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Athalafuns

08-03-2024, 08:12 PM

Not mine, but from here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/159/bronze-age-calculator-2023-davide-von-gauss.htm

Post no ADC and/or R5P if you like, and distances.

Target: RNB27
Distance: 0.9854% / 0.00985404
26.4 Iberia_BA
23.2 France_BA
15.2 Helladic
14.4 BritishIslands_BA
5.6 preCimmerian_maybe
3.0 Dinaric_BA
2.8 NorthAfrica_EN
2.6 Provence_BA
2.4 TransCaspian_Iranic_BA
1.6 Nordic_BA
1.2 Occitania_BA
0.8 Dinka
0.8 HUN_BA

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.1188% / 0.01118810 | R5P
43.6 BritishIslands_BA
31.0 Iberia_BA
14.8 Helladic
6.8 Armenia_BA
3.8 NorthAfrica_EN

https://i.postimg.cc/T2mkSCy4/BA-Distances.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Beowulf

08-03-2024, 08:15 PM

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.1725% / 0.01172524 | R5P
37.2 NLD_BA
29.4 Iberia_BA
23.6 Helladic
5.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
4.6 Baltic_BA

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.2911% / 0.01291108 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.2 Tumulus
18.4 UpperMycenaean
17.8 BritishIslands_BA
12.6 Iberia_BA
12.0 LateMinoan
1.0 NorthAfrica_EN

Figaro

08-03-2024, 08:20 PM

Target: CordedFather
Distance: 1.9844% / 0.01984371 | R5P
52.8 NLD_BA
18.2 Baltic_BA
14.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
11.8 Helladic
2.4 Levant_BA_e

Target: CordedFather
Distance: 2.0572% / 0.02057199 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 NLD_BA
21.2 Baltic_BA
18.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
17.6 UpperMycenaean
1.6 BritishIslands_BA

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 1.5201% / 0.01520099 | R5P
33.0 Baltic_BA
22.4 Helladic
22.2 POL_EBA
17.8 NLD_BA
4.6 FIN_Levanluhta_IA

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 1.7784% / 0.01778430 | ADC: 0.25x RC
24.8 Baltic_BA
19.4 HUN_BA
18.2 Dinaric_BA
16.0 Tumulus
12.6 GRC_Logkas_MBA
4.6 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
4.4 Unetice

Albannach

08-03-2024, 08:26 PM

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 2.1961% / 0.02196111 | R5P
59.4 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
29.6 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
4.6 Bell_Beaker_ITA:I2478
4.0 Helladic:GRC_Perachora_BA:BC_2450_k4c
2.4 Baltic_BA:Baltic_LTU_BA:BC900_k2

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.02312555 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.02717498 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.02814274 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.03365959 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.03366438 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.03537781 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.03539634 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
0.03697845 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.03709037 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.03739819 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.03851332 BritishIslands_BA:Orkney_MBA:BC1400_k4c
0.03871512 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.03950137 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.04084535 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2
0.04134032 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.04229815 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.04295070 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.04336445 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.04346645 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.04353634 BritishIslands_BA:IRL_BA:BC1950_1630_k3c
0.04443017 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.04522264 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04590670 France_BA:FRA_Alsace_EBA_bigmix:BC2100_1700_k7c
0.04825712 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.04899883 Alpine_EBA:CHE_EBA:BC2150_1600_k4c

vader

08-03-2024, 08:28 PM

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 0.8773% / 0.00877333 | R5P
39.8 Iberia_BA
27.2 Mycenaean
27.2 NLD_BA
3.6 NorthAfrica_EN
2.2 ETH_4500BP

