What the hell is Borreby?

[cass]

Was this skull that was described 100 years ago studied by radiocarbon dating? If so, how is it dated?



10,648–10,282 cal.
KoelbjergMan
NEO254:NEO254,0.112685,0.112724,0.188937,0.176036, 0.137872,0.058846,0.015041,0.031845,0.080991,0.000 547,-0.018025,-0.009741,0.0278,0.006744,0.044516,0.051312,0.01069 1,0.009122,-0.004525,0.046147,0.092212,0.016199,-0.039686,-0.150142,0.016645

Mesolithic skeleton 5,916–5,795 cal.
RødhalsMan

NEO645:NEO645,0.134311,0.116786,0.186298,0.199615, 0.148951,0.051037,0.013631,0.038998,0.076696,0.002 369,-0.009419,-0.015586,0.021407,0.00234,0.046824,0.069079,-0.008996,0.011909,0.001634,0.054151,0.085474,0.007 172,-0.04326,-0.14725,0.007305

Borreby 4,300–3,700 cal
NEO735:NEO735,0.124067,0.122879,0.073916,0.060724, 0.032006,0.022869,0.0047,-0.000923,0.003272,-0.00492,0.000812,0.005395,-0.00669,-0.00812,0.018322,0.016706,0.017602,0.00152,-0.003017,0.005127,0.017095,-0.010263,-0.005423,0.004217,0.001796
NEO737:NEO737,0.122929,0.12491,0.065996,0.064923,0 .034468,0.023985,0.00893,0.01223,-0.001432,-0.004738,0.001137,0.004346,-0.014569,-0.014726,0.001764,0.012198,-0.002217,0.010262,0.006411,0.004752,0.025081,0.010 51,-0.016515,-0.00241,-0.008502


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-pHAqMPIRgfdXJuf9B4ZChOcJlBLhFe-/view
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06862-3

https://i.ibb.co/CKDxs6w/Vahaduo-Global-25-North-Europe-PCA-52.png (https://ibb.co/VY5XpxL)

[Upsilander]

645 shares a lot with Loschbour and other more ancient WHG

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-023-06862-3/MediaObjects/41586_2023_6862_Fig2_HTML.png?as=webp

Other two have faint matches with Scando postneo.

By the way, Borreby is just a castle in Denmark :p

[cass]

I mean this guy>

https://i.ibb.co/wCgy5vz/s-l1600.webp (https://ibb.co/sQRj8BV)


The answer is probably here but I don't have access to it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02437455

[Athalafuns]

Here 14 individuals are mentioned, found in Borreby and dated between 3300BC–2800BC: https://cir.cenieh.es/bitstream/20.500.12136/3114/1/Cranial%20fluctuating%20asymmetry%20in%20Danish%20 populations%20from%20the%20Neolithic%20to%20the%20 Early%20Modern%20Age_Olsen%20et%20al_2023.pdf

[Upsilander]

I mean this guy>

https://i.ibb.co/wCgy5vz/s-l1600.webp (https://ibb.co/sQRj8BV)


The answer is probably here but I don't have access to it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02437455

It looks like a crossbreed between CM and Neanderthal

[cass]

It looks like a crossbreed between CM and Neanderthal

But which sample is it exactly?

[Upsilander]

But which sample is it exactly?

I assume 645 would be the closest to it.

[cass]

I assume 645 would be the closest to it.



https://i.ibb.co/1ZysbLQ/Zrzut-ekranu-2-9-2024-232352-www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.jpg (https://ibb.co/VVnH3t9)

Unfortunately not. I'm afraid that it was rather a much later site.

[Upsilander]

Im not sure what you are trying to figure here.

[lei.talk]

...

a. superciliary ridge.
b. coronal suture.
c. the apex of the lamboidal suture.
d. the occipital protuberance.
e. the auditory foramen.


click-on this image to read more
https://i.imgur.com/88oYgZe.png (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm#BORREBY)


the artist george busk (https://www.google.com/search?q=+MR.+G.+BUSK+F.R.S.)
imagined every thing below the red line
for charles lyell's famous book (https://archive.org/details/B-001-002-187/page/n117/mode/1up?view=theater).

[lei.talk]

https://i.imgur.com/58msrEp.png (https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.222580/page/n140/mode/1up?view=theater&q=borreby)

[cass]

https://i.imgur.com/58msrEp.png (https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.222580/page/n140/mode/1up?view=theater&q=borreby)

So we know it's just the upper part of the skull.

Unfortunately, he does not describe the archaeological find.

Do we have any reliable source of dating this archaeological site using radiocarbon method?



Is there any certainty that this is not a site from the Bronze Age from Allentoft at all?

LNBA phase II: an intermediate stage largely coinciding with the Dagger epoch (around 4,300–3,700 cal. bp), in which Danish individuals cluster with central and western European LNBA individuals dominated by males with distinct sub-lineages of R1b-L513 (Extended Data Fig. 8c,d). Among them are individuals from Borreby (NEO735, 737) and Madesø (NEO752).