North Christians vs Mozzarabs V2.0

[Eurafricanid]

This is the sequel to "The Reconquista Calculator"
Now using Las Gobas samples, thanks to @Gixajo !
G25 Scaled, for Iberians, but others are welcome too.



Components:
ADD DIST COL - NO

Christians_North_Iberia:A,0.1185682,0.1453415,0.04 46888,0.004552,0.0459858,-0.0014373,-0.0019151,0.0020774,0.0258683,0.0344391,-0.004383,0.0083374,-0.0155671,-0.0139065,0.0089385,0.0023597,-0.0012068,0.0006576,-0.001631,-0.0017067,0.003038,0.0014132,-0.0044386,-0.0032422,0.0011223
Christians_North_Iberia:B,0.1215874,0.1483036,0.05 71943,0.0176554,0.0553841,0.0018626,-0.0010113,0.0011704,0.0301307,0.0380774,-0.0065594,0.0087643,-0.0192489,-0.0130988,0.0146893,0.0031489,-0.0026962,0.0004909,0.0008216,-0.0008484,0.0089442,0.0011219,-0.0063496,-0.009134,0.0006008
Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth,0.1208309,0.1285444,0.0 505752,0.0320142,0.0316469,0.013066,0.008716,-0.0007715,0.0012397,-0.0001266,-0.0066079,0.00511,-0.0086175,-0.0068225,0.0055352,0.0107811,0.0098912,-0.0003311,0.0042242,0.006274,0.0053226,0.0034469,-0.0008614,0.0111189,-0.0022433
Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi,0.1301757,0.1344222,0.0625 392,0.046372,0.0390585,0.0157108,0.0053581,0.00713 82,0.0028669,-0.0002794,-0.006003,0.0049731,-0.0113724,-0.0084156,0.0188652,0.0087177,-0.0017319,0.0020799,0.004766,0.0047523,0.0069316,0 .0041589,-0.0008197,0.0140018,-0.0000499
Mozzarabs:A,0.0805831,0.1443482,0.0213604,-0.0288026,0.0355978,-0.0158793,-0.01077,0.0018389,0.032091,0.0310313,-0.0002816,0.0016134,-0.0037582,-0.0084616,0.0071147,-0.0028402,-0.0016297,-0.0041707,-0.0072709,-0.0006135,0.0001033,-0.0067081,0.0027211,-0.0057368,0.0014857
Mozzarabs:B,0.0682653,0.1454493,0.0291798,-0.0215198,0.039461,-0.0158548,-0.0104754,0.0040267,0.0309137,0.0303379,-0.0017418,0.0049158,-0.0055154,-0.0131188,0.0098395,-0.0038351,-0.0028261,-0.0042538,-0.0145808,-0.0016226,-0.0038558,-0.012563,0.0037773,-0.0064918,-0.0035714
Alans:A,0.1092702,0.0847966,-0.0245128,-0.0195954,-0.0363142,0.003672,0.0095964,-0.0011535,-0.0565848,-0.0238728,-0.0027065,0.0087924,-0.0178145,-0.0013304,0.0044564,-0.007138,0.0199922,-0.0048142,-0.012151,0.0137148,0.0066546,-0.0014838,-0.0023008,-0.0052015,-0.001317
Alans:B,0.109953,0.0937332,-0.0229664,-0.0127478,-0.0310518,0.0018592,0.006964,-0.0044075,-0.0479744,-0.0208296,0.0000704,0.0089722,-0.0152278,-0.0016882,0.0023932,-0.0040351,0.0130688,-0.0046496,-0.0058535,0.0059614,0.0031486,0.0012736,-0.0007478,-0.0015625,-0.0000599



