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cass
08-05-2024, 11:56 PM
Corrected version. Deleted coordinates of European Turks, Finno-Ugric people and small Caucasus nations.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MEleeLMLKjFIi2GslBa7KmQOchyUzhcHYu9OUjFha0k/edit?usp=sharing

Distance to: cass
0.15657725 Turkish_Balikesir
0.16289512 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.16291096 Turkish_Aydin
0.16316631 Turkish_Denizli
0.16418159 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.16432844 Pamiri_Rushan
0.16463492 Turkish_Antalya
0.16570401 Turkish_Konya
0.16966842 Turkish_Kayseri
0.17183629 Turkish_Sivas
0.17319412 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.17845783 Turkish_Giresun
0.17959182 Syrian_Aleppo
0.18046505 Kurd_Syria
0.18115269 Alevi_Dersim
0.18144040 Udi
0.18207463 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.18226558 Ezid
0.18479497 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.18490053 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.18522337 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.18539943 Bukharian_Jew
0.18543132 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.18604604 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.18633414 Iranian_Central

Target: cass
Distance: 15.0193% / 0.15019346
47.0 Pamiri_Rushan
39.8 Turkish_Balikesir
13.2 Moroccan_North

Beowulf
08-06-2024, 12:07 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.1235% / 0.12348851
45.9 Turkish_Balikesir
18.2 Lebanese_Christian
17.3 Moroccan_North
14.9 Pamiri_Rushan
3.7 Turkish_Trabzon

vader
08-06-2024, 12:57 AM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 11.0318% / 0.11031840
52.4 Turkish_Balikesir
29.4 Moroccan_North
13.0 Lebanese_Christian
5.2 Pamiri_Rushan

Distance to: Algarvio_scaled
0.12773781 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.12791320 Syrian_Aleppo
0.12888091 Turkish_Konya
0.12903325 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13201724 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13207861 Turkish_Aydin
0.13239650 Turkish_Denizli
0.13493223 Alawite
0.13557396 Lebanese_Muslim
0.13620936 Druze
0.13643950 Turkish_Antalya
0.13760815 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.13772715 Lebanese_Druze
0.13839850 Turkish_Sivas
0.13873245 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.13943840 Syrian
0.14014826 Lebanese_Christian
0.14078395 Syrian_Homs
0.14247386 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.14248605 Syrian_Hama
0.14256881 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.14452095 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.14568675 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.14586565 Jordanian
0.14751292 Bukharian_Jew


Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 3.9319% / 0.03931875
50.6 Quechua
18.6 Tunisia
14.6 Turkish_Balikesir
7.4 Pamiri_Rushan
5.8 Moroccan_North
3.0 Tlingit

Distance to: Wife_scaled
0.12475067 Cree
0.16250454 Tlingit
0.24717793 Bashkir
0.24906028 Tatar_Siberian
0.25136728 Uzbek
0.25463169 Nogai_Dobruja
0.25496749 Turkmen
0.25712600 Hazara_o
0.25894818 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.26169814 Nogai
0.26229701 Uygur
0.26432339 Chipewyan
0.26617218 Turkmen_Iran
0.26768661 Karakalpak
0.26833380 Yukagir_Forest
0.27047272 Hazara
0.27116264 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.27164992 Tajik_Tajikistan_Hisor
0.27219102 Altaian_Kizhi_o
0.27294561 Tubalar
0.27322665 Pamiri_Sarikoli
0.27502092 Tajik_Tajikistan_Ayni
0.27698305 Maori
0.27715321 Shor_Mountain
0.27823701 Amerindian_North

tk'es
08-06-2024, 06:40 AM
Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.06856137 Turkish_Ahiska
0.06871717 Turkish_Sivas
0.07089099 Turkish_Erzurum
0.07096220 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.07107231 Udi
0.07167885 Turkish_Kayseri
0.07194519 Alevi_Dersim
0.07401159 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.07414883 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.07548706 Turkish_Konya
0.07647010 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.07703381 Iranian_Central
0.07711109 Iranian_Cosmopolitan_Tehran
0.07808287 Turkmen_o
0.07825569 Ezid
0.07830929 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.07844270 Kurd_Syria
0.07870069 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.08059460 Kurd_Iraq
0.08084771 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.08101576 Kurd_USSR
0.08290783 Turkish_Aydin
0.08310024 Turkish_Balikesir
0.08374579 Turkish_Denizli
0.08399675 Iranian_Persian_Fars




Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 4.5689% / 0.04568936 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.4 Turkish_Ahiska
31.8 Pamiri_Rushan
6.8 Turkish_Balikesir

Dušan
08-06-2024, 08:38 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 12.8794% / 0.12879435
62.8 Turkish_Balikesir
13.6 Turkish_Trabzon
13.0 Pamiri_Rushan
10.6 Moroccan_North

Kostek
08-06-2024, 08:58 AM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 15.9815% / 0.15981540
55.6 Pamiri_Rushan
27.8 Turkish_Balikesir
16.6 Moroccan_North


Distance to: Kostek_scaled
0.16834302 Turkish_Balikesir
0.17111666 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.17210235 Pamiri_Rushan
0.17434904 Turkish_Aydin
0.17493231 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.17494283 Turkish_Denizli
0.17583976 Turkish_Antalya
0.17757454 Turkish_Konya
0.18054135 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.18128168 Turkish_Kayseri
0.18312044 Turkish_Sivas
0.19018622 Turkish_Giresun
0.19052838 Kurd_Syria
0.19075149 Syrian_Aleppo
0.19092036 Alevi_Dersim
0.19177733 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.19197890 Ezid
0.19207292 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.19250247 Udi
0.19291973 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.19352076 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.19428889 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.19507191 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.19524238 Iranian_Central
0.19539065 Tajik_Tajikistan_Ayni

Kostek
08-06-2024, 08:59 AM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 15.9815% / 0.15981540
55.6 Pamiri_Rushan
27.8 Turkish_Balikesir
16.6 Moroccan_North


Distance to: Kostek_scaled
0.16834302 Turkish_Balikesir
0.17111666 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.17210235 Pamiri_Rushan
0.17434904 Turkish_Aydin
0.17493231 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.17494283 Turkish_Denizli
0.17583976 Turkish_Antalya
0.17757454 Turkish_Konya
0.18054135 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.18128168 Turkish_Kayseri
0.18312044 Turkish_Sivas
0.19018622 Turkish_Giresun
0.19052838 Kurd_Syria
0.19075149 Syrian_Aleppo
0.19092036 Alevi_Dersim
0.19177733 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.19197890 Ezid
0.19207292 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.19250247 Udi
0.19291973 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.19352076 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.19428889 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.19507191 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.19524238 Iranian_Central
0.19539065 Tajik_Tajikistan_Ayni

cass
08-06-2024, 09:06 AM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 15.9815% / 0.15981540
55.6 Pamiri_Rushan
27.8 Turkish_Balikesir
16.6 Moroccan_North


Distance to: Kostek_scaled
0.16834302 Turkish_Balikesir
0.17111666 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.17210235 Pamiri_Rushan
0.17434904 Turkish_Aydin
0.17493231 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.17494283 Turkish_Denizli
0.17583976 Turkish_Antalya
0.17757454 Turkish_Konya
0.18054135 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.18128168 Turkish_Kayseri
0.18312044 Turkish_Sivas
0.19018622 Turkish_Giresun
0.19052838 Kurd_Syria
0.19075149 Syrian_Aleppo
0.19092036 Alevi_Dersim
0.19177733 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.19197890 Ezid
0.19207292 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.19250247 Udi
0.19291973 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.19352076 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.19428889 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.19507191 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.19524238 Iranian_Central
0.19539065 Tajik_Tajikistan_Ayni


https://www.youtube.com/live/xuvFOXLXTsk

Scythian chieftain so far

Athalafuns
08-06-2024, 09:08 AM
Distance to: RNB27
0.13142431 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.13252321 Syrian_Aleppo
0.13281974 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13304702 Turkish_Konya
0.13545205 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13679311 Turkish_Denizli
0.13680581 Turkish_Aydin
0.14086647 Alawite
0.14097491 Turkish_Antalya
0.14156003 Turkish_Sivas
0.14184784 Lebanese_Muslim
0.14245441 Druze
0.14368169 Lebanese_Druze
0.14432401 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.14577790 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.14593740 Syrian
0.14654683 Lebanese_Christian
0.14658169 Syrian_Homs
0.14832465 Syrian_Hama
0.14894320 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.14904339 Udi
0.14920281 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.15036664 Kurd_Syria
0.15054416 Bukharian_Jew
0.15056077 Alevi_Dersim

