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Eurafricanid
09-07-2024, 06:40 PM
Mesolithic + Iran_N Calculator

It should work for all West Eurasians, but was made with Europeans in mind







Components:

ADD DIST COL - NO, REDUCE - NO

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Eastern_Europe,0.1214113,0.0367282,0.1274665,0.205 752,-0.008976,0.0568005,-0.018096,-0.0244217,-0.0053177,-0.0844055,0.0164282,-0.0176843,0.0303268,-0.0413098,0.0210363,0.0258552,-0.0093878,0.001605,-0.0042318,0.0134647,-0.0069877,0.018383,0.010476,-0.0203042,-0.0088615
Western_Europe,0.1217259,0.1127817,0.1865237,0.189 1683,0.1538045,0.0571565,0.0152825,0.0385039,0.090 4169,0.0187285,-0.0147729,-0.0166738,0.0177118,-0.0021626,0.0545599,0.0653287,0.0060349,0.0069716,-0.0118013,0.0553981,0.1006191,0.0130791,-0.047528,-0.1667605,0.0163408
Caucasus,0.0897375,0.1034448,-0.0887179,-0.004828,-0.0896232,0.0203761,0.0230693,-0.001228,-0.1292262,-0.079152,-0.0073943,0.0243343,-0.051575,0.0073309,0.026184,-0.0283824,0.0272264,-0.0105026,-0.0230644,0.0362976,0.0304498,-0.0068501,0.004943,-0.0208812,0.0016754
Iran_N,0.0450478,0.0725128,-0.1507442,-0.0065076,-0.1148557,0.0178132,0.0139621,-0.0018905,-0.0756186,-0.0496011,-0.00099,-0.002099,0.00474,-0.0059417,0.0266246,0.0516964,-0.0069899,0.0050295,0.0132112,-0.0320451,0.0075763,-0.0249938,-0.0090666,-0.0350722,0.0195965
Anatolia,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
Oceania_M,-0.0435375,-0.2376338,-0.2175042,0.2371638,0.154644,-0.358793,-0.0001178,0.0070382,-0.0153902,-0.0035538,-0.005156,0.001199,0.001301,-0.0031655,-0.0047502,-0.0013592,0.007856,0.0008552,-0.0013198,0.0021882,0.003712,0.00068,-0.003882,-0.001958,-0.0034125
South_Asia,0.007449,-0.231104,-0.231375,0.194341,-0.046555,0.082346,-0.00629,0.029412,0.149897,0.108332,-0.007625,0.005662,-0.007651,0.025169,-0.039099,-0.051283,0.017611,-0.003512,-0.005955,0.034942,0.007473,0.01831,-0.005371,0.020167,-0.021865
East_Asia_M,0.0179358,-0.4475304,-0.0255814,-0.0668349,0.1065592,0.0490143,-0.0000225,-0.009453,-0.018874,-0.0112664,-0.0057132,-0.0015054,0.002091,-0.0025168,0.0046434,0.0045674,-0.0013828,0.0019049,0.0017147,-0.0131419,0.0078668,-0.0089962,0.0066902,-0.0039398,-0.0261768
African,-0.6282089,0.0644862,0.0209303,0.0095016,-0.0075141,0.0075065,-0.0125144,0.0103647,-0.030457,0.0099622,0.0048172,-0.0001247,-0.0063179,0.0000687,-0.0094666,0.0123199,-0.0094747,0.018507,-0.0028913,0.0008233,-0.0048975,-0.0032868,-0.0017257,-0.0063864,0.0004986





Fun addicion for LATAM, Europeans should not add this:

Americas,0.0511068,-0.3137476,0.1175486,0.0944775,-0.1117746,-0.0178628,-0.2870775,-0.3432778,-0.0156768,-0.0220598,-0.0056102,-0.002278,0.001033,0.0135215,-0.0075802,0.0054892,0.0064472,-0.0004118,0.002244,-0.0016942,-0.0003866,0.0088535,-0.0017438,0.000542,-0.000485

Eurafricanid
09-07-2024, 06:42 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 4.7362% / 0.04736169
59.2 Anatolia
16.4 Eastern_Europe
10.8 Caucasus
6.0 Western_Europe
5.0 Iran_N
2.6 Levant

Beowulf
09-07-2024, 06:42 PM
Target: Beowulf_Merged_Scaled
Distance: 0.0459% / 0.04590248
56.6 Anatolia
21.4 Eastern_Europe
13.0 Caucasus
6.1 Western_Europe
1.5 Iran_N
1.4 Levant

tk'es
09-07-2024, 06:44 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.0819% / 0.06081918
49.8 Caucasus
24.8 Anatolia
13.6 Eastern_Europe
8.6 Levant
2.0 East_Asia_M
1.2 Iran_N






with R3P


Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.6211% / 0.06621091 | R3P
53.2 Caucasus
32.6 Anatolia
14.2 Eastern_Europe

cass
09-07-2024, 07:03 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 6.8744% / 0.06874375
44.2 Anatolia
36.0 Eastern_Europe
12.6 Caucasus
7.2 Western_Europe

cass
09-07-2024, 07:49 PM
https://i.ibb.co/xLxvHNd/Zrzut-ekranu-7-9-2024-214630-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/RbRnyqd)

