Post your DNAGENICS Ancestry Timeline

[Fabricius]

It is an estimate of the generation in which a population appeared.

We know that we do not receive exactly 25% of DNA from our grandparents and 12.5% from our great-grandparents, etc. A population may occur closer than it seems.
On the other hand, if a population occurs on more branches of the family tree, it may be more in the past.

However, it is an interesting tool to visualize hypothetical generations.

If you want, go to https://www.dnagenics.com/admixture and feel free to choose your favorite calculator.
Take a screenshot of the timeline.



Eurogenes JTest

133710


Eurogenes EUTest 13

133711

[cass]

IMO the most reliable results are those from calculations with a large number of samples (above 30).

Tolan K71
https://i.ibb.co/Zgq7c0X/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-132047-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Eurogenes K36
https://i.ibb.co/GMcthtt/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-13291-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://ibb.co/B6qr1rr)

LM Genetics K47
https://i.ibb.co/27vzkJ0/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-133429-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://ibb.co/Kj2trnc)

Orbis Terrarum Ancestralis K54
https://i.ibb.co/MMTzLp9/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-133548-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


MDLP World K33
https://i.ibb.co/JkzXvnd/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-133720-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Most give ridiculous results >
Modern World Kakaji K25
https://i.ibb.co/HXPH7CP/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-133846-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://ibb.co/PtW6xMW)



Eurasia K20

https://i.ibb.co/jbqBWmp/Zrzut-ekranu-1-10-2024-133230-www-dnagenics-com.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Lux Tenebras]

Tolan k71 and Tolan recent

https://i.ibb.co/5sx2rQt/IMG-4983.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Q99L7cD/IMG-4984.jpg

[Rædwald]

Tolan K71

https://i.postimg.cc/44H2frGY/tolankk71.png

Tolan Recent

https://i.postimg.cc/dtMHL4Q4/tolanrecent.png

[Athalafuns]

Eurogenes K36

https://i.postimg.cc/QxyDP5fr/1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/xTK7GzBR/2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/KYLg4m1R/3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Gallop]

Normally DNAGENICS usually works very badly for me, now it doesn't give me the timelines, I had this one that I could get because there are days that it works better than others.


MDLP K12b Supervised

https://i.postimg.cc/GhDNJhMb/capture-2.png

[Fabricius]

Tolan K71
133721

Eurogenes K36
133722
133723

LM Genetics K47
133724
133725

[Fabricius]

Up!

[ScandinavianCelt]

Honestly I don't really know the best one to post I like the tolin k54 for some reason I feel like it it shows accurate results maybe on my nmonte? I find that calculator interesting for some reason I think it breaks down the genetics into much larger pieces of each group if I remember correctly on the chromosomes you'll find maybe one chromosome is from Central Europe and one chromosome is from northern Europe

[ScandinavianCelt]

my merged data file Tolan K54 Timeline:

https://i.postimg.cc/nzjXgDMz/tolank54-timeline-mrg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[ScandinavianCelt]

Normally DNAGENICS usually works very badly for me, now it doesn't give me the timelines, I had this one that I could get because there are days that it works better than others.


MDLP K12b Supervised

https://i.postimg.cc/GhDNJhMb/capture-2.png

Try the MDLP K18 Ancient Roots: this is my result with merged file data:

https://i.postimg.cc/d19bDv9T/mdlp-k18ancientworldroots-mrg-timeline.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Solitude]

It is an estimate of the generation in which a population appeared.

We know that we do not receive exactly 25% of DNA from our grandparents and 12.5% from our great-grandparents, etc. A population may occur closer than it seems.
On the other hand, if a population occurs on more branches of the family tree, it may be more in the past.

However, it is an interesting tool to visualize hypothetical generations.

If you want, go to https://www.dnagenics.com/admixture and feel free to choose your favorite calculator.
Take a screenshot of the timeline.