Target: RNB27
Distance: 11.8268% / 0.11826818
41.0 Turkish_Balikesir
25.6 Moroccan_North
17.6 Lebanese_Christian
15.8 Pamiri_Rushan

cass
08-06-2024, 09:27 AM
Distance to: RNB27
0.13142431 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.13252321 Syrian_Aleppo
0.13281974 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13304702 Turkish_Konya
0.13545205 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13679311 Turkish_Denizli
0.13680581 Turkish_Aydin
0.14086647 Alawite
0.14097491 Turkish_Antalya
0.14156003 Turkish_Sivas
0.14184784 Lebanese_Muslim
0.14245441 Druze
0.14368169 Lebanese_Druze
0.14432401 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.14577790 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.14593740 Syrian
0.14654683 Lebanese_Christian
0.14658169 Syrian_Homs
0.14832465 Syrian_Hama
0.14894320 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.14904339 Udi
0.14920281 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.15036664 Kurd_Syria
0.15054416 Bukharian_Jew
0.15056077 Alevi_Dersim

Target: RNB27
Distance: 11.8268% / 0.11826818
41.0 Turkish_Balikesir
25.6 Moroccan_North
17.6 Lebanese_Christian
15.8 Pamiri_Rushan


Considering the western edge of Europe, this is a very high steppe share.

It seems that this is already a stable version since we all have the same results in different proportions.

EasternLusitanian
08-06-2024, 10:08 AM
Distance to: MV_scaled
0.11974829 Syrian_Aleppo
0.12385228 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.12583801 Alawite
0.12609977 Turkish_Konya
0.12655678 Druze
0.12692208 Lebanese_Muslim
0.12793412 Lebanese_Druze
0.12802901 Turkish_Kayseri
0.12883939 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.12953729 Lebanese_Christian
0.13018746 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13079675 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.13166530 Syrian
0.13212561 Turkish_Aydin
0.13246905 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.13249509 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.13252002 Turkish_Denizli
0.13343012 Syrian_Hama
0.13429456 Turkish_Sivas
0.13442300 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.13519985 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.13520867 Syrian_Homs
0.13750692 Jordanian
0.13760409 Turkish_Antalya
0.13927629 Karaite_Iraq

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.1055% / 0.10551171
37.3 Turkish_Balikesir
28.9 Moroccan_North
25.9 Lebanese_Christian
7.9 Pamiri_Rushan

djipon
08-06-2024, 03:07 PM
Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 9.4665% / 0.09466500
48.2 Turkish_Balikesir
30.2 Druze
9.0 Pamiri_Rushan
8.6 Turkish_Trabzon
4.0 Moroccan_North

what do you think?

cass
08-06-2024, 04:35 PM
Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 9.4665% / 0.09466500
48.2 Turkish_Balikesir
30.2 Druze
9.0 Pamiri_Rushan
8.6 Turkish_Trabzon
4.0 Moroccan_North

what do you think?

Probably confirmation of what you have in the description.

Katarzyna
08-06-2024, 05:25 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 16.1073% / 0.16107263
53.0 Pamiri_Rushan
32.4 Turkish_Balikesir
12.6 Moroccan_North
2.0 Tlingit

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
Distance: 15.3677% / 0.15367733
57.4 Pamiri_Rushan
27.6 Turkish_Balikesir
11.8 Moroccan_North
3.2 Tlingit

Mopi The Dire Wolf
08-06-2024, 05:28 PM
Target: Mopi_scaled
Distance: 12.4900% / 0.12490015
50.8 Turkish_Balikesir
20.0 Pamiri_Rushan
19.2 Moroccan_North
9.8 Lebanese_Christian
0.2 Turkish_Trabzon


Distance to: Mopi_scaled
0.13177118 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13536515 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.13549206 Turkish_Konya
0.13711418 Turkish_Denizli
0.13731550 Turkish_Aydin
0.13891611 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14055451 Turkish_Antalya
0.14293006 Syrian_Aleppo
0.14318330 Turkish_Sivas
0.15215603 Udi
0.15240685 Alawite
0.15371182 Lebanese_Muslim
0.15372558 Druze
0.15403560 Alevi_Dersim
0.15418993 Kurd_Syria
0.15445530 Turkish_Giresun
0.15501184 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.15525926 Lebanese_Druze
0.15622605 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.15639806 Bukharian_Jew
0.15645233 Ezid
0.15658891 Turkish_Erzurum
0.15660245 Syrian_Homs
0.15767189 Syrian
0.15787602 Tajik_Yaghnobi

cass
08-06-2024, 05:44 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 16.1073% / 0.16107263
53.0 Pamiri_Rushan
32.4 Turkish_Balikesir
12.6 Moroccan_North
2.0 Tlingit

