Which haplogroup (other than your own) is your favorite?

[Johnson Reed]

For me, definitely R1b-L21, the Irish haplogroup.

[majevica]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_D-CTS3946

[Johnson Reed]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_D-CTS3946

Interesting why do you like it?

[rothaer]

I have no and I am pretty neutral on that topic. I consider Y DNA haplogroups overrated. Although I must admit that I would not like to have E or J to be perfectly honest.

[Mortimer]

For me, definitely R1b-L21, the Irish haplogroup.

Ydna H, H1

[Upsilander]

C or G because they represent some important indigenous populations of the Paleolithic.

But i'm happy with my Papuan Kriegsmarine U106.

[Peterski]

R1a-M417, the main Polish haplogroup.

[Blondie]

R1b-BY194358

Peterski's german haplogroup.

[Peterski]

R1b-BY194358

Peterski's german haplogroup.

It is not German, it is Celtic, it was discovered in ancient (Iron Age) samples from France and one Roman Age Croatia sample.

[R1b-L51]

Perhaps J2 the cradle of civilitation...

Present in Ingush 87.4%, Chechens 55.2%, Georgians 21%-72%, Azeris 24%-48%, Abkhaz 25%, Balkars 24%, Ossetians 24%, Armenians 21%-24%, Circassians 21.8%, and other groups.

[rothaer]

It is not German, it is Celtic, it was discovered in ancient (Iron Age) samples from France and one Roman Age Croatia sample.

And to a recent Pole it was assumingly mediated either by a local Germanic (as for the time of the Slavic expansion there is no indication for not yet assimilated into Germanics Celts) or by a German. Agreed to that assumption?

[Peterski]

And to a recent Pole it was assumingly mediated either by a local Germanic (as for the time of the Slavic expansion there is no indication for not yet assimilated into Germanics Celts) or by a German. Agreed to that assumption?

There are no German carriers of R1b-L617. A more likely origin would be Scottish or other British as it is common in the British Isles. But you know that my surname is Slavic.

[Johnson Reed]

It is not German, it is Celtic, it was discovered in ancient (Iron Age) samples from France and one Roman Age Croatia sample.

Do you have a surname with a Celtic root or is your paternal line normal Polish? Sullivanski, Kennedywicz?

[Blondie]

It is not German, it is Celtic, it was discovered in ancient (Iron Age) samples from France and one Roman Age Croatia sample.

Germans are celto-germanic, your haplo is obviously comming from germans. In your case its german haplogroup mein Bruder :)

[Johnson Reed]

There are no German carriers of R1b-L617. A more likely origin would be Scottish or other British as it is common in the British Isles. But you know that my surname is Slavic.

Layne Staley (of Alice in Chains) had a Germanic surname (originally Stehli, Stählin, something like that), but he had Georgian Y-DNA, apparently (G-M201).

[Peterski]

Layne Staley (of Alice in Chains) had a Germanic surname (originally Stehli, Stählin, something like that), but he had Georgian Y-DNA, apparently (G-M201).

I have a Slavic surname.

My mom has a Germanic surname - Meller - but Meller's haplogroup turned out to be Slavic R1a-FTD42626.

[Peterski]

In your case its german haplogroup mein Bruder :)

It had to be absorbed before the emergence of surnames because my surname is Slavic.

[rothaer]

There are no German carriers of R1b-L617. A more likely origin would be Scottish or other British as it is common in the British Isles. But you know that my surname is Slavic.

I see the latter casually as a result of a common Celtic origin. I agree to that German is not likely but an indigenous Germanic is.

[rothaer]

It had to be absorbed before the emergence of surnames because my surname is Slavic.

Germans exist from abt. 800 AD and the Slavic heriditable family names are from when? 1500 AD? Or younger or older?

[rothaer]

I have a Slavic surname.

My mom has a Germanic surname - Meller - but Meller's haplogroup turned out to be Slavic R1a-FTD42626.

It's German but unfortunately not Germanic. Müller, Mühle comes from Latin molina. The Germanic word for mill is kvarn, kvern, kürn.

Btw. YFull doesn't know FTD42626.

[Peterski]

Btw. YFull doesn't know FTD42626.

It is under R1a-Y54572 (R1a-BY30773) but Meller is not on YFull, maybe I will upload him later.

[vader]

In an alternative universe it woulda been interesting to be E-M183 because my parent’s hail from an area that used to be the moorish capital. I get some matches of people with it.

Honorable mentions would be G2a, or J2

[Annie999]

For me, definitely R1b-L21, the Irish haplogroup.

That's also my favorite haplogroup after my own, because it's my husband's. (He's mostly Basque, with distant Irish as well - L21 plots in Basque country too).

[Valenman]

I1 and I2
Maternal H1 and H3

[majevica]

Interesting why do you like it?

Brother haplo of E and alternatively I‘d say J

[gixajo]

R1a-M417, the main Polish haplogroup.

I can give to you my absurd R1a-M417 (Z645-Z283-Z282-Z280-YP5000-Y45355) and in exchange you give me your R1b.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

For me, definitely R1b-L21, the Portuguese haplogroup.

