance: 1.1501% / 0.01150139
52.6 Welsh
23.4 Israel
16.0 English_Cornwall
8.0 Latvian
Target: Albanian
Distance: 3.4371% / 0.03437073
71.2 Israel
16.2 English_Cornwall
12.6 Latvian
Target: Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
Distance: 5.2385% / 0.05238467
51.6 Israel
48.4 English_Cornwall
This calc will really only work for those who have a regional 2-way, in the final analysis, between the northern parts of Europe and SW Asia
It's an experiment, just a giant, sort of, 2-way, to see which groups would show up and in what proportions
For me it seems accurate based on various calculators, but I'm not sure why Iran isn't showing up
EasternLusitanian
08-03-2024, 02:37 PM
Se ve que soy del pueblo elegido y yo sin ni siquiera haberme dado cuenta jajajaj :picard1:
vader
08-03-2024, 03:54 PM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 4.3233% / 0.04323251
52.6 English_Cornwall
47.0 Israel
0.4 Yemen
Distance to: Algarvio_scaled
0.07671210 Welsh
0.07698481 English_Cornwall
0.07887999 English
0.08231301 Israel
0.08234526 Scottish
0.08512584 Irish
0.08704712 Shetlandic
0.08872239 Danish
0.09088231 Norwegian
0.09398260 Icelandic
0.09823344 Swedish
0.12260269 Turkey
0.13061927 Finnish_Southwest
0.13512852 Finnish_Southeast
0.13738172 Lebanon
0.13931460 Finnish_Central
0.14157823 Syrian:
0.14786602 Finnish_North
0.14935849 Finnish_East
0.14994925 Armenia
0.15322002 Palestinian:
0.15888163 Jordanian:
0.16037821 Iraqi:
0.16745992 Iran
0.18095190 United_Arab_Emirates
Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 28.7702% / 0.28770169
41.0 Finnish_East
29.0 Afghanistan
28.2 Pakistan
1.8 Turkey
Distance to: Wife_scaled
0.29814837 Afghanistan
0.30865205 Pakistan
0.30989801 Turkey
0.31607968 Finnish_East
0.31888172 Finnish_North
0.32258082 Finnish_Central
0.32322324 Finnish_Southeast
0.32765682 Finnish_Southwest
0.33420828 Iran
0.33744278 Norwegian
0.33790826 Swedish
0.33922024 Scottish
0.33945910 Irish
0.34029078 Shetlandic
0.34144624 Israel
0.34169485 Icelandic
0.34174653 English
0.34185549 Danish
0.34221533 Welsh
0.34354413 English_Cornwall
0.34488669 Iraqi:
0.34833869 Syrian:
0.35333669 Oman
0.35638725 United_Arab_Emirates
0.35675616 Lebanon
tk'es
08-03-2024, 05:42 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.6565% / 0.05656487
61.8 Armenia
20.2 Finnish_North
18.0 Afghanistan
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.7176% / 0.05717639 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.6 Armenia
20.2 Afghanistan
20.2 Finnish_Southwest
Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.07059679 Turkey
0.08684920 Iran
0.08743850 Armenia
0.11001032 Israel
0.11895307 Lebanon
0.12288593 Syrian:
0.12827419 Iraqi:
0.13237263 Afghanistan
0.14560999 Palestinian:
0.15283049 Shetlandic
0.15310610 Scottish
0.15327973 English
0.15358507 Jordanian:
0.15377759 Welsh
0.15398519 Irish
0.15452155 United_Arab_Emirates
0.15512776 English_Cornwall
0.15809258 Danish
0.15976006 Norwegian
0.16068743 Icelandic
0.16085705 Oman
0.16236035 Swedish
0.17188781 Pakistan
0.17300016 Finnish_Southwest
0.17768345 Finnish_Central
RyoHazuki
08-03-2024, 06:51 PM
idk why my coords have a small pull to Gulf Arabs. When I get MENA numbers I always get Yemen, Saudi, and North Africans.
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.3056% / 0.01305572
67.6 Welsh
27.8 English_Cornwall
4.6 Israel
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6754% / 0.02675416
85.8 English_Cornwall
9.6 Finnish_Southwest
4.6 Saudi_Arabia
ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 08:27 PM
idk why my coords have a small pull to Gulf Arabs. When I get MENA numbers I always get Yemen, Saudi, and North Africans.
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.3056% / 0.01305572
67.6 Welsh
27.8 English_Cornwall
4.6 Israel
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6754% / 0.02675416
85.8 English_Cornwall
9.6 Finnish_Southwest
4.6 Saudi_Arabia
Are you able to check the actual samples you match with to your farming groups? If not, check out DNAGenics cuz they match you to your most ancient European samples and you can see where they come from. In your case, perhaps it's Yemenite Jews, for example, coming up through that area.
