Loschbour(LUX)-Pinarbasi(TUR)-Samara(RUS): Yamnaya 2.0

[ScandinavianCelt]

Samples for Source, scaled:

Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
LUX_Loschbour:I0001,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.19 2186,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0 .02278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001,0.114961,0.167562,0.03 017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784


my result

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 4.0789% / 0.04078899
54.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
37.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
8.0 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

[Athalafuns]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 4.3050% / 0.04304973
57.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
37.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
5.4 LUX_Loschbour

[vader]

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 4.2160% / 0.04215970
61.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
34.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
5.0 LUX_Loschbour

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.6193% / 0.04619266
58.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
34.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
7.2 LUX_Loschbour

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 4.5702% / 0.04570207
59.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
33.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.8 LUX_Loschbour

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 4.7365% / 0.04736543
61.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
31.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
6.6 LUX_Loschbour

[Balboa]

Target: Balboa_maternal
Distance: 4.5092% / 0.04509243
87.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
2.2 LUX_Loschbour

Target: Balboa
Distance: 4.7938% / 0.04793779
78.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
21.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya

[unmoggable]

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 4.2192% / 0.04219186
51.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
41.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
7.2 LUX_Loschbour

0.15139493 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.19224089 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.37351143 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 6.3762% / 0.06376241
50.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
46.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
3.4 LUX_Loschbour

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 4.2192% / 0.04219186
51.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
41.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
7.2 LUX_Loschbour

0.15139493 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.19224089 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.37351143 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Yo, do you have any English-Welsh known background, specifically?

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 6.3762% / 0.06376241
50.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
46.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
3.4 LUX_Loschbour

The most balanced diet in the room.

[unmoggable]

Yo, do you have any English-Welsh known background, specifically?

just english

[EasternLusitanian]

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0493% / 0.04926702
62.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
34.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
3.0 LUX_Loschbour

[Upsilander]

Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 5.1131% / 0.05113114
46.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
43.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.2 LUX_Loschbour


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.16544949 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.18779753 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.36344610 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Lux representing :cool:

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 5.1131% / 0.05113114
46.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
43.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.2 LUX_Loschbour


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.16544949 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.18779753 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.36344610 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Lux representing :cool:

You better have green eyes...

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0493% / 0.04926702
62.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
34.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
3.0 LUX_Loschbour

Do you know what the average Yamnaya is for someone from your place?

[Upsilander]

You better have green eyes...

Blue... on the other hand i have 0% ancestry from Luxembourg :p (but not too far yes)

[EasternLusitanian]

Do you know what the average Yamnaya is for someone from your place?

From what i have seen i actually score a tiny bit more yamnaya than the average andalusian:


Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 2.7660% / 0.02765981
54.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
7.2 MAR_Taforalt


Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 3.2020% / 0.03201999
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt

You could get a better picture if there were any malaga, seville or cadiz samples, or any western andalusian sample for that matter, because thats where the majority of my ancestry comes from

[#Oda#]

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 3.7445% / 0.03744477
52.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
38.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
9.6 LUX_Loschbour

Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.14640852 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.19917824 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.36235056 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

[ScandinavianCelt]

From what i have seen i actually score a tiny bit more yamnaya than the average andalusian:


Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 2.7660% / 0.02765981
54.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
7.2 MAR_Taforalt


Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 3.2020% / 0.03201999
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt

You could get a better picture if there were any malaga, seville or cadiz samples, or any western andalusian sample for that matter, because thats where the majority of my ancestry comes from

Look what happens to mine if you add only Gibraltar_EN ancient scaled pop ave sample:

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 4.0789% / 0.04078899
54.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
37.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
8.0 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 3.0761% / 0.03076085
55.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
39.6 Gibraltar_EN
4.6 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Try it for yourself.

Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 3.7445% / 0.03744477
52.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
38.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
9.6 LUX_Loschbour

Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.14640852 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.19917824 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.36235056 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

I think I figured out why my Yamnaya could be higher than most here, generally speaking, on these limited calcs we share, it's because I'm eastern-shifted from Sweden, between 15-29% depending on the calcs, with 12-17% from East & SE Finland. They get very high Yamnaya scores, like as Vessna often does if she excludes Karelia HG I think. Oda, I'm guessing you are more western-shifted than me by that small amount. Our results aren't terribly different.

[EasternLusitanian]

Look what happens to mine if you add only Gibraltar_EN ancient scaled pop ave sample:

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 4.0789% / 0.04078899
54.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
37.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
8.0 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 3.0761% / 0.03076085
55.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
39.6 Gibraltar_EN
4.6 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Try it for yourself.

Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796


Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0416% / 0.04164331
38.1 Gibraltar_EN
35.5 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
26.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG

Do you know what the Gibraltar sample stands for? Im not that knowledgeable and it seems weird for you to have more of that than me

[ScandinavianCelt]

From what i have seen i actually score a tiny bit more yamnaya than the average andalusian:


Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 2.7660% / 0.02765981
54.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
7.2 MAR_Taforalt


Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 3.2020% / 0.03201999
54.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 WHG
4.6 MAR_Taforalt

You could get a better picture if there were any malaga, seville or cadiz samples, or any western andalusian sample for that matter, because thats where the majority of my ancestry comes from

Also I don't know if you've seen it or not but it seems like a bunch of the guys from Spain seem to show heavy to varying degrees ancient Northern genetics maybe from the bronze Age even from Ireland and Scandinavia I mean it's funny how the genetics flowed from north to south and south to North from different time. So it's basically we're all carrying similar genetics potentially but just from different time periods and obviously in sort of reverse proportions so like I think Beowulf is probably 75% Southern ultimately in modern times 25% Northern potentially give or take and same with me but typically in reverse I'll have three quarters from the north and then the rest is either Southern or combination of Southern and Eastern depending on the time period but it seems like on a lot of the calculators in the most modern times it's almost entirely Northern although there is some eastern Southeastern for me on two-way top samples my top two way I think for all the modern samples was 79% Irish and 31% Bulgarian or Hungarian I can't remember one of those two I think it was Bulgarian anyway it's kind of shocking to see that sort of thing but that's sort of represents a southern genetic in more modern times maybe so I'm getting directional Southern genetics at different time periods sometimes through Italy both Northwest and Northeast and I don't even know where this other place is that I typically get the most I don't even know how to say it it looks like Frulia or something like that anyway the point is you may have genetics from different time. From the north you may have a lot more ancient Scandinavian genetics then I have I don't know we should do a calculator to show that for the guys from Spain versus the guys from the north today who's carrying the most ancient Scandinavian genetics in Europe today I don't know exactly you would think it would be people in the north but I don't know it seems like those genetics might have gone East and Southeast but I'm not entirely sure but it seems like I've seen the guys in the Southeast sometimes get more Northern hunter-gatherer percentages then I do I've noticed on some calculators in the past but maybe it depends on where the person is living specifically like Romania or Bulgaria or somewhere in the East like Hungary I can't even remember now

[EasternLusitanian]

