A few questions about genetic distance between peoples

[Valenman]

I have a few questions about a few nations
First-Are Corsegans genetically closer to Greeks or Swiss?
Second-Who is closer genetically, Spaniards and Swedes or Armenians and Chechens?
Third-Are the Irish genetically closer to Spaniards or Ukrainians?
I hope you can help me

[R1b-L51]

I have a few questions about a few nations
First-Are Corsegans genetically closer to Greeks or Swiss?
Second-Who is closer genetically, Spaniards and Swedes or Armenians and Chechens?
Third-Are the Irish genetically closer to Spaniards or Ukrainians?
I hope you can help me

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I can only help you with the first question, if you mean the Corsicans as a mix between markers of populations with haplogroup R, Ia2 and E. Surely the Corsicans are genetically quite close to the Greeks in terms of E+Ia2, but at the same time quite far away in terms of their R markers, specific to Italy... for this reason it would perhaps be easier to ask that about the Sicilians.

Here are some examples of mixtures so you can see how dark coloring occurs better among Sicilians and Greeks than between Corsicans and Greeks.

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Especially as far as neolithic farmer is concerned:
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[Gallop]

The genetic distance between populations is given by the autosomal DNA, if it were given by the haplogroup "some" friends wrongly called Latinos would not have to eliminate from their results the indigenous part e.t.c. to obtain complete European and Spanish coordinates.

Although I understand the obsession of some people with haplogroup, especially if they are already of non-European ethnicity, it must be very important to them and it is easy for them to go into catharsis. ;)

[R1b-L51]

The genetic distance between populations is given by the autosomal DNA, if it were given by the haplogroup "some" friends wrongly called Latinos would not have to eliminate from their results the indigenous part e.t.c. to obtain complete European and Spanish coordinates.

Although I understand the obsession of some people with haplogroup, especially if they are already of non-European ethnicity, it must be very important to them and it is easy for them to go into catharsis. ;)

Nobody has talked about haplogroups here, just about markers associated with the paternal haplogroups of migrations.

The only suspect of not being Spanish here is you, especially in your last tests where your Nordicity increased from your father to you, but decreased significantly in your brother.

In Spain, that is called CHEATING AT THE CARD.

We have caught you with the ice cream cart, camouflaged Frenchman.

I mean that you are a Frenchman or Italian with high WHG markers, but you are not Spanish, you are a long way from Yamnaya and a long way from EEF to be one.

You are probably Corsican with asociated autosomal from Ia2.

[R1b-L51]

Nobody has talked about haplogroups here, just about markers associated with the paternal haplogroups of migrations.

The only suspect of not being Spanish here is you, especially in your last tests where your Nordicity increased from your father to you, but decreased significantly in your brother.

In Spain, that is called CHEATING AT THE CARD.

We have caught you with the ice cream cart, camouflaged Frenchman.

I mean that you are a Frenchman or Italian with high WHG markers, but you are not Spanish, you are a long way from Yamnaya and a long way from EEF to be one.

You are probably Corsican with asociated autosomal from Ia2.

In fact, you don't pass the haplogroup specifications to be Spanish, but as I said, that is only another proof linked to your low EEF latency and low Yamnaya latency.

I'm uploading you a screenshot, you can search for me on FTDNA by Kit number if you want:

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On the other hand, I can boast of being Spanish, I have no problem at all, as you can see in my results.

[R1b-L51]

The genetic distance between populations is given by the autosomal DNA, if it were given by the haplogroup "some" friends wrongly called Latinos would not have to eliminate from their results the indigenous part e.t.c. to obtain complete European and Spanish coordinates.

Although I understand the obsession of some people with haplogroup, especially if they are already of non-European ethnicity, it must be very important to them and it is easy for them to go into catharsis. ;)

another screenshot for you (real time capture)

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[R1b-L51]

The genetic distance between populations is given by the autosomal DNA, if it were given by the haplogroup "some" friends wrongly called Latinos would not have to eliminate from their results the indigenous part e.t.c. to obtain complete European and Spanish coordinates.