Figaro
08-03-2024, 08:29 PM
Target: CordedMother
Distance: 2.5583% / 0.02558298
51.6 Swedish
18.2 Israel
17.8 Finnish_Southwest
12.4 Finnish_Southeast
Target: CordedFather
Distance: 1.8424% / 0.01842436
49.6 Danish
24.0 English_Cornwall
15.0 Finnish_Southwest
11.4 Israel
ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 08:43 PM
It won't be a very popular thread... Any signal outside the North Sea immediately escapes to the nearest coordinate detected by the calculator, i.e. EEF
Target: French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille
Distance: 2.1783% / 0.02178326
61.0 English_Cornwall
39.0 Israel
Target: Italian_Veneto_Lessinia_(Cimbrian)
Distance: 2.2300% / 0.02230024
61.2 English_Cornwall
38.8 Israel
Target: German_Baden-Wurttemberg
Distance: 1.1501% / 0.01150139
52.6 Welsh
23.4 Israel
16.0 English_Cornwall
8.0 Latvian
Target: Albanian
Distance: 3.4371% / 0.03437073
71.2 Israel
16.2 English_Cornwall
12.6 Latvian
Target: Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
Distance: 5.2385% / 0.05238467
51.6 Israel
48.4 English_Cornwall
One way to overcome it is to try this calc using NOT averages for each group, but the full individual samples of Modern Scaled G25. I'm curious if results look vastly different. I bet they do. I'm never too keen on using averages because none of us are just averages of our groups, in most cases. I'm very close to some Swedish and Norwegian individual samples, but not nearly as close (over 1% more) to averages, which skews the results and typically pushes me more western into Scotland and Ireland.
ScandinavianCelt
08-03-2024, 10:10 PM
You can try it with full samples, not averages, here:
<iframe src="https://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/8EmzWdEn" style="border:none;width:50%"></iframe>
Note: There is no "Israel" or "Oman" in the modern scaled official sample set. I added Ethiopian Jews thinking it might link to Israel, but doesn't show up for me on this calc.
My result:
Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 0.6890% / 0.00689027
34.8 Irish
31.0 Swedish
16.6 Danish
5.0 Norwegian
4.4 English
3.6 Pashtun_Pakistan_Khattak_Nowshera
2.4 Turkish_Crete
0.8 Finnish_Southeast
0.6 Iraqw
0.4 Turkish_Jew
0.4 Turkish_Trabzon
Johnson Reed
08-04-2024, 01:03 AM
I think your Israel sample is Ashkenazi Jews, who are only 1/2 MENA. They shouldn't be used as a West Asian population, any more than you would use Mestizos to represent Spaniards.
ScandinavianCelt
08-04-2024, 02:21 AM
I think your Israel sample is Ashkenazi Jews, who are only 1/2 MENA. They shouldn't be used as a West Asian population, any more than you would use Mestizos to represent Spaniards.
Do you have a better Modern Scaled Average for Israel? Please share if so.
Figaro
08-04-2024, 02:24 AM
Do you have a better Modern Scaled Average for Israel? Please share if so.
Samaritan samples would probably not be a bad choice? Wasn’t there some making the rounds in the last year?
Johnson Reed
08-04-2024, 02:24 AM
Do you have a better Modern Scaled Average for Israel? Please share if so.
Use this
Samaritan,0.085367,0.148674,-0.057398,-0.092508,-0.009602,-0.035029,-0.002209,-0.008169,0.016321,0.008237,0.009159,-0.009921,0.020485,0.011863,-0.005537,0.002121,-0.011239,0.001014,0.002112,-0.003652,-0.000524,0.003116,0.000567,-0.00294,0.004646
ScandinavianCelt
08-04-2024, 02:53 AM
Samaritan samples would probably not be a bad choice? Wasn’t there some making the rounds in the last year?
