Cucuteni (Romania):The First Civilization of Europe, K7 v1, Scaled

[ScandinavianCelt]

How much of your genetics could be coming from Europe's first known civilization of people-- the Cucuteni in Mesolithic Romania?

This is a pre-Yamnaya calc. If it could use some tweaks, let us know!

https://i.postimg.cc/YqQZz9YV/cucuteni-civilization-culture.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

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My result:

Target: SC_23andMe_Official_Scaled
Distance: 4.4788% / 0.04478766
64.6 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
29.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
4.8 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
1.2 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

Target: SC_23andMe_Official_Scaled
Distance: 4.8041% / 0.04804080 | ADC: 0.5x RC
71.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
29.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)


My distance to Cucuteni:

Distance to: SC_23andMe_Official_Scaled
0.09968803 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 3.2676% / 0.03267633
52.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
39.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
8.6 Rochedanian(France_WHG)

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 3.3731% / 0.03373090
50.8 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
40.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
8.4 Rochedanian(France_WHG)

[gixajo]

It´s called Trypillia culture in Ukraine, and is more Neolithic-Chalcolithic culture than Mesolithic,

They are basically Neolithic from Eastern Europe that show contact with Yamnaya-like people, they have different phases and your reference should be an average of a very advanced phase prior to the Bronze Age, because their Yamnaya is quite high.

Target: Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
Distance: 2.9504% / 0.02950422
78.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 TUR_Barcin_N
10.2 WHG
1.2 Jarawa

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0310% / 0.03100175
48.5 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
47.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
4.5 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.7460% / 0.03745984
50.8 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
36.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
7.2 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
3.2 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
2.6 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.8634% / 0.03863421 | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.2 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
38.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
11.0 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.7559% / 0.04755857 | ADC: 1x RC
51.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
48.4 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)

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Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.9866% / 0.03986586
53.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
34.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
8.6 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
2.0 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
1.8 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 4.1336% / 0.04133635 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
38.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
10.2 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 4.8749% / 0.04874908 | ADC: 1x RC
52.8 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
47.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)

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Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 3.5651% / 0.03565123
54.2 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
35.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
6.2 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
3.6 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
1.0 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 3.6560% / 0.03655963 | ADC: 0.5x RC
53.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
35.6 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
10.8 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 4.5674% / 0.04567425 | ADC: 1x RC
54.8 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
45.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)



Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.15357599 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
0.16316402 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
0.25692133 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
0.27619616 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
0.30093595 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
0.34602957 Rochedanian(France_WHG)
0.35583603 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[Athalafuns]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.5066% / 0.03506568
50.2 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
42.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
5.8 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
0.8 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
0.6 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
0.4 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)

Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.5815% / 0.03581516 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
43.4 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
7.6 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)

Distance to: RNB27
0.15622072 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
0.15662840 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
0.26170223 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
0.27285063 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
0.29537214 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
0.35103708 Rochedanian(France_WHG)
0.36043071 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[ScandinavianCelt]

It´s called Trypillia culture in Ukraine, and is more Neolithic-Chalcolithic culture than Mesolithic,

They are basically Neolithic from Eastern Europe that show contact with Yamnaya-like people, they have different phases and your reference should be an average of a very advanced phase prior to the Bronze Age, because their Yamnaya is quite high.

Target: Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
Distance: 2.9504% / 0.02950422
78.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 TUR_Barcin_N
10.2 WHG
1.2 Jarawa


FWIW:

https://i.postimg.cc/Nj3MpBNn/cucuteni2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[ScandinavianCelt]

It´s called Trypillia culture in Ukraine, and is more Neolithic-Chalcolithic culture than Mesolithic,

They are basically Neolithic from Eastern Europe that show contact with Yamnaya-like people, they have different phases and your reference should be an average of a very advanced phase prior to the Bronze Age, because their Yamnaya is quite high.

Target: Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
Distance: 2.9504% / 0.02950422
78.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 TUR_Barcin_N
10.2 WHG
1.2 Jarawa

The sample is mesolithic-neolithic, so no need to include Yamnaya for this sample as they are dated to EBA, and would soon arrive, so they will ultimately show high correlation, but it would be later that they morphed into Thracian and Dacian and now Romanian. The Yamnaya apparently swept through there, impacting the area and people, eventually, but the sample is pre-Yamnaya.

