Classify Palestinian Arab girl

[HungAryan]

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[GeistFaust]

She does not come off as an Arab to me, but I do realize there is a great deal of diversity among Arabs. I think some sort of Armenoid-Arabid would fit her best with some East-Mediterranid influences. Overall she just looks like an Orientalid variant.

[EvilDave]

East Mediterranid

[Sikeliot]

East Med, but not a European looking variant even with her blue eyes.

[HungAryan]

I don't really know, she looks quite European to me, even by Levanite standards.
It's maybe that I'm just way too liberal when it comes to determining who is white and who is not?

[Sikeliot]

The blue eyes and pale skin make her look more European than she probably looks by features.

[HungAryan]

The blue eyes and pale skin make her look more European than she probably looks by features.

She actually reminds me to one of my former classmates. The two look almost alike!

[exceeder]

Arabid and east-med. Rather orientalid in terms of her features but I don't think she would stand out in parts of southern europe. However, these pictures are VERY bright and I am under the impression her arabid features would be more visible with less intense lighting. Its rather difficult to tell with the bright light.

[Svartálfar]

Eastmed+Alpine.

[Eva]

She looks somewhat Iranian to me especially in the 5th pic

[Peyrol]

She might have some ashkenazi jewish european ancestor.

[HungAryan]

She might have some ashkenazi jewish european ancestor.

I doubt it, since she is Palestinian, not Israeli. However, allegedly she has some relatives in Syria.

[TheBorrebyViking]

Eastmed

[Übermensch]

Irano/afghan.

[Hess]

I don't see anything non European about her. I think she's a perfect example of how a knowledge of a person's background can bias classifications.

[Mordid]

I don't see anything non European about her. I think she's a perfect example of how a knowledge of a person's background can bias classifications.
Indeed, the only exotic trait I see from her is mostly her eyes color.

[Kacca]

she doesn't look palestinian, she's east med alpinic

[Sturmgewehr]

She looks very European, I don't know where u guys see Armenoid in her or Arabid but definitely Alpine/Mediterranid

[exceeder]

She looks very European, I don't know where u guys see Armenoid in her or Arabid but definitely Alpine/Mediterranid

To be honest, I should perhaps withhold the arabid label. But I do want to see pictures of her under a more natural lighting. I don't feel like I can properly see her appearance with so much brightness.

With the brightness, I can only positively say something east med. Perhaps I am indeed biased because you said she is palestinian.

Clearer pictures would be appreciated :)

[HungAryan]

I don't see anything non European about her. I think she's a perfect example of how a knowledge of a person's background can bias classifications.

Exactly.
She looks exactly like one of my former classmates.

I don't have problems with GeistFaust, but his classifications are extremely biased.
I bet if I told him that this girl was Italian, French or Hungarian, he would have said "Med+Alpinoid", or something like that.
He also constantly classifies Anatolian Turks as Turanid, despite the fact that they look more Middle Eastern than Central Asian.

[Saruman]

Mediterranid-Alpinoid with Arabid influences I guess. Photos aren't that perfect, Arabid influenced might be the eye region primarily.

Or maybe East Med - Alpinoid, East Meds can have some more exotic features.

[Agrippa]

Eastmediterranid-Alpinid with Armeno-Arabid influences possible.

If I would see her on the street, I would have guessed Turkish rather.

[HungAryan]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind her... :D
But then the children would be half-semitic mongrels :(

[Sylvanus]

Orientalid+alpinid with armenid, depigmented europid and central-asian influences. She looks like average middle-eastern without negrid or veddid admixture like as many arabs.

[Saruman]

with armenid

I bet these words are the most common word combination you have used on this forum.:D

[HungAryan]

Come on, she can't be Armenoid... :D

When I hear "Armenoid", ugly Jews come into my mind, like Shimon Peres.
However, this girl isn't Jewish - she is Palestinian.
And she isn't ugly either, she is fairly pretty, at least according to my taste :D

Or maybe she is a highly specialized variation of Armenoid?

[StonyArabia]

Orientalid+alpinid with armenid, depigmented europid and central-asian influences. She looks like average middle-eastern without negrid or veddid admixture like as many arabs.

It depends on what region, honestly there is no veddid admix in the Middle East. There is no negrid admix, but in parts of Oman and North Africa and not typical of all Middle Easterners. She looks Levantine but certainly not an Arabian type. She does not have Central Asian influeces, the influence that she has is Arabid especially in the eye region. Arabids are not light Caucasoid a pure Arabid is never as light as she is, the reason that she is light is because she has East-Med admix typical of the Levant.