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
Distance: 15.3677% / 0.15367733
57.4 Pamiri_Rushan
27.6 Turkish_Balikesir
11.8 Moroccan_North
3.2 Tlingit

This model is extremely sensitive to any trace of the Balts/Finns.

https://i.ibb.co/HD7YwqN/swede.jpg (https://ibb.co/HD7YwqN)

Eurafricanid
08-06-2024, 07:44 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 11.4150% / 0.11414973
42.8 Turkish_Balikesir
35.6 Lebanese_Christian
14.2 Moroccan_North
7.4 Pamiri_Rushan




<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU


0.12298472
Turkish_Nevsehir


0.12325284
Syrian_Aleppo


0.12465395
Turkish_Konya


0.12570419
Turkish_Kayseri


0.12841159
Alawite


0.12869678
Druze


0.12872835
Turkish_Balikesir


0.13040463
Lebanese_Muslim


0.13055619
Lebanese_Druze


0.13157068
Turkish_Aydin


0.13172718
Turkish_Denizli


0.13246398
Turkish_Sivas


0.13252356
Lebanese_Christian


0.13269129
Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut


0.13432677
Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta


0.13534351
Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura


0.13601483
Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh


0.13605919
Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut


0.13611422
Syrian_Hama


0.13634629
Syrian


0.13660767
Turkish_Antalya


0.13769266
Udi


0.13812535
Syrian_Homs


0.13921258
Palestinian_Beit_Sahour


0.13969429
Bukharian_Jew

</tbody>





Full (JFF)
Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 4.9225% / 0.04922480
40.0 Cameroon_Bakoko
35.0 Tunisia
12.0 Pamiri_Rushan
8.6 Turkish_Balikesir
2.4 Tlingit
0.8 Bolivian_Pando
0.6 Igbo
0.4 Biaka
0.2 Mbuti



<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid_scaled


0.10658745
Berber_Algeria


0.14130713
Moroccan_South


0.14202888
Baggara_Arab_Chad_A


0.16073384
Iranian_Bandari_Zanji


0.16178451
Sudan_Arab_Kababish


0.18190845
Fulani


0.19250158
Ethiopian_Afar


0.19299267
Ethiopian_Tigray


0.19415959
Ethiopian_Amhara


0.19472122
Ethiopian_Oromo


0.19571555
Eritrean


0.19696945
Ethiopian_Agaw


0.19705780
Saho_Eritrean


0.19832558
Ethiopian_Jew


0.20512517
Ethiopian_Wolayta


0.20583348
Moroccan


0.20932711
Somali


0.20946383
Berber_MAR_ERR


0.21282367
Algerian


0.21349646
Fulani_Burkina_Faso_Ziniare


0.21362476
Somali_Kenya


0.21655607
Berber_MAR_TIZ


0.21771073
Tunisian_Douz


0.21956111
Saharawi


0.22138168
Egyptian_o

</tbody>

Figaro
08-06-2024, 07:53 PM
Target: CordedFather
Distance: 14.1974% / 0.14197442
45.0 Turkish_Balikesir
37.4 Pamiri_Rushan
14.0 Moroccan_North
3.6 Lebanese_Christian


Target: CordedMother
Distance: 13.9445% / 0.13944543
44.2 Turkish_Balikesir
41.4 Pamiri_Rushan
14.4 Moroccan_North

ScandinavianCelt
08-06-2024, 08:53 PM
Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 13.7300% / 0.13730026
54.4 Pamiri_Rushan
28.0 Turkish_Balikesir
16.2 Moroccan_North
1.4 Lebanese_Christian


Distance to: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
0.14671097 Turkish_Balikesir
0.15073761 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.15206902 Pamiri_Rushan
0.15318030 Turkish_Denizli
0.15367857 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.15368496 Turkish_Aydin
0.15539004 Turkish_Antalya
0.15544461 Turkish_Konya
0.15905942 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16020161 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.16031615 Turkish_Sivas
0.16817067 Syrian_Aleppo
0.16819890 Turkish_Giresun
0.16877523 Kurd_Syria
0.16905346 Udi
0.16931565 Alevi_Dersim
0.17048741 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.17068999 Ezid
0.17280572 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.17322248 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.17341222 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.17404015 Iranian_Central
0.17409289 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.17426892 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.17461752 Bukharian_Jew