Distance to: Algarvio_scaled
0.03537277 Italia_BA:ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA:k2
0.03942488 Italia_BA:ITA_Broion_BA:BC1700_1500_k3c
0.03978107 HUN_BA:HUN_BA:BC2300_2050_k2
0.04022250 Dinaric_BA:Dalmatia_HRV_MBA:BC1750_1450_k8c
0.04022250 Dinaric_BA:Dalmatia_HRV_MBA:BC1750_1450_k8c
0.04142471 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1150_k16c
0.04211985 SRB_BA:BC1950_k7c
0.04234790 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1500_k7c
0.04468190 Provence_BA:FRA_SouthEast_EBA:BC2100_B_k4c
0.04620607 Italia_BA:ITA_PianSultano_BA:k4c
0.04661615 Dinaric_BA:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.04661615 Dinaric_BA:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.04784313 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Cetina_BA:BC1800_k6c
0.04814054 Occitania_BA:FRA_Occitanie_EMBA:BC2400_1650_k6c
0.04878296 Iberia_BA:Baleares_LBA:k4c
0.04935749 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Vatya:BC1750_1600_k4c
0.05038162 Alpine_EBA:DEU_Lech_EBA:BC2100_1650_k17c
0.05104304 Bell_Beaker_ITA:I2478
0.05197626 ROU_BA:ROU_Arman_BA:BC2000_k6c
0.05277257 Dinaric_BA:MNE_LBA:BC1350_1150_k10c
0.05298813 ROU_BA:ROU_ArmanPTV_BA:BC3000_2000_k8c
0.05304883 Occitania_BA:FRA_Occitanie_SW_EMBA:BC1900_1650_k3c
0.05345228 Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:BC1700_1150_A_k8c
0.05364086 BGR_EBA:BGR_Smyadovo_EBA:BC3000_k2
0.05372918 Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:BC1700_1300_total_k12c

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 1.6119% / 0.01611896 | R5P
49.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
22.2 NorthAfrica_EN
16.6 France_BA
8.8 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
3.0 Yoruba

Distance to: Wife_scaled
0.27418093 FIN_Levanluhta_IA:AD550_k3c
0.31308405 preCimmerian_maybe:TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA:BC1500_k3c
0.31961272 preCimmerian_maybe:UZB_Kashkarchi_BA:BC1100_k2
0.31991068 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA:BC1800_1700_k7c
0.32052865 MDA_BA:MDA_MultiCordonedWare_MBA:BC1950_k2
0.32223824 MDA_BA:MDA_CrihanaVeche_BA:BC2000_k2
0.32249418 preCimmerian_maybe:UZB_Kokcha_BA:BC2000_1400_k3c
0.32323046 MDA_BA:BC2050_1950_k5c
0.32395189 MDA_BA:MDA_Catacomb_MBA:BC2500_k2
0.32553385 Nordic_BA:Nordic_BattleAxe_SGC:BC2550_2250_k6c
0.32624630 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA:BC1875_k15c
0.32674528 RUS_Catacomb:BC2600_2300_k4c
0.32692946 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.32747555 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.32768785 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.32822164 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.32842095 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA:BC_1950_k2
0.32884677 RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA:BC1725_1525_k10c
0.32897118 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.32898605 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.32918257 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.32951790 POL_EBA:POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture:BC2160_k2
0.33111735 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.33205077 MDA_BA:MDA_Sabatinovka_LBA:I10438___R-Z645___BC_1500___Coverage_26.49%
0.33205231 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2

EasternLusitanian

08-03-2024, 08:59 PM

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 1.1516% / 0.01151559 | R5P
33.2 Italia_BA
29.0 BritishIslands_BA
17.4 Anatolia_BA
12.4 NorthAfrica_EN
8.0 Iberia_BA

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 1.4169% / 0.01416939 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.0 Italia_BA
25.4 Alpine_EBA
15.4 Dinaric_BA
7.0 Levant_BA_e
6.6 NorthAfrica_EN
2.6 Armenia_BA
0.0 Iberia_BA

Literally 0% iberian with ADC 0.25x

Lemurian

08-03-2024, 09:25 PM

Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 1.3927% / 0.01392676 | R5P
37.6 Mycenaean
19.6 Baltic_BA
19.4 Helladic
14.0 MDA_BA
9.4 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA

Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 1.2977% / 0.01297718
22.4 Mycenaean
22.2 Baltic_BA
18.6 Helladic
9.8 Anatolia_BA
9.8 RUS_Catacomb
9.6 Dinaric_BA
3.4 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
3.2 MDA_BA
0.8 Han
0.2 TransCaspian_Iranic_BA