Also I don't know if you've seen it or not but it seems like a bunch of the guys from Spain seem to show heavy to varying degrees ancient Northern genetics maybe from the bronze Age even from Ireland and Scandinavia I mean it's funny how the genetics flowed from north to south and south to North from different time. So it's basically we're all carrying similar genetics potentially but just from different time periods and obviously in sort of reverse proportions so like I think Beowulf is probably 75% Southern ultimately in modern times 25% Northern potentially give or take and same with me but typically in reverse I'll have three quarters from the north and then the rest is either Southern or combination of Southern and Eastern depending on the time period but it seems like on a lot of the calculators in the most modern times it's almost entirely Northern although there is some eastern Southeastern for me on two-way top samples my top two way I think for all the modern samples was 79% Irish and 31% Bulgarian or Hungarian I can't remember one of those two I think it was Bulgarian anyway it's kind of shocking to see that sort of thing but that's sort of represents a southern genetic in more modern times maybe so I'm getting directional Southern genetics at different time periods sometimes through Italy both Northwest and Northeast and I don't even know where this other place is that I typically get the most I don't even know how to say it it looks like Frulia or something like that anyway the point is you may have genetics from different time. From the north you may have a lot more ancient Scandinavian genetics then I have I don't know we should do a calculator to show that for the guys from Spain versus the guys from the north today who's carrying the most ancient Scandinavian genetics in Europe today I don't know exactly you would think it would be people in the north but I don't know it seems like those genetics might have gone East and Southeast but I'm not entirely sure but it seems like I've seen the guys in the Southeast sometimes get more Northern hunter-gatherer percentages then I do I've noticed on some calculators in the past but maybe it depends on where the person is living specifically like Romania or Bulgaria or somewhere in the East like Hungary I can't even remember now

Most of the spaniards that post regularly are probably from the most northern shifted areas in the country as a whole, while i sometimes plot even closer with canarians than with andalusians. I think Gallop and I demonstrate the maximum possible difference in genetics of full spaniards roughly from the same area. Maybe some other southern spaniards have admixture from those towns that were settled by european immigrants in the XVIII and XIX centuries, i have ancestry from places close to that, so its not impossible that some of them have some french or swiss or german ancestors, not necesarily from then but maybe from the 1500s or whatever

As for the european part, what you tried to say is that we all have a bit from everywhere in europe coming from ancient times, and while i think thats somewhat true, i think it isnt as pronounced. I wouldnt use the two way oracle or any oracle as proof for admixture from unexpected places. As an example, I have had Two-ways that tell me im even 15% Druze or palestinian or greek, which obviously isnt the case and the admixture from those places is minimal and negligible

[ScandinavianCelt]

Most of the spaniards that post regularly are probably from the most northern shifted areas in the country as a whole, while i sometimes plot even closer with canarians than with andalusians. I think Gallop and I demonstrate the maximum possible difference in genetics of full spaniards roughly from the same area. Maybe some other southern spaniards have admixture from those towns that were settled by european immigrants in the XVIII and XIX centuries, i have ancestry from places close to that, so its not impossible that some of them have some french or swiss or german ancestors, not necesarily from then but maybe from the 1500s or whatever

As for the european part, what you tried to say is that we all have a bit from everywhere in europe coming from ancient times, and while i think thats somewhat true, i think it isnt as pronounced. I wouldnt use the two way oracle or any oracle as proof for admixture from unexpected places. As an example, I have had Two-ways that tell me im even 15% Druze or palestinian or greek, which obviously isnt the case and the admixture from those places is minimal and negligible

Well maybe I don't know exactly the people you're talking about but I know that for me I believe my Spanish genetics a lot of it came through Greece and then went through Italy and then got to Spain when I've researched my own stuff something like half of it came from Greece at different times even more than half of it so it's possible to get Eastern genetics obviously further back I mean the farming genetics were coming up from North Africa but they were also coming from the bulk and maybe before they really became volcanic they also went West I don't know because I read all the farming came through Starcevo at least at some point and to the degree of being the vast majority apparently you can read about it so the farming spread apparently through there

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 3.7445% / 0.03744477
52.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
38.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
9.6 LUX_Loschbour

Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.14640852 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.19917824 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.36235056 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

How much of the Gibraltar sample do you get if you add it to this original calculator I'm curious I bet you would get a similar amount to me but maybe I'm wrong

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 5.4743% / 0.05474331
52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
36.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.8 LUX_Loschbour

[Upsilander]

Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 5.1131% / 0.05113114
46.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
43.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.2 LUX_Loschbour


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.16544949 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.18779753 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
0.36344610 LUX_Loschbour:I0001


This is what i get with Gibraltar EN (distance improves by 0.8)

Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 4.3273% / 0.04327260
48.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
39.8 Gibraltar_EN
7.3 LUX_Loschbour
4.3 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG

It's similar to other early neolithic. It eats some of the Loschbour here, which is expected since they absorbed a bit of WHG through Europe over time.