IMHO all of Northern Europe, except for the Finns and the Balts, is quite similar due to the common source of CW/GAC.

vader
09-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 4.4755% / 0.04475452
58.6 Anatolia
18.4 Eastern_Europe
8.6 Caucasus
5.6 Western_Europe
4.4 Levant
3.2 Iran_N
1.2 Africa

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.3973% / 0.02397312
48.4 Americas
30.0 Anatolia
8.8 Eastern_Europe
6.0 Caucasus
3.6 Africa
2.0 Levant
0.6 Iran_N
0.6 South_Asia

Balboa
09-07-2024, 08:08 PM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 4.1707% / 0.04170728
76.4 Anatolia
8.4 Caucasus
8.2 Iran_N
5.4 Eastern_Europe
1.2 Western_Europe
0.4 Levant

Upsilander
09-07-2024, 08:09 PM
Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 6.8361% / 0.06836087
50.4 Anatolia
32.0 Eastern_Europe
10.6 Caucasus
7.0 Western_Europe


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.18779753 Anatolia
0.25042025 Eastern_Europe
0.28709442 Caucasus
0.30368510 Levant
0.32719822 Iran_N
0.33471765 Western_Europe
0.57392420 South_Asia
0.62953900 East_Asia_M
0.67691122 Oceania_M
0.68066293 Americas
0.78266108 Africa

gixajo
09-07-2024, 08:21 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.5600% / 0.05559964
59.8 Anatolia
17.8 Eastern_Europe
11.6 Caucasus
8.2 Western_Europe
2.6 Levant

Katarzyna
09-07-2024, 08:28 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 7.2308% / 0.07230824
41.6 Anatolia
40.4 Eastern_Europe
11.0 Caucasus
7.0 Western_Europe

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
Distance: 6.8485% / 0.06848475
42.0 Eastern_Europe
40.0 Anatolia
12.2 Caucasus
5.8 Western_Europe

Low EEF for a Pole

Upsilander
09-07-2024, 08:32 PM
If you want some Iran_N to appear, just remove Caucasus (modest distance increase)


Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 7.3222% / 0.07322174
54.8 Anatolia
37.2 Eastern_Europe
4.2 Western_Europe
3.8 Iran_N

EasternLusitanian
09-07-2024, 08:38 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0485% / 0.04849914
55.2 Anatolia
17.7 Eastern_Europe
10.6 Caucasus
10.0 Levant
4.3 Western_Europe
2.1 Iran_N
0.1 Africa

Its back

Athalafuns
09-07-2024, 11:01 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 5.1079% / 0.05107912
56.0 Anatolia
20.6 Eastern_Europe
12.0 Caucasus
6.0 Western_Europe
4.0 Levant
1.2 Iran_N
0.2 Africa

Eurafricanid
09-07-2024, 11:18 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 5.1079% / 0.05107912
56.0 Anatolia
20.6 Eastern_Europe
12.0 Caucasus
6.0 Western_Europe
4.0 Levant
1.2 Iran_N
0.2 Africa

I like this model, because it shows very clearily the Natufian (labeled as Levant) -related component, and how much actual SSA you've actually enherited inside of the Iberomaurusian instead of just Iberomaurusian itself.

This kind of proves a theory of mine that most of the North African DNA Iberians have isn't actually fully North African, but more levant-like, because with North African admixture, not only the SSA in Iberomaurusian comes, but also the SSA in North Africans outside of Iberomaurusian, which seems to be abscent in most iberians, and all of that SSA seems to only be equal to 0-0.2 until now.


It doesn't seem to be a problem with the model:

Target: Iberomaurusian
Distance: 25.9216% / 0.25921553
68.2 Levant
28.0 Africa
3.8 South_Asia

(The distance is high because the admixture is ancient, but the proportions look right)

ScandinavianCelt
09-07-2024, 11:43 PM
Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 6.3646% / 0.06364553
44.4 Anatolia
35.8 Eastern_Europe
15.2 Caucasus
4.6 Western_Europe

ScandinavianCelt
09-07-2024, 11:46 PM
If you want some Iran_N to appear, just remove Caucasus (modest distance increase)


Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 7.3222% / 0.07322174
54.8 Anatolia
37.2 Eastern_Europe
4.2 Western_Europe
3.8 Iran_N


Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 6.3646% / 0.06364553
44.4 Anatolia
35.8 Eastern_Europe
15.2 Caucasus
4.6 Western_Europe

If I take out Caucasus:


Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 7.0333% / 0.07033275
48.0 Anatolia
40.2 Eastern_Europe
9.4 Iran_N
2.4 Western_Europe

Eurafricanid
09-08-2024, 12:03 AM
I like this model, because it shows very clearily the Natufian (labeled as Levant) -related component, and how much actual SSA you've actually enherited inside of the Iberomaurusian instead of just Iberomaurusian itself.

This kind of proves a theory of mine that most of the North African DNA Iberians have isn't actually fully North African, but more levant-like, because with North African admixture, not only the SSA in Iberomaurusian comes, but also the SSA in North Africans outside of Iberomaurusian, which seems to be abscent in most iberians, and all of that SSA seems to only be equal to 0-0.2 until now.


It doesn't seem to be a problem with the model:

Target: Iberomaurusian
Distance: 25.9216% / 0.25921553
68.2 Levant
28.0 Africa
3.8 South_Asia

(The distance is high because the admixture is ancient, but the proportions look right)


Yes, I tested with North Africans, and their SSA matches the expected increase, like this North Moroccan, for example:

This is the full model with Iberomaurusian and notice that the SSA is 6.2%:

Target: Moroccan_North
Distance: 1.9966% / 0.01996566
44.4 ANF
30.6 Iberomaurusian
8.4 Yamnaya
6.2 Sub_Saharan_African
5.8 Natufian
2.0 Iran_N
1.8 WHG
0.8 CHG


Now see it increase to 13.8% in my model, which is 7.6% more SSA than the original, if you do the math, it's 1/4 of the Iberomaurusian's percentage.

Target: Moroccan_North
Distance: 7.5940% / 0.07594000
41.6 Levant
34.2 Anatolia
13.8 Africa
4.6 Caucasus
4.6 Eastern_Europe
1.2 South_Asia


That's not exaclty the expected 28%, but if you see the Andalusian's Iberomaurusian percentage, even with this minor reduction, it should be at least 1% SSA, and that's not what we see.

Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 3.1586% / 0.03158558
55.2 ANF
29.4 Yamnaya
11.2 WHG
4.2 Iberomaurusian



Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 5.1749% / 0.05174948
57.6 Anatolia
16.8 Eastern_Europe
10.6 Caucasus
6.8 Western_Europe
6.0 Levant
2.2 Iran_N


The only average that actually matches SSA is Canarias:

Target: Spanish_Canarias
Distance: 4.9897% / 0.04989686
52.0 Anatolia
16.2 Eastern_Europe
13.0 Levant
10.6 Caucasus
5.0 Western_Europe
2.6 Africa
0.6 Iran_N


With a higher percentage than when using Iberomaurusian, as expected.

Target: Spanish_Canarias
Distance: 2.7444% / 0.02744432
52.6 ANF
27.6 Yamnaya
9.6 Iberomaurusian
9.0 WHG
1.2 Sub_Saharan_African

But here's a thing, the SSA increase is only equal to ~14.6%, which is ~10.4% less than expected, comparing with the North African results, which shows a mix between the actual Iberomaurusian comonent NAs have and the "Iberomaurusian" component most iberians have.

Kenshiro
09-08-2024, 11:39 AM
Target: Kenshiro_Scaled
Distance: 3.5702% / 0.03570241
60.2 Anatolia
16.6 Caucasus
14.0 Eastern_Europe
9.2 Iran_N
My MENA look West Asia-Iranic than Levantine

Anatolya
09-08-2024, 12:08 PM
Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 3.7013% / 0.03701350
33.6 Anatolia
25.4 Iran_N
21.8 Caucasus
8.4 Levant
7.2 Eastern_Europe
3.6 East_Asia_M

celticdragongod
09-08-2024, 04:04 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.20230969 Anatolia
0.24086616 Eastern_Europe
0.28217931 Caucasus
0.32030281 Iran_N
0.34134287 Western_Europe
0.55859716 South_Asia
0.61924806 East_Asia_M
0.66684936 Oceania_M
0.77213503 African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 7.5920% / 0.07592017
47.8 Anatolia
36.8 Eastern_Europe
11.4 Caucasus
4.0 Western_Europe

Gallop
09-08-2024, 05:06 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 5.2269% / 0.05226912 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.0 Anatolia
16.4 Eastern_Europe
14.8 Caucasus
8.8 Western_Europe

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 5.5123% / 0.05512274 | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.6 Anatolia
25.0 Eastern_Europe
9.4 Caucasus

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 5.6293% / 0.05629298 | ADC: 0.5x RC
67.0 Anatolia
23.6 Eastern_Europe
9.4 Caucasus

unmoggable
09-08-2024, 09:03 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 6.5175% / 0.06517529
47.6 Anatolia
32.2 Eastern_Europe
15.2 Caucasus
5.0 Western_Europe

0.19224089 Anatolia
0.24763898 Eastern_Europe
0.27023844 Caucasus
0.30736035 Iran_N
0.34482161 Western_Europe
0.55767817 South_Asia
0.61561853 East_Asia_M
0.66214109 Oceania_M
0.76552736 African