Distance to: Lemurian_scaled
0.03511395 GRC_Logkas_MBA:BC2300_k2
0.04000278 Dinaric_BA:MNE_LBA:BC1350_1150_k10c
0.04190291 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Cetina_BA:BC1800_k6c
0.04300203 SRB_BA:BC1950_k7c
0.04563802 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1500_k7c
0.04578557 Dinaric_BA:Dalmatia_HRV_MBA:BC1750_1450_k8c
0.04578557 Dinaric_BA:Dalmatia_HRV_MBA:BC1750_1450_k8c
0.04668846 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1150_k16c
0.05065521 HUN_BA:HUN_BA:BC2300_2050_k2
0.05217537 Dinaric_BA:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.05217537 Dinaric_BA:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.05528142 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Vatya:BC1750_1600_k4c
0.05917107 SVN_BA:SVN_LBA:BC849_624_k2
0.06287332 Alpine_EBA:DEU_Lech_EBA:BC2100_1650_k17c
0.06293277 Tumulus:CZE_MBA_Tumulus:BC1375_k4c
0.06590627 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.06775882 UpperMycenaean:MYG:BC1600_1450_k7c
0.06851478 LateMinoan:KRO:BC1200_k2
0.06971391 Italia_BA:ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA:k2
0.07093937 HUN_BA:HUN_LBA:BC1250_900_k4c
0.07174681 Provence_BA:FRA_SouthEast_EBA:BC2100_B_k4c
0.07292915 Bell_Beaker_ITA:I2478
0.07350392 BGR_EBA:BGR_Smyadovo_EBA:BC3000_k2
0.07398090 Alpine_EBA:DEU_Singen_EBA:2100_1800_k11c
0.07423303 ROU_BA:ROU_Arman_BA:BC2000_k6c

ScandinavianCelt

08-03-2024, 09:42 PM

Ancestry vs 23andMe: both official, but very different:

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Ancestry_Scaled
Distance: 1.3101% / 0.01310055
43.8 NLD_BA
39.0 BritishIslands_BA
9.0 Helladic
2.8 Baltic_BA
2.8 UpperMycenaean
1.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
0.8 NorthAfrica_EN

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 2.1181% / 0.02118100
71.4 NLD_BA
12.2 Helladic
7.4 Baltic_BA
4.6 BritishIslands_BA
1.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
1.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
1.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
0.4 NorthAfrica_EN

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and, distances compared:

Distance to: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02014710 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.02198977 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.02449232 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.02590717 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.02672746 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.02687892 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.02692336 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.02804071 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.02835364 BritishIslands_BA:Orkney_MBA:BC1400_k4c
0.02879713 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.02994218 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.03093875 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.03128633 BritishIslands_BA:IRL_BA:BC1950_1630_k3c
0.03255619 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.03281707 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.03360648 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.03406436 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.03440449 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.03491113 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
0.03579067 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.03723899 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.03737073 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.03788202 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2
0.03821068 France_BA:FRA_Alsace_EBA_bigmix:BC2100_1700_k7c
0.03953927 Nordic_BA:Nordic_BattleAxe_SGC:BC2550_2250_k6c

Distance to: SC_IllustrativeDNA_23andMe_Scaled
0.02987868 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.03075452 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.03130487 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.03145367 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.03261188 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.03399406 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.03437508 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.03475562 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.03503247 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.03524700 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.03614032 BritishIslands_BA:Orkney_MBA:BC1400_k4c
0.03623176 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.03723525 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.03733023 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.03745642 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.03778861 BritishIslands_BA:IRL_BA:BC1950_1630_k3c
0.03878572 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.03934840 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.04048994 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.04064309 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.04069372 Nordic_BA:Nordic_BattleAxe_SGC:BC2550_2250_k6c
0.04122320 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony:BC1950_k2
0.04151262 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
0.04282406 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04426338 POL_EBA:POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture:BC2160_k2

Athalafuns

08-03-2024, 09:45 PM

both official, but very different
Which one do you think is more accurate?