[vader]

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 3.4568% / 0.03456841
52.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
37.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
9.6 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)

The Magdalenians are fascinating. Happy to have a genetic link / proclivity to them!


https://youtu.be/B6KXHzV9qz0?si=9y-cO_sRcGdDO6zD

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 28.6193% / 0.28619254
61.4 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
27.8 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
10.8 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

[EasternLusitanian]

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0401% / 0.04008079
54.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
37.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
7.0 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
1.4 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.10885822 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
0.21625770 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
0.24748865 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
0.25628151 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
0.27700425 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
0.33477902 Rochedanian(France_WHG)
0.34240290 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 5.2350% / 0.05235038
63.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
31.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
5.8 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[Rafael Passoni]

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.7007% / 0.02700653
60.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
35.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
4.2 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 5.2437% / 0.05243701
56.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
31.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
8.4 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
4.6 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

[Kostek]

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 7.7516% / 0.07751617 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
27.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
8.6 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 7.6150% / 0.07615022
48.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
32.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
12.8 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
6.8 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4285% / 0.04428509
45.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
28.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
14.2 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
11.4 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

[cass]

How much of your genetics could be coming from Europe's first known civilization of people-- the Cucuteni in Mesolithic Romania?



What is the source and age of this archaeological site?

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 5.6573% / 0.05657272
45.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
40.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
8.2 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
3.2 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
3.0 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[ScandinavianCelt]

What is the source and age of this archaeological site?

(5500-3500 B.C.)

[cass]

(5500-3500 B.C.)

And this specific sample, what age is it?


Are you sure it's older than Sredny Stog?

[ScandinavianCelt]

And this specific sample, what age is it?


Are you sure it's older than Sredny Stog?

https://i.postimg.cc/ryNZx88x/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-08-05-T140058-096.png (https://postimages.org/)

You'd have to do some research on the samples. One goes back to Mesolithic (Cucuteni), so I assume the G25 creators labeled it as older in doing so.

[Balboa]

Target: Balboa_maternal
Distance: 3.2256% / 0.03225610
81.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
10.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
6.0 Rochedanian(France_WHG)
1.6 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: Balboa
Distance: 1.9495% / 0.01949465
72.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
17.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
7.2 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
2.6 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: Balboa_paternal
Distance: 2.8062% / 0.02806200
62.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
16.8 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
16.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
4.8 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

[ScandinavianCelt]

And this specific sample, what age is it?


Are you sure it's older than Sredny Stog?

both vs Modern Scaled G25 individuals (official)

Distance to: UKR_Sredni_Stog_En
0.11860828 Finnish_Central:HG00366
0.12168354 Finnish_North:HG00288
0.12256247 Finnish_East:HG00269
0.12307248 Karelian:KAR-165
0.12311263 Mordovian:Mordovian12
0.12361808 Pamiri_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.12389655 Russian_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-345
0.12411191 Finnish_East:HG00290
0.12427244 Moksha:MOE-025
0.12427244 Mordovian:MOE-025
0.12437765 Mordovian:GRC11056601_Mordva27
0.12463009 Mordovian:Mordovian5
0.12464240 Finnish_East:HG00182
0.12472266 Russian_Leshukonsky:Rakrlsh-143
0.12488738 Karelian:GS000013765
0.12501309 Erzya:MOE-002
0.12501309 Mordovian:MOE-002
0.12511739 Karelian:KAR-009
0.12526272 Mordovian:Mordovian17
0.12530157 Mordovian:GRC11056596_Mordva12
0.12561264 Ingrian:GS000016897
0.12600498 Pamiri_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.12648458 Karelian:karelia2
0.12656343 Karelian:KAR-173
0.12662300 Mordovian:GRC11056597_Mordva14