LATAMC (only use this of you're LATAM or recently mixed with the components LATAM are mixed):
South_American_Native,0.048944,-0.307705,0.118039,0.099161,-0.108636,-0.014223,-0.309039,-0.3616,-0.019634,-0.020593,-0.015914,-0.002847,0.006392,0.013212,-0.008822,0.007027,0.00678,0.002154,0.00352,-0.00075,-0.001996,0.012365,-0.004067,-0.000964,-0.006227
North_American_Native,0.0513628,-0.3193842,0.1107795,0.0821028,-0.1070585,-0.0184765,-0.2344232,-0.2786998,-0.0112105,-0.0220508,0.0021518,-0.0029318,0.0026572,0.0066745,-0.0099412,0.0027345,0.00264,0.0010848,0.007196,0.0 054478,0.0005928,0.000216,0.0016485,0.004895,0.004 775
West_African,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
West_African,-0.6226124,0.064486,0.022863,0.0170382,0.0029622,0. 009273,-0.0229135,0.0268834,-0.0388084,0.0279276,0.0057446,-0.0050392,0.0177835,0.0005161,0.0102468,-0.0072759,0.0094202,0.0066352,0.001037,-0.0003909,0.0030572,0.0013138,-0.003374,-0.0002561,-0.0001798
Bantu,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
Bantu,-0.6257428,0.0634707,0.021307,0.0155848,0.0039238,0 .0096915,0.0056988,0.001096,-0.023469,0.0098405,0.0056837,-0.003072,-0.0103318,0.001858,-0.0126558,0.0168058,-0.0075622,0.041839,-0.0199858,0.00247,-0.0024645,-0.0002163,0.003451,-0.0046992,0.0010178

[Athalafuns]

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.5899% / 0.01589895
56.0 Christians_North_Iberia
24.0 Mozzarabs
16.2 Germanic_Kingdoms
3.8 Alans

Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.5899% / 0.01589895
48.8 Christians_North_Iberia:A
24.0 Mozzarabs:B
13.4 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
7.2 Christians_North_Iberia:B
3.8 Alans:A
2.8 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth

Distance to: RNB27
0.02381366 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.03988814 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.05795183 Mozzarabs:A
0.05887207 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.05956499 Mozzarabs:B
0.06987340 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.14036990 Alans:B
0.15481771 Alans:A

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.0704% / 0.02070422
78.8 Christians_North_Iberia
11.4 Mozzarabs
9.8 Alans


Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.0704% / 0.02070422
78.8 Christians_North_Iberia:A
11.4 Mozzarabs:A
9.8 Alans:B



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Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU


0.02779532
Christians_North_Iberia:A


0.04767643
Christians_North_Iberia:B


0.05695350
Mozzarabs:A


0.06598912
Mozzarabs:B


0.06802940
Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth


0.08156615
Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi


0.13537877
Alans:B


0.15051594
Alans:A


</tbody>

[RyoHazuki]

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.2912% / 0.01291240
73.6 Germanic_Kingdoms
25.4 Christians_North_Iberia
1.0 Mozzarabs

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.6831% / 0.03683089
85.0 Germanic_Kingdoms
10.2 Mozzarabs
4.8 Christians_North_Iberia

Does Mozzarabs show berber admix?

[EasternLusitanian]

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0192% / 0.01915255
50.3 Christians_North_Iberia
45.3 Mozzarabs
4.4 Alans

Distance to: MV_scaled
0.03688989 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.03805203 Mozzarabs:A
0.04328600 Mozzarabs:B
0.05667452 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.07934057 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.09236539 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13983805 Alans:B
0.15416943 Alans:A

[Erronkari]

Distance to: Francisco_scaled
0.03863704 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04645265 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.07056461 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.07585345 Mozzarabs:A
0.08043112 Mozzarabs:B
0.08226959 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.14544897 Alans:B
0.15857352 Alans:A
0.60264719 North_American_Native
0.66899156 South_American_Native
0.75275348 West_African
0.75554522 Bantu
0.75799417 Bantu
0.76357273 West_African

Target: Francisco_scaled
Distance: 2.8070% / 0.02806984
92.2 Christians_North_Iberia
4.4 Alans
3.4 South_American_Native

