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ScandinavianCelt
09-04-2024, 01:54 PM
Post your IllustrativeDNA DIY Modern 5 Pop with all samples included.

Mine:

39.4% NW Euro: Irish
32.2% NW Euro: French Normandy
14.4% East Europe: Lithuanian North Zemaitija
6.2% Baltic Finnic: Finnish Southeast
4.8% West Asia & Caucasus: Kaitag Dagestan
3.0% South Asia: Indian Subcontinent Bania Gupta

Balboa
09-04-2024, 02:02 PM
Sardinian 53.4%

Southeast Europe 23.6%

Greek (Epirus) 22.8%
Greek (Peloponnese Laconia Monemvasia Municipality) 0.8%

West Asia and the Caucasus :17.6%

Armenian (Gaziantep) 11.2%
Samaritan:3.6%
Laz (Turkey) 2.8%

Italian Peninsula and Sicily 3.4%

Italian (Lazio) 3.4%

North Africa 2.0%

Egyptian (Tanta) 1.6%
Moroccan Berber (Ghomara)0.4

ScandinavianCelt
09-04-2024, 02:05 PM
Sardinian 53.4%

Southeast Europe 23.6%

Greek (Epirus) 22.8%
Greek (Peloponnese Laconia Monemvasia Municipality) 0.8%

West Asia and the Caucasus :17.6%

Armenian (Gaziantep) 11.2%
Samaritan:3.6%
Laz (Turkey) 2.8%

Italian Peninsula and Sicily 3.4%

Italian (Lazio) 3.4%

North Africa 2.0%

Egyptian (Tanta) 1.6%
Moroccan Berber (Ghomara)0.4

I think you're the most southern European guy on the forum genetically speaking

Dušan
09-04-2024, 02:09 PM
East Slavic 47.8%
Russian (Smolensk) 26.8%
Ukrainian (Volyn) 17.0%
Ukrainian (Kharkiv) 4.0%


Mainland Greece 29.6%
Greek (Peloponnese Messinia Messini) 20.4%
Greek (Peloponnese Elis) 9.2%


Balkan Slav 15.2%
Serb (Croatia) 15.2%


Sardinian 7.4%
Sardinian (Benetutti) 7.4%

nittionia
09-04-2024, 02:10 PM
Only my dad has Illustrative DNA:

https://i.imgur.com/y37yWBB.png
https://i.imgur.com/7mBU87O.png
https://i.imgur.com/hmBe8su.png

hazmatnik
09-04-2024, 02:14 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh03986Z/Screenshot-20240904-101146-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/14H1jtmH)

EasternLusitanian
09-04-2024, 02:15 PM
West Europe
37.6%
French (Oïl)
37.6%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte Cote-d'Or)
29.0%
French (Nouvelle-Aquitaine Charente-Maritime)
8.6%
Southwest Europe
30.2%
Basque
29.4%
Basque (Spain)
25.6%
Basque (Navarre Center)
3.8%
French (Occitan)
0.8%
French (Occitanie Gard)
0.8%
West Asia and the Caucasus
13.6%
Levant
13.6%
Lebanese Christian (Melkite)
13.6%
North Africa
13.2%
Maghreb
13.2%
Moroccan Berber (Tiznit)
7.6%
Moroccan Berber (Senhaja de Srair)
5.6%
Sardinia
5.4%
Sardinian
5.4%
Sardinian (North)
5.4%

~Elizabeth~
09-04-2024, 02:33 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/BnWM0Rdt/page-1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Dw9VRCcc/page-2.png

Xavier727
09-04-2024, 02:41 PM
Northwest Europe
81.2%
Scandinavia
52.0%
Norwegian (Bergen)
39.4%
Norwegian
12.6%
French (Oïl)
24.6%
French (Normandy Calvados)
24.6%
British Isles
4.6%
Irish
4.6%
East Europe
7.2%
East Slavic
4.4%
Russian (Pinezhsky)
4.4%
Baltic
2.8%
Latvian
2.8%
Southwest Europe
6.6%
Spanish
6.6%
Castilian (Castile and Leon Soria)
6.6%
West Asia and the Caucasus
3.6%
Northeast Caucasus
3.6%
Dargin (Dagestan)
3.6%
Central Asia
1.4%
Tajik
1.4%
Pamiri (Shugnan)
1.4%

ScandinavianCelt
09-04-2024, 02:42 PM
Post your IllustrativeDNA DIY Modern 5 Pop with all samples included.