Eurogenes JTest

133710


Eurogenes EUTest 13

133711

Fabricius o K15 deles tambem tem o Population Studio , aqui é um teste de outra raw data apesar do fit o resultado nao saiu ruim

https://i.postimg.cc/nzNdk8Jd/Screenshot-20241224-154612-Chrome.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VLQG0c4v/Screenshot-20241224-155032-Chrome.jpg

[Fabricius]

Honestly I don't really know the best one to post I like the tolin k54 for some reason I feel like it it shows accurate results maybe on my nmonte? I find that calculator interesting for some reason I think it breaks down the genetics into much larger pieces of each group if I remember correctly on the chromosomes you'll find maybe one chromosome is from Central Europe and one chromosome is from northern Europe

My Tolan K54 Timeline is surprising, weird and something interesting.

https://i.imgur.com/vV0668m.png

https://i.imgur.com/sAoCePW.png

Interesting because, despite being between the Tolan K13 and K71, it is very different from the two. The occurrence of Saami increases my certainty that, when I mark some "Amerindian" porcetage, in calculators G25 that I use such a sample, it is actually a residual indication of a powerful ANE. I had already noticed that it was closer to North Amerindian than to South Amerindian, and so I no longer used such samples.

But that K54 has one problem: How did the Saami magically arrive in the Canary Islands? Did he hitch a ride with Santa Claus? xD

Well, when I put Saami the Amerindian disappears. And, if I put Estonian in the model, not even Saami appears. I think the Tolan K71 and Tolan K13 M2 results are less mysterious.

Some G25 results:

Normal “LatAm” model:
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.2904% / 0.02290364
91.4 Iberian
6.2 SSA
1.8 North-African
0.6 Amerindian(South)

With Saami sample:
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.8082% / 0.01808169
77.2 Iberian
10.6 Saami_Kola
7.2 North-African
5.0 SSA

With Estonian
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.3526% / 0.01352552
67.4 Iberian
16.8 Estonian
11.4 North-African
4.4 SSA


Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.13586541 Finnish_Southeast
0.13934209 Estonian
0.14191313 Swedish
0.15415949 Saami_Kola:SaamiKola49
0.31466546 Mongolia_IA_Xiongnu_Early_(Scytho-Siberian_Intermediate_Profile)
0.43469688 Russia_Siberia_Tenisei_EBA
0.51106353 USA_Alaska_Ancient_Beringian
0.58664854 Amerindian_North
0.62629852 Brazil_Sumidouro_10100BP
0.71394065 Surui

Distance to: Saami_Kola:SaamiKola49
0.05849694 Finnish_Southeast
0.07735480 Estonian
0.15415949 Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.15719828 Swedish
0.17415083 Spanish_Canarias
0.23962695 Mongolia_IA_Xiongnu_Early_(Scytho-Siberian_Intermediate_Profile)
0.34415936 Russia_Siberia_Tenisei_EBA
0.43988420 USA_Alaska_Ancient_Beringian
0.52288559 Amerindian_North
0.57649169 Brazil_Sumidouro_10100BP
0.66560010 Surui


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Tolan K71 Timeline:
https://i.imgur.com/zFWFv1p.png

Tolan K13 M2 Timeline:
https://i.imgur.com/Hq17DKo.png

[Fabricius]

Fabricius o K15 deles tambem tem o Population Studio , aqui é um teste de outra raw data apesar do fit o resultado nao saiu ruim

https://i.postimg.cc/nzNdk8Jd/Screenshot-20241224-154612-Chrome.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VLQG0c4v/Screenshot-20241224-155032-Chrome.jpg

"Mar do Norte" aparece na terceira geração?
Significa que é teu bisavô, o que é possível sem que você saiba pelo que você me contou. Mas uma posição mais segura poderia ser interpretar como trisavô. O curioso é que, pelas porcentagens 5,80% alemão + norueguês, na timeline deveria aparecer como pentavô.

[Solitude]

"Mar do Norte" aparece na terceira geração?
Significa que é teu bisavô, o que é possível sem que você saiba pelo que você me contou. Mas uma posição mais segura poderia ser interpretar como trisavô. O curioso é que, pelas porcentagens 5,80% alemão + norueguês, na timeline deveria aparecer como pentavô.

Ja pensei nessa possibilidade também de ser algo mais recente , o que poderia explicar a familia ter o fenótipo germanico tão forte, são bastante altos e loiros tambem.

[ScandinavianCelt]

My Tolan K54 Timeline is surprising, weird and something interesting.

https://i.imgur.com/vV0668m.png

https://i.imgur.com/sAoCePW.png

Interesting because, despite being between the Tolan K13 and K71, it is very different from the two. The occurrence of Saami increases my certainty that, when I mark some "Amerindian" porcetage, in calculators G25 that I use such a sample, it is actually a residual indication of a powerful ANE. I had already noticed that it was closer to North Amerindian than to South Amerindian, and so I no longer used such samples.