Use this
Samaritan,0.085367,0.148674,-0.057398,-0.092508,-0.009602,-0.035029,-0.002209,-0.008169,0.016321,0.008237,0.009159,-0.009921,0.020485,0.011863,-0.005537,0.002121,-0.011239,0.001014,0.002112,-0.003652,-0.000524,0.003116,0.000567,-0.00294,0.004646
I swapped it into the original calc here. I don't show it for myself with either Ancestry or 23andMe, but my Mom's coords show Samaritan:
Target: Mother
Distance: 1.0883% / 0.01088263
37.6 Icelandic
35.2 Shetlandic
15.4 Finnish_Southwest
5.4 Samaritan
3.8 Armenia
2.6 Pakistan
I show these for SW Asia:
Target: SC_Ancestry_Official_scaled
Distance: 1.3859% / 0.01385853
41.2 Irish
38.8 Danish
6.0 Finnish_Southeast
4.4 Finnish_East
4.4 Syrian
3.2 English
2.0 Pakistan
Target: SC_23andMe_Official_scaled
Distance: 2.2021% / 0.02202053
61.8 Danish
15.2 Finnish_Southeast
14.2 Irish
5.8 Armenia
3.0 Pakistan
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If I add in just Ashkenazi-Germany with Samaritan, it shows up for me. IllustrativeDNA gives me something like 9.4% Erfurt Jew on some calc there, which is why I put the German sample for Ashkenazi.
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.7216% / 0.01721613
52.8 Danish
25.8 Irish
12.8 Finnish_Southeast
3.4 Ashkenazi_Germany
3.0 Pakistan
2.2 Armenia
If I add in all the Ashkenazi averaged samples, it shifts to France:
Target: SC_Averaged_Official_Scaled
Distance: 1.7191% / 0.01719114
52.0 Danish
26.0 Irish
13.2 Finnish_Southeast
4.0 Ashkenazi_France
3.0 Pakistan
1.8 Armenia
sacha
08-07-2024, 05:23 PM
A bit silly but I’ll do it anyway.
Target: ANCESTRY_SACHA_scaled
Distance: 2.7108% / 0.02710821
78.0 Israel(Samaritan)
15.2 Armenia
6.8 English_Cornwall
Target: ANCESTRY_SACHA_scaled
Distance: 2.7986% / 0.02798585 | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.8 Israel(Samaritan)
26.8 Lebanon
6.4 English_Cornwall
Duan
08-07-2024, 09:16 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 4.8598% / 0.04859803
39.2 Finnish_Southwest
28.2 Swedish
20.4 Israel(Samaritan)
6.4 Armenia
5.8 English_Cornwall
Added some Baltic for better distance
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 4.1528% / 0.04152792
52.2 Estonian
21.4 Israel(Samaritan)
19.6 English_Cornwall
6.8 Armenia
Eurafricanid
08-07-2024, 09:34 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 3.9743% / 0.03974342
68.2 English_Cornwall
31.0 Israel(Samaritan)
0.8 Welsh
(It's the same with ADC - 0.5x)
Distance to: Eurafricanid-EU
0.07529390 Welsh
0.07587335 English_Cornwall
0.07717826 English
0.08133793 Scottish
0.08413486 Irish
0.08675235 Shetlandic
0.08880975 Danish
0.09144585 Norwegian
0.09350004 Icelandic
0.09939825 Swedish
0.11873895 Turkey
0.13069478 Lebanon
0.13353142 Finnish_Southwest
0.13863980 Armenia
0.14003058 Finnish_Southeast
0.14054961 Syrian:
0.14359416 Finnish_Central
0.14921928 Israel(Samaritan)
0.15201238 Finnish_North
0.15220164 Palestinian:
0.15516859 Finnish_East
0.15763778 Jordanian:
0.15894538 Iraqi:
0.16114899 Iran
0.17695487 United_Arab_Emirates
Upsilander
08-14-2024, 08:22 AM
Target: Upsilander23andme
Distance: 2.7742% / 0.02774241
74.6 Welsh
22.2 Swedish
1.8 Armenia
1.4 Finnish_Southwest
Target: Upsilander23andme
Distance: 2.7928% / 0.02792806 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.8 Welsh
19.2 Swedish
Distance to: Upsilander23andme
0.02856696 Welsh
0.03013799 English
0.03107194 Danish
0.03126488 English_Cornwall
0.03227601 Scottish
0.03480474 Shetlandic
0.03545037 Norwegian
0.03562387 Irish
0.03635131 Icelandic
0.03762686 Swedish
0.07603619 Finnish_Southwest
0.08329875 Finnish_Southeast
0.08636111 Finnish_Central
0.09768658 Finnish_North
0.10132721 Finnish_East
0.15527103 Turkey
0.18487234 Armenia
0.18897022 Lebanon
0.19699709 Syrian:
0.19784662 Iran
0.21004293 Israel(Samaritan)
0.21179879 Palestinian:
0.21323185 Iraqi:
0.21759501 Jordanian:
0.22089131 Afghanistan
0.23157201 United_Arab_Emirates
0.23791487 Oman
0.25050240 Saudi_Arabia
0.25702069 Pakistan
0.25789923 Yemen
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