Although I understand the obsession of some people with haplogroup, especially if they are already of non-European ethnicity, it must be very important to them and it is easy for them to go into catharsis. ;)


Ancient origins= 0% Non-european

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[Eurafricanid]

I have a few questions about a few nations
First-Are Corsegans genetically closer to Greeks or Swiss?

Greeks.

<tbody>
Distance to:
French_Corsica


0.03494438
Greek_Thessaly


0.05035208
Swiss_French

</tbody>



Second-Who is closer genetically, Spaniards and Swedes or Armenians and Chechens?

Armenians and Chechens.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Spanish_Average


0.09268240
Swedish

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Armenian_Average


0.08602985
Chechen

</tbody>

I honestly expected more, because of how close they are geographically.
https://languagesoftheworld.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chechnya.png



Third-Are the Irish genetically closer to Spaniards or Ukrainians?

A bit closer to the Ukrainians.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Irish


0.07310336
Ukrainian_Average


0.07706784
Spanish_Average

</tbody>


P.S. Though not all Spanish populations


<tbody style="scrollbar-width: auto; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.467) rgba(28, 28, 28, 0);">
Distance to:
Irish


0.07297968
Spanish_Cataluna


0.07310336
Ukrainian_Average


</tbody>


I hope you can help me

Hope that was helpful! :thumb001:

[R1b-L51]

Greeks.

<tbody>
Distance to:
French_Corsica


0.03494438
Greek_Thessaly


0.05035208
Swiss_French

</tbody>




Armenians and Chechens.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Spanish_Average


0.09268240
Swedish

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Armenian_Average


0.08602985
Chechen

</tbody>

I honestly expected more, because of how close they are geographically.
https://languagesoftheworld.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chechnya.png




A bit closer to the Ukrainians.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Irish


0.07310336
Ukrainian_Average


0.07706784
Spanish_Average

</tbody>


P.S. Though not all Spanish populations


<tbody style="scrollbar-width: auto; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.467) rgba(28, 28, 28, 0);">
Distance to:
Irish


0.07297968
Spanish_Cataluna


0.07310336
Ukrainian_Average


</tbody>



Hope that was helpful! :thumb001:

You could also compare Sicilians with Greeks to see if Sicilians are more or less similar to the french Alpines that are Not Mediterranean enough, nor Celtic enough as for example the Corsicans (gallops&bonapartes) ?

[Valenman]

Greeks.

<tbody>
Distance to:
French_Corsica


0.03494438
Greek_Thessaly


0.05035208
Swiss_French

</tbody>




Armenians and Chechens.


<tbody style="scrollbar-width: auto; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.467) rgba(28, 28, 28, 0);">
Distance to:
Spanish_Average


0.09268240
Swedish


</tbody>


<tbody style="scrollbar-width: auto; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.467) rgba(28, 28, 28, 0);">
Distance to:
Armenian_Average


0.08602985
Chechen


</tbody>

I honestly expected more, because of how close they are geographically.
https://languagesoftheworld.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chechnya.png




A bit closer to the Ukrainians.

<tbody style="scrollbar-width: auto; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.467) rgba(28, 28, 28, 0);">
Distance to:
Irish


0.07310336
Ukrainian_Average


0.07706784
Spanish_Average


</tbody>




Hope that was helpful! :thumb001:

thank you, everything as I expected,
Curious, although Spain and Ireland are similar in Y-DNA, they are very different in Autosomal DNA, so the myth of "Atlantic facede" is not true, at least in large part.
About Armenians and Chechens I was asking because I saw photos of different groups (Universities, parties, etc...) And they were very different in general even though they were very close geographically
Apparently Caucasus is a region with extreme genetic and phenotypic diversity.
Also curious that the French are an ethnic group genetically speaking but rather they are several ethnic groups of European origin Latinized and then Frenchized (Although some continue to preserve their language, but few) Some are closer to Central Europeans, some to Germans, others to British, Others to Italians/Greeks others to Iberians

[Eurafricanid]

You could also compare Sicilians with Greeks to see if Sicilians are more or less similar to the french Alpines that are Not Mediterranean enough, nor Celtic enough as for example the Corsicans (gallops&bonapartes) ?