Eurafricanid

08-03-2024, 09:47 PM

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 0.9127% / 0.00912736
39.8 Iberia_BA
14.2 Levant_BA
12.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA
9.0 HUN_BA
8.2 France_BA
6.4 MDA_BA
2.6 BritishIslands_BA
2.6 Minoan
2.4 Anatolia_BA
1.8 Mycenaean
0.4 ITA_Copper
0.2 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.5394% / 0.01539392 | ADC: 0.5x RC
28.0 Italia_BA
24.0 Bell_Beaker_ITA
21.4 Dinaric_BA
17.4 HUN_BA
9.2 Levant_BA

Distance to: Eurafricanid-EU
0.02757415 HUN_BA:HUN_BA:BC2300_2050_k2
0.03016110 Dinaric_BA:Dalmatia_HRV_MBA:BC1750_1450_k8c
0.03016110 Dinaric_BA:Dalmatia_HRV_MBA:BC1750_1450_k8c
0.03067491 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1500_k7c
0.03082994 Italia_BA:ITA_ReginaMargherita_BA:k2
0.03165525 SRB_BA:BC1950_k7c
0.03460072 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1150_k16c
0.03496613 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Cetina_BA:BC1800_k6c
0.03574130 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Vatya:BC1750_1600_k4c
0.03724422 Dinaric_BA:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.03724422 Dinaric_BA:Istria_HRV_MBA:BC1375_k3c
0.03927571 Italia_BA:ITA_Broion_BA:BC1700_1500_k3c
0.03973914 Dinaric_BA:MNE_LBA:BC1350_1150_k10c
0.04016523 Italia_BA:ITA_PianSultano_BA:k4c
0.04193866 Bell_Beaker_ITA:I2478
0.04248168 Provence_BA:FRA_SouthEast_EBA:BC2100_B_k4c
0.04466431 BGR_EBA:BGR_Smyadovo_EBA:BC3000_k2
0.04521538 Occitania_BA:FRA_Occitanie_EMBA:BC2400_1650_k6c
0.04737785 GRC_Logkas_MBA:BC2300_k2
0.04828363 Alpine_EBA:DEU_Lech_EBA:BC2100_1650_k17c
0.04938771 Occitania_BA:FRA_Occitanie_SW_EMBA:BC1900_1650_k3c
0.05068320 ROU_BA:ROU_Arman_BA:BC2000_k6c
0.05107224 ROU_BA:ROU_ArmanPTV_BA:BC3000_2000_k8c
0.05254950 Iberia_BA:Baleares_LBA:k4c
0.05361930 Tumulus:CZE_MBA_Tumulus:BC1375_k4c

celticdragongod

08-03-2024, 09:56 PM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02685760 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.02728289 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.02854098 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.03247845 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.03420076 BritishIslands_BA:Orkney_MBA:BC1400_k4c
0.03528928 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.03530671 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2
0.03777798 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
0.03826880 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.03859283 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.03881634 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.03936475 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.03961598 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.03988000 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.03997411 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.04064247 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.04172472 France_BA:FRA_Alsace_EBA_bigmix:BC2100_1700_k7c
0.04191151 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.04220102 BritishIslands_BA:IRL_BA:BC1950_1630_k3c
0.04239635 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.04259307 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.04331513 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.04473133 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.04604812 Alpine_EBA:CHE_EBA:BC2150_1600_k4c
0.04614854 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0788% / 0.02078766
66.8 NLD_BA
9.0 Bell_Beaker_ITA
8.2 Helladic
5.2 Unetice
4.2 Baltic_BA
3.8 BritishIslands_BA
2.8 Iberia_BA

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0840% / 0.02084042 | R5P
73.0 NLD_BA
12.2 Bell_Beaker_ITA
8.2 Helladic
5.0 Baltic_BA
1.6 Iberia_BA

celticdragongod

08-03-2024, 09:57 PM

ScandinavianCelt

08-03-2024, 10:17 PM

Which one do you think is more accurate?