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.1719% / 0.02171941
68.8 Mozzarabs
28.8 Germanic_Kingdoms
2.4 Christians_North_Iberia

Distance to: Pedro_scaled
0.04304109 Mozzarabs:B
0.04351509 Mozzarabs:A
0.04443555 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.05934513 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.07475332 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08584313 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.14122220 Alans:B
0.15596507 Alans:A

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 2.3152% / 0.02315207
72.0 Mozzarabs
15.8 Germanic_Kingdoms
12.2 Christians_North_Iberia

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.9687% / 0.01968745
46.2 Mozzarabs
35.0 Christians_North_Iberia
18.8 Germanic_Kingdoms

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692434
95.4 Christians_North_Iberia
3.6 Mozzarabs
1.0 Alans

[Eurafricanid]

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.2912% / 0.01291240
73.6 Germanic_Kingdoms
25.4 Christians_North_Iberia
1.0 Mozzarabs

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.6831% / 0.03683089
85.0 Germanic_Kingdoms
10.2 Mozzarabs
4.8 Christians_North_Iberia

Does Mozzarabs show berber admix?

Yes, Mozzarabs have berber admixture, mostly from the Iron Age to the Roman Age, although there was already North African admxture present in the Bronze Age too.

Target: Spain_BellBeaker_oAfrica
Distance: 3.4103% / 0.03410265
50.4 ANF
28.0 Iberomaurusian
10.4 Natufian
9.8 Sub_Saharan_African
1.4 WHG


Target: Portugal_MBA.SG
Distance: 3.8900% / 0.03889983
65.8 ANF
19.8 WHG
12.0 Yamnaya
1.4 EHG
1.0 Iberomaurusian


Target: Spain_EIA_Tartessian
Distance: 3.7762% / 0.03776177
61.0 ANF
19.6 WHG
17.2 Yamnaya
1.4 Iberomaurusian
0.8 Nganasan


Target: Spain_Roman
Distance: 3.4174% / 0.03417353
58.4 ANF
23.0 Yamnaya
9.6 Iberomaurusian
8.8 WHG
0.2 Sub_Saharan_African



Target: Spain_Roman_oMixed
Distance: 3.0290% / 0.03029036
51.8 ANF
30.4 Yamnaya
10.2 WHG
7.4 Iberomaurusian
0.2 Sub_Saharan_African


Target: Spain_Hellenistic_oMixed
Distance: 4.6518% / 0.04651823
67.4 ANF
19.8 Yamnaya
4.8 Iberomaurusian
4.4 EHG
3.4 WHG
0.2 Sub_Saharan_African


Target: Portugal_Miroico_LateRoman.SG
Distance: 2.6951% / 0.02695069
54.0 ANF
27.8 Yamnaya
11.0 WHG
7.2 Iberomaurusian



Target: Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman.SG
Distance: 3.3433% / 0.03343312
53.6 ANF
28.2 Yamnaya
16.0 WHG
1.6 Iberomaurusian
0.6 Sub_Saharan_African

[Erronkari]

This is the sequel to "The Reconquista Calculator"
Now using Las Gobas samples, thanks to @Gixajo !
G25 Scaled, for Iberians, but others are welcome too.