Distance to: Romania_Mesolithic_Neolithic:I6184
0.08562382 Swedish:GSM1884913
0.08578871 Finnish_East:HG00269
0.08674095 Finnish_Southeast:HG00318
0.08740907 Mordovian:Mordovian5
0.08753315 Finnish_Central:HG00366
0.08922556 Mordovian:Mordovian17
0.08942319 Finnish_Southeast:HG00376
0.08960353 Swedish:GSM1884921
0.08987909 Swedish:Sweden12
0.09017913 Irish:Irish40
0.09065265 Swedish:GSM1884847
0.09066835 Russian_Krasnoborsky:Rakr-345
0.09099803 German:German46
0.09122624 Norwegian:GSM1550604
0.09133418 Finnish_Southeast:HG00328
0.09174937 Finnish_Southeast:HG00284
0.09197174 Swedish:GSM1884819
0.09210673 Swedish:GSM1884899
0.09223927 Finnish_Southeast:HG00381
0.09235840 Norwegian:GSM1550768
0.09240377 Swedish:GSM1884875
0.09242300 Russian_Yaroslavl:RYAR-232
0.09248261 Irish:513
0.09257599 Finnish_East:HG00290
0.09265432 Polish:Polish18


Target: UKR_Sredni_Stog_En
Distance: 9.4284% / 0.09428406 | ADC: 2x RC
52.6 Finnish_Central
47.4 Pamiri_Rushan

Target: Romania_Mesolithic_Neolithic:I6184
Distance: 7.9076% / 0.07907557 | ADC: 2x RC
44.6 Swedish
29.6 Mordovian
25.8 Finnish_East

Target: UKR_Sredni_Stog_En
Distance: 8.5267% / 0.08526703
36.8 Finnish_East
21.8 Kalash
18.8 Akhvakh
8.6 Lithuanian_PZ
8.2 Swedish
2.8 Lak
2.6 Karitiana
0.2 Latvian
0.2 Mbuti

Target: Romania_Mesolithic_Neolithic:I6184
Distance: 6.0187% / 0.06018736
34.6 Finnish_East
21.0 Irish
20.0 Avar
15.6 Latvian
6.0 Kalash
2.2 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh_East
0.4 Papuan_Highland_A
0.2 Karitiana

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Balboa_maternal
Distance: 3.2256% / 0.03225610
81.6 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
10.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
6.0 Rochedanian(France_WHG)
1.6 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: Balboa
Distance: 1.9495% / 0.01949465
72.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
17.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
7.2 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
2.6 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: Balboa_paternal
Distance: 2.8062% / 0.02806200
62.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
16.8 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
16.0 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
4.8 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

so you consume carbs over meat and dairy?

[Balboa]

so you consume carbs over meat and dairy?

strangely enough almost all my relatives digest Lactose, even though most people in Sardinia are intolerant

[vader]

strangely enough almost all my relatives digest Lactose, even though most people in Sardinia are intolerant

I always had trouble with lactose but I put up with it and have it anyway.

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 5.5477% / 0.05547658
49.6 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
39.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
6.2 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
5.2 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

[Figaro]

Target: CordedFather
Distance: 5.0183% / 0.05018291
56.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
35.2 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
5.4 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
3.2 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 4.7439% / 0.04743936
54.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
33.8 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
5.8 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
5.6 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

[ScandinavianCelt]

strangely enough almost all my relatives digest Lactose, even though most people in Sardinia are intolerant

but is the primary food group you crave carboydrates such as cereals, breads, and pastas?

[Balboa]

but is the primary food group you crave carboydrates such as cereals, breads, and pastas?

Not really ahaha, the food I mainly crave is meat and I also enjoy eggs, the traditional diet in Sardinia too is also organ meat heavy but obviously also full of grains

[tk'es]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.7870% / 0.05787006 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
28.4 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
26.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)

[djipon]

Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 3.8950% / 0.03895001
48.0 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
40.8 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
8.6 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
2.6 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)

[yngviktor]

Target: Dilan
Distance: 4.4845% / 0.04484548
48.6 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
43.2 Barcinian(Turkey_EEF)
3.2 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)
3.0 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
2.0 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)

[alexmegas777]

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.14933336 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
0.25763573 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
0.28014450 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)
0.29313115 NorthernSiberian(Russia_ANE)
0.37690387 Villabrunian(Italy_HG)

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 14.1037% / 0.14103745
65.2 Cucutenian(Romania_Mesolithic)
20.2 Satsurbian(Georgia_CHG)
14.6 Magdalenian(Spanish_ElMiron)