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Gallop
08-05-2024, 09:20 AM
I don't remember ever seeing a publication about them.
Does anyone know with whom the French Jews are conspiring in relation to modern populations?
Johnson Reed
08-05-2024, 07:08 PM
Algerian and other North African Jews, since that is where most modern French Jews descend from.
Gallop
08-08-2024, 08:27 PM
Algerian and other North African Jews, since that is where most modern French Jews descend from.
But with which modern population in Europe are they more closed?
Upsilander
08-08-2024, 09:24 PM
But with which modern population in Europe are they more closed?
South Italians and Greeks for Ashkenazis. Sephardis are in between them and Maghrebis.
Flashball
08-08-2024, 11:00 PM
Provençal jews are neither sephardic, neither ashkenazi
And we don't have any samples from provençal jews
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juifs_du_pape
Some of these jews from France have "french" or frenchized last name.
Jacques de Imbelloni
08-08-2024, 11:28 PM
Thise are from Argentina, but from french jewish origin:
Jean Pierre Noher
https://es.web.img2.acsta.net/c_310_420/medias/nmedia/18/78/13/97/19447227.jpg
Juan Grabois
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1664053024317112320/pIPW1j3t_400x400.jpg
Not shure about this one:
Mónica Cahen D'Anvers
https://www.fundacionkonex.org/custom/web/data/imagenes/repositorio/2010/6/1/1988/20160316114742c6335734dbc0b1ded766421cfc611750.jpg
Johnson Reed
08-09-2024, 01:02 AM
Most of the original French Jews were killed in WWII, but when France left North Africa, most of the Jews there moved to France.
The most famous modern French Jew is Éric Zemmour, whose parents and grandparents came from Algeria. All of his great-grandparents were French citizens at birth.
https://images.wsj.net/im-445970/?width=1280&size=1.33333333
Sebastianus Rex
08-09-2024, 01:53 AM
Most of the original French Jews were killed in WWII, but when France left North Africa, most of the Jews there moved to France.
The most famous modern French Jew is Éric Zemmour, whose parents and grandparents came from Algeria. All of his great-grandparents were French citizens at birth.
https://images.wsj.net/im-445970/?width=1280&size=1.33333333
Most French Jews were not killed in WW2, the opposite is true, they had one of the highest survival rates in Europe, almost 80%.
Around 75.000 of the 340.000 jews who lived in Metropolitan France were deported and 72.500 died (a bit over 20%). The Jews who lived in French possessions, particularly Algeria, around 400.000, were in safety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France
Contrary to the current mainstream version, Petain and his Vichy regime, who is accused of collaboration with the nazis, actually protected the French Jews and demanded as a condition to sign the armistice, that the French Jews would not be harmed or deported, unless they were actively engaged in certain political (communists) and resistance movements.
Johnson Reed
08-09-2024, 01:57 AM
Most French Jews were not killed in WW2. Around 75.000 of the 340.000 jews who lived in Metropolitan France were deported and 72.500 died (a bit over 20%). The Jews who lived in French possessions, around 400.000, were in safety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France
Contrary to the current mainstream version, Petain and his Vichy regime, who is accused of collaboration with the nazis, actually protected the French Jews and demanded as a condition to sign the armistice, that the French Jews would not be deported, unless they were actively engaged in certain political (communists) and resistance movements.
Interestingly, Zemmour himself received criticism from Jewish leaders for defending Petain.