Components:
ADD DIST COL - NO

Christians_North_Iberia:A,0.1185682,0.1453415,0.04 46888,0.004552,0.0459858,-0.0014373,-0.0019151,0.0020774,0.0258683,0.0344391,-0.004383,0.0083374,-0.0155671,-0.0139065,0.0089385,0.0023597,-0.0012068,0.0006576,-0.001631,-0.0017067,0.003038,0.0014132,-0.0044386,-0.0032422,0.0011223
Christians_North_Iberia:B,0.1215874,0.1483036,0.05 71943,0.0176554,0.0553841,0.0018626,-0.0010113,0.0011704,0.0301307,0.0380774,-0.0065594,0.0087643,-0.0192489,-0.0130988,0.0146893,0.0031489,-0.0026962,0.0004909,0.0008216,-0.0008484,0.0089442,0.0011219,-0.0063496,-0.009134,0.0006008
Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth,0.1208309,0.1285444,0.0 505752,0.0320142,0.0316469,0.013066,0.008716,-0.0007715,0.0012397,-0.0001266,-0.0066079,0.00511,-0.0086175,-0.0068225,0.0055352,0.0107811,0.0098912,-0.0003311,0.0042242,0.006274,0.0053226,0.0034469,-0.0008614,0.0111189,-0.0022433
Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi,0.1301757,0.1344222,0.0625 392,0.046372,0.0390585,0.0157108,0.0053581,0.00713 82,0.0028669,-0.0002794,-0.006003,0.0049731,-0.0113724,-0.0084156,0.0188652,0.0087177,-0.0017319,0.0020799,0.004766,0.0047523,0.0069316,0 .0041589,-0.0008197,0.0140018,-0.0000499
Mozzarabs:A,0.0805831,0.1443482,0.0213604,-0.0288026,0.0355978,-0.0158793,-0.01077,0.0018389,0.032091,0.0310313,-0.0002816,0.0016134,-0.0037582,-0.0084616,0.0071147,-0.0028402,-0.0016297,-0.0041707,-0.0072709,-0.0006135,0.0001033,-0.0067081,0.0027211,-0.0057368,0.0014857
Mozzarabs:B,0.0682653,0.1454493,0.0291798,-0.0215198,0.039461,-0.0158548,-0.0104754,0.0040267,0.0309137,0.0303379,-0.0017418,0.0049158,-0.0055154,-0.0131188,0.0098395,-0.0038351,-0.0028261,-0.0042538,-0.0145808,-0.0016226,-0.0038558,-0.012563,0.0037773,-0.0064918,-0.0035714
Alans:A,0.1092702,0.0847966,-0.0245128,-0.0195954,-0.0363142,0.003672,0.0095964,-0.0011535,-0.0565848,-0.0238728,-0.0027065,0.0087924,-0.0178145,-0.0013304,0.0044564,-0.007138,0.0199922,-0.0048142,-0.012151,0.0137148,0.0066546,-0.0014838,-0.0023008,-0.0052015,-0.001317
Alans:B,0.109953,0.0937332,-0.0229664,-0.0127478,-0.0310518,0.0018592,0.006964,-0.0044075,-0.0479744,-0.0208296,0.0000704,0.0089722,-0.0152278,-0.0016882,0.0023932,-0.0040351,0.0130688,-0.0046496,-0.0058535,0.0059614,0.0031486,0.0012736,-0.0007478,-0.0015625,-0.0000599



LATAMC (only use this of you're LATAM or recently mixed with the components LATAM are mixed):
South_American_Native,0.048944,-0.307705,0.118039,0.099161,-0.108636,-0.014223,-0.309039,-0.3616,-0.019634,-0.020593,-0.015914,-0.002847,0.006392,0.013212,-0.008822,0.007027,0.00678,0.002154,0.00352,-0.00075,-0.001996,0.012365,-0.004067,-0.000964,-0.006227
North_American_Native,0.0513628,-0.3193842,0.1107795,0.0821028,-0.1070585,-0.0184765,-0.2344232,-0.2786998,-0.0112105,-0.0220508,0.0021518,-0.0029318,0.0026572,0.0066745,-0.0099412,0.0027345,0.00264,0.0010848,0.007196,0.0 054478,0.0005928,0.000216,0.0016485,0.004895,0.004 775
West_African,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
West_African,-0.6226124,0.064486,0.022863,0.0170382,0.0029622,0. 009273,-0.0229135,0.0268834,-0.0388084,0.0279276,0.0057446,-0.0050392,0.0177835,0.0005161,0.0102468,-0.0072759,0.0094202,0.0066352,0.001037,-0.0003909,0.0030572,0.0013138,-0.003374,-0.0002561,-0.0001798
Bantu,-0.628304,0.064994,0.020365,0.017442,-0.000615,0.016176,-0.016451,0.020076,-0.033746,0.020228,0.008607,-0.003147,-0.001933,0.001514,-0.006786,0.00769,-0.009648,0.00114,0.001257,0.003502,-0.002496,-0.000989,0.001109,-0.001084,-0.006826
Bantu,-0.6257428,0.0634707,0.021307,0.0155848,0.0039238,0 .0096915,0.0056988,0.001096,-0.023469,0.0098405,0.0056837,-0.003072,-0.0103318,0.001858,-0.0126558,0.0168058,-0.0075622,0.041839,-0.0199858,0.00247,-0.0024645,-0.0002163,0.003451,-0.0046992,0.0010178

