Talysh Iranic people of the Southern Caucasus

[StonyArabia]

The Talysh are an Iranic people who live in the Southern most parts of Azerbaijan.

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[Rereg]

Are they similar to Azeris?

[StonyArabia]

Are they similar to Azeris?

Yes, the original Azeris were Iranic speakers who eventually began to shift to the Oghuz Turkish tongue in the 11th century when the Turkoman tribes began settling in the region, as well Azerbaijan is more Turkic in blood than Anatolian Turkey of modern times. The Talysh represent the non-Turkized Azeris. As well in look and culture the resemble more so the Kurds and Persians of Iran than anyone else.

[EvilDave]

They seems mixed Mediterranid/East Med and Turanid/Mongolid

[Padre Organtino]

They are less Turanid than Azeris. Otherwise quite similar. They are also heavily assimilated as Azeris practice Turkification policy.

[Nairi]

They are one of indigeneous people of Caucasian Albania (currently called Azerbaijan).Non assimilated Talysh ( along with other indigeneous people-Lezgins,Avars,Udins) are fighting against genocide by Azeris.

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The Pan-Turkist government of Azerbaijan has implemented a policy of forceful oppression and integration of minorities, including Talysh and Iranian-Azaris.

The Talysh are an Iranian people. The Talysh language is one of the Northwestern Iranian languages. In Iran there is a Talesh County in Gilan.

Help Save These Wonderful Iranian People From Pan-Turkist Violence and Suppression.

The U.S. permits this behavior to secure oil - and openly allows the autocratic Pan-Turkist government of Azerbaijan to ethnically cleanse Iranian people.

Pan-Turkism is a violent political ideology that attempts to invade and "Turkify" (ethnically cleanse) the original inhabitants of land. The Armenians and several other groups have suffered under Pan-Turkic ideologies.

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[Zephyr]

Yes, the original Azeris were Iranic speakers who eventually began to shift to the Oghuz Turkish tongue in the 11th century when the Turkoman tribes began settling in the region, as well Azerbaijan is more Turkic in blood than Anatolian Turkey of modern times. The Talysh represent the non-Turkized Azeris. As well in look and culture the resemble more so the Kurds and Persians of Iran than anyone else.

Is there any difference between azeris from the currently independent Azerbaijan and the iranian Azerbaijan?

[StonyArabia]

Is there any difference between azeris from the currently independent Azerbaijan and the iranian Azerbaijan?

Well there is small difference but largely they are of the same genetic stock. The difference is that Azeris in Iran don't feel themselves as Turkic but more Iranic and just adopted the Turkic tongue as it was lingua franca of sorts. They also are in a way very much Persian/Iranian in behavior. The Azeris from Azerbaijan have always identified themselves as Turks. They also both share the same religion Shia Islam.

[Zephyr]

The Azeris from Azerbaijan have always identified themselves as Turks.

Hm, but wasn't this north-south division carved upon the russian acquisition of 1813? At best they would identify more with Russia than Iran, not with Turks, at least not any more than their southern counterparts, being basically the same people. :confused:

[StonyArabia]

Hm, but wasn't this north-south division carved upon the russian acquisition of 1813? At best they would identify more with Russia than Iran, not with Turks, at least not any more than their southern counterparts, being basically the same people. :confused:

Yes Northern Azerbaijan was taken from the Persian empire. However they would not identify with Russia with religion and a language that they share more with Turks than anyone else. For example when the Russians took over the Northern Caucasus, to this day the people don't identify with them because of strong resistance against Russifiction and have a different language and culture. No Caucasians identify with the Russians especially if they are Muslims and speak Caucasian, Turkic or Iranic tongues, the only exception is the Tatars.

[Zephyr]

Well, my doubt aroused from the fact that you seemed to imply that such division has always existed; when you say that "Azeris from Azerbaijan have always identified themselves as Turks", it looks that you mean that even under persian rule, that part of them has always felt Turk while the other not so much.

Can you understand my doubt? :)