RyoHazuki
08-06-2024, 09:00 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 14.6984% / 0.14698427
37.4 Pamiri_Rushan
36.8 Turkish_Balikesir
17.4 Moroccan_North
8.4 Lebanese_Christian

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 14.5595% / 0.14559506
39.0 Turkish_Balikesir
38.4 Pamiri_Rushan
18.2 Moroccan_North
4.4 Lebanese_Christian

ScandinavianCelt
08-06-2024, 09:28 PM
@cass

If I add the one Tlingit sample I am closest to, my results completely change:


Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 13.1132% / 0.13113239 | ADC: 0.5x RC
34.4 Syrian_Aleppo
29.2 Tlingit:Ale32
26.2 Pamiri_Rushan
10.2 Tunisia

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 12.8982% / 0.12898227 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.2 Udi
34.6 Tlingit:Ale32
13.8 Moroccan_North
11.4 Pamiri_Rushan

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 12.8981% / 0.12898112
35.8 Udi
34.4 Tlingit:Ale32
13.6 Moroccan_North
12.6 Pamiri_Rushan
3.2 Turkish_Trabzon
0.4 Lebanese_Christian


Who are these Udi? Udmurt?

The Tlingit sample I match with comes in at a distance of .20

Distance to: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
0.14671097 Turkish_Balikesir
0.15073761 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.15206902 Pamiri_Rushan
0.15318030 Turkish_Denizli
0.15367857 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.15368496 Turkish_Aydin
0.15539004 Turkish_Antalya
0.15544461 Turkish_Konya
0.15905942 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16020161 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.16031615 Turkish_Sivas
0.16817067 Syrian_Aleppo
0.16819890 Turkish_Giresun
0.16877523 Kurd_Syria
0.16905346 Udi
0.16931565 Alevi_Dersim
0.17048741 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.17068999 Ezid
0.17280572 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.17322248 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.17341222 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.17404015 Iranian_Central
0.17409289 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.17426892 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.17461752 Bukharian_Jew
0.17528974 Turkish_Erzurum
0.17549961 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.17645759 Iranian_Cosmopolitan_Tehran
0.17662817 Kurd_Iraq
0.17692569 Turkmen_o
0.17700510 Pamiri_Ishkashim
0.17706303 Iranian_Persian_Fars
0.17722549 Tajik_Tajikistan_Ayni
0.17726184 Kurd_USSR
0.17759542 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.17770380 Tajik_Tajikistan_Hisor
0.17838702 Turkish_Ahiska
0.17930401 Iranian_Persian_Khorasan
0.18133649 Syrian_Homs
0.18143624 Irani_Zoroastrian_India
0.18160647 Assyrian_o
0.18163397 Alawite
0.18183003 Lebanese_Muslim
0.18229024 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey_o
0.18247701 Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
0.18260220 Iranian_Qashqai
0.18391299 Druze
0.18401476 Syrian
0.18454043 Lebanese_Druze
0.18465719 Iranian_Lor_Khorramabad
0.18476670 Syrian_Hama
0.18476993 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.18611918 Turkish_Trabzon
0.18683559 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.18749453 Pashtun_Pakistan_Bettani
0.18759023 Pamiri_Wakhi
0.18784574 Iranian_Lor_Bakhtiari
0.18809841 Iraqi_Arab_West
0.18840256 Iranian_Mazandarani_o
0.18918966 Assyrian_Mardin
0.18941977 Assyrian
0.18960561 Chaldean_Iraq
0.19064498 Lebanese_Christian
0.19065438 Iraqi_Arab_Central
0.19084904 Pamiri_Sarikoli
0.19089214 Iranian_Jew
0.19159462 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.19172135 Pashtun_Afghanistan_North
0.19189127 Pashtun_Afghanistan_Paktia
0.19214728 Pashtun_Afghanistan
0.19254387 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.19292132 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.19307406 Mandaean_Iraq
0.19430130 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19461993 Parsi_Pakistan
0.19624988 Pashtun_Northeast_Afghanistan
0.19688211 Karaite_Iraq
0.19701490 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.19727260 Parsi_India
0.19742446 Jordanian
0.19796473 Turkmen_Iran
0.19845514 Iranian_Arab_Khuzestan
0.19880669 Kurdish_Jew
0.19968950 Cochin_Jew_A
0.20024085 Iraqi_Jew
0.20048397 Tajik_Afghanistan
0.20119858 Nash_Didan_Jew_Urmia
0.20127550 EmiratiC
0.20169316 Pashtun_Pakistan_Khattak_Nowshera
0.20233354 Pashtun_Afghanistan_Northeast
0.20268810 Palestinian
0.20348596 Tlingit:Ale32
0.20478197 Ror
0.20523714 Iraqi_Arab_South
0.20638986 Iranian_Bandari
0.20761555 Balochi_Iran_o
0.20849915 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
0.20946082 Samaritan
0.20965850 Pashtun_Tarkalani
0.21043258 Kho

The results at no ADC seem odd given the distance of the Tlingit and Udi compared to the others above them.

If I add in the individual Rushan samples, the results change again:

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 12.8022% / 0.12802235
29.8 Tlingit:Ale32
29.8 Pamiri_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
14.0 Turkish_Trabzon
13.6 Lebanese_Christian
12.2 Moroccan_North
0.6 Pamiri_Rushan:tdj521_rushan

cass
08-06-2024, 09:34 PM
@cass

If I add the one Tlingit sample I am closest to, my results completely change:


Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 13.1132% / 0.13113239 | ADC: 0.5x RC
34.4 Syrian_Aleppo
29.2 Tlingit:Ale32
26.2 Pamiri_Rushan
10.2 Tunisia

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 12.8982% / 0.12898227 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.2 Udi
34.6 Tlingit:Ale32
13.8 Moroccan_North
11.4 Pamiri_Rushan

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 12.8981% / 0.12898112
35.8 Udi
34.4 Tlingit:Ale32
13.6 Moroccan_North
12.6 Pamiri_Rushan
3.2 Turkish_Trabzon
0.4 Lebanese_Christian


Who are these Udi? Udmurt?

The Tlingit sample I match with comes in at a distance of .20

https://i.postimg.cc/Dw1J2912/tlingit32-distance.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udi_people
Another people from the Caucasus that I forgot to remove. Sorry, there were a lot of them with names unknown to me.

rothaer
08-06-2024, 09:50 PM
Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.15734449 Turkish_Balikesir
0.16379581 Turkish_Aydin
0.16401366 Turkish_Denizli
0.16476802 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.16493412 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.16542622 Turkish_Antalya
0.16631860 Turkish_Konya
0.16640872 Pamiri_Rushan
0.17038266 Turkish_Kayseri
0.17255530 Turkish_Sivas

Distance to: rothaer_wife2_scaled
0.16306985 Turkish_Balikesir
0.16734803 Pamiri_Rushan
0.16748488 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.17022828 Turkish_Aydin
0.17032489 Turkish_Denizli
0.17166294 Turkish_Antalya
0.17261550 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.17334037 Turkish_Konya
0.17602649 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.17759662 Turkish_Kayseri

How are the rules? The one with the biggest distance wins? :p

cass
08-06-2024, 09:54 PM
Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.15734449 Turkish_Balikesir
0.16379581 Turkish_Aydin
0.16401366 Turkish_Denizli
0.16476802 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.16493412 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.16542622 Turkish_Antalya
0.16631860 Turkish_Konya
0.16640872 Pamiri_Rushan
0.17038266 Turkish_Kayseri
0.17255530 Turkish_Sivas

Distance to: rothaer_wife2_scaled
0.16306985 Turkish_Balikesir
0.16734803 Pamiri_Rushan
0.16748488 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.17022828 Turkish_Aydin
0.17032489 Turkish_Denizli
0.17166294 Turkish_Antalya
0.17261550 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.17334037 Turkish_Konya
0.17602649 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.17759662 Turkish_Kayseri

How are the rules? The one with the biggest distance wins? :p


According to Frau Merkel's rules, you can invite your genetically closest person to your home.





IMHO, the share of the steppe population versus the eastern and western Mediterranean is quite interesting.

Figaro
08-06-2024, 10:15 PM
Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 13.7300% / 0.13730026
54.4 Pamiri_Rushan
28.0 Turkish_Balikesir
16.2 Moroccan_North
1.4 Lebanese_Christian


Distance to: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
0.14671097 Turkish_Balikesir
0.15073761 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.15206902 Pamiri_Rushan
0.15318030 Turkish_Denizli
0.15367857 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.15368496 Turkish_Aydin
0.15539004 Turkish_Antalya
0.15544461 Turkish_Konya
0.15905942 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16020161 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.16031615 Turkish_Sivas
0.16817067 Syrian_Aleppo
0.16819890 Turkish_Giresun
0.16877523 Kurd_Syria
0.16905346 Udi
0.16931565 Alevi_Dersim
0.17048741 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.17068999 Ezid
0.17280572 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.17322248 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.17341222 Tajik_Tajikistan_Kulob
0.17404015 Iranian_Central
0.17409289 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.17426892 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.17461752 Bukharian_Jew

Interesting that you score a little Lebanese Christian. From your French side probably? I know it’s not literal Lebanese ancestry, but speaking to some south/southeastern signal.

Gallop
08-06-2024, 10:24 PM
Closest non-European relatives v2.0

Then it is a test for distances or PCA.

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.13634023 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.13706523 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13794452 Turkish_Konya
0.13799648 Syrian_Aleppo
0.14034515 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14098959 Turkish_Aydin
0.14149204 Turkish_Denizli
0.14539946 Turkish_Antalya
0.14561071 Alawite
0.14654811 Lebanese_Muslim
0.14683407 Druze
0.14689853 Turkish_Sivas
0.14826531 Lebanese_Druze
0.14867067 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.14989993 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.15023942 Syrian
0.15066540 Lebanese_Christian
0.15117971 Syrian_Homs
0.15300493 Syrian_Hama
0.15303208 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.15324473 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.15466321 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.15657738 Bukharian_Jew
0.15688512 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.15701094 Alevi_Dersim
0.15727013 Turkish_Erzurum
0.15729608 Kurd_Syria
0.15765390 Jordanian
0.15784399 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.15792174 Karaite_Iraq
0.15882692 Ezid
0.15957459 Turkish_Giresun
0.16075965 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.16109296 Chaldean_Iraq
0.16144712 Turkish_Trabzon
0.16211994 Iraqi_Arab_West
0.16230983 Palestinian
0.16270908 Assyrian_Mardin
0.16284637 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey_o
0.16305456 Turkish_Ahiska
0.16348426 Kurd_Iraq
0.16391028 Assyrian
0.16427470 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.16430239 Iranian_Jew
0.16467623 Assyrian_o
0.16495673 Iraqi_Arab_Central
0.16525204 Tunisia
0.16555092 Kurd_USSR
0.16637300 Iranian_Central
0.16689164 Samaritan


Distance to: Father_scaled
0.13671743 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.13680548 Syrian_Aleppo
0.13873584 Turkish_Balikesir
0.13894082 Turkish_Konya
0.14124823 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14145795 Turkish_Aydin
0.14210902 Turkish_Denizli
0.14442830 Alawite
0.14487765 Lebanese_Muslim
0.14585705 Druze
0.14666560 Turkish_Antalya
0.14713253 Lebanese_Druze
0.14762108 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.14827143 Turkish_Sivas
0.14850641 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.14923639 Lebanese_Christian
0.14946944 Syrian
0.15040101 Syrian_Homs
0.15173245 Syrian_Hama
0.15194114 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.15203655 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.15363895 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.15553836 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.15600478 Jordanian
0.15706148 Bukharian_Jew
0.15732715 Kurd_Syria
0.15787210 Alevi_Dersim
0.15836696 Karaite_Iraq
0.15859781 Turkish_Erzurum
0.15877719 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.15973723 Ezid
0.16029082 Chaldean_Iraq
0.16061674 Palestinian
0.16076784 Tunisia
0.16101984 Turkish_Giresun
0.16150919 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.16162228 Assyrian_Mardin
0.16175629 Turkish_Trabzon
0.16229517 Iraqi_Arab_West
0.16326335 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey_o
0.16373869 Assyrian
0.16410477 Iranian_Jew
0.16417898 Kurd_Iraq
0.16455908 Assyrian_o
0.16462359 Turkish_Ahiska
0.16473311 Iraqi_Arab_Central
0.16541688 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.16579964 Kurd_USSR
0.16583104 Samaritan
0.16677173 Mandaean_Iraq


Distance to: brother_scaled
0.13523953 Syrian_Aleppo
0.13613613 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.13878089 Turkish_Konya
0.14032963 Turkish_Balikesir
0.14075203 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14114002 Alawite
0.14174993 Lebanese_Muslim
0.14210632 Druze
0.14291555 Turkish_Aydin
0.14340135 Turkish_Denizli
0.14378626 Lebanese_Druze
0.14429231 Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
0.14531626 Lebanese_Christian
0.14547419 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
0.14641780 Syrian
0.14777663 Turkish_Sivas
0.14788270 Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
0.14801870 Turkish_Antalya
0.14804455 Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
0.14858778 Syrian_Homs
0.14877864 Syrian_Hama
0.14965884 Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
0.15187161 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.15292783 Jordanian
0.15352266 Karaite_Iraq
0.15497231 Bukharian_Jew
0.15636318 Kurd_Syria
0.15654629 Alevi_Dersim
0.15689363 Turkish_Erzurum
0.15730985 Palestinian
0.15736681 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.15787758 Chaldean_Iraq
0.15804045 Tunisia
0.15834391 Ezid
0.15893391 Iraqi_Arab_West
0.15953452 Assyrian_Mardin
0.15994052 Turkish_Trabzon
0.15997057 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.16064110 Iranian_Jew
0.16087250 Samaritan
0.16112834 Assyrian
0.16136516 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey_o
0.16237530 Iraqi_Arab_Central
0.16255093 Kurd_Iraq
0.16263802 Turkish_Giresun
0.16374074 Turkish_Ahiska
0.16397824 Mandaean_Iraq
0.16402286 Assyrian_o
0.16402495 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.16428516 Iraqi_Jew

Balboa
08-06-2024, 10:31 PM
Target: Balboa_paternal
Distance: 7.1748% / 0.07174824
44.2 Lebanese_Christian
26.2 Turkish_Balikesir
15.4 Turkish_Trabzon
8.4 Druze
5.8 Moroccan_North

Target: Balboa_maternal
Distance: 14.2573% / 0.14257327
65.0 Lebanese_Christian
21.2 Moroccan_North
13.8 Turkish_Balikesir

Target: Balboa
Distance: 10.6185% / 0.10618455
70.2 Lebanese_Christian
17.8 Turkish_Balikesir
10.6 Moroccan_North
1.4 Turkish_Trabzon

cass
08-06-2024, 10:32 PM
@cass

If I add the one Tlingit sample I am closest to, my results completely change:



It seems that after removing all the strongly Yamnaya Finno-Ugrics, it is technically over sensitive to Siberian admixtures.

https://i.ibb.co/DVHMzmb/saa.jpg (https://ibb.co/DVHMzmb)


The goal was to capture the first non Finno-Ugric population of Sintashta.
The results of all those who took part in the experiment confirm that Pamiri_Rushan is a good candidate.

yngviktor
08-07-2024, 01:00 AM
Distance to: Dilan
0.12641982 Turkish_Balikesir
0.12693759 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.12905174 Turkish_Konya
0.13008473 Turkish_Aydin
0.13056926 Turkish_Denizli
0.13211996 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13492292 Turkish_Antalya
0.13613971 Turkish_Sivas
0.14024837 Syrian_Aleppo
0.14612401 Kurd_Syria
0.14643788 Alevi_Dersim
0.14779903 Turkish_Giresun
0.14784035 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.14851386 Turkish_Erzurum
0.14875448 Ezid
0.14883472 Alawite
0.14909868 Lebanese_Muslim
0.14926090 Bukharian_Jew
0.15009012 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.15012996 Druze
0.15033396 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.15159278 Lebanese_Druze
0.15203874 Syrian_Homs
0.15235382 Turkish_Ahiska
0.15255747 Syrian_Hama
---------------------------------------------------
Target: Dilan
Distance: 12.2617% / 0.12261710
52.0 Turkish_Balikesir
19.4 Pamiri_Rushan
12.6 Lebanese_Christian
9.2 Moroccan_North
6.8 Turkish_Trabzon

celticdragongod
08-07-2024, 01:48 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.15658275 Turkish_Balikesir
0.16437322 Turkish_Aydin
0.16437406 Turkish_Denizli
0.16464383 Tajik_Yaghnobi
0.16508733 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.16520182 Turkish_Konya
0.16576775 Turkish_Antalya
0.16607474 Pamiri_Rushan
0.16891466 Turkish_Kayseri
0.17095949 Turkish_Sivas
0.17497813 Pamiri_Shugnan
0.17752079 Syrian_Aleppo
0.17934950 Turkish_Giresun
0.17981443 Alevi_Dersim
0.18070402 Kurd_Syria
0.18085111 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.18202568 Ezid
0.18451337 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.18462804 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.18464313 Turkish_Erzurum
0.18516701 Bukharian_Jew
0.18575183 Iranian_Central
0.18618965 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.18686905 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.18700166 Pamiri_Badakhshan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 15.0023% / 0.15002289
46.0 Pamiri_Rushan
38.0 Turkish_Balikesir
15.6 Moroccan_North
0.4 Lebanese_Christian