[Gaditanian]

Look what happens to mine if you add only Gibraltar_EN ancient scaled pop ave sample:

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 4.0789% / 0.04078899
54.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
37.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001
8.0 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 3.0761% / 0.03076085
55.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
39.6 Gibraltar_EN
4.6 LUX_Loschbour:I0001

Try it for yourself.

Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796

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[Athalafuns]

Most of the spaniards that post regularly are probably from the most northern shifted areas in the country as a whole.
I am from the southern half too, southeast specifically, but I oddly overlap with the Catalan Pyrenees (just like my Y-DNA). Genealogy hasn't solved it yet.

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 6.2719% / 0.06271922
49.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
43.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
7.2 LUX_Loschbour

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 5.4914% / 0.05491388
51.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
44.8 Gibraltar_EN
3.4 LUX_Loschbour
0.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG

[EasternLusitanian]

I am from the southern half too, southeast specifically, but I oddly overlap with the Catalan Pyrenees (just like my Y-DNA). Genealogy hasn't solved it yet.

Well i didn't know where any of you were from exactly so that statement also serves as a question to know where you're from

[ScandinavianCelt]

@Gaditanian

Cool!

My Gibraltar ended up in Sweden by the middle of the farming period (MN). I think it went to Scotland first, then France, then Sweden, based on the genetic distances, and it ends up like this:


Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 3.3126% / 0.03312593 | ADC: 2x RC
52.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
47.4 Sweden_MN_TRB.SG


This result also includes Scotland, France, and Germany during N.

[Gaditanian]

@Gaditanian

Cool!

My Gibraltar ended up in Sweden by the middle of the farming period (MN). I think it went to Scotland first, then France, then Sweden, based on the genetic distances, and it ends up like this:


Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 3.3126% / 0.03312593 | ADC: 2x RC
52.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
47.4 Sweden_MN_TRB.SG


This result also includes Scotland, France, and Germany during N.

Taking in consideration the last glaciation era, maybe these people were moving across the coast bordering the ancient limits of that ages.

Don't you think that the natural migration was from Iberian Peninsula - France - Scotland - Scandinavia according to this map?

https://blogcatedranaval.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/doggerland2-984x1024-1.jpg?w=768

[Kostek]

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 8.0725% / 0.08072503
55.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
34.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.4 LUX_Loschbour

very steppe :cool:

[tk'es]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 11.6084% / 0.11608422
61.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
38.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 8.0725% / 0.08072503
55.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
34.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
10.4 LUX_Loschbour

very steppe :cool:

Distance is terrible though. Try putting in Latvia_HG or Karelia_HG or Motala_HG and see what happens, or even Rochedene (WHG)

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 11.6084% / 0.11608422
61.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
38.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG:ZBC_IPB001

Add CHG and see what happens.

[Kostek]

Distance is terrible though. Try putting in Latvia_HG or Karelia_HG or Motala_HG and see what happens, or even Rochedene (WHG)

I have terrible distance at almost every calculator lol


Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 7.3854% / 0.07385441
44.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
15.6 Latvia_HG.SG
4.6 Russia_Karelia_HG

[ScandinavianCelt]

Taking in consideration the last glaciation era, maybe these people were moving across the coast bordering the ancient limits of that ages.

Don't you think that the natural migration was from Iberian Peninsula - France - Scotland - Scandinavia according to this map?

https://blogcatedranaval.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/doggerland2-984x1024-1.jpg?w=768

I guess if you had a boat you would go up the coast, over Scotland, and I know my male bloodline even made it to the far north of Norway at one point long ago. If no boat, these people wandered through the tribal mix of continental Europe!

Great map, but should show Spain also, no?