I'm guessing they are both accurate for the SNPs they gather and measure, which is why using an average would make most sense. Apparently 23andMe is using the better chip nowadays and my test with them is on that chip, so I don't know really.

This is what it looks like when using the averaged coords:

aggregate:

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 1.6544% / 0.01654413
64.4 NLD_BA
15.4 BritishIslands_BA
12.2 Helladic
4.4 Baltic_BA
2.2 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
0.6 NorthAfrica_EN
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
0.2 Dinaric_BA
0.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA

not aggregate:

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 1.6551% / 0.01655129
64.2 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
15.0 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
11.8 Helladic:GRC_Manika_Helladic_EBA:Mik15___BC_2300__ _Coverage_94.19%
4.2 Baltic_BA:Baltic_LVA_BA:750_480_k8c
2.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA:AD550_k3c
1.2 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Cetina_BA:BC1800_k6c
0.6 NorthAfrica_EN:MAR_EN_tf:taforalt_alike_BC5600_480 0_k5c
0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:BC3050_2550_k4c
0.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA:BC_1950_k2
0.2 RUS_Catacomb:BC2600_2300_k4c

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 1.6849% / 0.01684870 | R5P
63.6 NLD_BA
16.2 BritishIslands_BA
13.0 Helladic
4.0 Baltic_BA
3.2 FIN_Levanluhta_IA

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Distance to: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
0.02489074 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.02598939 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.02733536 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.02829799 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.02847866 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.02866026 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.03043172 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.03080805 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.03151486 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.03160224 BritishIslands_BA:Orkney_MBA:BC1400_k4c
0.03171088 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.03203522 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.03386861 BritishIslands_BA:IRL_BA:BC1950_1630_k3c
0.03421113 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.03478311 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.03488693 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.03513292 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.03681342 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.03685526 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.03761274 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
0.03824889 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.03941247 Nordic_BA:Nordic_BattleAxe_SGC:BC2550_2250_k6c
0.03948305 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04062638 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony:BC1950_k2
0.04150530 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2

Pedro Ruben

08-03-2024, 10:17 PM

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.3321% / 0.01332105 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.0 GRC_Logkas_MBA
21.8 BritishIslands_BA
20.2 Bell_Beaker_ITA
17.8 Iberia_BA
10.6 NorthAfrica_EN
2.6 Gambian

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3631% / 0.01363138 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.6 Bell_Beaker_ITA
16.6 HUN_BA
14.6 Tumulus
8.8 NorthAfrica_EN
4.0 Dinaric_BA
2.8 Iberia_BA
2.0 Gambian
0.6 ETH_4500BP

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.6295% / 0.01629483 | ADC: 0.25x RC
28.8 Alpine_EBA
28.4 Dinaric_BA
22.6 Iberia_BA
9.2 Bell_Beaker_ITA
5.4 NorthAfrica_EN
3.4 Italia_BA
2.2 Dinka

gixajo

08-03-2024, 10:35 PM

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4961% / 0.01496114 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.2 Iberia_BA
33.4 Dinaric_BA
11.0 France_BA
8.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA
4.8 NorthAfrica_EN
3.2 Italia_BA

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.3570% / 0.01356967 | R5P
51.8 Iberia_BA
30.0 BritishIslands_BA
11.4 Helladic
4.0 Levant_BA
2.8 NorthAfrica_EN

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Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7840% / 0.01783996 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.2 Iberia_BA
22.4 Provence_BA
12.2 Dinaric_BA
12.0 Bell_Beaker_ITA
8.6 France_BA
4.6 Levant_BA_e
4.2 NorthAfrica_EN
1.8 Occitania_BA