<tbody style="scrollbar-width: auto; scrollbar-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.467) rgba(28, 28, 28, 0);">
Distance to:
Sicilian_Average


0.03625826
Greek_Thessaly


</tbody>

I don't know exactly what you mean, because Corsicans aren't alpines, only the Swiss French are in my comparison, the Corsicans are Tuscan Italians with a bit more of Sardinian DNA.

[Grace O'Malley]

thank you, everything as I expected,
Curious, although Spain and Ireland are similar in Y-DNA, they are very different in Autosomal DNA, so the myth of "Atlantic facede" is not true, at least in large part.
About Armenians and Chechens I was asking because I saw photos of different groups (Universities, parties, etc...) And they were very different in general even though they were very close geographically
Apparently Caucasus is a region with extreme genetic and phenotypic diversity.
Also curious that the French are an ethnic group genetically speaking but rather they are several ethnic groups of European origin Latinized and then Frenchized (Although some continue to preserve their language, but few) Some are closer to Central Europeans, some to Germans, others to British, Others to Italians/Greeks others to Iberians

The Irish are R1b-L21 and the majority R1b in Spain and Portugal is R1b-DF27. The brother clade of R1b-DF27 is R1b-U152. They both came from ZZ11.

https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/a/a9/SNPS-1.jpg

This is a good visual of the R1b tree

https://www.jmhartley.com/HBlog/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/2021-03-28-16_19_02-Window.png

[Gallop]

Nobody has talked about haplogroups here, just about markers associated with the paternal haplogroups of migrations.

The only suspect of not being Spanish here is you, especially in your last tests where your Nordicity increased from your father to you, but decreased significantly in your brother.

In Spain, that is called CHEATING AT THE CARD.

We have caught you with the ice cream cart, camouflaged Frenchman.

I mean that you are a Frenchman or Italian with high WHG markers, but you are not Spanish, you are a long way from Yamnaya and a long way from EEF to be one.

You are probably Corsican with asociated autosomal from Ia2.


Because the coordinates will improve, what do you want me to tell you, I'm not a computer scientist and I'm not going to be one, I limit myself to execute my authentic and Andalusian coordinates, I don't even know how to manipulate them, nor do I want to, my pride would prevent me from doing so. Everyone here knows that I am a complete Spaniard. You have been in this genetics business for 20 years and now you discover that siblings can have different recombinations? xd. On the other hand, you go into catharsis with the haplogroups, I already explained above why.

Boy, be proud to be "Latino" , hispano-americano.



By the way, I have coordinates from FTDNA and Ancestry, my results from both companies are published here.

If you say that because in the other thread I got 10 something in pre-viking with the Ancestry coordinates, with the FTDNA coordinates I get almost 9 in pre-viking, so don't give me those either.

[Gallop]

Ancient origins= 0% Non-european

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Mine: Crees que me importa, estoy encantado de estar roto por dentro y por fuera, tú sabes el juego y las posibilidades que da algo así, no lo sabes porque entras en catarsis, en espiral, en bucle con los haplogrupos.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDlovhCOyKlMJUikCPLIoU79rhd5gRP9uwjuW-U0FhWqJ4icVYvRXU00O3Rc2_opmDEtLTHnUeexK8mOIndbwH0h xRn-xzLcWyJ40dwtf4L6NijBmgnlWu0pkpGq8Xq8zvXMdO-covhIjn9N2Eum3-x2WW7kQTueffIgVM7LKQtjGXgyaorKca6Qtm_4w/s1021/AncientOrigins.jpg

For you, if it makes you happy. I have a 2% non-European and my father and brother non-European have it at 0%. But my brother has told me to be a bit suspicious of South Americans in the sense that they will be capable of anything, even faking results, photoshopping, anything to appear more European and my brother is much smarter than me, sometimes I have shown him some of those results with a separate photo and he has clearly seen that it was a manipulation.