Mine:

39.4% NW Euro: Irish
32.2% NW Euro: French Normandy
14.4% East Europe: Lithuanian North Zemaitija
6.2% Baltic Finnic: Finnish Southeast
4.8% West Asia & Caucasus: Kaitag Dagestan
3.0% South Asia: Indian Subcontinent Bania Gupta

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How does YOUR IllustrativeDNA result here compare to the Vahaduo official Modern Scaled G25 reduced to R5P?

IllustrativeDNA "fit" (distance): 1.96%
G25 Modern Scaled (not averages): 0.94%

Using the same data set of coordinates, I get this:

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 0.9447% / 0.00944659 | R5P
67.2 Irish
13.4 Polish
9.8 Karelian
6.6 Spanish_Valencia
3.0 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh_East

Solitude
09-04-2024, 02:48 PM
Is with a little bit of overfit

https://i.postimg.cc/1Xx49zLV/Screenshot-20240904-154620-Chrome.jpg

global modern R5P

Target: nightmarecity_scaled
Distance: 1.4019% / 0.01401877 | R5P
49.0 Portuguese
23.8 Cameroon_Aghem
12.0 French_Auvergne
9.2 Karitiana
6.0 Dutch

Xavier727
09-04-2024, 03:06 PM
Target: Scaled
Distance: 0.5399% / 0.00539935 | R5P
Populations: 19 | Iterations: 4705 | Time: 67.14s
29.8 Danish
28.4 Irish
22.2 Dutch
16.6 Swiss French
3.0 Tlingit

DIY Modern 5 population: Fit: 1.742 (Good)

Dušan
09-04-2024, 03:23 PM
How does YOUR IllustrativeDNA result here compare to the Vahaduo official Modern Scaled G25 reduced to R5P?




There are similarities.


Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.9318% / 0.01931756 | R5P
38.0 Greek_Macedonia
32.8 Russian_Smolensk
19.8 Ukrainian_Sumy
8.6 Sardinian
0.8 Polish_Kashubian

tk'es
09-04-2024, 07:23 PM
https://i.ibb.co/pK15TkP/caucasus.png
https://i.ibb.co/fpVqY49/europe.png
https://i.ibb.co/0YXN7M5/asia.png

Athalafuns
09-04-2024, 09:20 PM
Fit: 1.184 (Good)

66.4% Southwest Euro (23.2 Basque + 35.2 Spanish + 8 French Occitan)
22.6% West Europe (French Oïl)
4.4% North Africa (Maghreb)
4% West Asia and the Caucasus (3.6 Northeast Caucasus + 0.4 Iranic)
2.6% Horn of Africa (Beja)

Kostek
09-06-2024, 06:11 PM
East Europe
69.0%
Baltic
66.0%
Lithuanian (South Zemaitija)
50.6%
Lithuanian (West Zemaitija)
15.4%
East Slavic
3.0%
Ukrainian (Volyn)
3.0%


Southeast Europe
18.2%
Mainland Greece
18.2%
Greek (Epirus)
18.2%


Baltic Finnic
6.4%
Finland
6.4%
Finnish (Southwest)
6.4%


Northwest Europe
3.4%
French (Oïl)
3.4%
French (Grand Est Ardennes)
3.4%


North Africa
3.0%
Maghreb
3.0%
Tunisian (Jendouba)
3.0%

Thracian
09-07-2024, 10:14 PM
Southeast Europe
65.0%

Mainland Greece
29.8%
Greek (Thessaly)
23.4%
Greek (Peloponnese Laconia Monemvasia Municipality)
6.4%
Balkan Turkish
19.0%
Turkish (Rumeli)
19.0%
Balkan Slav
12.0%
Bosniak (Croatia)
12.0%
Aegean Sea
4.2%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria)
4.2%
West Europe
11.6%

French (Oïl)
11.6%
French (Grand Est Marne)
7.6%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte Cote-d'Or)
4.0%
South Central Asia
9.4%

Pashtun
9.4%
Pashtun (Tarkalani)
9.4%
West Asia and the Caucasus
8.8%

North Caucasus
8.8%
Abazin
8.8%
Southwest Asia
5.2%

Arabian Peninsula
5.2%
Emirati (A)
3.8%
Saudi
1.4%

Summary
Southeast Europe
65.0%
West Europe
11.6%
South Central Asia
9.4%
West Asia and the Caucasus
8.8%
Southwest Asia

keterpier
09-20-2024, 10:22 AM
West Asia and the Caucasus
66.4%
Anatolian Turkish
21.2%
Turkish (Sivas)
21.2%
Azerbaijani
19.2%
Azerbaijani (Turkey)
19.2%
Anatolian Greek
9.6%
Greek (Kayseri)
9.6%
North Caucasus
6.6%
Ossetian
6.6%
Mesopotamia
4.4%
Assyrian (Turkey)
4.4%
Eastern Black Sea
3.8%
Greek (Trabzon)
3.8%
South Caucasus
1.6%
Georgian (Svaneti)
1.6%
Southeast Europe
23.8%
Aegean Sea
12.0%
Greek (Ikaria-Samos)
12.0%
Mainland Greece
11.8%
Greek (Epirus)
11.8%
Sardinia
5.6%
Sardinian
5.6%
Sardinian (Benetutti)
5.6%
West Siberia
2.8%
Nenets
2.8%
Nenets (Tundra)
2.8%
South Asia
1.4%
Indian Subcontinent
1.4%
Malayalam Thiyya
1.4%

Dick
09-25-2024, 06:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/nxuEUUw.png
https://i.imgur.com/c78no5W.png
https://i.imgur.com/ksnBJJf.png

Geba
09-25-2024, 08:28 AM
Typical North Slav :)


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ColaGusano
09-25-2024, 09:09 AM
Is illustrativedna based on k13?

Live The Magic
09-25-2024, 10:39 AM
Is illustrativedna based on k13?

No

Dušan
09-25-2024, 10:45 AM
Is illustrativedna based on k13?

On G25

ColaGusano
09-25-2024, 11:18 AM
On G25

Is g25 average scaled only europe or is it more ethnicities? Thanks for replying.

OrhanU
09-25-2024, 11:22 AM
Southeast Europe
60.6%
Mainland Greece
48.6%
Greek (Eastern Rumelia)
24.6%
Greek (Peloponnese Laconia Monemvasia Municipality)
18.2%
Greek (Epirus)
5.8%
Aegean Sea
12.0%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria)
10.2%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria-Samos)
1.8%


West Asia and the Caucasus
21.4%
Northeast Caucasus
20.2%
Tabasaran (Dagestan)
20.2%
Levant
1.2%
Lebanese Christian (Melkite)
1.2%


East Europe
13.4%
Baltic
10.0%
Lithuanian (East Aukstaitija)
10.0%
East Slavic
3.4%
Ukrainian (Kiev)
3.4%


Southeast Asia
2.8%
Philippines
2.8%
Igorot (Philippines)
2.8%


North Africa
1.8%
Maghreb
1.8%
Moroccan (Ouarzazate)
1.6%
Moroccan Berber (Tiznit)
0.2%

Beowulf
09-25-2024, 12:01 PM
Southwest Europe


55.6%


Northwest Europe


13.8%


Baltic Finnic


12.6%


West Asia and the Caucasus


9.6%


East Europe


8.4%

ColaGusano
09-25-2024, 12:11 PM
Which is the best calculator to use?

