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View Full Version : The genetic history of Spain in the light of the G25 analysis



cass
09-25-2024, 11:24 PM
In my opinion, the genetic structure is quite conservative and external admixtures are easily detectable.

Feel free to provide your own correlations to ancient samples and cross-analyze samples further. In my opinion, there is a potential for a completely different differentiation between the Basques and the Spanish.

Ancient samples in chronological order
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pXcOh5C6Y072W9pNVPt3CZHsN2GqwfD-/view?usp=sharing

Modern samples


Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian),0.10922262,0.145009 08,0.036643542,-0.00363375,0.044944125,-0.0052059167,-0.0017722917,0.002922875,0.02451725,0.031648292,-0.00209075,0.006762625,-0.012617458,-0.011090083,0.0098679167,-0.001966875,-0.006128125,-0.001082125,-0.0041008333,-0.0015319167,0.0026931667,-0.000391625,-0.002316,-0.0046138333,0.0015566667
Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese),0.11951425,0.14649,0.04 1389,-0.000323,0.04685475,-0.0001395,-0.00052875,0.002942,0.02490075,0.036903,-0.00215175,0.0103035,-0.0176535,-0.0128335,0.01275775,-0.0027845,-0.00475925,-0.00079175,-0.00223125,0.0010005,0.0034625,9.275E-05,-0.00117075,-0.0010545,-0.0002395
Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese),0.1273681,0.14775 95,0.0490634,0.0057171,0.0498553,0.0010876,-0.000141,-0.0005538,0.0255859,0.0364654,-0.004417,0.0096965,-0.0186272,-0.0150697,0.0143594,0.004296,-0.003038,0.0026858,-0.0031172,-0.0011756,0.004517,0.0005194,-0.0056325,-0.0052896,0.0009341
Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian),0.110408,0.144205,0.04 5632,0.000646,0.051702,-0.007251,-0.007285,0.006923,0.025975,0.031345,-0.003248,0.008093,-0.019029,-0.009083,0.014386,-0.013392,-0.015907,0.001267,-0.005405,-0.000875,0.006863,-0.006059,-0.001602,0.001325,0.006466
Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan),0.116384,0.146998,0.039 50325,-0.00363375,0.04208475,-0.00160375,-0.00146875,0.001673,0.01989,0.02870225,-0.00507475,0.0067815,-0.0133425,-0.01169775,0.0046825,-0.00112725,-0.002249,0.00123525,0.00179125,-0.002595,0.00046825,0.00197825,-0.00024625,0.00036175,-0.0048495
Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan),0.11618715,0.1467 0508,0.037654077,-0.0040250769,0.039723308,-0.0034110769,0.00027115385,0.0031416923,0.02065692 3,0.029914538,-0.0025233846,0.0074241538,-0.012224615,-0.0085536923,0.0088218462,0.00096884615,-0.0036809231,-0.0029236923,-0.0023784615,-0.0039826154,0.0032538462,0.0018168462,-0.0017444615,-0.00018530769,-0.0014737692
Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan),0.11761722,0.1 4792878,0.038927333,0.0010766667,0.039392,-0.0013632222,0.00039166667,0.0030767778,0.01740733 3,0.027942889,-0.0030313333,0.0062777778,-0.015559778,-0.0084102222,0.0064392222,0.0025192222,0.001361777 8,0.001464,-0.00087977778,-0.0013478889,0.00097033333,0.00075577778,-0.0017528889,0.00020088889,-0.00023944444
Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan),0.11572,0.14759 033,0.036832,-0.0060293333,0.042777,-0.0016733333,0.00141,0.00015366667,0.021679333,0.0 2934,-0.002219,0.0092913333,-0.01442,-0.007248,0.003212,-0.0028726667,-0.0028246667,0.0013936667,-0.00088,-0.0017923333,0.0032856667,0.0019373333,0.001068333 3,-0.006627,-0.0058676667
Spanish_Biscay_West,0.1203111,0.1493845,0.0496292, 0.0097546,0.049086,0.0011714,-0.001927,0.0035996,0.0265268,0.0348616,-0.0055049,0.0108953,-0.0192517,-0.0162946,0.010464,0.0013788,-0.0057631,0.001837,-0.002313,-0.0017634,0.0071,-0.0004698,-0.0056324,-0.004133,0.0019878
Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian),0.081293684,0.14570168 ,0.030268895,-0.012903,0.037836895,-0.0062237368,-0.0064935789,0.00081368421,0.031604421,0.029052263 ,-0.00049573684,0.0052611053,-0.0071747895,-0.013617474,0.011022053,-0.0021981579,-0.0027381579,-0.0034873158,-0.010843053,0.00098736842,0.00060405263,-0.0064298947,0.0016412105,-0.0034183158,0.0017016842
Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian),0.094473,0.15 436,0.034695,-0.011628,0.043085,-0.006414,-0.0094,0.000692,0.016975,0.028247,0.002111,0.00644 4,-0.015758,-0.010322,0.003664,-0.009944,0.000652,-0.005448,-0.003142,-0.002626,0.003119,0.000124,-0.001849,-0.001205,-0.003233
Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian),0.116187,0.14608,0. 043658923,0.00084476923,0.046943615,-0.0038616154,-0.00034346154,0.0022543846,0.025046308,0.032578231 ,-0.0051589231,0.0084040769,-0.015883769,-0.014249231,0.010147692,0.0010708462,-0.0021562308,-0.0013936154,-0.0035290769,-0.0031264615,0.0033402308,-0.0017312308,-0.0045411538,-0.0040969231,-0.00059884615
Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian),0.10775233,0. 14386667,0.040477333,-0.0021533333,0.043802667,0.0018593333,-0.0017233333,0.004615,0.028428667,0.029218333,-0.0023276667,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067796667,-0.0017313333,-0.004525,-0.0022926667,0.000291,-0.00090666667,0.0013146667,-0.0025703333,-0.002754
Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Burgos_North_(Castilian), 0.1236117,0.1476578,0.0497421,0.0020672,0.0495476,-0.0034583,-0.000611,0.000877,0.0240111,0.0378322,-0.0068692,0.0086174,-0.0189989,-0.0126612,0.0114276,0.0019225,-0.0059585,-0.0001141,-0.0034943,-0.0038143,0.0077986,0.0006554,-0.0041904,-0.0021207,-0.0007785
Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian),0.12179 1,0.1421745,0.0499685,0.0075905,0.0475475,0.001255 ,-0.0029375,-0.001269,0.0206565,0.0374495,-0.010474,0.01139,-0.017393,-0.0228455,0.0114005,0.0145185,0.01356,-0.002914,-0.0040855,-0.0006875,-0.000312,-0.001422,-0.003759,-0.0059045,-0.0020955
Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian),0.1140508,0.1470488,0.038617 2,-0.0044574,0.0423462,-0.0050202,-0.001974,0.0020768,0.0225384,0.0329484,-0.0028254,0.0083024,-0.0161446,-0.011918,0.0100164,-0.0034736,-0.0064932,0.0002028,-0.0009554,-0.001676,0.0034688,0.0010634,-0.000715,-0.005567,-0.0017242
Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan),0.114582,0.14623633,0. 045883333,0.0023686667,0.047188333,-2.89E-19,-0.0020366667,0.0023843333,0.022361333,0.030494333,-0.0018946667,0.0085923333,-0.016006,-0.010642667,0.0088673333,0.001591,-0.000652,-0.001647,-0.001131,-0.00095866667,0.0061973333,-0.005729,-0.0039026667,-0.001928,0.00095766667
Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan),0.1192866,0 .1490798,0.045707,0.0046512,0.0459162,0.0033466,0. 0032432,0.003646,0.0208614,0.0296314,-0.0041572,0.0070438,-0.014331,-0.0092206,0.007763,-0.0004244,-0.006102,-0.0001016,0.0023632,-0.0035268,0.0035686,-4.96E-05,-0.0039932,-0.003639,0.0015326
Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan),0.11 90875,0.14445912,0.042190375,0.0020995,0.044200375 ,-0.000662375,-0.002203125,0.00144225,0.020273375,0.02785925,0.00 162375,0.005994625,-0.01302625,-0.013211875,0.007617375,0.002486125,-0.001743875,0.00109275,-0.000801375,0.00032825,0.00155975,0.00261225,-0.000939875,-0.004910375,-0.000733375
Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan),0.12432,0.1492 8278,0.044123111,0.0021174444,0.046675333,0.001642 3333,-0.00018277778,0.00097444444,0.021111444,0.02897533 3,-0.0028871111,0.0064274444,-0.014965222,-0.012401222,0.0075702222,0.0049794444,0.0003187777 8,0.0013231111,-0.00081,-0.0014034444,0.0029393333,0.0016624444,-0.00067088889,-0.0026238889,-0.00071844444
Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan),0.1213354,0.145 9315,0.0418982,0.0032946,0.0411769,0.0016175,-0.0004464,0.003369,0.019982,0.0308893,-0.0020622,0.0088722,-0.0134539,-0.013487,0.0075732,0.0030497,0.0020472,-0.0006207,0.0016719,-0.0027263,0.0028325,-0.0010017,-0.0003451,0.0001325,-0.0016524
Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan),0.12217011,0.14 680056,0.042991778,0.0020456667,0.044247556,-0.0015185556,0.00065277778,0.0021024444,0.02258855 6,0.029805778,-0.00092033333,0.0089422222,-0.016402111,-0.013655333,0.0083997778,0.00023577778,-0.0014196667,0.00064755556,0.001257,-0.00090322222,0.0073898889,0.00032966667,-0.001698,-0.00078977778,-0.00063866667
Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan),0.12179082,0.1 4586682,0.040866182,0.0047275455,0.042049727,0.001 8506364,-0.0024141818,0.00079718182,0.018425727,0.028229909 ,-0.0013579091,0.0053950909,-0.016136455,-0.013849727,0.010068,0.0014222727,0.0019201818,0.0 019232727,0.00010263636,-0.0011255455,0.0017242727,-0.00064063636,-0.0027674545,-0.0016760909,0.00042436364
Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan),0.1212217,0.149689,0.0413324,0 .0015181,0.0445928,0.0002511,0.0005405,0.0013385,0 .0214545,0.0300325,-0.0017376,0.0069987,-0.0137213,-0.0123585,0.0073289,0.0012596,7.82E-05,-0.0002533,-0.0007416,-0.0013632,0.0027077,0.0008285,-0.0014667,-0.0004217,0.0022872
Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan),0.12198033,0.1 4657467,0.0426775,0.002584,0.044982667,-0.00083666667,-0.00086166667,0.0043845,0.025395,0.034321,-0.0023003333,0.0096163333,-0.014791833,-0.012454833,0.0070348333,0.000442,-0.0014341667,0.00038,-0.0044413333,-0.0016048333,0.0037016667,-0.00061833333,-0.0028348333,-0.0064466667,0.0018163333
Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan),0.122 0184,0.1468458,0.0414078,-0.0017442,0.0428388,-0.0044064,-0.000141,0.004523,0.0187752,0.0329484,-0.0032802,0.0078232,-0.0166202,-0.0111198,0.009636,-0.0033942,-0.0052938,-0.000684,0.000402,0.0003252,0.002895,0.0007418,-0.0035742,-0.0053984,-0.0012934
Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran),0.10509667,0.14 995967,0.033061,-0.0011843333,0.040930333,-0.0027886667,-0.003995,-0.0010003333,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993333,0.0050453333,-0.010604667,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026076667,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064106667,0.000417,0.0021213333,-0.00474,-0.0014786667,-0.0027713333,0.0014373333
Spanish_Galicia_(Galician),0.10876428,0.14646189,0 .041064167,-0.0016508889,0.041204278,-9.2944444E-05,-0.0054572222,0.0024230556,0.024713333,0.0300285,-0.0021291111,0.0057365,-0.012611333,-0.012156667,0.011144111,0.00058927778,-0.0042375,-0.0021606667,-0.0050417778,-0.0010075556,0.00087344444,-0.002899,-0.00080794444,-0.0036818333,0.0013037778
Spanish_La_Rioja_(Riojan),0.12158373,0.149929,0.04 5151545,0.00076345455,0.048064727,-0.0034987273,-0.0022218182,0.0018670909,0.024970455,0.037225727,-0.001609,0.0082016364,-0.019177091,-0.013862273,0.0097842727,0.0018079091,-0.00085345455,0.00056436364,-0.0035423636,-0.00038663636,0.0059781818,-0.000652,-0.0059718182,-0.0064083636,0.00065309091
Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian),0.10927,0.14149733,0.0383 40333,-0.0031223333,0.043597667,-0.0034396667,-0.0072066667,-0.003,0.027338,0.028671667,-0.0047633333,0.0041963333,-0.013032667,-0.013257667,0.0065143333,0.0014583333,0.0032163333 ,0.000127,-0.001634,0.002251,0.0061973333,-0.003627,-0.0010273333,-0.002209,0.0012373333
Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia),0.10927,0.147252,0.036581,-0.013889,0.051086,0.001952,0.001645,-0.004384,0.019021,0.042825,0.00065,0.001049,-0.010406,-0.003441,-0.000679,-0.010077,-0.005607,0.003041,0.004651,-0.002751,0.001497,-0.000866,0.00037,-0.005422,0.004191
Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese),0.116669,0.1457285,0.0 43369,-0.0040375,0.0472395,-0.0027885,-0.003525,-0.002192,0.0228045,0.0357185,-0.0019485,0.011015,-0.012562,-0.0170655,0.017101,0.007425,-0.0048895,-0.0015205,-0.0055935,0.000563,0.006426,0.0040805,-0.009305,0.00235,0.0041915
Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian),0.1179965,0.14462825, 0.04085475,-0.00088825,0.046470167,-0.0014408333,-0.0019975,0.0016345833,0.023162417,0.033258083,-0.0030041667,0.0083300833,-0.012859333,-0.012340083,0.0096021667,-0.00085066667,-0.0046938333,-0.0017209167,-0.001236,-0.00091708333,0.0055735,-0.0013705833,-0.0020438333,-0.0051410833,0.0020556667
Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian),0.11268486,0 .14623614,0.037334857,-0.00050757143,0.040490857,-0.0023905714,-0.0049685714,0.002736,0.023724571,0.031500857,-0.004779,0.008842,-0.015482143,-0.012503857,0.010683143,0.0035801429,-0.0010057143,-7.2285714E-05,-0.0041301429,-0.0048058571,0.0038502857,-0.00033557143,-0.0039438571,-0.0013254286,0.0032672857
Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian),0.12032729, 0.14623614,0.043476571,0.0011535714,0.045283,-0.0015538571,-0.001175,0.0011867143,0.024016857,0.034833143,-0.0056141429,0.0068511429,-0.015970286,-0.015118857,0.0078718571,0.0046974286,0.0027568571 ,0.0013937143,-0.00087985714,-0.00026785714,0.0057755714,0.00040628571,-0.0064088571,-0.002169,0.00056457143

Basque_France,0.128051,0.1520246,0.0551727,0.01282 31,0.0564104,0.0025099,-0.00141,0.0033229,0.0305968,0.0412036,-0.0092724,0.0103408,-0.0209761,-0.0140237,0.0132192,-0.0019359,-0.0119173,0.0030278,-0.0007165,-0.0044144,0.010157,0.0024855,-0.0086397,-0.0091698,7.18E-05
Basque_France_Labourd,0.13172436,0.15159073,0.0590 70727,0.011980364,0.057688909,0.00081136364,-0.002927,0.0038809091,0.033634818,0.041980727,-0.0052258182,0.010981091,-0.022583,-0.017090273,0.016570091,0.0012776364,-0.0082141818,0.00074854545,-0.00036572727,-0.0076286364,0.0084055455,-0.0010341818,-0.0088738182,-0.0080624545,0.0034400909
Basque_France_Lower_Navarre,0.12965473,0.14826718, 0.055539636,0.011040727,0.055030909,0.0014451818,-0.0011536364,0.0010908182,0.030399727,0.044250091,-0.005034,0.011716818,-0.022758545,-0.016026636,0.017224091,-9.6454545E-05,-0.0076688182,0.0026373636,-0.002434,-0.0018646364,0.0064885455,0.0024506364,-0.0078540909,-0.0095960909,0.002863
Basque_France_Soule,0.13172427,0.15482191,0.054648 182,0.0068123636,0.058528455,0.00091281818,-0.0019013636,0.0012166364,0.030994545,0.043239636,-0.0059936364,0.011989455,-0.022744909,-0.016727455,0.012461455,-0.0010968182,-0.0097313636,0.00096745455,-0.0004,-0.0032401818,0.0092336364,0.0020908182,-0.0076526364,-0.0095192727,0.0025909091
Basque_Spain,0.12833575,0.15232925,0.0554365,0.007 752,0.0531635,0.00237075,0.00052875,0.003519,0.028 17275,0.040593,-0.00592725,0.00876725,-0.0212955,-0.01235175,0.018865,-0.0041435,-0.0138535,0.00199525,0.00072275,-0.00675325,0.007362,-0.0006185,-0.00724075,-0.0066275,0.00311325
Basque_Spain_Alava,0.12758536,0.14854418,0.0590364 55,0.015797636,0.053772273,0.0043863636,-0.0024141818,0.0040906364,0.025416636,0.038021091,-0.0069531818,0.0096324545,-0.022069273,-0.014950727,0.015891545,-0.00078345455,-0.007337,6.9090909E-05,0.00039981818,-0.004036,0.0089726364,0.0019447273,-0.0048067273,-0.006244,-0.00044627273
Basque_Spain_Biscay,0.13017218,0.15029845,0.057116 727,0.010717727,0.056457818,0.0059580909,-0.00089727273,0.00094409091,0.026755455,0.04198063 6,-0.0075289091,0.014700545,-0.024637091,-0.017428,0.015743455,0.00081972727,-0.0047056364,0.0027870909,0.00030845455,-0.0022169091,0.010050273,0.001675,-0.0068121818,-0.0088071818,-0.00021772727
Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Central,0.13099991,0.1484519 1,0.053894091,0.011187545,0.055199,0.0012676364,-0.003995,0.00054536364,0.029767545,0.041566364,-0.0054622727,0.012602364,-0.020636727,-0.017740636,0.015953273,0.0058460909,-0.0030225455,0.0014050909,-0.00068554545,-0.0051502727,0.005615,-0.001259,-0.010408909,-0.010362727,0.0014042727
Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Southwest,0.131207,0.1493750 9,0.057939364,0.012274,0.05657,0.0019014545,-0.0023713636,0.00067118182,0.026885545,0.042278818 ,-0.0058606364,0.010041091,-0.022353091,-0.019517455,0.015299364,0.0049661818,-0.0026907273,0.0025337273,-0.0018053636,-0.001171,0.010243273,0.0023606364,-0.010465,-0.0099685455,0.0019158182
Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Tolosa,0.13190833,0.15041111 ,0.058286222,0.0090081111,0.057583444,0.0001238888 9,-0.0033162222,0.00041022222,0.031360333,0.045599667 ,-0.0045287778,0.011606333,-0.022778111,-0.018762667,0.017945222,0.0037271111,-0.0058094444,0.0027731111,-0.0018155556,-6.9555556E-05,0.0087901111,0.0024867778,-0.0068883333,-0.0090371111,0.0022618889
Basque_Spain_Navarre,0.125205,0.147252,0.046009,0. 005814,0.051702,0.001952,-0.002585,0,0.029247,0.044648,-0.011042,0.012439,-0.020664,-0.016928,0.012758,-0.006364,-0.016428,0.006334,0.003771,-0.008754,0.001123,-0.000495,-0.002218,-0.004579,0.005868
Basque_Spain_Navarre_Central-West,0.12727482,0.14854427,0.053242636,0.005608454 5,0.051617818,0.00053254545,-0.0035251818,-0.0014894545,0.027815182,0.041831545,-0.0034398182,0.0098774545,-0.021096364,-0.018804273,0.014818182,0.00097636364,-0.0041724545,0.0023034545,-0.004948,-0.00050018182,0.0070785455,0.00039336364,-0.0062743636,-0.0079746364,2.1727273E-05
Basque_Spain_Navarre_Northwest,0.12955136,0.149744 36,0.056465455,0.010541545,0.057577091,0.000608454 55,-0.00061954545,0.0020768182,0.030213636,0.044830091 ,-0.0060673636,0.012084818,-0.024326273,-0.019242091,0.014151727,0.0025795455,-0.0034966364,0.0037661818,-0.002057,-0.00274,0.010050455,0.002192,-0.0093444545,-0.010921455,0.0025473636
Basque_Spain_Navarre_Roncal,0.13110355,0.14882109, 0.054956636,0.012215273,0.054555545,0.0015972727,-0.00141,0.00094409091,0.033634727,0.040390273,-0.006835,0.010122727,-0.020474727,-0.016952455,0.015805182,0.00079554545,-0.003864,0.0037201818,0.00021690909,-0.0012505455,0.0084622727,0.0013375455,-0.0054899091,-0.0087085455,0.0014369091




Standard analysis of major genetic elements
https://postimg.cc/cr3Z3Jdd




Modern vs Ancient
https://postimg.cc/2Lmdx6gg




Target: cass
Distance: 4.3263% / 0.04326332
76.2 Spain_Visigoth
13.6 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
10.2 Spain_HG.SG


Distance to: cass
0.05777315 Spain_Visigoth:I12162__AD_558__Cov_37.12%
0.05829927 Spain_Visigoth:I12032__AD_558__Cov_18.37%
0.05974849 Spain_Visigoth:I12031__AD_558__Cov_47.99%
0.06220774 Spain_Visigoth:I12163__AD_558__Cov_36.14%
0.06247915 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8206__BC_153__Cov_36.20%
0.06468723 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III:NEO649__BC_2166__Cov_unknown
0.06664908 Spain_C_oSteppe:EHU001__BC_2171__Cov_46.55%
0.07283808 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%
0.07537891 Spain_NE_BA_o:I4558__BC_1600__Cov_55.11%
0.07686888 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8214__BC_425__Cov_45.92%
0.07853941 Spain_C_oSteppe:I6623__BC_2150__Cov_53.69%
0.08346212 Spain_Roman_oLocal:I8202__AD_200__Cov_9.63%
0.08489321 Spain_IA_o:I3324__BC_273__Cov_21.13%
0.08719009 Spain_IA_Celt:I3759__BC_272__Cov_62.90%
0.08748249 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo042__AD_828 __Cov_39.17%
0.08782735 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8209__BC_604__Cov_73.72%
0.08783676 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775__AD_650__Cov_10.03%
0.08806589 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
0.08872235 Spain_IA_Celt:I3758__BC_276__Cov_74.66%
0.08941738 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.08947495 Spain_LBA_low_res:I20736__BC_1150__Cov_7.95%
0.08984194 Spain_Roman_oLocal:I8339__AD_173__Cov_23.45%
0.08999805 Spain_Carolingian:I7675__AD_797__Cov_10.71%
0.09043446 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo060__AD_828 __Cov_82.05%
0.09068196 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%

Beowulf
09-25-2024, 11:26 PM
<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.02683375
Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%


0.03161358
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%


0.03226105
Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%


0.03320343
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%


0.03414200
Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%


0.03443651
Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%


0.03466401
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%


0.03485946
Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%


0.03587067
Spain_Visigoth:I12031__AD_558__Cov_47.99%


0.03670980
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%


0.03774973
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo060__AD_828 __Cov_82.05%


0.03778791
Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8209__BC_604__Cov_73.72%


0.03828773
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%


0.03879850
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%


0.03992996
Spain_NE_BA_o:I4558__BC_1600__Cov_55.11%


0.04045870
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%


0.04109891
Spain_Visigoth:I12034__AD_558__Cov_43.83%


0.04128995
Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775__AD_650__Cov_10.03%


0.04134961
Spain_Medieval:I10852__AD_1042__Cov_26.45%


0.04154292
Spain_Roman_oLocal:I8339__AD_173__Cov_23.45%


0.04203116
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%


0.04223975
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo257__AD_828 __Cov_61.27%


0.04224926
Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%


0.04274891
Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%


0.04282512
Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%



</tbody>




Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0084% / 0.00843613
36.9 Spain_Visigoth
16.1 Spain_Medieval
10.7 Spain_Greek_oLocal
7.0 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
5.7 Spain_SE_c.3-4CE
5.6 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
5.5 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
3.8 Spain_LBA_low_res
3.6 Spain_Formentera_MBA
3.5 Spain_Greek_oAegean
1.4 Spain_C_oSteppe
0.1 Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean
0.1 Spain_Islamic

Pedro Ruben
09-26-2024, 12:16 AM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.2121% / 0.01212060
38.0 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
15.2 Spain_IA_Celt_o
13.2 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
11.6 Spain_Roman_oMixed
8.2 Spain_Visigoth
7.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
3.2 Spain_IA_Celt
1.8 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
1.6 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.2971% / 0.01297078
18.6 Spain_IA_Celt
18.2 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
13.8 Spain_Visigoth
12.0 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
11.4 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
10.4 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
4.8 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
4.2 Spain_Almoloya_Argar_Early
2.0 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
2.0 Spain_IA_Celt_o
1.8 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol
0.4 Spain_C_oSteppe
0.4 Spain_Meso_El_Toral_III

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.9946% / 0.00994647
24.8 Spain_IA_Celt_o
16.4 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
12.8 Spain_Visigoth
10.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
10.4 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
7.8 Spain_C_oSteppe
7.4 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
4.4 Spain_IA
2.6 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
2.4 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
0.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim

Distance to: Pedro_scaled
0.03482679 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.03516029 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03669863 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I10866__AD_3__Cov_69.41%
0.03702883 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.03769051 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.03779165 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03812639 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.03861831 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03955570 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.04072324 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.04109379 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.04243829 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.04274522 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04308918 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo045__AD_828 __Cov_25.80%
0.04317375 Spain_Roman:I3982__AD_300__Cov_70.42%
0.04482204 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.04615630 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%
0.04619237 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.04725032 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.04735226 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%
0.04756115 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7424__AD_1550__Cov_46.7 0%
0.04779675 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04808933 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.04851201 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.04889323 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%

vader
09-26-2024, 01:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/OvYWynm.png

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 0.7486% / 0.00748566 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.6 Spain_Medieval
16.8 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier
16.4 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
11.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
9.8 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
5.2 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval

Athalafuns
09-26-2024, 09:08 AM
This analysis is very valuable, I will look at it more closely later.

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Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.6000% / 0.01599993
52.0 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
27.0 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
15.6 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
5.4 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)

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Target: RNB27
Distance: 0.8153% / 0.00815297
26.0 Spain_Visigoth
17.4 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
15.0 Spain_Roman_oMixed
12.4 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
11.4 Spain_Roman_oAfrica
5.6 Spain_IA
5.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
4.8 Spain_Islamic
1.8 Spain_Medieval
0.4 Spain_Greek_oLocal

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.6462% / 0.01646161 | ADC: 1x RC
39.0 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
38.0 Spain_Medieval
23.0 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona

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0.02376319 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.02942567 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.02947970 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.02958304 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.02967530 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03104245 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.03120253 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%
0.03190755 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%
0.03334481 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.03442890 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.03648490 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.03649342 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03720638 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.03784385 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
0.03788877 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.03799936 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03851312 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo257__AD_828 __Cov_61.27%
0.03860407 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%
0.03882116 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%
0.03894478 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.03912846 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8209__BC_604__Cov_73.72%
0.03926702 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo060__AD_828 __Cov_82.05%
0.03946106 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.04028730 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.04048499 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo057__AD_610 __Cov_74.03%

cass
09-26-2024, 10:11 AM
If I were to speculate, Yamnay's first raid was quite early. Unfortunately, it is not rather an original Y individual, but its offspring with a local Spanish or French population.

This is what it looks like if you model this sample with samples from before the year 2800.

Target: Spain_SE_Iberia_BA_Valencian:PLZ001__BC_2800__Cov_ 65.01%
Distance: 0.9570% / 0.00956988 | R3P
61.0 Spain_MLN
22.2 Ukraine_Deriivka_N
16.8 Croatia_MN_Sopot


Target: Spain_SE_Iberia_BA_Valencian:PLZ001__BC_2800__Cov_ 65.01%
Distance: 0.8448% / 0.00844754 | R4P
42.8 France_N_BA
27.8 France_LN_South
16.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
12.8 Czechia_EE

EasternLusitanian
09-26-2024, 01:31 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0094% / 0.00938863
28.7 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
17.5 Spain_Islamic
15.0 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
8.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
6.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
5.8 Spain_NE_Iberia_BA
5.5 Spain_IA_low_res
5.2 Spain_NE_BA_o
3.7 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
3.6 Spain_IA

Does that hellenic local mean that it is a local iberian found in a greek colony?

Distance to: MV_scaled
0.02439257 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.02841574 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03004497 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03162022 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.03319046 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.03327406 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.03403974 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.03484314 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.03619220 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03647273 Spain_Roman:I3982__AD_300__Cov_70.42%
0.03694207 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%
0.03707345 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03870922 Spain_Zapateria_Argar:ZAP002__BC_1875__Cov_53.57%
0.03877177 Spain_Islamic:I12647__AD_1200__Cov_53.83%
0.03981800 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.03989339 Spain_Islamic:I12516__AD_1013__Cov_36.84%
0.03996137 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.04053944 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.04068818 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.04162444 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04190571 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.04232826 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3981__AD_500__Cov_44.98%
0.04275738 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.04314087 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%
0.04346915 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%

Erronkari
09-26-2024, 02:35 PM
Added samples for iberoamerican new worlders.





South_Amerian_Native,0.048944,-0.307705,0.118039,0.099161,-0.108636,-0.014223,-0.309039,-0.3616,-0.019634,-0.020593,-0.015914,-0.002847,0.006392,0.013212,-0.008822,0.007027,0.00678,0.002154,0.00352,-0.00075,-0.001996,0.012365,-0.004067,-0.000964,-0.006227
North_Amerian_Native,0.0513628,-0.3193842,0.1107795,0.0821028,-0.1070585,-0.0184765,-0.2344232,-0.2786998,-0.0112105,-0.0220508,0.0021518,-0.0029318,0.0026572,0.0066745,-0.0099412,0.0027345,0.00264,0.0010848,0.007196,0.0 054478,0.0005928,0.000216,0.0016485,0.004895,0.004 775

West_African,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
West_African,-0.6226124,0.064486,0.022863,0.0170382,0.0029622,0. 009273,-0.0229135,0.0268834,-0.0388084,0.0279276,0.0057446,-0.0050392,0.0177835,0.0005161,0.0102468,-0.0072759,0.0094202,0.0066352,0.001037,-0.0003909,0.0030572,0.0013138,-0.003374,-0.0002561,-0.0001798


My results:

Distance to: Francisco_scaled
0.03036667 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
0.03596313 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03828643 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.03870147 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.03978145 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.03984229 Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese)
0.04004614 Spanish_La_Rioja_(Riojan)
0.04049246 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.04075520 Basque_Spain_Navarre_Central-West
0.04103264 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.04141788 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.04146109 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.04172029 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.04177148 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.04190426 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Burgos_North_(Castilian)
0.04234537 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.04236140 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.04245423 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.04349455 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.04365997 Spanish_Biscay_West
0.04380624 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.04388952 Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Central
0.04477536 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.04489601 Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.04525151 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)

Target: Francisco_scaled
Distance: 1.8939% / 0.01893946 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.2 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
20.2 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
14.2 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
3.4 South_Amerian_Native

gixajo
09-26-2024, 02:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kHkwJnB.png

https://i.imgur.com/e9mIirx.png

EasternLusitanian
09-26-2024, 02:56 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0094% / 0.00938863
28.7 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
17.5 Spain_Islamic
15.0 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
8.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
6.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
5.8 Spain_NE_Iberia_BA
5.5 Spain_IA_low_res
5.2 Spain_NE_BA_o
3.7 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
3.6 Spain_IA

Does that hellenic local mean that it is a local iberian found in a greek colony?

Distance to: MV_scaled
0.02439257 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.02841574 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03004497 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03162022 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.03319046 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.03327406 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.03403974 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.03484314 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.03619220 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03647273 Spain_Roman:I3982__AD_300__Cov_70.42%
0.03694207 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%
0.03707345 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03870922 Spain_Zapateria_Argar:ZAP002__BC_1875__Cov_53.57%
0.03877177 Spain_Islamic:I12647__AD_1200__Cov_53.83%
0.03981800 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.03989339 Spain_Islamic:I12516__AD_1013__Cov_36.84%
0.03996137 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.04053944 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.04068818 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.04162444 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04190571 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.04232826 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3981__AD_500__Cov_44.98%
0.04275738 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.04314087 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%
0.04346915 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%

Follow up with the modern pops:


Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0185% / 0.01849142
48.0 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
32.7 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
12.5 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
4.7 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
2.1 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)

Distance to: MV_scaled
0.02061811 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.02577221 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.02625750 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.02636880 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.02827545 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.02861486 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
0.02932869 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.03011690 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.03085872 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.03261493 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.03298470 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.03357511 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.03376789 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.03410756 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.03414279 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.03415635 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.03471766 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.03486174 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.03567602 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.03615763 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.03640980 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.03642591 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03661527 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.03664991 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.03691196 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)

Erronkari
09-26-2024, 02:58 PM
Ancient:

Distance to: Francisco_scaled
0.03623737 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03862767 Spain_Roman_oLocal:I8339__AD_173__Cov_23.45%
0.04132528 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.04139580 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.04146768 Spain_Visigoth:I12034__AD_558__Cov_43.83%
0.04188403 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%
0.04220366 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo044__AD_103 6__Cov_79.56%
0.04264553 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.04268554 Spain_Medieval:I10852__AD_1042__Cov_26.45%
0.04316848 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.04322569 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
0.04366486 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.04376975 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.04501657 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo049__AD_993 __Cov_75.30%
0.04558737 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8214__BC_425__Cov_45.92%
0.04610636 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775__AD_650__Cov_10.03%
0.04636376 Spain_IA:I3320__BC_200__Cov_70.14%
0.04643192 Spain_EBA_Mallorca:I4329__BC_2383__Cov_23.42%
0.04684527 Spain_Navarra_EIA:CRU024_ss.A0101__BC_664__Cov_36. 67%
0.04720761 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III:NEO653__BC_1468__Cov_unknown
0.04724197 Spain_Aritgues_LBA:EFA010__BC_1100__Cov_23.50%
0.04727426 Spain_NE_Iberia_BA:MIV001__BC_2100__Cov_17.76%
0.04728434 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo048__AD_828 __Cov_90.53%
0.04738669 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8209__BC_604__Cov_73.72%
0.04773098 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo257__AD_828 __Cov_61.27%

Target: Francisco_scaled
Distance: 1.1702% / 0.01170202 | ADC: 0.25x RC
18.2 Spain_IA
14.8 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
12.0 Spain_EBA
12.0 Spain_Islamic
11.8 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
10.0 Spain_Visigoth
6.0 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
5.8 Spain_MBA
4.8 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian
3.4 South_Amerian_Native
1.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean


Reduced to 4 Populations:

Target: Francisco_scaled
Distance: 1.4912% / 0.01491210 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
38.8 Spain_IA
13.2 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
3.8 South_Amerian_Native

Mopi The Dire Wolf
09-26-2024, 03:12 PM
Target: Mopster_scaled
Distance: 2.6349% / 0.02634860
94.8 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
5.2 Basque_Spain_Alava


Distance to: Mopster_scaled
0.02640627 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.02799712 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.02851590 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.02901921 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.03031585 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.03069115 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.03084953 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.03088613 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.03254526 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.03271395 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.03435041 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.03463148 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.03476180 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03481969 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.03497634 Spanish_Biscay_West
0.03530969 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.03537969 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.03548761 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.03556430 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.03562025 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.03668311 Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese)
0.03762591 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.03769117 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.03771625 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Burgos_North_(Castilian)
0.03898736 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)



Why have I come out as Catalan :(

Mopi The Dire Wolf
09-26-2024, 03:16 PM
Target: Moplin_scaled
Distance: 1.2383% / 0.01238335
31.2 Spain_Visigoth
28.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
14.6 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
8.8 Spain_IA_Celt_o
7.6 Spain_Roman_oMixed
6.8 Spain_Greek_oAegean
2.0 Spain_Islamic
0.8 Spain_Medieval


Distance to: Moplin_scaled
0.03268231 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%
0.03371016 Spain_C_oSteppe:EHU001__BC_2171__Cov_46.55%
0.03511375 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
0.03600572 Spain_NE_BA_o:I4558__BC_1600__Cov_55.11%
0.03612639 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03827391 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.03838658 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8209__BC_604__Cov_73.72%
0.03849398 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03876328 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8214__BC_425__Cov_45.92%
0.04000945 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.04008498 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%
0.04082883 Spain_Visigoth:I12031__AD_558__Cov_47.99%
0.04085796 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.04092508 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo049__AD_993 __Cov_75.30%
0.04105423 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.04127771 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.04159353 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo257__AD_828 __Cov_61.27%
0.04175587 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo060__AD_828 __Cov_82.05%
0.04185923 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.04227615 Spain_Visigoth:I12162__AD_558__Cov_37.12%
0.04232977 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo254__AD_828 __Cov_80.55%
0.04238185 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.04255263 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.04269384 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.04295336 Spain_Visigoth:I12034__AD_558__Cov_43.83%

Beowulf
09-26-2024, 03:30 PM
Target: Mopster_scaled
Distance: 2.6349% / 0.02634860
94.8 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
5.2 Basque_Spain_Alava


Distance to: Mopster_scaled
0.02640627 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.02799712 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.02851590 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.02901921 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.03031585 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.03069115 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.03084953 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.03088613 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.03254526 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.03271395 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.03435041 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.03463148 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.03476180 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03481969 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.03497634 Spanish_Biscay_West
0.03530969 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.03537969 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.03548761 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.03556430 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.03562025 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.03668311 Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese)
0.03762591 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.03769117 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.03771625 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Burgos_North_(Castilian)
0.03898736 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)



Why have I come out as Catalan :(


As expected you'll only get the more northern shifted iberian groups due your mix, like me.

Upsilander
09-26-2024, 03:36 PM
Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 5.9190% / 0.05919009
64.4 Basque_Spain_Alava
24.4 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
11.2 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)

About 2/3 Basque 1/3 Catalan (the distance is not good ofc)


With ancients

Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 3.1360% / 0.03135957
56.8 Spain_Visigoth
17.4 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
12.6 Spain_Roman_oLocal
8.6 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
4.6 Spain_HG.SG


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.03932356 Spain_Visigoth:I12032__AD_558__Cov_18.37%
0.04640900 Spain_C_oSteppe:EHU001__BC_2171__Cov_46.55%
0.04964239 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III:NEO649__BC_2166__Cov_unknown
0.04986091 Spain_NE_BA_o:I4558__BC_1600__Cov_55.11%
0.04992716 Spain_Visigoth:I12031__AD_558__Cov_47.99%
0.05020520 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8206__BC_153__Cov_36.20%
0.05249363 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8214__BC_425__Cov_45.92%
0.05256063 Spain_Visigoth:I12162__AD_558__Cov_37.12%
0.05261542 Spain_C_oSteppe:I6623__BC_2150__Cov_53.69%
0.05418477 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%
0.05561505 Spain_Visigoth:I12163__AD_558__Cov_36.14%
0.05756228 Spain_Roman_oLocal:I8202__AD_200__Cov_9.63%
0.06020086 Basque_Spain_Alava
0.06096533 Spain_Greek_oLocal:I8209__BC_604__Cov_73.72%
0.06187306 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.06192125 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
0.06286988 Spain_IA_Celt:I3759__BC_272__Cov_62.90%
0.06295490 Spain_IA_Celt:I3758__BC_276__Cov_74.66%
0.06317048 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.06326033 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.06382173 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo042__AD_828 __Cov_39.17%
0.06451878 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.06515703 Spanish_Biscay_West
0.06562965 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.06565651 Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese)

cass
09-26-2024, 03:45 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0094% / 0.00938863
28.7 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
17.5 Spain_Islamic
15.0 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
8.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
6.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
5.8 Spain_NE_Iberia_BA
5.5 Spain_IA_low_res
5.2 Spain_NE_BA_o
3.7 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
3.6 Spain_IA

Does that hellenic local mean that it is a local iberian found in a greek colony?



They don't look like Greeks. They have a high proportion of Yamanya and an expressed northern profile.

cass
09-26-2024, 03:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kHkwJnB.png

https://i.imgur.com/e9mIirx.png

Reconquistador :eek:

Upsilander
09-26-2024, 03:56 PM
They don't look like Greeks. They have a high proportion of Yamanya and an expressed northern profile.

The first could be modern West Germanic:

Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8206__BC_153__Cov_36.20%
Distance: 5.0466% / 0.05046602
61.8 GlobularAmphora
26.0 Russia_Karelia_HG
8.8 Georgia_CHG
3.4 Iran_N


Other two are different with local admixture:

Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean:I8208__BC_276__Cov_32.84 %
Distance: 4.7977% / 0.04797684
71.6 Macedonia_N
14.6 Iran_N
5.8 Russia_Karelia_HG
3.8 GlobularAmphora
3.2 Georgia_CHG
0.6 Morocco_Taforalt
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan


Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
Distance: 3.4152% / 0.03415248
63.6 GlobularAmphora
14.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
8.8 Georgia_CHG
8.8 Macedonia_N
4.0 AfontovaGora3
0.4 Morocco_Taforalt


(Notice no Iran there but some extra AG)

axel.aleman
09-26-2024, 04:00 PM
Muestras Antiguas

Distance to: Axel_scaled
0.22164458 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.23946053 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.23962707 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.24910915 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim:I8146__AD_1400__Cov_ 14.73%
0.24973404 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.25909996 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian:GER002__BC_24197__Cov_2.5 0%
0.26658718 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica:I4246__BC_2259__Cov_59.20 %
0.26671814 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.26695320 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575__AD_500__Cov_24.29%
0.26922726 Spain_Islamic:UE2298/MS060__AD_1000__Cov_8.94%
0.27520838 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.27650124 Spain_Islamic_Almohade:I7457__AD_1200__Cov_42.48%
0.27809800 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I3807__AD_1550__Cov_12.6 9%
0.27810544 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I10866__AD_3__Cov_69.41%
0.27830287 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3980__AD_563__Cov_26.40%
0.27856515 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.27934327 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.27973143 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7499__AD_1050__Cov_73.56%
0.28032891 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583__AD_500__Cov_10.81%
0.28041217 Spain_Zapateria_Argar:ZAP002__BC_1875__Cov_53.57%
0.28172337 Spain_SE_c.3-4CE:I4054__AD_300__Cov_22.30%
0.28261148 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I3808__AD_1550__Cov_50.3 7%
0.28276396 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3983__AD_400__Cov_56.37%
0.28301760 Spain_Islamic:I12647__AD_1200__Cov_53.83%
0.28305612 Spain_Ibiza_Punic.SG:MS10614_noUDG.SG__BC_267__Cov _29.11%

axel.aleman
09-26-2024, 04:01 PM
Muestras modernas


Distance to: Axel_scaled
0.27951679 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
0.29158996 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.29272824 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.29594067 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.29698771 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.29723626 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.29822881 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.29947384 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.30041588 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
0.30190852 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.30228683 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.30232994 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.30235221 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.30248061 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
0.30274697 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.30309450 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.30316880 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.30342274 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.30357010 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.30393914 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.30401333 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
0.30460802 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.30517849 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.30546862 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.30737412 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)

R1b-L51
09-26-2024, 04:02 PM
ANCIENT

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02787237 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03113429 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.03291640 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03301196 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.03328633 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.03431405 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.03437888 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03495819 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03511992 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.03675210 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%
0.03726269 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03794528 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.03929378 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.03929597 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.03998953 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.04064655 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04142326 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.04146313 Spain_Roman:I3982__AD_300__Cov_70.42%
0.04173060 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%
0.04199875 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.04210538 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.04367107 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04484630 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%
0.04484758 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.04490233 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%


Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.1208% / 0.01120817
14.2 Spain_Visigoth
13.2 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
11.4 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
9.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
9.0 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
8.6 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian
8.2 Spain_LIA
6.4 Spain_MBA
6.0 Spain_LBA_low_res
5.6 Spain_EBA_Mallorca
4.8 Spain_Islamic
2.6 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
0.2 Spain_LBA


MODERN

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8950% / 0.01895023
29.8 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
22.8 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
19.8 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
12.0 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
10.6 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
5.0 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02155854 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.02280129 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.02410419 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.02523459 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.02605434 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.02711234 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.02734857 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.02741352 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.02757272 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.02803424 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.02823567 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.03016724 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
0.03065486 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.03105272 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.03159300 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.03160600 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.03169658 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.03176743 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.03198020 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.03306190 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.03313938 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.03343061 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.03357472 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03362769 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
0.03394242 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)

cass
09-26-2024, 04:04 PM
The first could be modern West Germanic:

Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8206__BC_153__Cov_36.20%
Distance: 5.0466% / 0.05046602
61.8 GlobularAmphora
26.0 Russia_Karelia_HG
8.8 Georgia_CHG
3.4 Iran_N


Other two are different with local admixture:

Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean:I8208__BC_276__Cov_32.84 %
Distance: 4.7977% / 0.04797684
71.6 Macedonia_N
14.6 Iran_N
5.8 Russia_Karelia_HG
3.8 GlobularAmphora
3.2 Georgia_CHG
0.6 Morocco_Taforalt
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan


Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
Distance: 3.4152% / 0.03415248
63.6 GlobularAmphora
14.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
8.8 Georgia_CHG
8.8 Macedonia_N
4.0 AfontovaGora3
0.4 Morocco_Taforalt


(Notice no Iran there but some extra AG)


IMHO Celts
https://i.ibb.co/fM0pWQv/Zrzut-ekranu-26-9-2024-18422-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/0qJMLQt)


...after thinking it over, one Celtic, the other Celto-Germanic

Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
Distance: 3.2710% / 0.03271035
99.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
0.4 Southeastern_European

Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8206__BC_153__Cov_36.20%
Distance: 3.1494% / 0.03149414
63.6 Early_Germanic
35.4 Keltic_Central_Euro
1.0 Eurasian_Nomad

Andullero
09-26-2024, 04:21 PM
Muestras modernas

Distance to: Andullero
0.23024999 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
0.24317018 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.25262184 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.25543180 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.25546640 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.25555707 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.25664876 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.25912098 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
0.25941666 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.25942025 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
0.26154215 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.26207254 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.26286751 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.26315382 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.26325362 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.26398859 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.26434866 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.26510027 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.26519049 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.26536092 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.26749318 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.26770075 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.26780581 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.26787563 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.26807402 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)

Target: Andullero
Distance: 23.0250% / 0.23024999
100.0 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)

Andullero
09-26-2024, 04:35 PM
Muestras antiguas

Distance to: Andullero
0.18374839 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica:I4246__BC_2259__Cov_59.20 %
0.18834363 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim:I8146__AD_1400__Cov_ 14.73%
0.20872936 Spain_Islamic:UE2298/MS060__AD_1000__Cov_8.94%
0.21103307 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.21720722 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575__AD_500__Cov_24.29%
0.22109560 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3980__AD_563__Cov_26.40%
0.22155873 Spain_Islamic_Almohade:I7457__AD_1200__Cov_42.48%
0.22504077 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I10866__AD_3__Cov_69.41%
0.22643386 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583__AD_500__Cov_10.81%
0.22729464 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.23002174 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7499__AD_1050__Cov_73.56%
0.23083483
Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3983__AD_400__Cov_56.37%
0.23086853 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I3807__AD_1550__Cov_12.6 9%
0.23328799 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578__AD_500__Cov_11.01%
0.23347127 Spain_SE_c.3-4CE:I4054__AD_300__Cov_22.30%
0.23361167 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576__AD_482__Cov_70.24%
0.23379050 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.23672221 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3981__AD_500__Cov_44.98%
0.23725951 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.23794655 Spain_Ibiza_Punic.SG:MS10614_noUDG.SG__BC_267__Cov _29.11%
0.23838884 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian:GER002__BC_24197__Cov_2.5 0%
0.23984536 Spain_Zapateria_Argar:ZAP002__BC_1875__Cov_53.57%
0.24000885 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581__AD_500__Cov_42.28%
0.24046590
Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I3808__AD_1550__Cov_50.3 7%
0.24081418 Spain_Islamic:I12647__AD_1200__Cov_53.83%


Target: Andullero
Distance: 16.1454% / 0.16145404
67.4 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
30.4 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol
2.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim

R1b-L51
09-26-2024, 04:36 PM
Added samples for iberoamerican new worlders.




My results:

Distance to: Francisco_scaled
0.03036667 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
0.03596313 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03828643 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.03870147 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.03978145 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.03984229 Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese)
0.04004614 Spanish_La_Rioja_(Riojan)
0.04049246 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.04075520 Basque_Spain_Navarre_Central-West
0.04103264 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.04141788 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.04146109 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.04172029 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.04177148 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.04190426 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Burgos_North_(Castilian)
0.04234537 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.04236140 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.04245423 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.04349455 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.04365997 Spanish_Biscay_West
0.04380624 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.04388952 Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Central
0.04477536 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.04489601 Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.04525151 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)

Target: Francisco_scaled
Distance: 1.8939% / 0.01893946 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.2 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
20.2 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
14.2 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
3.4 South_Amerian_Native

pure iberian amphora

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
09-26-2024, 05:15 PM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.8357% / 0.01835706
26.8 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
25.4 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
21.8 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
15.2 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
8.8 Basque_Spain_Navarre
2.0 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)



Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.02098583 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.02123525 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.02304136 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.02314365 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.02576487 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.02671430 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.02685792 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.02733048 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.02759535 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
0.02762403 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.02818067 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.02907036 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.02929006 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.02992266 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.03063589 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.03077930 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.03141076 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.03169604 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.03191548 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.03237237 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.03239157 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.03299895 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.03384750 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.03402434 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.03429559 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)




Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.0417% / 0.01041697
24.6 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
23.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
16.6 Spain_C_oSteppe
16.4 Spain_Islamic_Zira
9.4 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona
5.6 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
3.2 Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean
1.0 Spain_Roman_oLocal


Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.02651047 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.02811094 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03093560 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03133598 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.03262885 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.03283678 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03301355 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03374641 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%
0.03458888 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.03562652 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.03611261 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo045__AD_828 __Cov_25.80%
0.03661313 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.03716329 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.03721451 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.03796540 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03934653 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.04009365 Spain_Roman:I3982__AD_300__Cov_70.42%
0.04022259 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.04117439 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04160122 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%
0.04248018 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.04295653 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo057__AD_610 __Cov_74.03%
0.04375874 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.04516733 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo060__AD_828 __Cov_82.05%
0.04554424 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%

cass
09-26-2024, 05:17 PM
Muestras antiguas

Distance to: Andullero
0.18374839 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica:I4246__BC_2259__Cov_59.20 %
0.18834363 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim:I8146__AD_1400__Cov_ 14.73%
0.20872936 Spain_Islamic:UE2298/MS060__AD_1000__Cov_8.94%
0.21103307 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.21720722 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575__AD_500__Cov_24.29%
0.22109560 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3980__AD_563__Cov_26.40%
0.22155873 Spain_Islamic_Almohade:I7457__AD_1200__Cov_42.48%
0.22504077 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I10866__AD_3__Cov_69.41%
0.22643386 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3583__AD_500__Cov_10.81%
0.22729464 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.23002174 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7499__AD_1050__Cov_73.56%
0.23083483
Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3983__AD_400__Cov_56.37%
0.23086853 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I3807__AD_1550__Cov_12.6 9%
0.23328799 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3578__AD_500__Cov_11.01%
0.23347127 Spain_SE_c.3-4CE:I4054__AD_300__Cov_22.30%
0.23361167 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3576__AD_482__Cov_70.24%
0.23379050 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.23672221 Spain_Roman_oAfrica:I3981__AD_500__Cov_44.98%
0.23725951 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.23794655 Spain_Ibiza_Punic.SG:MS10614_noUDG.SG__BC_267__Cov _29.11%
0.23838884 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian:GER002__BC_24197__Cov_2.5 0%
0.23984536 Spain_Zapateria_Argar:ZAP002__BC_1875__Cov_53.57%
0.24000885 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3581__AD_500__Cov_42.28%
0.24046590
Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I3808__AD_1550__Cov_50.3 7%
0.24081418 Spain_Islamic:I12647__AD_1200__Cov_53.83%


Target: Andullero
Distance: 16.1454% / 0.16145404
67.4 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
30.4 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol
2.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim

It would be worth adding colonial samples, otherwise the calculator looks for random very early equivalents.

vader
09-26-2024, 07:00 PM
Added samples for iberoamerican new worlders.




My results:

Distance to: Francisco_scaled
0.03036667 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
0.03596313 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.03828643 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.03870147 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.03978145 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.03984229 Spanish_Aragon_North_(Aragonese)
0.04004614 Spanish_La_Rioja_(Riojan)
0.04049246 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.04075520 Basque_Spain_Navarre_Central-West
0.04103264 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.04141788 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.04146109 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.04172029 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.04177148 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.04190426 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Burgos_North_(Castilian)
0.04234537 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.04236140 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.04245423 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.04349455 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.04365997 Spanish_Biscay_West
0.04380624 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.04388952 Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Central
0.04477536 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.04489601 Basque_Spain_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.04525151 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)

Target: Francisco_scaled
Distance: 1.8939% / 0.01893946 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.2 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
20.2 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
14.2 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
3.4 South_Amerian_Native

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.0269% / 0.02026881 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.6 South_Amerian_Native
20.0 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
18.6 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
12.4 North_Amerian_Native
8.2 Spain_Islamic
4.2 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean

Distance to: Wife_scaled
0.28742679 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.29261020 North_Amerian_Native
0.29709153 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ__BC_2084 8__Cov_19.72%
0.29759694 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ005__BC_2 0825__Cov_18.81%
0.29947971 Spain_Cueva_del_Malalmuerzo_Solutrean:MLZ003__BC_2 0871__Cov_11.28%
0.31313416 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian:GER002__BC_24197__Cov_2.5 0%
0.32685746 Spain_Medieval:I10897__AD_1122__Cov_9.91%
0.32813088 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.32904299 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III:NEO649__BC_2166__Cov_unknown
0.33031846 Spain_Visigoth:I12162__AD_558__Cov_37.12%
0.33108949 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3775__AD_650__Cov_10.03%
0.33176693 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim:I8146__AD_1400__Cov_ 14.73%
0.33214998 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.33273719 Spain_C_oSteppe:EHU001__BC_2171__Cov_46.55%
0.33354365 Spain_Visigoth:I12163__AD_558__Cov_36.14%
0.33500454 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.33571144 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7424__AD_1550__Cov_46.7 0%
0.33645034 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3575__AD_500__Cov_24.29%
0.33650474 Spain_Zapateria_Argar:ZAP002__BC_1875__Cov_53.57%
0.33682583 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.33693848 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.33736108 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8206__BC_153__Cov_36.20%
0.33755393 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%
0.33779819 Spain_IA_o:I3324__BC_273__Cov_21.13%
0.33800989 Spain_Islamic:I12647__AD_1200__Cov_53.83%

Andullero
09-26-2024, 08:07 PM
It would be worth adding colonial samples, otherwise the calculator looks for random very early equivalents.

Hold that thought:

Adding Erronkari's samples

Distance to: Andullero
0.23024999 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
0.24317018 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.25262184 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.25543180 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
0.25546640 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.25555707 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.25664876 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.25912098 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
0.25941666 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.25942025 Spanish_Asturias_(Asturian)
0.26154215 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.26207254 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.26286751 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.26315382 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.26325362 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.26398859 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.26434866 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
0.26510027 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.26519049 Spanish_Navarre_(Navarrese)
0.26536092 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.26749318 Spanish_Catalonia_Barcelones_(Catalan)
0.26770075 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.26780581 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.26787563 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.26807402 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)

Target: Andullero
Distance: 1.6142% / 0.01614190
32.4 West_African
20.0 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
18.6 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
13.0 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
11.0 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
2.6 South_Amerian_Native
2.4 North_Amerian_Native

axel.aleman
09-26-2024, 08:09 PM
Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 3.5103% / 0.03510290
26.2 West_African
22.6 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
19.0 South_Amerian_Native
12.2 East_Asian
9.8 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
9.0 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
1.2 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)

cass
09-26-2024, 09:55 PM
Two interesting examples



Target: CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.045__AD_1534__Cov_48.78%
Distance: 5.5664% / 0.05566407
88.6 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
9.4 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol :confused:
2.0 Spain_Islamic

Target: Mexico_Colonial_European:I8558__AD_1610__Cov_71.83 %
Distance: 1.3889% / 0.01388883
26.0 Spain_Visigoth
15.4 Spain_Islamic
13.6 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
10.6 Spain_IA
10.0 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
9.0 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
7.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
4.4 Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean
2.8 Spain_Greek_oAegean
0.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
0.2 Spain_C

R1b-L51
09-26-2024, 10:12 PM
Two interesting examples



Target: CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.045__AD_1534__Cov_48.78%
Distance: 5.5664% / 0.05566407
88.6 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
9.4 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol :confused:
2.0 Spain_Islamic

Target: Mexico_Colonial_European:I8558__AD_1610__Cov_71.83 %
Distance: 1.3889% / 0.01388883
26.0 Spain_Visigoth
15.4 Spain_Islamic
13.6 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
10.6 Spain_IA
10.0 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
9.0 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
7.2 Spain_C_oSteppe
4.4 Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean
2.8 Spain_Greek_oAegean
0.8 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
0.2 Spain_C

Why interesting, develop that please

cass
09-26-2024, 10:20 PM
Why interesting, develop that please


There has always been a debate about the origin of the Gauchos. They seem to have a very interesting and rare admixture. In the case of the conquistador, the primary Visigoth draws attention.


Distance to: Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.17245042 Tatar_Kazan
0.17336459 Saami_Kola
0.17457285 Tatar_Mishar
0.17799457 Tatar_Lipka
0.18088971 Komi
0.18185986 Saami
0.18189984 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.18389092 Russian_Pinezhsky
0.18506366 Besermyan
0.18598215 Roma_Bilbao
0.18606712 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.18620740 Russian_Pinega
0.18730744 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.18782783 Finnish_East
0.18786465 Roma_Granada
0.18798925 Roma_Barcelona
0.18813489 Vepsian
0.18831802 Roma_Madrid
0.18838305 Karelian
0.18895373 Erzya
0.19162374 Roma_Porto
0.19202404 Finnish_Southeast
0.19279282 Roma_Balkans
0.19306873 Finnish_North
0.19404820 Udmurt

Target: Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
Distance: 10.8100% / 0.10809958
31.2 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
25.4 Onge
20.0 Latvian
9.4 Saami
4.4 Saami_Kola
3.0 Ngumba
2.2 Ju_hoan_North
1.6 Kosipe
1.4 Malayan
1.0 Surui
0.4 Biaka

Beowulf
09-26-2024, 10:20 PM
Why interesting, develop that please

Gravettian people were basically WHG if i remember well, that would mean that some Guanche samples would somehow manage to get some WHG admixture, but the question would be, how??

cass
09-26-2024, 10:29 PM
Gravettian people were basically WHG if i remember well, that would mean that some Guanche samples would somehow manage to get some WHG admixture, but the question would be, how??

But this one is 27,000 years old

R1b-L51
09-26-2024, 11:49 PM
Don't worry, I have an explanation for your fantasies.

1.
There has always been a debate about the origin of the Gauchos. They seem to have a very interesting and rare admixture. In the case of the conquistador, the primary Visigoth draws attention.


Distance to: Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.17245042 Tatar_Kazan
0.17336459 Saami_Kola
0.17457285 Tatar_Mishar
0.17799457 Tatar_Lipka
0.18088971 Komi
0.18185986 Saami
0.18189984 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.18389092 Russian_Pinezhsky
0.18506366 Besermyan
0.18598215 Roma_Bilbao
0.18606712 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.18620740 Russian_Pinega
0.18730744 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.18782783 Finnish_East
0.18786465 Roma_Granada
0.18798925 Roma_Barcelona
0.18813489 Vepsian
0.18831802 Roma_Madrid
0.18838305 Karelian
0.18895373 Erzya
0.19162374 Roma_Porto
0.19202404 Finnish_Southeast
0.19279282 Roma_Balkans
0.19306873 Finnish_North
0.19404820 Udmurt

Target: Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
Distance: 10.8100% / 0.10809958
31.2 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
25.4 Onge
20.0 Latvian
9.4 Saami
4.4 Saami_Kola
3.0 Ngumba
2.2 Ju_hoan_North
1.6 Kosipe
1.4 Malayan
1.0 Surui
0.4 Biaka

Have you ever heard of the Maragatos or Mauregatos? They are the protogauchos, former Spanish muleteers who, with the arrival of the railway, were forced to emigrate to Patagonia to continue living according to their customs.
Like the Pasiegos and the Gypsies, they are one of the 3 historical races differentiated from Spain.
There were people who said that they came from the Moors, but in reality they are a kind of primitive Europeans, with wide faces and heads and light eyes.
There is a class of muleteers very little known to European travelers: the Maragatos, whose center is located in San Román, near Astorga; they, like the Jews and the Gypsies, live exclusively among their own people, keep their primitive clothes and never marry outside their region. They are as nomadic and wandering as the Bedouins, with the only difference that they drive mules instead of camels; their honesty and their industriousness are proverbial. They are formal, serious, not very expressive, positivist and very commercial people. They charge a lot, but their honesty compensates for this defect, since they can be trusted with ground gold.
The Maragatos, with their simple demeanor and their tanned complexion, go with their pack animals along the road to La Coruña, almost always walking and singing like the other Spanish muleteers and, at the same time, constantly busy throwing stones at the horses and directing insults at them.

The whole tribe meets twice a year in Astorga, at the Corpus Christi and Ascension festivals; then they dance the canizo, which begins at two in the afternoon and ends precisely at three. If anyone who is not a Maragato joins them, they are immediately thrown out. Women hardly ever leave their homes, whereas men spend very little time there. They lead the same working life as the ancient Iberian women, and now, as then, they can be seen working in the fields, from before sunrise until long after sunset, and it is very sad to see them suffering the hardships of such unfeminine occupations.

The origin of the Maragatos is not clear. Some consider them to be a reminiscence of the Celtiberians or Visigoths; the majority, however, consider them to be descendants of a caravan of Bedouins. It is useless to ask them about their history and origin, since, like the gypsies, they lack traditions and know nothing about anything. They are certainly muleteers, and this word, like so many others related to the horse and the trade of a trafficker, is Arabic and shows the origin from which the system and science were derived by the Spanish.

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2.

Gravettian people were basically WHG if i remember well, that would mean that some Guanche samples would somehow manage to get some WHG admixture, but the question would be, how??

Regarding the Guanches, I think it is a recurring theme in this forum. They are proto-Nordic, to the point that they are guilty of the slanted-eyed Paleo-Atlantids of Ireland. The Naftubians are like that, the Zidane are like that, the Kabyles and Amazigh are like that.
For example, Franco loved to recruit proto-Nordic Moors and use them in his personal Moorish guard. So when Hitler came he was shocked (or something like that, he thought he was an Ewok with Chewbacca)

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Canarid:

Description:
Maghrebi type with similarities to Cromagnids and North Europeans - probably in part a result of convergent evolution of pre-Neolithic North Africans adapting to cloudy mountain regions, and partially of prehistoric migrations from Europe. Historically in some areas of the Canary Islands, especially in Gomera, Tenerife (Guanches), and Gran Canaria, heavily mixed on the islands today. Also in Berbers (Riffians, Kabyles), Tunisians, and Western Libya (Giado, Nalut).

Physical Traits:
Fair skin, wavy reddish, brown or blonde hair. Mixed eyes. Tall, mesoskelic, ectomorph to mesomorph. Mesocephalic, chamae- orthocranic, relatively large-headed. Mildly leptorrhine. Face broad, sometimes a bit low, large jaw, significant supraorbital arches, occasional mild prognathy, occiput round. Body hair modest.
Literature:
Named Canarid by Lundman (1943), a Paleo Atlantid subvariety (c.p. Lundman, 1951). Hooton (1925) defined it as the Guanche type, Coon (1939) as part of Brünn, Eickstedt (1934) part of Dalic. Peters (1940), Fischer (1943) and Schwidetzky (1963) as Cromagnid, Briggs (1955) as Type D. Heberer et al. (1969) and Knussmann (1996) later united it with Berberid. Michalski's (1964) Riffian is similar. Genetically, Guanches and Berbers are linked (Pino-Yanes et al. 2011).

R1b-L51
09-27-2024, 12:00 AM
There has always been a debate about the origin of the Gauchos. They seem to have a very interesting and rare admixture. In the case of the conquistador, the primary Visigoth draws attention.


Distance to: Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
0.17245042 Tatar_Kazan
0.17336459 Saami_Kola
0.17457285 Tatar_Mishar
0.17799457 Tatar_Lipka
0.18088971 Komi
0.18185986 Saami
0.18189984 Russian_Leshukonsky
0.18389092 Russian_Pinezhsky
0.18506366 Besermyan
0.18598215 Roma_Bilbao
0.18606712 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.18620740 Russian_Pinega
0.18730744 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.18782783 Finnish_East
0.18786465 Roma_Granada
0.18798925 Roma_Barcelona
0.18813489 Vepsian
0.18831802 Roma_Madrid
0.18838305 Karelian
0.18895373 Erzya
0.19162374 Roma_Porto
0.19202404 Finnish_Southeast
0.19279282 Roma_Balkans
0.19306873 Finnish_North
0.19404820 Udmurt

Target: Spain_Gravettian_Fournol:GER003__BC_25249__Cov_15. 91%
Distance: 10.8100% / 0.10809958
31.2 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
25.4 Onge
20.0 Latvian
9.4 Saami
4.4 Saami_Kola
3.0 Ngumba
2.2 Ju_hoan_North
1.6 Kosipe
1.4 Malayan
1.0 Surui
0.4 Biaka

The term maragato (perhaps from the Latin *mauricatus 'Moorish' or 'Moor-speaking'; cf. Navarrese romance Bascongado, from the Latin *uasconicatus, and romançado, from the Latin *romaniceatus) refers to inhabitants of the province of León, Spain, which has given its name to the region of Maragatería.

Until the beginning of the 20th century, the Maragatos were characterized by wearing clothing that was typical of them, practicing the covada and, being an enterprising and traveling population, traveling with wagons through the west and center of Spain, selling mainly handicraft products that they made in their region, especially in towns such as Astorga, Brazuelo, Castrillo de los Polvazares, Lucillo, Santa Colomba de Somoza, Santiago Millas and Val de San Lorenzo.

There have been several hypotheses put forward about the origin of the term maragato: one of them suggests that their name (which comes from the sum of the terms 'Moor' and 'Goth') comes from their Germanic ancestry, since they were barbarians who converted to Islam after the Islamisation of Spain and adopted the peculiar clothing that characterises them. Another indicates that their name comes from a characteristic garment of this group, the maragas.

The Maragatos were pioneer settlers of the colonial settlements of Atlantic Patagonia during the 18th century, founding the Argentine towns of Carmen de Patagones, Mercedes de Patagones (now Viedma), Puerto San Julián and Puerto Deseado.

From this last town, other groups of Maragatos went to the Banda Oriental, founding there the city of San José de Mayo (Department of San José), in the current territory of Uruguay. For this reason, the inhabitants of San José de Mayo and its surroundings, as well as those of Carmen de Patagones, are often called "Maragatos". From San José de Mayo, many European Maragatos, already transformed into gauchos, colonized other areas of the territory of the Banda Oriental, including territories of the current Rio Grande do Sul. This explains why the Rio Grande federalist revolution of 1893 was called in Brazil "Revolution of the Maragatos".


https://uruguay.fandom.com/es/wiki/Maragato

Fabricius
09-27-2024, 05:22 AM
Extending the subject from Spain to Portugal, I did not know until today a sample for the Suevi.
I found this, but I don't know if it's reliable:

Suebi_scaled:LIB2,0.128619646,0.145220706,0.071652 999,0.063308,0.045855271,0.025948272,0.005875,0.00 5305949,-0.001022997,-0.005648918,-0.009739,0.002548504,-0.006690145,-0.008119582,0.013164719,0,-0.001042889,-0.00367458,-0.0086713,0.016127135,0.006862389,0.006925286,-0.000123263,0.016870798,-0.010638263

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=343&pid=5860#pid5860


David used to have LIB2 in G25 some years ago, since it was the only Suebi sample available, and because the Suebi settled here in NW Iberia, I copied the original coordinates back then.

Fabricius
09-27-2024, 05:37 AM
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.8904% / 0.02890361 | ADC: 0.5x
46.8 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
26.2 Spain_Roman_oMixed
17.4 Spain_Visigoth
8.6 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval
0.8 Spain_Serinya_Gravettian
0.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.4250% / 0.02424970 | ADC: 0.25x
40.0 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
24.4 Spain_Visigoth
15.8 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
10.6 Spain_Roman_oMixed
3.2 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol
3.0 Suebi_scaled
2.8 Spain_IA_o
0.2 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.2943% / 0.02294276
34.0 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
17.8 Spain_Visigoth
16.6 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
14.6 Suebi_scaled
6.0 Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
5.2 Spain_IA_o
4.0 Spain_Gravettian_Fournol
1.8 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III


Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.04365187 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I10866__AD_3__Cov_69.41%
0.04574974 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.04758780 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04979280 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.05203112 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.05284083 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.05326532 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.05402160 Spain_Islamic:I12644__AD_1200__Cov_47.72%
0.05512557 Spain_Islamic_Almohade:I7457__AD_1200__Cov_42.48%
0.05667749 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%

Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
[with moderne samples]
0.04085285 Spanish_Canarias_(Canarian)
0.04365187 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I10866__AD_3__Cov_69.41%
0.04574974 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim:I7425__AD_1550__Cov_61.6 4%
0.04728541 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.04758780 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04979280 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.05203112 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3582__AD_500__Cov_28.41%
0.05221439 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.05284083 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.05326532 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%

Gallop
09-27-2024, 08:09 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.1424% / 0.01142362
21.0 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
16.4 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
10.0 Spain_C_oSteppe
9.8 Spain_LIA
9.6 Spain_Roman_oMixed
8.2 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
8.0 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier De totes totes! ;)
7.2 Spain_Visigoth
3.8 Spain_BA.SG
3.2 Spain_Medieval
2.4 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
0.2 Spain_La Braña
0.2 Spain_LIA_low_res

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.2165% / 0.01216498
24.2 Spain_Visigoth
15.0 Spain_LIA
13.6 Spain_IA
10.2 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
9.4 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
9.2 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
8.8 Spain_LIA_low_res
5.2 Spain_Islamic
2.4 Spain_C_oSteppe
2.0 Spain_Roman_oMixed

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 0.9481% / 0.00948079
16.2 Spain_LIA_low_res
14.8 Spain_Roman_oMixed
11.2 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
10.2 Spain_Visigoth
9.6 Spain_NazariPeriod_LateMuslim
9.2 Spain_Islamic
6.4 Spain_Roman_oLocal
5.8 Spain_Almoloya_Argar_Early
5.6 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
3.8 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier
3.4 Spain_BA.SG
1.6 Spain_LBA_low_res
1.2 Spain_Hellenistic_oMixed
1.0 Spain_Visigoth_Granada


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.8565% / 0.01856498 | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
33.0 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)
9.8 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4701% / 0.02470081 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 2.0680% / 0.02067973 | ADC: 1x RC
38.6 Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_(Castilian)
32.8 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
28.6 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)



Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.02299135 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.02889821 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.02906135 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.02940123 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.02995669 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.03154630 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03359998 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.03395404 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.03474927 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.03489974 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%
0.03516609 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03533913 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.03547047 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%
0.03765036 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03913302 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo057__AD_610 __Cov_74.03%
0.03922287 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo060__AD_828 __Cov_82.05%
0.04001435 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.04036027 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo263__AD_828 __Cov_94.61%
0.04073729 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.04080328 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal:I8203__BC_200__Cov_45.21%
0.04083524 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo254__AD_828 __Cov_80.55%
0.04101199 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo257__AD_828 __Cov_61.27%
0.04118783 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo048__AD_828 __Cov_90.53%
0.04140345 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%
0.04157204 Spain_Navarra_EIA:CRU013_ss.A0101__BC_600__Cov_52. 91%

cass
09-27-2024, 09:07 AM
The term maragato (perhaps from the Latin *mauricatus 'Moorish' or 'Moor-speaking'; cf. Navarrese romance Bascongado, from the Latin *uasconicatus, and romançado, from the Latin *romaniceatus) refers to inhabitants of the province of León, Spain, which has given its name to the region of Maragatería.

Until the beginning of the 20th century, the Maragatos were characterized by wearing clothing that was typical of them, practicing the covada and, being an enterprising and traveling population, traveling with wagons through the west and center of Spain, selling mainly handicraft products that they made in their region, especially in towns such as Astorga, Brazuelo, Castrillo de los Polvazares, Lucillo, Santa Colomba de Somoza, Santiago Millas and Val de San Lorenzo.

There have been several hypotheses put forward about the origin of the term maragato: one of them suggests that their name (which comes from the sum of the terms 'Moor' and 'Goth') comes from their Germanic ancestry, since they were barbarians who converted to Islam after the Islamisation of Spain and adopted the peculiar clothing that characterises them. Another indicates that their name comes from a characteristic garment of this group, the maragas.

The Maragatos were pioneer settlers of the colonial settlements of Atlantic Patagonia during the 18th century, founding the Argentine towns of Carmen de Patagones, Mercedes de Patagones (now Viedma), Puerto San Julián and Puerto Deseado.

From this last town, other groups of Maragatos went to the Banda Oriental, founding there the city of San José de Mayo (Department of San José), in the current territory of Uruguay. For this reason, the inhabitants of San José de Mayo and its surroundings, as well as those of Carmen de Patagones, are often called "Maragatos". From San José de Mayo, many European Maragatos, already transformed into gauchos, colonized other areas of the territory of the Banda Oriental, including territories of the current Rio Grande do Sul. This explains why the Rio Grande federalist revolution of 1893 was called in Brazil "Revolution of the Maragatos".


https://uruguay.fandom.com/es/wiki/Maragato


How would you model them?



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CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.017__AD_404__Cov_98.51%,-0.015935,0.138112,0.003394,-0.062985,0.036007,-0.034582,-0.021856,0.012461,0.066675,0.031891,0.002273,-0.003597,0.020069,-0.018304,0.021172,-0.008486,0.007953,-0.020777,-0.032933,0.015507,-0.006863,-0.027575,0.023047,0.001687,-0.003113
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CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun012_noUDG.SG__AD_626__ Cov_27.87%,-0.061464,0.133034,-0.000754,-0.074936,0.027697,-0.038487,-0.033136,0.002538,0.074856,0.028247,0.013316,-0.007943,0.01115,-0.021607,0.026737,-0.014054,0.015907,-0.015456,-0.055936,0.012381,-0.009982,-0.037096,0.024526,-0.006145,0.013771
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CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun011_noUDG.SG__AD_813__ Cov_91.59%,-0.044391,0.138112,-0.011691,-0.063954,0.02739,-0.034304,-0.034547,0.011769,0.069538,0.025513,0.010718,-0.009142,0.024826,-0.010872,0.026601,-0.020286,-0.009518,-0.013936,-0.055181,0.005878,-0.019091,-0.046741,0.026745,-0.006266,0.007065
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CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun008_noUDG.SG__AD_936__ Cov_18.38%,-0.023903,0.146236,-0.001508,-0.068476,0.043393,-0.038487,-0.035017,0.007384,0.062789,0.035718,0.006658,-0.001798,0.010555,-0.016515,0.023615,-0.027976,-0.015125,-0.016089,-0.044623,0.005253,-0.015473,-0.030419,0.013804,0.001084,-0.005389
CanaryIslands_Guanche.SG:gun005_noUDG.SG__AD_958__ Cov_25.55%,-0.01935,0.122879,0.00264,-0.05491,0.047086,-0.0251,-0.037602,0.013384,0.064425,0.025513,0.004222,-0.009741,0.013974,-0.018854,0.016422,0.00716,0.02047,-0.015583,-0.03419,0.017008,-0.0141,-0.027575,0.020336,-0.008555,-0.00479
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CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.005__AD_1330__Cov_97.20% ,-0.021626,0.137096,-0.001131,-0.066538,0.037853,-0.026774,-0.021621,0.011538,0.07322,0.03262,0.006983,-0.004196,0.020069,-0.015689,0.016965,-0.02201,-0.009648,-0.020524,-0.036704,0.005378,-0.016097,-0.034252,0.017748,-0.011447,0.012813
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CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.004__AD_1344__Cov_65.29% ,-0.060326,0.137096,-0.004525,-0.076228,0.03416,-0.032072,-0.024911,0.011769,0.064834,0.025149,0.005684,-0.00015,0.028692,-0.021607,0.025787,-0.016706,-0.010691,-0.015583,-0.044749,0.001876,-0.020963,-0.037838,0.02428,-0.001807,0.008981
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CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.042__AD_1383__Cov_95.11% ,-0.046667,0.135065,-0.005657,-0.083334,0.028005,-0.033746,-0.030316,0.005538,0.075674,0.026789,0.005846,-0.013788,0.01115,-0.024497,0.022665,-0.001061,0.004563,-0.022804,-0.044623,0.000375,-0.01697,-0.042784,0.026745,-0.009399,0.005748
CanaryIslands_Guanche:CAN.002__AD_1385__Cov_29.84% ,-0.044391,0.131003,0.004903,-0.078166,0.023697,-0.037929,-0.027261,0.010846,0.071583,0.033896,0.006658,-0.004646,0.020367,-0.010735,0.020222,-0.023468,-0.011865,-0.017103,-0.039092,0.004752,-0.015722,-0.038456,0.019103,-0.001687,0.006586
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R1b-L51
09-27-2024, 12:30 PM
How would you model them?