[Sylvanus]

Come on, she can't be Armenoid... :D

When I hear "Armenoid", ugly Jews come into my mind, like Shimon Peres.
However, this girl isn't Jewish - she is Palestinian.
And she isn't ugly either, she is fairly pretty, at least according to my taste :D

Or maybe she is a highly specialized variation of Armenoid?


Lol, armenid =/= joos, moreover it is so interesting that some individual is incapable to distinguish the armenid influence to textbook armenid. Her nose has armenid traits, coz the alpinids haven't got fleeshy nose like this, moreover the so leptorhine orientalids or the central-asians with mongoliform traits. Furthermore her so broad face is obiviously central-asian ifluence, the reduced cromagnids have broad face too, but not kind of this.

[HungAryan]

Lol, armenid =/= joos, moreover it is so interesting that some individual is incapable to distinguish the armenid influence to textbook armenid. Her nose has armenid traits, coz the alpinids haven't got fleeshy nose like this, moreover the so leptorhine orientalids or the central-asians with mongoliform traits. Furthermore her so broad face is obiviously central-asian ifluence, the reduced cromagnids have broad face too, but not kind of this.

So, does that mean that the Turks had considerable genetic impact on the Levant?

[Sylvanus]

So, does that mean that the Turks had considerable genetic impact on the Levant?

Probably yes, and do not forget the invasion of the mongols and the earlier seljuk-turks and the later timurians side by side the slave trade — the sub-saharan region was not the only source of the slaves of midle-easterns.

[HungAryan]

Probably yes, and do not forget the invasion of the mongols and the earlier seljuk-turks and the later timurians side by side the slave trade — the sub-saharan region was not the only source of the slaves of midle-easterns.

They also had White European slaves, which could have contributed to the fact that many Levanites look European.
Thus, some of them could be descendants of Bosnian/Serbian/Bulgarian/Hungarian/Romanian/Greek/Armenian janissaries or deportees/slaves.

[StonyArabia]

The woman does not show Central Asian features. She is East-Med with Armenid and subtle Arabid admix. Then I heared Veddid admix in the Near East which was laughable to say the least.

[HungAryan]

Then I heared Veddid admix in the Near East which was laughable to say the least.

Actually, there is a lot of Veddoid and Negroid admixture in the Arabian Peninsula, especially in Yemen and Oman.

[Sylvanus]

Actually, there is a lot of Veddoid and Negroid admixture in the Arabian Peninsula, especially in Yemen and Oman.


Moreover in the Levantine or Mesopotamia, however in the Caucasus, Anatolia or in the Zagros is not significant. The ancient semites were rather orientalid and so similar to mediterranids, pontids and the proto-nordids (!) coz probably the Middle-East was the urheimat of the aurignacids so long time ago. But the time ais changed, tempora modantur... Check the arab in the General Caucasian pic!

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4045

[HungAryan]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4045

Those pics won't load for me.

EDIT: Ah yes, now I see...

http://www.cedarseed.com/fire/humantypes2.jpg

[billErobreren]

She looks somewhat Iranian to me especially in the 5th pic

Agreed. she is pretty cute though:embarrassed could she fit in Armenia based on her looks I mean

East Med seems reasonable enough

[StonyArabia]

Actually, there is a lot of Veddoid and Negroid admixture in the Arabian Peninsula, especially in Yemen and Oman.

No one denies their is SSA elements in Oman and Yemen and especially their coastal regions, we are speaking of the Levant, and nor Arabia itself has any Veddiod admix just nonsense.

[HungAryan]

No one denies their is SSA elements in Oman and Yemen and especially their coastal regions, we are speaking of the Levant, and nor Arabia itself has any Veddiod admix just nonsense.

I heavily doubt that the Levant has SSA elements, let alone Veddoid admixture...
But the Arabian peninsula does have.
Remember that the ancestors of the Australian aborigines - the first Humans to leave Africa - migrated thourgh the Arabian Peninsula, Iran, India and Indonesia into Australia. ;)
Not everyone migrated, some stayed in Arabia, others stayed in India (they became the Veddoid Dravidians), and some stayed in Indonesia, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNqrjYrZjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_da9ohx7BSM


4kNqrjYrZjM
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Watch them, especially the second one.

[Svartálfar]

No one denies their is SSA elements in Oman and Yemen and especially their coastal regions, we are speaking of the Levant, and nor Arabia itself has any Veddiod admix just nonsense.

Actually both the Levant and Arabia have small drops of veddoid/negroid/mongoloid blood (5/10 %).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8bStjnHa3Zk/TdVIIUThPXI/AAAAAAAADvk/lUG36FJBtB4/s1600/ADMIXTURE_10.png

[Sikeliot]

Arabians have Horn African influences but not Veddid.