R1b-L51
09-25-2024, 02:36 PM
Southwest Europe (50,4% Basque-Aquitanian + 20,8% North Spanish = Basquid 50,4% + Astyr 15,6% + Catalan 5,2%)
71.2%


North Africa (13,6% Moroccan-Oujda close Rif = 13,6% Berber/Rifeño)
13.6%

West Asia&Caucasus (5,8% Georgian Imereti krashnodar+ 1,4% Greek,NW Turkey = 7,2% from Goth?)
7.2%

East Europe (5,4% Ukrainian Volyn = 5,4% from Goth?)
5.4%

Volga-Ural (Mari-El 2,6 % = 2,6% from Goth?)
2.6%

As a summary.

50.4% North Iberian + 15.6% Visigoth/Suevi/Alani from "Gothic Plains" (Campi Gothici or Campi Gothorum) settled by Visigoths who fled from Aquitaine Gaul after their conquest by the Franks. + 13.6% Neolithic North African


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varangian princess
09-25-2024, 03:38 PM
Typical North Slav :)



I wouldn’t say it’s typical with that high South European and Finnic percentages.

Two North Slavic results. East European percentage is high despite other admixtures.

https://i.imgur.com/S1Sp5Fa.jpeg


https://i.imgur.com/x7rQHST.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/ShBX8Wz.jpeg

Ketchup
09-25-2024, 04:42 PM
https://i.vgy.me/fbAJvP.jpg

https://i.vgy.me/8WNh8y.jpg

Jingle Bell
09-25-2024, 04:47 PM
Sub-Saharan African
44.4%
Southwest Europe
36.4%
North Africa
13.6%
West Asia and the Caucasus
3.2%
Americas
2.4%

Feiichy
09-25-2024, 08:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/da1MQB1.png

East-Central Europe
46.8%
West Slavic
46.8%
Slovakian
46.8%

Southeast Europe
26.0%
Balkan Slav
24.0%
Bosniak (Croatia)
18.8%
Serb (Bosnia)
5.2%
Aegean Sea
2.0%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria)
2.0%

East Europe
14.0%
Baltic
14.0%
Lithuanian (East Aukstaitija)
14.0%

Sardinia
9.2%
Sardinian

West Asia and the Caucasus
4.0%
South Caucasus
4.0%
Georgian (Samegrelo)
4.0%

Geba
09-25-2024, 08:45 PM
I wouldn’t say it’s typical with that high South European and Finnic percentages.

Two North Slavic results. East European percentage is high despite other admixtures.


When you mix Southeast European with Northeast European you get East European in the end. :)

Your results are more northern than mine, still I am very Slavic. 96% East European on 23&me.

Feiichy
09-25-2024, 08:47 PM
When you mix Southeast European with Northeast European you get East European in the end. :)

Your results are more northern than mine, still I am very Slavic. 96% East European on 23&me.

What modern population is closest to you?

Geba
09-25-2024, 08:51 PM
What modern population is closest to you?

Slovaks. But it seems Illustrative DNA is obsessed with Slovaks, in mixed mode Slovaks are given generously as well. I have no Slovak ancestry.

Feiichy
09-25-2024, 09:17 PM
Slovaks. But it seems Illustrative DNA is obsessed with Slovaks, in mixed mode Slovaks are given generously as well. I have no Slovak ancestry.

Agree. I'm always modeled with them which is irritating

But surprising you cluster with them considering you're from Latvia. Do you have any Carpathian Ukrainian or SE Polish ancestors? Just wondering why are you shifted towards east central instead of NE Europeans

majevica
09-25-2024, 09:20 PM
Southeast Europe 44.6%

Bosniak (Croatia) 25.4%

Greek (Epirus) 17.0%
Greek (Peloponnese Argolis) 2.2%

East Europe 30.0%

Lithuanian (East Aukstaitija) 24.6%

Ukrainian (Volyn) 3.6%
Russian (Belgorod) 1.8%

West Europe 12.6%

French (Grand Est Marne) 12.6%

Sardinian (North) 6.4%

West Asia and the Caucasus 6.4%

Hamsheni 6.0%
Mazandarani 0.4%

Geba
09-25-2024, 09:35 PM
But surprising you cluster with them considering you're from Latvia. Do you have any Carpathian Ukrainian or SE Polish ancestors? Just wondering why are you shifted towards east central instead of NE Europeans