Fixed ;)

[tk'es]

none, only my own



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/J2-Y-DNA-Haplogroup-Map-J2-M172-Map-J2-Haplogrubu-Haritasi-v3.png

[Johnson Reed]

I have a Slavic surname.

My mom has a Germanic surname - Meller - but Meller's haplogroup turned out to be Slavic R1a-FTD42626.

Interesting. Perhaps there was an NPE in your paternal line, giving you Celtic Y-DNA but a Slavic surname.


That's also my favorite haplogroup after my own, because it's my husband's. (He's mostly Basque, with distant Irish as well - L21 plots in Basque country too).

Does your husband have an Irish surname?


Fixed ;)

I thought the main Iberian haplogroup was R1b-DF27


none, only my own



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/J2-Y-DNA-Haplogroup-Map-J2-M172-Map-J2-Haplogrubu-Haritasi-v3.png

Your haplogroup is woggy as shit bro

[tk'es]

Your haplogroup is woggy as shit bro




no worries, it's okay bro

[Erronkari]

That's also my favorite haplogroup after my own, because it's my husband's. (He's mostly Basque, with distant Irish as well - L21 plots in Basque country too).

It seems U152 is alpino-celtic, right?
I have the same as yours.

[Erronkari]

For me, definitely R1b-L21, the Irish haplogroup.

Agree.
And R1a too because apart of Spain, Portugal and Italy my favorite european countries are Ireland and Poland.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I thought the main Iberian haplogroup was R1b-DF27

I know, I'm just joking. R1b-L21 is my paternal haplogroup though.

[Johnson Reed]

I know, I'm just joking. R1b-L21 is my paternal haplogroup though.

Do you have a Celtic surname?

[Annie999]

Does your husband have an Irish surname?



No, both his last names are Basque from recent immigration. His Irish is distant from a great-great grandma.

[Figaro]

Do you have a Celtic surname?

Before being Celtic, the L21’s in places like Ireland were speaking probably some other, archaic Indo European languages no longer spoken today. Attributing Surnames to meta-ethnicities can be not always reliable, unless I’m misinterpreting your intention here.

[Annie999]

It seems U152 is alpino-celtic, right?
I have the same as yours.

Yes it is alpine, and then I think it divides in 3 subclades. My haplogroup comes from northern Italy, the epicentre of U152. Do you know which subclade you are? (I don't)

[Andullero]

For me, definitely R1b-L21, the Irish haplogroup.

R-P312. The people having it have extra Iberian perks, methinks.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Do you have a Celtic surname?

No, the vast majority of our surnames are of Portuguese or Galician origin (etymologically latin or latinized surnames), usually patronymical, locative or of religious origin. I don't think there are any Portuguese surnames of Celtic origin, just first names such as Artur or Catarina.

[J. Ketch]

R1b-U106, the main haplogroup of the Anglo-Saxons, and the Y-DNA of my maternal grandfather. I am already R1b-L21 (and M222), OG Bell Beaker stock.

[gixajo]

I know, I'm just joking. R1b-L21 is my paternal haplogroup though.

My paternal grandmother male relatives, originally from Andalusia, according to their Myheritage raw data and Morley´s Ydna predictor, are R1b-L21 too (my father maternal uncle, his son and 2 of his grandsons).:)

The descendants of G***** de Quesada (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G*****_de_Quesada), the one whom your ancestor Magellan had beheaded and dismembered for mutinying.:p

[#Oda#]

I also think the theme is much overrated and I'm bored to death by it, but to answer the question:
It's my father's: R1b-P312, which was found in Hiddestorf ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunkgrab_von_Hiddestorf ), where his male line comes from.

[hazmatnik]

G-L42, looks like some of my maternal grandma ancestors belong to it. Not confirmed yet but it is present in Crna Trava for sure.

[vader]

Having a sintasha ydna would also be pretty dope

[Red0]

I

Your haplogroup is woggy as shit bro


The map he posted is not entirely correct regarding freuquency etc and also only covers J2 in general. The J2a branches or clades in the Balkans was probably present among Ancinet Greeks where it was one of the main lineages, although some clades could of come later. Some of the J2 in the Balkans is also J2b1 which is Roman Imperial mediated while J2b2-L283 was one of the main lineages among Illyrians of the Bronze Age / Iron Age.

So Some J2 is native to Europe including J-L283 and some J2a or has been there for thousands of years with Illyrians and Ancient Greeks. Ultimately of course these lineages migrated from somewhere else, J-L283 looks like it came with the Indo-European migrations during the Bronze Age along with R-Z2103 considering there is also one Yamnaya sample J-L283 found around the Steppes and also some found around the Caucasus in Indo European related cultures. So it seems some of the Indo Europeans were actually a mix of EHG + CHG.


As for my favorite haplogroup, I'd probably say all the ancient Balkan lineages in general, weather Indo-European or pre-Indo-European. One interesting is also some I-m223 and G which was present in Balkan Neolithic .

[Peterski]

Interesting. Perhaps there was an NPE in your paternal line, giving you Celtic Y-DNA but a Slavic surname.

I don't think so. More likely that Celt was Slavicized before surnames started to be used.