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gixajo
09-14-2024, 07:23 AM
I haven't been able to find more, if anyone knows a sample of someone "famous" please post it.



USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%, 0.117238,0.139128,0.06675,0.044574,0.040007,0.0172 91,0.001645,0.01523,-0.001023,-0.003827,-0.006658,0.006444,-0.016353,-0.013625,0.015879,-0.004375,-0.019558,0.00152,-0.005405,-0.004752,0.004617,0.011252,0.008011,0.005061,0.005 748
USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%,0.124067,0.145221,0.056945,0.040698,0.042469,0 .018686,0.003055,0.001846,0.002045,0.004374,-0.005359,0.009142,-0.006838,-0.004542,0.016829,0.008751,-0.009909,0.010008,0.004274,-0.000625,0.006489,-0.007048,-0.00493,0.014701,0.007424
Germany_George_Bähr:BaehrAB__AD_1666__Cov_37.32%,0 .130897,0.140143,0.061471,0.031654,0.035083,0.0251 ,0.019741,0.00923,0.001636,0.004738,-0.001949,0.001199,-0.009366,-0.000963,-0.00095,0.008884,0.01004,0.009882,-0.000251,0.007128,0.005241,-0.001113,0.000739,0.002169,0.000359
France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%,0.133173,0.13 2019,0.050911,0.027455,0.024004,0.005857,0.000235,-0.005769,0.013499,0.032802,0.019811,-0.0003,-0.017393,-0.007294,0.005972,-0.003315,-0.005476,0.002787,0.000377,0.00075,0.005241,-0.00371,0.009613,0.01205,-0.009221
Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff:Basel_Barfüsse r__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%,0.126344,0.141159,0.059208, 0.025517,0.038469,0.007809,-0.00047,0.001846,0.007772,0.000364,-0.005196,0.009442,-0.00669,0.003028,0.007736,0.001193,0.006389,0.0048 14,-0.000628,-0.01038,0.010357,0.005564,-0.005546,0.006868,-0.01425
Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus:CJM__AD_1473__Cov_un known,0.122929,0.128972,0.041106,0.009367,0.030467 ,0.001394,0.00658,0.003692,0.00225,0.010023,-0.003248,0.005845,-0.006541,-0.003441,0,0.012994,0.011474,-0.001774,0.003394,-0.002001,-0.006863,-0.002597,0.004437,0.008194,-0.013172
Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown,0.104717,0.016248,0.035449,0.015504 ,-0.010156,0.000558,0.00376,0,-0.02168,-0.015672,-0.007632,0.003597,-0.006095,-0.005643,0.003122,-0.00305,-0.002217,-0.003041,-0.004777,0.005503,-0.005989,0.002597,0.000493,0.00253,-0.00455
Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%,0 .132035,0.131003,0.050911,0.036499,0.035083,0.0156 18,0.007285,0.012692,0.000205,-0.004374,-0.004547,-0.001798,-0.008474,-0.002615,0.006379,0.014187,0.011604,0.000633,0.003 897,0.002001,0.004367,-0.004699,0.005669,0.00241,-0.002036
Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%,0.091058,0.13506 5,0.029415,-0.000969,0.038469,0.001116,-0.00799,-0.001615,0.028429,0.028611,-0.001624,0.007643,-0.008325,-0.01913,0.003257,0.010077,0.014864,-0.003294,-0.004777,0.002126,0.00574,-0.005688,0.003451,0.005422,0.000599


Edit:I´ve changed the
label"Switzerland_Basel_BarfüsserAnna_Catharina_Bischoff :Anna_Catharina_Bischoff__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%" by "Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff:Basel_Barfüsse r__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%" to give more presence to the name of the individual and that it will be displayed with the default version of vahaduo

gixajo
09-14-2024, 07:23 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 3.8488% / 0.03848842
49.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
25.2 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser
22.6 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
2.8 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 3.6109% / 0.03610935
48.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
23.2 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
20.6 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser
5.4 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son
2.4 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert

Upsilander
09-14-2024, 08:51 AM
Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 2.5547% / 0.02554739
41.8 Germany_George_Bähr
30.0 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
14.2 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser
7.0 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son
6.2 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
0.8 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.03485998 Germany_George_Bähr:BaehrAB__AD_1666__Cov_37.32%
0.03802770 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%
0.03851127 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%
0.04034608 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser:Anna_Catharina_Bischof f__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%
0.04226678 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%
0.05844277 France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
0.06120549 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus:CJM__AD_1473__Cov_un known
0.09452600 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.15644428 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown



I was thinking my Marat was low but this explains it, more Mara than Marat.


Jean-Paul Marat was born in Boudry, in the Prussian Principality of Neuchâtel (now a canton of Switzerland), on 24 May 1743.[7] He was the first of five children born to Jean Mara (born Juan Salvador Mara; 1704–1783), a Sardinian[8][9] from Cagliari, and Louise Cabrol (1724–1782), from Geneva.

Beowulf
09-14-2024, 08:52 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0242% / 0.02416154
35.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
24.3 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
12.0 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
10.0 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser
8.4 Germany_George_Bähr
8.4 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
1.5 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son

Athalafuns
09-14-2024, 09:22 AM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 2.3618% / 0.02361752
60.6 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
16.2 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser
12.0 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
11.2 France_Jean-Paul_Marat


Distance to: RNB27
0.03720638 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04829293 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus:CJM__AD_1473__Cov_un known
0.05390910 Switzerland_Basel_Barfüsser:Anna_Catharina_Bischof f__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%
0.05561852 France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
0.06454507 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%
0.06630013 Germany_George_Bähr:BaehrAB__AD_1666__Cov_37.32%
0.06724534 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%
0.07189429 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%
0.15230531 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown

EasternLusitanian
09-14-2024, 10:14 AM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0314% / 0.03137360
85.0 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
15.0 France_Jean-Paul_Marat

gixajo
09-14-2024, 11:11 AM
Jean-Paul Marat was born in Boudry, in the Prussian Principality of Neuchâtel (now a canton of Switzerland), on 24 May 1743.[7] He was the first of five children born to Jean Mara (born Juan Salvador Mara; 1704–1783), a Sardinian[8][9] from Cagliari, and Louise Cabrol (1724–1782), from Geneva.

I was thinking my Marat was low but this explains it, more Mara than Marat.

His ancestry does not match what his DNA shows, It wouldn't surprise me at all that he was an illegitimate son. It was talked about when the coordinates were posted.

Although he was born in a territory that is currently Swiss and at the time belonging to the Holy Germanic Empire (although it had already an administrative associaton with Switzerland), he died and was buried in France, so the label of his coordinates indicates which country the sample of the individual comes from.

Upsilander
09-14-2024, 11:25 AM
His ancestry does not match what his DNA shows, It wouldn't surprise me at all that he was an illegitimate son. It was talked about when the coordinates were posted.

Although he was born in a territory that is currently Swiss and at the time belonging to the Holy Germanic Empire (although it had already an administrative associaton with Switzerland), he died and was buried in France, so the label of his coordinates indicates which country the sample of the individual comes from.

Does he come out half Sardinian/Swiss in results or something else?

Gallop
09-14-2024, 11:31 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.5258% / 0.03525801
63.8 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
18.0 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
10.2 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff
8.0 France_Jean-Paul_Marat

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.5245% / 0.03524492
66.6 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
26.2 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff
5.6 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
1.2 Germany_George_Bähr
0.4 France_Jean-Paul_Marat

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 3.9336% / 0.03933646
74.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
19.4 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff
4.2 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
2.0 France_Jean-Paul_Marat

Abriekman
09-14-2024, 11:45 AM
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 4.6520% / 0.04652006
71.8 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III
21.8 Germany_George_Bähr
6.4 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

gixajo
09-14-2024, 12:02 PM
Does he come out half Sardinian/Swiss in results or something else?