Amigo, this calc is amazing❗️:thumb001:
I am not joking.
Thanks to you today I think I found out something I've always tried to unserstood and I think finally I could because of this calc.
The calc that Dr. Davidski G25 sent to me included a population called "Sokhta_Iran" or something similar, and the same happened to others of G25.
And now I understood.
Alans where apparently an originally "iranian" folk that settled in Iberia, so that could explain all this mistery.
This calc is really amazing. :thumb001:

[R1b-L51]

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
52.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
9.4 Alans

Mmm I'm not an expert, I feel like something is wrong, in the sense that I don't really get any significant distance towards any sample, it seems like it's a study created specifically for Basques or Catalans, but if you look at us Aragonese and especially Iberians who are from the West like me or the Portuguese, we get too far margins of distance towards these samples.
Maybe you should increase the grill of the sources? For example, we Western Iberians could use Suevi genetics very well (in fact I don't understand adding Alan markers, since they didn't stay long on the peninsula and were expelled to North Africa where they created a kingdom with the Vandals).

[unmoggable]

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 0.8096% / 0.00809637
89.0 Germanic_Kingdoms
4.8 Alans
3.6 Mozzarabs
2.6 Christians_North_Iberia

0.01352973 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.02733455 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.06520070 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.06534232 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.11034654 Mozzarabs:A
0.11121901 Mozzarabs:B
0.14047412 Alans:B
0.15484835 Alans:A

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02240561 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.04533792 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.07259582 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.07605126 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.12317194 Mozzarabs:B
0.12317415 Mozzarabs:A
0.15518305 Alans:B
0.16958075 Alans:A

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2406% / 0.02240561
100.0 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi

[Eurafricanid]

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
52.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
9.4 Alans

Mmm I'm not an expert, I feel like something is wrong, in the sense that I don't really get any significant distance towards any sample, it seems like it's a study created specifically for Basques or Catalans, but if you look at us Aragonese and especially Iberians who are from the West like me or the Portuguese, we get too far margins of distance towards these samples.
Maybe you should increase the grill of the sources? For example, we Western Iberians could use Suevi genetics very well (in fact I don't understand adding Alan markers, since they didn't stay long on the peninsula and were expelled to North Africa where they created a kingdom with the Vandals).

That's kind of how it works with Roman Age to Medieval iberia, there are mainly three kinds of samples, the Basque type (some even more WHG than them), the Modern Catalan type (not exclusive to Eastern Iberia, there are Portuguese and Central Iberian samples that match that too), and what I call Mozzarabic type (high North African, and common in Iberia since the Roman Age and also common in Medieval times)

[prohairesis]

Target: azoreangrandmother_scaled
Distance: 1.1340% / 0.01134008
49.6 Christians_North_Iberia
26.8 Mozzarabs
20.6 Germanic_Kingdoms
3.0 Alans

from sao jorge island

[tk'es]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 4.4918% / 0.04491849
97.8 Alans
2.2 Germanic_Kingdoms


Distance to: tk'es_scaled
0.04504109 Alans:B
0.05256718 Alans:A
0.13484990 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.15037481 Mozzarabs:A
0.15280123 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.15725759 Mozzarabs:B
0.15836341 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.17587233 Christians_North_Iberia:B

[JerryS.]