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7121% / 0.01712067 | R5P
42.6 Iberia_BA
34.4 BritishIslands_BA
11.6 Italia_BA
10.0 Levant_BA_e
1.4 Mycenaean

cass

08-03-2024, 10:37 PM

Distance to: cass
0.02650123 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony:BC1950_k2
0.04215752 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.04312211 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.04434458 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.04537989 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.04576871 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.04758620 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.04779282 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.04805659 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.04914723 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04978995 HUN_BA:HUN_LBA_Halva:BC1250_k2
0.05026843 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.05067242 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.05088803 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.05105249 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.05160793 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.05178724 HUN_BA:HUN_LBA:BC1250_900_k4c
0.05312988 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.05327429 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.05388948 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.05423108 Nordic_BA:Nordic_BattleAxe_SGC:BC2550_2250_k6c
0.05498974 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.05564289 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.05616840 POL_EBA:BB2200_1900_k2
0.05674200 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2

Target: cass
Distance: 1.2440% / 0.01243981
35.0 Baltic_BA
27.4 NLD_BA
14.8 Helladic
10.4 HUN_BA
5.2 BritishIslands_BA
2.8 France_BA
2.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA
0.8 Han
0.6 Mycenaean
0.6 RUS_Catacomb

Target: cass
Distance: 1.3329% / 0.01332876 | R5P
37.4 Baltic_BA
27.6 BritishIslands_BA :confused:
21.2 Tumulus
7.6 Helladic
6.2 Anatolia_BA

2nd run>

Target: cass
Distance: 1.3312% / 0.01331196 | R5P
37.8 Baltic_BA
29.6 NLD_BA
14.8 Helladic
9.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
8.0 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA

ScandinavianCelt

08-03-2024, 10:39 PM

this is what my top NLD piece looks like on the K105:

Target: NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
Distance: 2.4112% / 0.02411166
47.6 Norway
40.2 Iceland
7.8 Latvia
1.8 Pakistan
1.4 Afghanistan
0.6 Papua_New_Guinea
0.4 Finland
0.2 South_Africa

And piece two K105:

Target: BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
Distance: 2.1838% / 0.02183804
86.6 Iceland
4.8 Finland
3.4 Latvia
2.0 Pakistan
1.4 Peru
1.0 South_Sudan
0.8 India

Gallop

08-03-2024, 11:00 PM

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.0689% / 0.01068915
42.2 Iberia_BA
19.6 BritishIslands_BA
12.8 France_BA
7.6 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
6.0 SVN_BA
2.8 NorthAfrica_EN
2.6 Minoan
2.0 ITA_Copper_North_RmBr_BC3200_2750_k4c
1.8 Sardinia_BA
1.4 Helladic
1.2 ETH_4500BP

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.7745% / 0.01774474
19.0 France_BA
17.8 Tumulus
11.4 Iberia_BA
11.2 Sardinia_BA
7.0 Helladic
7.0 SVN_BA
5.0 BritishIslands_BA
4.4 Provence_BA
4.0 NorthAfrica_EN
3.8 BGR_EBA
3.0 ITA_Copper
2.2 Baltic_BA
1.6 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
1.0 ETH_4500BP
0.8 Gambian
0.8 preCimmerian_maybe

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 1.3862% / 0.01386215
28.4 Tumulus
22.8 Iberia_BA
16.6 ITA_Copper
15.6 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
6.6 NorthAfrica_EN
3.4 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
3.2 France_BA
1.2 Minoan
0.8 ETH_4500BP
0.8 Iranic_BA
0.6 Sardinia_BA

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.9628% / 0.02962842 | ADC: 1x RC
38.2 HUN_BA
31.6 Iberia_BA
30.2 Provence_BA

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.3546% / 0.03354624 | ADC: 1x RC
40.4 Iberia_BA:Baleares_LBA:k4c
30.0 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1150_k16c
29.6 HUN_BA:HUN_BA:BC2300_2050_k2

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 3.0434% / 0.03043438 | ADC: 1x RC
54.2 HUN_BA:HUN_BA:BC2300_2050_k2
45.8 Iberia_BA:Baleares_LBA:k4c

cass

08-03-2024, 11:24 PM

I'm guessing they are both accurate for the SNPs they gather and measure, which is why using an average would make most sense. Apparently 23andMe is using the better chip nowadays and my test with them is on that chip, so I don't know really.