Johnson Reed
08-09-2024, 02:00 AM
Distance to: Libyan_Jew
0.03357300 Romaniote_Jew
0.03500986 Turkish_Jew
0.03686765 Syrian_Jew
0.03769648 Bulgarian_Jew
0.03880785 Italian_Jew
0.04298154 Ashkenazi_France
0.04317967 Jordanian
0.04327668 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.04354307 Karaite_Egypt
0.04382048 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.04406448 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04482183 Lebanese_Christian
0.04484623 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.04561583 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.04577396 Alawite
0.04625154 Palestinian
0.04656871 Lebanese_Druze
0.04745447 Druze
0.04799310 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04884945 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.04910001 Cypriot
0.04981547 Syrian
0.05002246 Ashkenazi_Austria
0.05141832 Maltese
0.05146538 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
Distance to: Moroccan_Jew
0.02543197 Turkish_Jew
0.02773037 Bulgarian_Jew
0.02937741 Italian_Jew
0.03035835 Romaniote_Jew
0.03247422 Ashkenazi_France
0.03453665 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.03736327 Maltese
0.03806787 Ashkenazi_Austria
0.03821782 Syrian_Jew
0.04123481 Ashkenazi_Latvia
0.04272188 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.04561710 Ashkenazi_Romania
0.04579279 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.04597681 Italian_Calabria
0.04623497 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.04768690 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.04809124 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.04950865 Sicilian_East
0.05020406 Sicilian_West
0.05045853 Cypriot
0.05049077 Italian_Campania
0.05058952 Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
0.05135915 Karaite_Egypt
0.05176678 Greek_Dodecanese
0.05181923 Belmonte_Jew
Distance to: Algerian_Jew
0.02166256 Turkish_Jew
0.02309181 Italian_Jew
0.02348581 Romaniote_Jew
0.02486247 Bulgarian_Jew
0.02805230 Ashkenazi_France
0.02997217 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.03451276 Ashkenazi_Austria
0.03494676 Syrian_Jew
0.03542350 Maltese
0.03765343 Ashkenazi_Latvia
0.03991019 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.04198592 Italian_Calabria
0.04286733 Cypriot
0.04291726 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.04308142 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.04322328 Ashkenazi_Romania
0.04374973 Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
0.04444127 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.04514855 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.04521454 Greek_Dodecanese
0.04538062 Karaite_Egypt
0.04600723 Sicilian_East
0.04663536 Italian_Campania
0.04769543 Greek_Kos
0.04769695 Lebanese_Muslim
Distance to: Tunisian_Jew
0.02902901 Romaniote_Jew
0.03016112 Turkish_Jew
0.03122598 Bulgarian_Jew
0.03333159 Syrian_Jew
0.03413592 Italian_Jew
0.03933414 Ashkenazi_France
0.04067828 Karaite_Egypt
0.04150678 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.04299128 Lebanese_Christian
0.04383368 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04393629 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.04415442 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.04460837 Alawite
0.04490184 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.04516672 Cypriot
0.04560136 Lebanese_Druze
0.04596988 Druze
0.04608887 Ashkenazi_Austria
0.04651032 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.04772840 Jordanian
0.04814934 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04840064 Ashkenazi_Latvia
0.04850208 Maltese
0.04881734 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.05050760 Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
So, the closest non-Jewish populations to most French Jews are Sicilians, Maltese, South Italians, and Greek Islanders.
Maghrebi Jews are closer to Southern Europeans than they are to Maghrebi Muslims.
Sebastianus Rex
08-09-2024, 02:07 AM
Interestingly, Zemmour himself received criticism from Jewish leaders for defending Petain.
Jewish leaders always bitch about muh anti-semitism, Zemmour is intellectually honest in aknowledging that the high survival rate of Jews in France (almost 80% in Metropolitan France) is because Petain protected them.
Most French Jews were not killed in WW2, the opposite is true, they had one of the highest survival rates in Europe, almost 80%.
Around 75.000 of the 340.000 jews who lived in Metropolitan France were deported and 72.500 died (a bit over 20%). The Jews who lived in French possessions, particularly Algeria, around 400.000, were in safety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France
Contrary to the current mainstream version, Petain and his Vichy regime, who is accused of collaboration with the nazis, actually protected the French Jews and demanded as a condition to sign the armistice, that the French Jews would not be harmed or deported, unless they were actively engaged in certain political (communists) and resistance movements.
Actually it is up to 90% for "French jews" called "Israelites Jews" and 75% for "all the jews" living in France at that time.
https://www.lavie.fr/idees/debats/jacques-semelin-90-des-juifs-francais-ont-echappe-a-la-deportation-5523.php
This book is the result of a work of about ten years. I was encouraged by Simone Veil, whom I met several times, and by the work of Serge Klarsfeld (who prefaces the book, editor's note). In his book Vichy-Auschwitz, he had already pointed out that 75% of Jews had survived the Shoah in France, which means that of the 300,000 Jews in our country in 1940, about 220,000 survived. This is considerable in view of the massacres in other countries. Of course, we cannot forget the 80,000 Jews exterminated from France because of Vichy's collaboration. Among them, some were of French nationality, the others (the majority) of foreign origin, German, Polish, Czechoslovak, Hungarian or Romanian refugees. It is the latter who suffered the most from persecution: 60% of them nevertheless escaped death while nearly 90% of French Jews - who were called the "French Israelites" - survived the Shoah.
The Jews in modern France are Sephardic/North African and Ashkenazi of both Western and Eastern European origin. I suppose quite a few of them have both in them.
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