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7175% / 0.01717468
86.8 Germanic_Kingdoms
5.6 Mozzarabs
5.0 Christians_North_Iberia
2.6 Alans

[R1b-L51]

That's kind of how it works with Roman Age to Medieval iberia, there are mainly three kinds of samples, the Basque type (some even more WHG than them), the Modern Catalan type (not exclusive to Eastern Iberia, there are Portuguese and Central Iberian samples that match that too), and what I call Mozzarabic type (high North African, and common in Iberia since the Roman Age and also common in Medieval times)

Okay, my friend, I don't want to make you feel bad, but I have to say what seems to be true (and it really has all the chances of being a true hypothesis), that taking into account that according to 23andme and FTDNA, 99% of my ancestry is from the Iberian Peninsula (and specifically from Spain), however, with your test I barely get a 0.32 proximity to the closest sample, while a modern Ossetian (which obviously is not exactly the same as an Alan) gets a:

0.04504109 Alans:B
0.05256718 Alans:A.

Let me tell you, but this doesn't make any sense.

1) In the Basque Country, there are barely 2 million Basques (in reality, half of them are no longer), compared to 48 million Spaniards, or compared to 54.6 million in the entire Iberian Peninsula, this represents barely 4.2% of the Iberian population. During the reconquest (in which the Basques did not participate directly, which is even more ridiculous), the Basque territory was even more depopulated, while Castile was heavily populated, so at most the Basques would represent 2.5% of the total population in the best of cases.

2) The Alans were one of the invaders of the Iberian Peninsula, but they were the ones who stayed the shortest time and the ones who mixed the least with the local population, both they and the Vandals were quickly expelled by the Suevi and the Visigoths to North Africa, that is, the only kingdoms of Germanic tribes that remained and mixed with the population (and in a very slight way, since they were aristocracy), were the Suevi and the Visigoths (and also in this order, since the genetics of the Suevi have persisted more thanks to the geographical isolation of Galicia)

3) The Catalans in the Middle Ages did not even exist, and much less the modern Catalans. In fact, the situation in Catalonia has always been one of division, between the taifas of Lérida or towns like Urgel where the Mozarabs developed the Proto-Valencian language (see Organyà), and the counties of Barcelona and Girona where the population was more Gothic and the extinct Provençal language was spoken. In fact, Catalan means the same as Castilian, and means the guardian of a castle, Catalan comes from Castlà (Castilian in Catalan), but it is a name that was created precisely in an area that never had anything to do with the county of Barcelona politically or even in terms of population, but with the county of Urgell or Pallars Sobirà, much closer to Aragon and even Castile.
Estimating the Catalan population at that time, it was insignificant (barely 300 thousand inhabitants), compared to Castile, with a population of 6 million (among the most populated kingdoms in Europe at the time). Doing the math, that means that Catalonia represented 4.7% of the population of Castile + Catalonia, but if we add to that the inhabitants of Al-Andalus (more populated than Castile) or the Crown of Aragon, Catalonia probably does not represent even 2% of the Spanish population, and including Portugal even less.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_Catalu%C3%B1a
https://www.anabad.org/epidemias-en-la-ciudad-de-barcelona-1333-1651/


In short, you are creating a medieval model based on:

1) A minority Basque population that also never participated in the reconquest.

2) On a Germanic tribe that never established a stable kingdom in the Iberian Peninsula and that was also quickly expelled.

3) On an even more minority population (almost anecdotal), which was the Catalan population and that also surely has nothing to do with the current one, since after the black plague in Barcelona and Girona, they had to repopulate with Aragonese, in the year 1333, great famines, and plague so that in a short time more than ten thousand men died. The city of Barcelona lost 20% of its population (and this was almost the end of the Middle Ages).