No, except that his Sardinian family was actually originally from northeast Italy and they were more German than most northern Germans.

And that's taking into account that her Swiss German mother would also have to be atypically northern to be Swiss German.

He's very northern even if he had been really French. Well, his coordinates are...

Try to model him with modern references and see if you can do it with a good fit with Swiss Germans and Sardinians.

celticdragongod
09-14-2024, 12:18 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.03434313 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%
0.03445707 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%
0.04424129 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%
0.04868360 Germany_George_Bähr:BaehrAB__AD_1666__Cov_37.32%
0.05157420 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff:Basel_Barfüsse r__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%
0.05868113 France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
0.06675595 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus:CJM__AD_1473__Cov_un known
0.09547840 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.14747791 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.5290% / 0.02528969
45.2 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%
28.6 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%
13.2 France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
13.0 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%

Upsilander
09-14-2024, 12:19 PM
No, except that his Sardinian family was actually originally from northeast Italy and they were more German than most northern Germans.

And that's taking into account that her Swiss German mother would also have to be atypically northern to be Swiss German.

He's very northern even if he had been really French. Well, his coordinates are...

Try to model him with modern references and see if you can do it with a good fit with Swiss Germans and Sardinians.

I think the mother Louise Cabrol should have been French at least. Few runs are strange, i think he is a mix because his closest distances are not really close +4, not really conform to any population. He looks like something NW + Roman/Greek

Target: France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
Distance: 3.7136% / 0.03713607
42.6 Celtic:Insular:Brittonic
19.2 Aegean:Mycenaean
18.0 Iberian:Italy:Rome
8.4 Celtic:Continental:Gaul
7.0 Saami:Chalmny-Varre
3.8 Germanic:Norse:Skara
1.0 Amerindian:Chumash


Target: France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
Distance: 3.8511% / 0.03851115
57.0 French_Brittany
19.8 Italian_Tuscany
14.4 Spanish_Cataluna
5.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
1.6 Koryak
1.0 Karitiana
0.6 Finnish_Southwest
0.2 Greenlander_West


I'm gonna bet on an NPE with a Swiss man who was more on the Italian Swiss side but not Sardinian.

cass
09-14-2024, 12:22 PM
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 4.6520% / 0.04652006
71.8 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III
21.8 Germany_George_Bähr
6.4 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

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Target: cass
Distance: 3.7433% / 0.03743283
55.8 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III
20.8 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
19.4 Germany_George_Bähr
4.0 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son

Béla III of Hungary
Father Géza II of Hungary
Mother Euphrosyne of Kiev

Géza II of Hungary
Father Béla II of Hungary
Mother Helena of Serbia

Béla II of Hungary
Father Álmos of Hungary
Mother Predslava of Kiev

Gaditanian
09-14-2024, 12:29 PM
Target: Gaditanian
Distance: 2.8313% / 0.02831289
85.0 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
9.6 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
3.8 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA
1.6 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/172/854/1310551015002.png

gixajo
09-14-2024, 01:13 PM
I think the mother Louise Cabrol should have been French at least. Few runs are strange, i think he is a mix because his closest distances are not really close +4, not really conform to any population. He looks like something NW + Roman/Greek



I'm gonna bet on an NPE with a Swiss man who was more on the Italian Swiss side but not Sardinian.

With Davidsi´s ancient standard we cannot see any "East-Med" in him, even the proportions of EEF/steppe are very French, except the extra-Asian and the high distance, that is more common in Northern Slavs.

Maybe is just a problem of the Dna read, contamination not perceived,error making coordinates, and not with his real ancestry. I don´t know...