This is what it looks like when using the averaged coords:

aggregate:

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 1.6544% / 0.01654413
64.4 NLD_BA
15.4 BritishIslands_BA
12.2 Helladic
4.4 Baltic_BA
2.2 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
0.6 NorthAfrica_EN
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
0.2 Dinaric_BA
0.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA

not aggregate:

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 1.6551% / 0.01655129
64.2 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
15.0 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
11.8 Helladic:GRC_Manika_Helladic_EBA:Mik15___BC_2300__ _Coverage_94.19%
4.2 Baltic_BA:Baltic_LVA_BA:750_480_k8c
2.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA:AD550_k3c
1.2 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Cetina_BA:BC1800_k6c
0.6 NorthAfrica_EN:MAR_EN_tf:taforalt_alike_BC5600_480 0_k5c
0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:BC3050_2550_k4c
0.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA:BC_1950_k2
0.2 RUS_Catacomb:BC2600_2300_k4c

Target: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
Distance: 1.6849% / 0.01684870 | R5P
63.6 NLD_BA
16.2 BritishIslands_BA
13.0 Helladic
4.0 Baltic_BA
3.2 FIN_Levanluhta_IA

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Distance to: SC_IllustrativeDNA_Average2datasets_Scaled
0.02489074 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.02598939 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.02733536 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.02829799 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.02847866 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.02866026 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.03043172 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.03080805 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.03151486 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_CA_EBA:BC2200_1750_k7c
0.03160224 BritishIslands_BA:Orkney_MBA:BC1400_k4c
0.03171088 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.03203522 NLD_BA:NLD_EBA_MBA:BC1850_1300_k13c
0.03386861 BritishIslands_BA:IRL_BA:BC1950_1630_k3c
0.03421113 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.03478311 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.03488693 France_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_Alsace:BC2400_2200_k2c
0.03513292 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_England:BC2400_2000_ k22c
0.03681342 BritishIslands_BA:Bell_Beaker_Scotland:BC2300_k2
0.03685526 NLD_BA:BBC:Bell_Beaker_NLD:BC2450_2000_k11c
0.03761274 NLD_BA:NLD_MBA_LBA:1250_860_k4c
0.03824889 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.03941247 Nordic_BA:Nordic_BattleAxe_SGC:BC2550_2250_k6c
0.03948305 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04062638 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony:BC1950_k2
0.04150530 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2

Any idea why traces of the Helladic population appear in everyone? Is this secondary Neolithization?

RyoHazuki

08-04-2024, 03:06 AM

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.9332% / 0.00933219
36.2 BritishIslands_BA
32.0 NLD_BA
11.0 ITA_Copper
7.4 Baltic_BA
6.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
3.6 Helladic
3.0 Iberia_BA

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.8736% / 0.02873600
55.8 BritishIslands_BA
37.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
3.0 Baltic_BA
3.0 Helladic
0.4 ETH_4500BP

Kostek

08-04-2024, 10:44 AM

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 1.9580% / 0.01958002 | R5P
58.0 Baltic_BA
17.6 Helladic
11.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA
11.2 MDA_BA
1.8 BritishIslands_BA

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.1021% / 0.02102053 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.0 Baltic_BA
28.6 GRC_Logkas_MBA
11.4 Bell_Beaker_ITA

Dušan

08-04-2024, 11:39 AM

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.5395% / 0.01539548
44.2 Baltic_BA
27.4 Helladic
13.4 Dinaric_BA
7.2 GRC_Logkas_MBA
5.8 RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA
1.2 Nganassan
0.4 Han
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6907% / 0.01690747 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Baltic_BA
38.2 GRC_Logkas_MBA
20.2 Minoan
1.2 Nganassan

noricum

08-04-2024, 08:57 PM

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.6903% / 0.01690260 | R5P
35.6 Baltic_BA
22.6 Helladic
17.8 RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA
12.2 BritishIslands_BA
11.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04408156 Tumulus:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:BC1050_k20c
0.04690127 Tumulus:CZE_MBA_Tumulus:BC1375_k4c
0.04754415 HUN_BA:HUN_LBA:BC1250_900_k4c
0.04807478 HUN_BA:HUN_MBA_Fuzesabony:BC1950_k2
0.05357074 Provence_BA:Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_Provence:BC2100_k2
0.05406353 SVN_BA:SVN_LBA:BC849_624_k2
0.05452746 Unetice:DEU_Unetice_EBA:BC2150_1850_k7c
0.05488099 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_LBA:BC1130_860_k5c
0.05555494 BritishIslands_BA:England_MBA:BC1500_1000_k27c
0.05621464 BritishIslands_BA:England_LBA:BC1065_850_k9c
0.05621729 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_C:BC2000_1700_k28c
0.05693485 Unetice:CZE_EBA_Unetice:BC1900_k21c
0.05717532 Alpine_EBA:DEU_Lech_EBA:BC2100_1650_k17c
0.05793919 Alpine_EBA:DEU_Singen_EBA:2100_1800_k11c
0.05861183 Alpine_EBA:CHE_EBA:BC2150_1600_k4c
0.05893420 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1150_k16c
0.05976684 BritishIslands_BA:Scotland_MBA:BC1400_1250_k4c
0.06012446 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:DNK_SWE_BC2700_1300_k10c
0.06047072 Unetice:POL_Unetice_EBA:BC1850_k2
0.06059423 BritishIslands_BA:England_C_EBA:BC2200_1700_k20c
0.06072464 France_BA:FRA_Alsace_EBA_bigmix:BC2100_1700_k7c
0.06144012 Unetice:CZE_Unetice_preC:BC2300_2000_k28c
0.06222976 Nordic_BA:Nordic_EBA:SWE_BC2700_1750_k5c
0.06224520 HUN_BA:HUN_LBA_Halva:BC1250_k2
0.06299082 Dinaric_BA:HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:BC1500_k7c

Kenshiro

08-05-2024, 07:44 AM

Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.3722% / 0.01372239 | R5P | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.0 Minoan
26.8 MDA_BA
22.8 Helladic
13.2 ROU_BA
4.2 TransCaspian_Iranic_BA

Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.3782% / 0.01378201 | R5P
32.4 Minoan
26.6 MDA_BA
23.2 Helladic
13.2 ROU_BA
4.6 Iranic_BA
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.7225% / 0.01722487 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 GRC_Logkas_MBA
14.8 BGR_EBA
14.2 Dinaric_BA
12.8 LateMinoan
12.2 ArmenoIranic_IA
7.4 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
Without Logkas
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 1.6796% / 0.01679580 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.0 Dinaric_BA
27.6 SRB_BA
16.0 LateMinoan
12.4 ArmenoIranic_IA
10.0 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA

yngviktor

08-07-2024, 01:06 AM

Target: Viktor
Distance: 0.7904% / 0.00790398 | R5P
37.8 Baltic_BA
22.8 Helladic
21.0 Tumulus
10.2 UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA
8.2 Anatolia_BA

sacha

08-07-2024, 05:30 PM

Bizarre naming conventions, considering TUR_Alalakh_MLBA is being grouped as Mesopotamian despite it being genetically distinct and far closer to the Levant_BA samples.

Target: ANCESTRY_SACHA_scaled
Distance: 2.1273% / 0.02127303 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.8 Mesopotamia_BA
24.0 Levant_BA
14.6 UpperMycenaean
5.6 Helladic

Antioch is genetically Anatolian/Levantine as it is a historically Syrian city, it’s not Mesopotamian.

Target: ANCESTRY_SACHA_scaled
Distance: 2.1273% / 0.02127303 | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.8 Mesopotamia_BA:TUR_Alalakh_MLBA:pure_BC1850_1400_k 21c
24.0 Levant_BA:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA:BC1600_k3c
14.6 UpperMycenaean:MYG:BC1600_1450_k7c
5.6 Helladic:GRC_Manika_Helladic_EBA:Mik15___BC_2300__ _Coverage_94.19%

Far_away

08-08-2024, 12:46 PM

Target: FarAway_scaled
Distance: 1.7080% / 0.01707983 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.2 Dinaric_BA
26.0 Baltic_BA
25.6 Anatolia_BA
15.2 HUN_BA