That is to say, your model has nothing to do with a supposed inhabitant of the time of the reconquest, but with a Hispania that never existed.

I suggest that if you want to make a medieval model of Hispania, you get samples of Visigoths, Suevi, and mainly medieval Castilians, medieval Portuguese, medieval Aragonese, a Navarrese (or inhabitant of Pamplona) from the Middle Ages, medieval Mozarabs from Toledo, medieval Andalusians, and please ignore the Basques, the Catalans, and the Alans.

[placebo]

Target: placebo
Distance: 4.6243% / 0.04624258
90.4 Alans
9.6 Mozzarabs

[Anatolya]

Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 5.5973% / 0.05597282
82.0 Alans
18.0 Mozzarabs

[Eurafricanid]

Okay, my friend, I don't want to make you feel bad, but I have to say what seems to be true (and it really has all the chances of being a true hypothesis), that taking into account that according to 23andme and FTDNA, 99% of my ancestry is from the Iberian Peninsula (and specifically from Spain), however, with your test I barely get a 0.32 proximity to the closest sample, while a modern Ossetian (which obviously is not exactly the same as an Alan) gets a:

0.04504109 Alans:B
0.05256718 Alans:A.

Let me tell you, but this doesn't make any sense.

1) In the Basque Country, there are barely 2 million Basques (in reality, half of them are no longer), compared to 48 million Spaniards, or compared to 54.6 million in the entire Iberian Peninsula, this represents barely 4.2% of the Iberian population. During the reconquest (in which the Basques did not participate directly, which is even more ridiculous), the Basque territory was even more depopulated, while Castile was heavily populated, so at most the Basques would represent 2.5% of the total population in the best of cases.

2) The Alans were one of the invaders of the Iberian Peninsula, but they were the ones who stayed the shortest time and the ones who mixed the least with the local population, both they and the Vandals were quickly expelled by the Suevi and the Visigoths to North Africa, that is, the only kingdoms of Germanic tribes that remained and mixed with the population (and in a very slight way, since they were aristocracy), were the Suevi and the Visigoths (and also in this order, since the genetics of the Suevi have persisted more thanks to the geographical isolation of Galicia)

3) The Catalans in the Middle Ages did not even exist, and much less the modern Catalans. In fact, the situation in Catalonia has always been one of division, between the taifas of Lérida or towns like Urgel where the Mozarabs developed the Proto-Valencian language (see Organyà), and the counties of Barcelona and Girona where the population was more Gothic and the extinct Provençal language was spoken. In fact, Catalan means the same as Castilian, and means the guardian of a castle, Catalan comes from Castlà (Castilian in Catalan), but it is a name that was created precisely in an area that never had anything to do with the county of Barcelona politically or even in terms of population, but with the county of Urgell or Pallars Sobirà, much closer to Aragon and even Castile.
Estimating the Catalan population at that time, it was insignificant (barely 300 thousand inhabitants), compared to Castile, with a population of 6 million (among the most populated kingdoms in Europe at the time). Doing the math, that means that Catalonia represented 4.7% of the population of Castile + Catalonia, but if we add to that the inhabitants of Al-Andalus (more populated than Castile) or the Crown of Aragon, Catalonia probably does not represent even 2% of the Spanish population, and including Portugal even less.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_Catalu%C3%B1a
https://www.anabad.org/epidemias-en-la-ciudad-de-barcelona-1333-1651/


In short, you are creating a medieval model based on:

1) A minority Basque population that also never participated in the reconquest.

2) On a Germanic tribe that never established a stable kingdom in the Iberian Peninsula and that was also quickly expelled.

3) On an even more minority population (almost anecdotal), which was the Catalan population and that also surely has nothing to do with the current one, since after the black plague in Barcelona and Girona, they had to repopulate with Aragonese, in the year 1333, great famines, and plague so that in a short time more than ten thousand men died. The city of Barcelona lost 20% of its population (and this was almost the end of the Middle Ages).