I was born in Latvia and speak Latvian, but I have Polish, Belarusian and Ukrainian ancestry. I should be more northern than Slovaks, but I wonder if I have minor Roma or Ashkenazi ancestry which throws me further to the South. I also look quite Southeast European, the reason why I made DNA tests in the first place, Still, what I get by commercial DNA testing is nearly 100% East Europe. I have also church records up to 16 century, but of course many female lineages are unknown.

Selene
09-25-2024, 09:37 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Df1XmLkG/IMG-20240925-233527.jpg (https://postimg.cc/c64HbKJ1)

R1b-L51
09-25-2024, 09:40 PM
I was born in Latvia and speak Latvian, but I have Polish, Belarusian and Ukrainian ancestry. I should be more northern than Slovaks, but I wonder if I have minor Roma or Ashkenazi ancestry which throws me further to the South. I also look quite Southeast European, the reason why I made DNA tests in the first place, Still, what I get by commercial DNA testing is nearly 100% East Europe. I have also church records up to 16 century, but of course many female lineages are unknown.

The Ashkenazi is an invention, they are just Khazars, children of Attila mixed with ethnic Turks (not the Turks). Saying that they are 12% Jewish is stupid, surely the Palestinians are 70% Jewish or Semitic before them.

Geba
09-25-2024, 09:56 PM
The Ashkenazi is an invention, they are just Khazars, children of Attila mixed with ethnic Turks (not the Turks). Saying that they are 12% Jewish is stupid, surely the Palestinians are 70% Jewish or Semitic before them.

The thing is that I would be happy to be Jewish, but DNA tests tell me it is 0 or 1% AJ in the best case. ;)

R1b-L51
09-25-2024, 10:04 PM
The thing is that I would be happy to be Jewish, but DNA tests tell me it is 0 or 1% AJ in the best case. ;)

Jewish is a religion, before the Muslim invasion supposedly all Palestinians (former kingdom of Judea) must have been Jews.
But the funniest thing is when an Ashkenazi Pole accuses others of being anti-Semitic, when a Pole could never be genetically Semitic...

The argument is the same, I have a 12% coincidence with the Italians (because of the Mediterranean), then since I am Catholic I think they should give me a few lands in the Vatican and in Rome, because I am Roman...
Would you see sense in it?

You would just call me crazy, because this is the same thing that happens with the Poles in Israel. In reality they are only used by the USA to be cannon bait (similar to the Ukrainians).

Personally, if Palestine and Israel blow up, I don't care at all, but simply if you think about it, each one seeks his own destiny.

Petalpusher
09-25-2024, 10:17 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/5bYpRMRW/illu3.png





https://c.tenor.com/1WGJZiTjkjQAAAAC/tenor.gif

Made me do it

gixajo
09-25-2024, 10:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/pJuuPGU.png

vasiliki23
10-01-2024, 11:55 PM
• Southeast Europe 74.6%
o Mainland Greece 73.2%
o Greek (Peloponnese Messinia Messini) 39.2%
o Greek (Heptanese Corfu) 20.8%
o Greek (East Macedonia and Thrace) 7.2%
o Greek (Epirus) 6.0%
o Balkan Slav 1.4%
o Bosniak (Croatia) 1.4%
• West Europe 19.8%
o French (Arpitan) 19.8%
o French (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes Rhone) 19.8%
• Sardinia 5.6%
o Sardinian 5.6%

Brandon
10-08-2024, 11:15 PM
Irish
43.0%
French (Normandy Calvados)
39.2%
Finnish (Southeast)
8.2%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte Cote-d'Or)
7.0%
Western Uttar Pradeshi Jatt Malik Muslim
1.6%
Brahmin (Kerala Kurichiya)
1.0%