But that K54 has one problem: How did the Saami magically arrive in the Canary Islands? Did he hitch a ride with Santa Claus? xD

Well, when I put Saami the Amerindian disappears. And, if I put Estonian in the model, not even Saami appears. I think the Tolan K71 and Tolan K13 M2 results are less mysterious.

Some G25 results:

Normal “LatAm” model:
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.2904% / 0.02290364
91.4 Iberian
6.2 SSA
1.8 North-African
0.6 Amerindian(South)

With Saami sample:
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.8082% / 0.01808169
77.2 Iberian
10.6 Saami_Kola
7.2 North-African
5.0 SSA

With Estonian
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.3526% / 0.01352552
67.4 Iberian
16.8 Estonian
11.4 North-African
4.4 SSA


Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.13586541 Finnish_Southeast
0.13934209 Estonian
0.14191313 Swedish
0.15415949 Saami_Kola:SaamiKola49
0.31466546 Mongolia_IA_Xiongnu_Early_(Scytho-Siberian_Intermediate_Profile)
0.43469688 Russia_Siberia_Tenisei_EBA
0.51106353 USA_Alaska_Ancient_Beringian
0.58664854 Amerindian_North
0.62629852 Brazil_Sumidouro_10100BP
0.71394065 Surui

Distance to: Saami_Kola:SaamiKola49
0.05849694 Finnish_Southeast
0.07735480 Estonian
0.15415949 Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.15719828 Swedish
0.17415083 Spanish_Canarias
0.23962695 Mongolia_IA_Xiongnu_Early_(Scytho-Siberian_Intermediate_Profile)
0.34415936 Russia_Siberia_Tenisei_EBA
0.43988420 USA_Alaska_Ancient_Beringian
0.52288559 Amerindian_North
0.57649169 Brazil_Sumidouro_10100BP
0.66560010 Surui


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Tolan K71 Timeline:
https://i.imgur.com/zFWFv1p.png

Tolan K13 M2 Timeline:
https://i.imgur.com/Hq17DKo.png

It might be coming through the caucus region from Finland or other uralic groups down into the Tatar movement into Dagestan and maybe some other areas into the Ukraine I'm not entirely sure but you could check it compare it and see if the Saami vanishes with Tatar added

[Gergő Marosvári]

Tolan Recent Ancestors V2 is probably the best one for me:

https://i.postimg.cc/d1gzpcF6/image.png

[ScandinavianCelt]

Check out your timeline for the Exclusive Reports, and the one with the most sample populations I think is this:

Modern Civilizations K98 (Updated Feb. 2024)

My result:

https://i.postimg.cc/gcD9xBBm/k98-timeline-mrg.jpg (https://postimg.cc/F17CqG4B)pichost (https://postimages.org/)

[Fabricius]

Check out your timeline for the Exclusive Reports, and the one with the most sample populations I think is this:

Modern Civilizations K98 (Updated Feb. 2024)

My result:

https://i.postimg.cc/gcD9xBBm/k98-timeline-mrg.jpg (https://postimg.cc/F17CqG4B)pichost (https://postimages.org/)

I liked this special report, it is accurate in front of your profile information.
And I see that DNAGENICS is heavily discounted on prices. For me it is still very difficult because the currency of my country has the value of feces.
1 EUR = 6.46 BRL.

But I'm going to plan an upgrade on the website.
There are interesting things, such as haplogroups (mine are estimates of free sites and I don't trust much).

Can you tell me if their G25 coordinates have the value of an "official" coordinates?
I'm satisfied with my "simulated" coordinates (I think the limitations of the G25 have nothing to do with this simulation that often proves to be accurate). But since I've now lost interest in Illustrative DNA, that's one more point for DNAGENICS.

[Fabricius]

Tolan Recent Ancestors V2 is probably the best one for me:

https://i.postimg.cc/d1gzpcF6/image.png

https://i.imgur.com/TM9RvaD.png

[Solitude]

https://i.imgur.com/TM9RvaD.png

O dnagenics é muito interessante também pq eles tem o shared modern origins que é o mesmo metodo de analise que outras grandes empresas usam , é um tecnologia chamada de local ancestry inference que em vez de ser uma calculadora de mistura ele analisa os cromossomos separadamente e em pequenos blocos

https://i.postimg.cc/qtWq9nKW/Screenshot-20241225-091411-Chrome.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/YGg0k9f0/Screenshot-20241225-091536-Chrome.jpg