[EasternLusitanian]

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Jajajaj, eres increible. Ojala de mayor ser como tu

[Gallop]

Jajajaj, eres increible. Ojala de mayor ser como tu

Lo que es seguro es que soy español andaluz, auténtico, completo y entero.

[R1b-L51]

Jajajaj, eres increible. Ojala de mayor ser como tu

Un imbécil "redomao", por supuesto no soy hispanoamericano, pero cualquiera que lo sea y dadas sus continuas faltas de respeto e incontinencia verbal tendría pleno derecho a cruzarle la cara por espabilao.
Viene aquí al foro a somatizar sus complejos, cuando ni siquiera él mismo sabe de donde coño viene...

[gixajo]

Boy, be proud to be "Latino" , hispano-americano.

Ahora que te veo, si recuerdo bien que tu Ydna era E-V22, hay un individuo nuevo español en un nuevo estudio del que no tenemos aún los G25 pro si Ydna/mtdna con ese Ydna, al que se le atribuye (no sé porqué) orígenes vascos.

No sé si ya lo has visto tú, a ver si encuentro donde lo dicen...

[R1b-L51]

Ahora que te veo, si recuerdo bien que tu Ydna era E-V22, hay un individuo nuevo español en un nuevo estudio del que no tenemos aún los G25 pro si Ydna/mtdna con ese Ydna, al que se le atribuye (no sé porqué) orígenes vascos.

No sé si ya lo has visto tú, a ver si encuentro donde lo dicen...

Muy muy vasco sí...

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Es de estos vascos que dan ganas de invitarle a un chacolí y a un pincho de jalufo...

https://genarchivist.com/showthread.php?tid=786

[R1b-L51]

Ahora que te veo, si recuerdo bien que tu Ydna era E-V22, hay un individuo nuevo español en un nuevo estudio del que no tenemos aún los G25 pro si Ydna/mtdna con ese Ydna, al que se le atribuye (no sé porqué) orígenes vascos.

No sé si ya lo has visto tú, a ver si encuentro donde lo dicen...

Mira ya por cerrar el tema para que sepa ya de una vez de dónde viene y deje de dar la matraca, es un haplogrupo típico de la cerámica cardial (entraron en Iberia antes que los Yamnaya).

Followed by Voskarides (2016): “E-V22 and E-M34 are common in the Southern Levant, Sicily, Algeria, and in Egypt and rare in Europe. These lineages, like J2b-M205, could mirror a Pottery Neolithic movement to Cyprus from the Southern Levant (Pearson R 2 coefficient of correlation of E- M34 to longitude: 0.164, p = 0.003).


*Phoenicia (core in Southern Levant, hight in 1200 BC-300 BC) with stretched through the whole Mediterranean area, and especially connected with for example Sicily (4,58% E-V22 with some specific subclades).

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Me imagino que es uno de los supervivientes levantinos que queden en Iberia, lo de ancestral no se le quita, lo de pesao tampoco.

https://e-v22.net/references/

En todo caso fenicio/judío tenía que ser.

[gixajo]

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Joder, lo debo haber soñado, porque ahora no lo encuentro.

A ver el E-V22 tiene un TMRCA de 11800 a 8200 años, hay que ir a ramas específicas, porque si no podríamos decir que cualquier R1b es de Uzbekistán.

Pensaba que lo había visto en esta lista de ese estudio, pero solo veo E-V65 y E-V13, me equivocaría con uno de esos dos, me extraña mucho que me haya equivocado, tal vez sea de otra lista...


I20396.AGTW Visigoth_North_Girona_Pla_rel familyBPla_1std 134971 1392 E-V13 H1a CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine __+__North_Africa_Punic 0,413769 0,728 0,067 0,212 0,079 0,06 0,034



I20391.AGTW Visigoth_North_Girona_Pla 55946 1392 E-V65 T2c1d+152 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,168827 0,549 0,098 0,361 0,11 0,09 0,046


Lo que si hay es el primer R1a-M417 (como el mío) español, y bastante visigodo por cierto, poca mezcla ibérica todavía y subclado desconocido. :)


I20270.AG Visigoth_North_Girona_Pla 138848 1392 R-M417 U5a1b1 CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine 0,171878 0,702 0,081 0,298 0,081

[gixajo]

Bueno, si a alguien le interesa, la lista de Ydna&mtdna de los samples de ese estudio es ésta:

I7424.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Alta 537403 400 n/a U5b1+16189+@16192 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,121261 0,498 0,047 0,338 0,051 0,163 0,025
I3808.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Alta 579539 400 n/a H1 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,0460608 0,211 0,047 0,559 0,05 0,23 0,025
I8147.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Viejo 32477 550 n/a H1 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,0610065 0,392 0,132 0,385 0,149 0,223 0,07
I8145.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Viejo 45929 550 J H Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,650123 0,372 0,1 0,39 0,116 0,239 0,056
I8146.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Viejo 169449 550 n/a H3a1 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,428068 0,321 0,071 0,306 0,079 0,374 0,035
I12648.AG Islamic_North_Valencia_Csagunt 28157 750 R-M269 H1 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine 0,496253 0,761 0,122 0,239 0,122
I12515.AG Islamic_North_Castello_Betxi 575649 750 J-Y21862 H3 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,128698 0,571 0,05 0,298 0,054 0,132 0,025
I12649.AG Islamic_North_Valencia_Csagunt 137623 750 E-CTS4236 H13a1a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,149867 0,57 0,07 0,278 0,078 0,152 0,035
I7457.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Cuartel 488779 750 E-CTS1273 H3+152 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,357307 0,51 0,05 0,26 0,053 0,23 0,025
I12645.AG Islamic_North_Valencia_Csagunt 42877 750 n/a U5b1f1a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,247347 0,489 0,109 0,277 0,125 0,233 0,053
I12644.AG Islamic_North_Valencia_Csagunt 549137 750 E-PF2546 U4a2 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,032154 0,449 0,048 0,313 0,053 0,238 0,025
I12647.AG Islamic_North_Valencia_Csagunt 619420 750 n/a H1ak1 Spain_IA__+__CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Ro man_Byzantine__+__North_Africa_Punic 0,207583 0,212 0,085 0,423 0,089 0,152 0,053 0,213 0,022
I12514.AG Islamic_North_Castello_Betxi 502872 854 J-M319 HV0+195 Spain_IA__+__CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Ro man_Byzantine__+__North_Africa_Punic 0,0811988 0,347 0,09 0,291 0,09 0,17 0,051 0,192 0,022
I7497.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Romero 103659 900 n/a H20a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,168129 0,303 0,084 0,455 0,091 0,242 0,04
I7499.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Romero 846465 900 n/a H5 CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine __+__North_Africa_Punic 0,467093 0,325 0,049 0,452 0,056 0,223 0,024
I12516.AG Islamic_North_Castello_Betxi 423919 937 n/a U5b2b2 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,102384 0,545 0,052 0,352 0,058 0,103 0,026
I10892.AG Medieval_North_Girona_Ramis 546645 950 n/a H1e1a3 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,0156593 0,731 0,049 0,231 0,053 0,038 0,023
I7500.AG Islamic_South_Granada_Maraute 65832 950 E-L19 M1b1a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,351575 0,385 0,105 0,472 0,118 0,143 0,051
I10895.AG Medieval_North_Girona_Ramis 618876 1038 R-S1911 H1ap1 Spain_IA__+__CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Ro man_Byzantine__+__North_Africa_Punic 0,0143258 0,251 0,086 0,438 0,089 0,23 0,054 0,081 0,021
I19663.AG Visigoth_South_Guadalajara_Gualda 777233 1070 n/a J2a2b1a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,197435 0,561 0,046 0,255 0,049 0,183 0,024
I7674.AG Visigoth_North_Barcelona_Esquerda 27625 1153 n/a H42 Spain_IA 0,422889228 1
I7672.AG Visigoth_North_Barcelona_Esquerda 57076 1153 R-Z202 T2h Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine 0,16779 0,783 0,103 0,217 0,103
I7675.AG Visigoth_North_Barcelona_Esquerda 123204 1153 R-L151 U3a1 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine 0,0132303 0,768 0,076 0,232 0,076
I7673.AG Visigoth_North_Barcelona_Esquerda 297440 1153 n/a W1+119 Spain_IA__+__CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Ro man_Byzantine__+__North_Africa_Punic 0,0772373 0,412 0,101 0,319 0,099 0,208 0,063 0,06 0,025
I7676.AG Visigoth_North_Barcelona_Esquerda 70637 1153 n/a U5a1c Spain_IA__+__CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Ro man_Byzantine__+__North_Africa_Punic 0,039718 0,215 0,179 0,514 0,161 0,203 0,107 0,068 0,042
I3585.AG Visigoth_South_Granada_Zafarraya 721497 1195 R-BY25512 H1 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,358972 0,555 0,046 0,284 0,049 0,161 0,025
I28361.AG Roman-Visigoth_North_Tarragona_Vilardida 234442 1200 J-Z7515 H50 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,26305 0,667 0,058 0,252 0,063 0,081 0,028
I19659.AG Visigoth_South_Guadalajara_Gualda 764582 1227 R-FGC65158 U5a1c Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,590862 0,6 0,044 0,33 0,047 0,07 0,022
I19658.AGTW Visigoth_South_Guadalajara_Illana 62085 1243 n/a U5a1a1 CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine 0,347873 0,801 0,08 0,199 0,08
I29896.TW Visigoth_South_Malaga_Quinta 47608 1250 R-L52 n/a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,117592 0,65 0,111 0,24 0,128 0,109 0,057
I29764.TW Visigoth_South_Malaga_Quinta 47126 1250 n/a n/a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,654649 0,462 0,105 0,271 0,121 0,267 0,053
I29761.TW Visigoth_South_Malaga_Quinta 557147 1250 R-BY165817 U5b3f Spain_IA__+__CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Ro man_Byzantine__+__North_Africa_Punic 0,0840484 0,436 0,087 0,409 0,086 0,073 0,059 0,082 0,022
I29762.TW Visigoth_South_Malaga_Quinta 64828 1250 n/a n/a Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine__+__Nort h_Africa_Punic 0,139254 0,421 0,102 0,51 0,112 0,069 0,049
I15419.AG Visigoth_South_Toledo_Abajo_o 47220 1276 n/a H27 Spain_IA__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine 0,0241463 0,695 0,118 0,305 0,118
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I19896.TW Visigoth_South_Madrid_Boadilla 112374 1350 R-M269 J1d3 CNE_EarlyMedieval__+__WestAnatolia_Roman_Byzantine __+__North_Africa_Punic 0,659643 0,556 0,079 0,382 0,092 0,062 0,039
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Ajeje posteó aquí (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?388677-Disparate-demographic-impacts-of-the-Roman-Colonization-and-the-Migration-Period-in-the-Iberian-Pen&p=8068325&highlight=Disparate+demographic+impacts#post806832 5)algo similar, pero en esta lista vienen también resultados "óptimos" de admixture con % como se puede ver, y algún Ydna/mtdna puede variar algo.

[R1b-L51]

Joder, lo debo haber soñado, porque ahora no lo encuentro.

A ver el E-V22 tiene un TMRCA de 11800 a 8200 años, hay que ir a ramas específicas, porque si no podríamos decir que cualquier R1b es de Uzbekistán.

Pensaba que lo había visto en esta lista de ese estudio, pero solo veo E-V65 y E-V13, me equivocaría con uno de esos dos, me extraña mucho que me haya equivocado, tal vez sea de otra lista...





Lo que si hay es el primer R1a-M417 (como el mío) español, y bastante visigodo por cierto, poca mezcla ibérica todavía y subclado desconocido. :)


Veamos, aquí ibérico o no ibérico no hay ninguno. o mejor dicho, lo pueden ser todos, partiendo de la base que la península ibérica se ha creado a partir de flujos migratorios, puede ser tan ibérico un E como un R, como un T como un I...

Teniendo claro eso y que es imposible repartir carnets de ibericidad...con respecto a lo que me cuentas, el E-v22 es tan andaluz como vasco o catalán, solo tienes que observar el mapa migratorio de la cerámica cardial:

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Además si pones las antenas a algo más divino para obtener la inspiración (algunos les llaman los akashikos, pero es tan solo Dios), podrás observar leves matices...

Por qué se han llevado siempre (en el fondo) tan bien los andaluces con los catalanes? por qué ambos tienen un tufo a supuesta superioridad y a venderte la puta moto?? por qué son tan chovinistas y gregarios? y por qué también puedes oler ese tufillo en Francia?? pues porque junto a este E-v22 cardial también viajaron otros marcadores semitas, es decir otros individuos de grupo J1...

Nada más lejos de la realidad, por eso el catalán Gerard Piqué de los morros (labios) judíos se casó con una tipa del Líbano (Shakira), cada cual más apegado al dinero como buenos semitas que son, y eso no fue matrimonio sino negocio.

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Ahora bien, a esta gente no se te olvide amigo, siempre hay que andarles a palos detrás, porque van "del palo"y si tú te dejas se te subirán a la chepa con su descaro.

Dicho esto, y para tu caso particular del R1a, si bien podrías ser visigodo, normalmente si oyes "gallops" (galopes) suele funcionar también el que pienses en caballos, obviamente también pueden ser zebras, pero suelen ser caballos.

Es decir, antes que aferrarte a la hipótesis visgoda, puedes también pensar en los autrigones, los cuales estaban muy emparentados con los cántabros. En el mapa de R1a también está muy claro, y esto no tiene ningún tipo de coincidencia con los visigodos. Y cuando hablo de cántabros me refiero a los de verdad, no a los de Cantabria actual, sino a los que habitaban cerca de los astures (también muy rico en R1a, por eso sube la intensidad de amarillo en Astorga), esos cántabros vivían parte en Asturias y parte en León por el valle de Sajambre. Si miras el mapa verás que además de esos astur-cántabros, también en Cantabria hay mucho amarillo R1a, pero eso no es por los cántabros sino por los autrigones, que como te digo están emparentados con astyr y cantabri, como celtas de la edad de hierro que eran.


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Existe mucha presencia fundacional en las Vardulias (más tarde Castilla), La Rioja, e incluso reino de Navarra por parte de los autrigones.

[R1b-L51]

The Irish are R1b-L21 and the majority R1b in Spain and Portugal is R1b-DF27. The brother clade of R1b-DF27 is R1b-U152. They both came from ZZ11.

https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/a/a9/SNPS-1.jpg

This is a good visual of the R1b tree

https://www.jmhartley.com/HBlog/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/2021-03-28-16_19_02-Window.png

Don't worry, Grace. The day I do the big Y and determine which of the 5 or more possible R1b groups I belong to (Gaelic, Briton, Germanic, Italo-Celtic, Iberian, or R1b-L51) I'll tell you. At the moment it would be very bold to be able to determine that it is the Df-27, given the great variety of options we have between Asturias, Galicia and Portugal (north), Portugal (south) and surrounding areas. It would be too bold, since that only applies in eastern and central Spain.

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