Target: France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
Distance: 5.0767% / 0.05076733
48.0 TUR_Barcin_N
40.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.8 WHG
1.4 Nganassan
0.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

gixajo
09-14-2024, 01:20 PM
Target: Gaditanian

[B]3.8 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

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Target: Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown
Distance: 2.2026% / 0.02202638 | ADC: 1x RC
47.2 Tatar_Kazan
23.8 Kumyk
22.6 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
6.4 Tajik_Ayni


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgFBHWy2X-w&ab_channel=volviendoalosochenta

ScandinavianCelt
09-14-2024, 02:02 PM
Target: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
Distance: 2.7048% / 0.02704795 | ADC: 2x RC
53.0 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son
47.0 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III

Kostek
09-14-2024, 02:13 PM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 6.5158% / 0.06515803
36.2 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
30.8 Germany_George_Bähr
30.0 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III
2.6 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son
0.4 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

Gaditanian
09-14-2024, 03:01 PM
Target: Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown
Distance: 2.2026% / 0.02202638 | ADC: 1x RC
47.2 Tatar_Kazan
23.8 Kumyk
22.6 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
6.4 Tajik_Ayni





https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/133/884/1307980355001.png


:laugh:

unmoggable
09-15-2024, 02:50 AM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 1.2599% / 0.01259932
41.2 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son
26.0 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III
20.8 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
7.6 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
3.0 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA
1.4 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff

0.02399010 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%
0.03045425 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%
0.03513279 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%
0.03687442 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff:Basel_Barfüsse r__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%
0.03753604 Germany_George_Bähr:BaehrAB__AD_1666__Cov_37.32%
0.05139877 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus:CJM__AD_1473__Cov_un known
0.05409882 France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
0.08173024 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.14020958 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown

paradox
09-15-2024, 05:02 AM
Target: paradox_scaled(Ancestry)
Distance: 5.3178% / 0.05317792
82.0 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
15.8 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
2.2 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

Target: Father_scaled(Ancestry)
Distance: 4.6868% / 0.04686821
87.2 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
12.6 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert
0.2 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

Demirkazık
09-15-2024, 05:18 AM
Target: Demir
Distance: 7.2426% / 0.07242607
72.6 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA
27.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval

calxpal
09-15-2024, 06:00 AM
Target: Cpal_scaled
Distance: 2.0233% / 0.02023342
65.6 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III
15.4 Germany_George_Bähr
7.8 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
6.6 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
4.6 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval

Distance to: Cpal_scaled
0.02305412 Hungary_Árpád_Béla_III:HU3B__AD_1148__Cov_95.34%
0.03204295 Germany_George_Bähr:BaehrAB__AD_1666__Cov_37.32%
0.04084583 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus:CJM__AD_1473__Cov_un known
0.04220791 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff:Basel_Barfüsse r__AD_1787__Cov_14.89%
0.04467640 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert_son:I2097__AD_1682__Cov_52. 57%
0.05636902 France_Jean-Paul_Marat:Marat__AD_1743__Cov_9.38%
0.05693866 USA_MD_Phillip_Calvert:I2099__AD_1626__Cov_27.95%
0.07588756 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.13802593 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA:NEV2__AD_125 0__Cov_unknown

alexmegas777
09-15-2024, 11:03 AM
Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 3.5338% / 0.03533752
77.8 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
17.0 France_Jean-Paul_Marat
4.8 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff
0.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval

Gallop
09-15-2024, 11:34 AM
Too bad, we could already have the coordinates of Christopher Columbus.

:grumpy:

djipon
09-15-2024, 05:13 PM
Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 4.7345% / 0.04734481
91.4 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
4.8 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
3.8 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 5.5082% / 0.05508163
77.4 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
11.8 Switzerland_Anna_Catharina_Bischoff
9.0 Russia_Prince_Dmitry_Alexandrovich_MA
1.8 France_Jean-Paul_Marat

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 4.5131% / 0.04513059
98.0 Hungary_Hunyadi_John_Corvinus
2.0 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval