Ancient HG K14:East vs West (UNscaled) -- A modern modeling attempt via Ancient HG

[ScandinavianCelt]

Use UNscaled coordinates or it won't work.

Please do step 1, if not 2 & 3 also.

1. Post NO ADC and 1x ADC
2. Find your closest distance matches to your results at 1x (or NO ADC if you prefer)
3. List those matches with the percentages you got in step 1 with 1x ADC for your Modern Modeling via Ancient HG


Source:

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Step 1 Target: Your own UNscaled coordinates.

Mine:

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_UNscaled
Distance: 4.0482% / 0.04048207
42.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
20.2 Russia_Karelia_HG
20.0 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
17.6 Georgia_Kotias.SG

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_UNscaled
Distance: 4.7841% / 0.04784148 | ADC: 1x RC
34.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
33.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
32.2 Russia_Sunghir1.SG



Step 2:

Find your closest matches to your 1x result above using these additional samples as Target:

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Example of my closest two matches to Turkey % I get:

https://i.postimg.cc/Hnc5kVRj/pasdecalais.jpg (https://postimg.cc/hQnhCPSq)

After running the MULTI function with above samples included in Target, plot yourself to your closest distances. Mine ends up at 1x like this:

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_UNscaled
Distance: 4.7841% / 0.04784148 | ADC: 1x RC
34.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic (Pas-de-Calais 33.2 - Finnish_East 37)
33.6 Russia_MA1_HG.SG (Hungarian 33.8 - Erlangen 33)
32.2 Russia_Sunghir1.SG (Afrikaner 30.2 - Corsica 44.2)

So, my modern modeling-correlation based on Ancient HG results is this:

34.2% French_Pas-de-Calais - Finnish_East
33.6% Hungarian - Erlangen
32.2% Afrikaner - Corsica



Hope it works out reasonably well for you also.

Have a good day.

[ScandinavianCelt]

How HG plot, my sample included:

https://i.postimg.cc/mrb4vSLj/hg-plot.jpg (https://postimg.cc/sM0bS7ZG)

[Athalafuns]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.3660% / 0.03365971
52.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
13.6 Russia_Karelia_HG
12.8 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
12.6 Georgia_Kotias.SG
8.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: RNB27
Distance: 4.3013% / 0.04301300 | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
42.8 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

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57.2 Basque_Araba - Roma_Barcelona
42.8 Danish - Slovenian

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.3108% / 0.01310806
56.0 Basque_Araba
32.4 Roma_Barcelona
11.6 Danish


I hope I did well.

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Unscaled
Distance: 0.0323% / 0.03227565
55.5 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
16.3 Russia_Karelia_HG
14.3 Georgia_Kotias.SG
11.1 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
2.8 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: Beowulf_Unscaled
Distance: 0.0445% / 0.04452280 | ADC: 1x RC
54.5 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
45.5 Turkey_Epipaleolithic


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Target
Distance
Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest

Greek_Cyclades_Kea

Latvian

Roma_Balkans

Saami

Sardinian



Russia_Sunghir1.SG
0.05160572
•

41.1
0.0
10.3
22.0
26.6
0.0


Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.03916019
•

0.0
8.4
0.0
0.0
0.0
91.6


Average
0.04538296
•

20.5
4.2
5.1
11.0
13.3
45.8

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[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.3660% / 0.03365971
52.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
13.6 Russia_Karelia_HG
12.8 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
12.6 Georgia_Kotias.SG
8.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: RNB27
Distance: 4.3013% / 0.04301300 | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
42.8 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

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57.2 Basque_Araba - Roma_Barcelona
42.8 Danish - Slovenian

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.3108% / 0.01310806
56.0 Basque_Araba
32.4 Roma_Barcelona
11.6 Danish


I hope I did well.

Looks good!

I inadvertently discovered perhaps the origins of the Basques....

https://i.postimg.cc/02ZW47NG/gora.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1fnrnnw4)

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Beowulf_Unscaled
Distance: 0.0323% / 0.03227565
55.5 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
16.3 Russia_Karelia_HG
14.3 Georgia_Kotias.SG
11.1 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
2.8 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: Beowulf_Unscaled
Distance: 0.0445% / 0.04452280 | ADC: 1x RC
54.5 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
45.5 Turkey_Epipaleolithic


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Target
Distance
Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest

Greek_Cyclades_Kea

Latvian

Roma_Balkans

Saami

Sardinian



Russia_Sunghir1.SG
0.05160572
•

41.1
0.0
10.3
22.0
26.6
0.0


Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.03916019
•

0.0
8.4
0.0
0.0
0.0
91.6


Average
0.04538296
•

20.5
4.2
5.1
11.0
13.3
45.8

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Your Turkey plots out Cataluna/Shetlandic 45.4 and Soule/Cataluya-Central/Terres-de-l'Ebre 45.6
Your Sunghir1 plots out between Cataluna 54.6 and Soule/Cataluya-Central/Terrest-de-l'Ebrew 54.4

So you would be some combination of those in your 54.5/45.5 result below:

Target: Beowulf_Unscaled
Distance: 0.0445% / 0.04452280 | ADC: 1x RC
54.5 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
45.5 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo(MyHeritage)
Distance: 3.6254% / 0.03625379
51.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
10.6 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
10.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
9.8 Georgia_Kotias.SG
9.6 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
8.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: gixajo(23andMe)
Distance: 3.7555% / 0.03755498
49.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
14.8 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
11.6 Russia_Karelia_HG
10.6 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
8.4 Georgia_Kotias.SG
5.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

And exact matches with every set of coordinates using 1X results:

Left:Russia Shungir Right: Turkey Epipaleolithic

https://i.imgur.com/GRztA3E.png

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop
Distance: 3.4075% / 0.03407499
49.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
19.4 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
15.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
13.0 Georgia_Kotias.SG
2.8 Russia_Karelia_HG

Target: Gallop
Distance: 4.1648% / 0.04164784 | ADC: 1x RC
58.4 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
41.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

Target: Gallop
Distance: 1.1711% / 0.01171121 | ADC: 1x RC
33.0 Basque_Navarre_Center
32.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
31.0 Spanish_Menorca
4.0 French_South

[Gallop]

Target: Father
Distance: 3.1568% / 0.03156777
52.4 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
21.2 Russia_Karelia_HG
14.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
12.0 Georgia_Kotias.SG

Target: Father
Distance: 4.0752% / 0.04075250 | ADC: 1x RC
54.8 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
45.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

Target: Father
Distance: 1.3934% / 0.01393387 | ADC: 1x RC
33.2 Spanish_Menorca
27.4 Spanish_Cantabria
20.6 Spanish_Extremadura
18.8 Spanish_Pirineu

[Gallop]

Target: brother
Distance: 3.2987% / 0.03298652
52.4 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
16.8 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
14.0 Russia_Karelia_HG
10.0 Georgia_Kotias.SG
3.4 Russia_MA1_HG.SG
3.4 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG

Target: brother
Distance: 3.9527% / 0.03952675 | ADC: 1x RC
54.8 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
45.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

Target: brother
Distance: 1.4472% / 0.01447201 | ADC: 1x RC
74.2 Spanish_Cantabria
25.8 Spanish_Canarias

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Gallop
Distance: 3.4075% / 0.03407499
49.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
19.4 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
15.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
13.0 Georgia_Kotias.SG
2.8 Russia_Karelia_HG

Target: Gallop
Distance: 4.1648% / 0.04164784 | ADC: 1x RC
58.4 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
41.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic


So, Gallop, you would get at 1x:

58.4% Roma Porto (58.2) & Occitanie (59)
41.6% Roma Porto (41.8) & Irish (41.2)

Your deviation from Roma Porto is minimal, so with this modeling you are almost completely Roma Porto.

The Roma-Porto sample 2-way is 69% Thessaly + 31% Yadava, as top 2-way model.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: gixajo(MyHeritage)
Distance: 3.6254% / 0.03625379
51.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
10.6 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
10.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
9.8 Georgia_Kotias.SG
9.6 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
8.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: gixajo(23andMe)
Distance: 3.7555% / 0.03755498
49.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
14.8 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
11.6 Russia_Karelia_HG
10.6 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
8.4 Georgia_Kotias.SG
5.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

And exact matches with every set of coordinates using 1X results:

Left:Russia Shungir Right: Turkey Epipaleolithic

https://i.imgur.com/GRztA3E.png

What are your percentages of Sunghir & Turkey at 1x?

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.3660% / 0.03365971
52.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic
13.6 Russia_Karelia_HG
12.8 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG
12.6 Georgia_Kotias.SG
8.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

Target: RNB27
Distance: 4.3013% / 0.04301300 | ADC: 1x RC
57.2 Russia_Sunghir1.SG
42.8 Turkey_Epipaleolithic

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57.2 Basque_Araba - Roma_Barcelona
42.8 Danish - Slovenian

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.3108% / 0.01310806
56.0 Basque_Araba
32.4 Roma_Barcelona
11.6 Danish


I hope I did well.

Can you break down your NO ADC result/fit?

Mine is this:

Target: SC_Official_Averaged_UNscaled
Distance: 4.0482% / 0.04048207
42.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic -- Danish (42.2)
20.2 Russia_Karelia_HG -- Spanish Terres-de-l'Ebre(20.2)/Spanish Castilla-La-Mancha(20.2)
20.0 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG -- Icelandic (20)
17.6 Georgia_Kotias.SG -- Greek Argolis (17.6)

I like both no ADC and 1x.

[gixajo]

What are your percentages of Sunghir & Turkey at 1x?

Those that you can see in the image.

59% Shungir 41% turkey Epip. with 23andMe raw data coordinates.

56.6% Shungir 43.4 %Turkey Epip. with MH raw data coordinates.

Ah, ok, I see I haven´t done the last step...sorry.

[Athalafuns]

Can you break down your NO ADC result/fit?
Target: RNB27
Distance: 3.3660% / 0.03365971
52.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic -- Spanish_Valencia(52.6)/Portuguese(52.6)
13.6 Russia_Karelia_HG -- Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o(13.6)/Spanish_Girona(13.2)
12.8 Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG -- Spanish_Burgos(13)/Dutch(12.2)
12.6 Georgia_Kotias.SG -- French_Occitanie(12.6)/Spanish_Eivissa(12.8)
8.4 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1 -- Spanish_Catalunya_Central(8.2)/Spanish_Asturias(8.8)

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Target: RNB27
Distance: 0.9717% / 0.00971717
54.8 Spanish_Girona
37.2 Portuguese
5.2 Dutch
2.4 Spanish_Burgos
0.4 Spanish_Catalunya_Central

Distance to: RNB27
0.01049330 Spanish_Girona
0.01125473 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.01173647 Portuguese
0.01282422 Spanish_Valencia
0.01291989 Spanish_Eivissa
0.01445855 French_Occitanie
0.01509628 Spanish_Burgos
0.02400354 Spanish_Asturias
0.02991374 Dutch
0.03295467 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr_o

[cass]

Target: cass_unscaled
Distance: 3.6749% / 0.03674894
41.2 Turkey_Epipaleolithic Russian_Belgorod Swedish
40.4 Russia_Karelia_HG German_East Ukrainian_Lviv
14.2 Georgia_Kotias.SG Polish BelgianC
4.2 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1 French_Occitanie Spanish_Peri-Barcelona

[Gallop]

So, Gallop, you would get at 1x:

58.4% Roma Porto (58.2) & Occitanie (59)
41.6% Roma Porto (41.8) & Irish (41.2)

Your deviation from Roma Porto is minimal, so with this modeling you are almost completely Roma Porto.

The Roma-Porto sample 2-way is 69% Thessaly + 31% Yadava, as top 2-way model.

Thanks!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-rWTkmEzRw

What do my father and brother get?