I was talking about the Visigothism of the gauchos/maragatos, not the guanches

R1b-L51
09-27-2024, 02:37 PM
Extending the subject from Spain to Portugal, I did not know until today a sample for the Suevi.
I found this, but I don't know if it's reliable:

Suebi_scaled:LIB2,0.128619646,0.145220706,0.071652 999,0.063308,0.045855271,0.025948272,0.005875,0.00 5305949,-0.001022997,-0.005648918,-0.009739,0.002548504,-0.006690145,-0.008119582,0.013164719,0,-0.001042889,-0.00367458,-0.0086713,0.016127135,0.006862389,0.006925286,-0.000123263,0.016870798,-0.010638263

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=343&pid=5860#pid5860

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.02787237 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03113429 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.03291640 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03301196 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.03328633 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.03431405 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.03437888 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03495819 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.03511992 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.03726269 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03794528 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.03929378 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.03929597 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.03998953 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.04064655 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04142326 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.04173060 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%
0.04199875 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.04210538 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.04367107 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04484630 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo059__AD_828 __Cov_37.85%
0.04484758 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.04490233 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%
0.04522590 Spain_Visigoth_Barcelona:I3777__AD_650__Cov_28.31%
0.04624092 Spain_Medieval:I10852__AD_1042__Cov_26.45%

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.5305% / 0.01530470
32.4 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
29.8 Spain_Islamic_Zira
13.0 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
10.0 Spain_Islamic
7.0 Suebi_scaled
6.2 Spain_Islamic_Almohade
1.6 Spain_Carolingian

I have added your sample to the donor tissue, and the results have changed a lot, although I am still Almohad a part has gone to Zira's Iberomaur, the Visigoth has changed me to Suebi... and my GOBAS score has gone up...Spain Carolingian=Catalan?

That is why these calculators always raise suspicions of not being very accurate.

R1b-L51
09-27-2024, 02:49 PM
Advanced age and hair loss is typical of amphoras. With a good diet, Argentines would live as long as the Spanish, but I don't know if that culinary culture is as deep-rooted. I cook every day.

Fabricius
09-28-2024, 03:59 AM
(...) That is why these calculators always raise suspicions of not being very accurate.

Yes, I feel that too.

I like these TA games, though. Also, I like the distances of the G25 Vahaduo calculator, but how it defines the percentages is a mystery. I believe that we score when a population is close enough to us to be related but too far away to be not confused with other populations (although this does not always occur, and I believe that many Brazilians score "northern Italy" for their similarity to the Iberians).

But a defect, according to what I believe, of these G25 calculators is to seek a "synthesis" or a "middle way" of what is not normally very close.
For example, of the many times I score something from the Balkans, I believe it is confusion between my Balto-Slavic component and my Medterranean component -- it is likely that I have something Balkan via Ashkenazi, but it would be little --; if I put something from France, I will score it, which makes no sense, except as a confusion between Germanic and Mediterranean; this is more evident when I score percentage of Afrikaner DNA, which I can only understand as being Dutch(deutsch?) + SSA.

Fabricius
09-28-2024, 04:06 AM
I think that up to the present moment we need to be content more with broad regional results than waiting for precision with very specific populations, even if we have thousands of samples.
That is why the results of Columbus (the subject of another thread) can end up in the subjectivity of the analyst, if one wants to know something more precise than that he is Mediterranean and perhaps Jewish.

R1b-L51
09-28-2024, 06:39 PM
I think that up to the present moment we need to be content more with broad regional results than waiting for precision with very specific populations, even if we have thousands of samples.
That is why the results of Columbus (the subject of another thread) can end up in the subjectivity of the analyst, if one wants to know something more precise than that he is Mediterranean and perhaps Jewish.


They would simply need to add all the populations of the world to have some semblance of verisimilitude, I think some users have tried it at some point (the problem is that most do not know exactly what era of humanity each sample belongs to, and that can generate some result even crazier)

Damião de Góis
09-29-2024, 03:12 PM
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.2255% / 0.01225480
23.6 Spain_Visigoth_Granada
20.4 Spain_NazariPeriod_Muslim
19.0 Spain_BA_El_Toral_III
9.6 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval
9.4 Spain_Hellenistic_oLocal
9.2 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier
4.6 Spain_Visigoth
4.0 Spain_Aritgues_LBA
0.2 Spain_EBA_Mallorca

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02971188 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo039__AD_641 __Cov_99.14%
0.03175507 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo055__AD_828 __Cov_76.41%
0.03192676 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo054__AD_828 __Cov_95.44%
0.03201943 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo046__AD_828 __Cov_85.23%
0.03272748 Spain_Medieval:I10892__AD_1000__Cov_47.51%
0.03279331 Spain_Medieval:I10895__AD_912__Cov_53.79%
0.03620263 Spain_Carolingian:I7673__AD_797__Cov_25.85%
0.03748035 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo038__AD_828 __Cov_90.69%
0.03795413 Spain_Islamic:I12514__AD_1096__Cov_43.70%
0.03879396 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo160__AD_828 __Cov_65.03%
0.03906499 Spain_Islamic_Zira:I7498__AD_1050__Cov_63.60%
0.03941614 Spain_Roman_oMixed:I8475__AD_150__Cov_47.83%
0.04003583 Spain_Visigoth_Granada:I3585__AD_755__Cov_62.70%
0.04108617 Spain_Barcelona_ReapersWar_Soldier:F1691_1810__AD_ 1652__Cov_11.96%
0.04115251 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo040__AD_828 __Cov_52.68%
0.04138351 Spain_Islamic:I12515__AD_1200__Cov_50.03%
0.04184642 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo264__AD_907 __Cov_90.51%
0.04220797 Spain_Medieval:I10853__AD_1074__Cov_21.21%
0.04245264 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo052__AD_828 __Cov_51.23%
0.04273761 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo057__AD_610 __Cov_74.03%
0.04324563 Spain_Barcelona_L'Esquerda_Medieval:T-145-2__AD_1350__Cov_97.35%
0.04344175 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo050__AD_829 __Cov_87.33%
0.04430047 Spain_Burgos_LasGobas_EarlyMedieval:ldo045__AD_828 __Cov_25.80%
0.04501014 Spain_SantiagoDeCompostela_TheodemirOfIria_EarlyMe dieval:NCS200__AD_746__Cov_85.41%
0.04522688 Spain_Islamic:I12649__AD_1200__Cov_11.96%



Extending the subject from Spain to Portugal, I did not know until today a sample for the Suevi.
I found this, but I don't know if it's reliable:

Suebi_scaled:LIB2,0.128619646,0.145220706,0.071652 999,0.063308,0.045855271,0.025948272,0.005875,0.00 5305949,-0.001022997,-0.005648918,-0.009739,0.002548504,-0.006690145,-0.008119582,0.013164719,0,-0.001042889,-0.00367458,-0.0086713,0.016127135,0.006862389,0.006925286,-0.000123263,0.016870798,-0.010638263

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=343&pid=5860#pid5860

I don't think it's real, we will have to wait for the Merida samples. They could be suebi, possibly.

Aboubakar
09-29-2024, 03:20 PM
proud to be part of Spanish history

Gallop
09-29-2024, 04:34 PM
proud to be part of Spanish history

You are a modern Moor, don't get confused, you are not part of the history of Spain.

Aboubakar
09-29-2024, 05:15 PM
You are a modern Moor, don't get confused, you are not part of the history of Spain.

Whats the diference?

Gallop
09-29-2024, 07:27 PM
Whats the diference?

The difference is modern populations relative to modern populations, and it has been said millions of times since genetics began that modern populations are not to be confused with ancient populations. If there is no learning, I don't know what the hell we are doing here repeating like parrots and believing like beyacos everything we believed before all this genetics stuff started.

R1b-L51
09-29-2024, 09:35 PM
proud to be part of Spanish history

In part, yes, you are. The Berber Moors even came to Galicia, and they were good farmers. I understand that what Gallop is referring to is that the Berber Moors were not Arabs, and that is true. They were a kind of Guanches or the so-called white Africa. But in principle you are Berber or kabyle/ Amazigh, therefore you are part of the ancient Roman Hispania.

Gallop
09-29-2024, 10:22 PM
Do not confuse ancient populations with modern populations.

Rafael Passoni
09-30-2024, 12:41 AM
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 4.2416% / 0.04241642
52.2 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
18.4 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
15.6 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
12.0 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
1.8 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)


Distance to: me_scaled
0.04302486 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.04402251 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.04578512 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.04630778 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.04756154 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
0.04866399 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.04924293 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.04933458 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.04977179 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.04982331 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.05146070 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.05178875 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.05193842 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.05201913 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.05209805 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.05231244 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.05237790 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.05267531 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.05267552 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.05337466 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.05354827 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.05435651 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.05481044 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.05502276 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.05507301 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)

Fabricius
09-30-2024, 01:06 AM
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 4.2416% / 0.04241642
52.2 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
18.4 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
15.6 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
12.0 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
1.8 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)


Distance to: me_scaled
0.04302486 Spanish_Baleares_Menorca_(Catalan)
0.04402251 Spanish_Baleares_(Catalan)
0.04578512 Spanish_Baleares_Mallorca_(Catalan)
0.04630778 Spanish_Baleares_Ibiza_(Catalan)
0.04756154 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcia)
0.04866399 Spanish_Catalonia_Terres_de_l'Ebre_(Catalan)
0.04924293 Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha_(Castilian)
0.04933458 Spanish_Canarias_Tenerife_(Canarian)
0.04977179 Spanish_Catalonia_Peri-Barcelona_(Catalan)
0.04982331 Spanish_Catalonia_Girona_(Catalan)
0.05146070 Spanish_Murcia_(Murcian)
0.05178875 Spanish_Catalonia_Lleida_(Catalan)
0.05193842 Spanish_Catalonia_Penedes_(Catalan)
0.05201913 Spanish_Andalusia_(Andalusian)
0.05209805 Spanish_Extremadura_(Extremaduran)
0.05231244 Spanish_Catalonia_Central_(Catalan)
0.05237790 Spanish_Catalonia_Camp_de_Tarragona_(Catalan)
0.05267531 Spanish_Valencia_(Valencian)
0.05267552 Spanish_Valencia_Alicante_(Valencian)
0.05337466 Spanish_Valencia_Castellon_(Valencian)
0.05354827 Spanish_Aragon_(Aragonese)
0.05435651 Spanish_Catalonia_Pirineu_(Catalan)
0.05481044 Spanish_Galicia_(Galician)
0.05502276 Spanish_Catalonia_(Catalan)
0.05507301 Spanish_Cantabria_(Cantabrian)


Didn't you want to use the old samples? (Visigoths, etc.) Or just didn't see?