That is to say, your model has nothing to do with a supposed inhabitant of the time of the reconquest, but with a Hispania that never existed.

I suggest that if you want to make a medieval model of Hispania, you get samples of Visigoths, Suevi, and mainly medieval Castilians, medieval Portuguese, medieval Aragonese, a Navarrese (or inhabitant of Pamplona) from the Middle Ages, medieval Mozarabs from Toledo, medieval Andalusians, and please ignore the Basques, the Catalans, and the Alans.

I don't think you know what I was talking about and how things work, I wasn't talking about the groups themselves, I was talking about genetically similar groups, and, btw, it's not that MY samples are like the way I said, ALL samples are like that, pretty much. And, btw, not because you don't match them it means that somehow they're not valid, you're a single person that is a mix of ancient people, they don't need to match you.
Alans are NOT Germanic, and if you didn't have them, (or some of their influence) in you you would not match them in this calculator, like many Iberians don't, also, don't forget that all Iberians were very similar to basques before the Roman Age.

[R1b-L51]

I don't think you know what I was talking about and how things work, I wasn't talking about the groups themselves, I was talking about genetically similar groups, and, btw, it's not that MY samples are like the way I said, ALL samples are like that, pretty much. And, btw, not because you don't match them it means that somehow they're not valid, you're a single person that is a mix of ancient people, they don't need to match you.
Alans are NOT Germanic, and if you didn't have them, (or some of their influence) in you you would not match them in this calculator, like many Iberians don't, also, don't forget that all Iberians were very similar to basques before the Roman Age.

Let me explain it more simply.

- Neither in the Middle Ages (nor now) was there Alan genetics in the peninsula.
- In the Middle Ages, the current Catalans did not exist, therefore it makes no sense to establish it as a comparative model of the north of Hispania at that time in any way, because it was not even the genetics the same as that of the current Catalans (created from the subsequent repopulation by the French as the reconquest progressed and only after these groups mixed with those in Iberia).
-In the Middle Ages, the Basques were not the basis of the Spanish population. For example, the Galicians and Portuguese were strongly influenced by the Suevi, the Cantabrians and Asturians (Montanians and Cismontani) had a strong presence of localized R1a that is surely fading away today, the Andalusians had a strong Berber component (I think you have respected that), the Navarrese had very typical markers of Aquitaine and France and they could indeed resemble a mixture of the Basques that you mention and the current Catalans, the Aragonese had a strong presence of I2a1 that I do not think either the Catalans or the Basques represent...

So my question is... if you have only represented the inhabitants of al-Andalus, what the hell have you really represented?

You can include the Frisians, the Eskimos and the teenage Ninja Turtles if you want, but none of those groups were present in Iberia...

[Solitude]

Good calc , It represents very well the north of Portugal and Galicia during the early middle ages period.

Target: DnaGenicsAncestry_scaled
Distance: 1.0780% / 0.01078024
24.2 Christians_North_Iberia:A
22.0 Mozzarabs:B
13.2 West_African
11.2 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
11.0 Bantu
8.6 South_American_Native
6.4 Mozzarabs:A
3.4 Alans:B

Target: MHDnagenics_scaled
Distance: 1.1875% / 0.01187474
28.2 Christians_North_Iberia:A
24.4 Mozzarabs:B
14.4 West_African
11.4 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
9.4 West_African
9.0 South_American_Native
1.8 Alans:B
1.4 Mozzarabs:A

[R1b-L51]

I don't think you know what I was talking about and how things work, I wasn't talking about the groups themselves, I was talking about genetically similar groups, and, btw, it's not that MY samples are like the way I said, ALL samples are like that, pretty much. And, btw, not because you don't match them it means that somehow they're not valid, you're a single person that is a mix of ancient people, they don't need to match you.
Alans are NOT Germanic, and if you didn't have them, (or some of their influence) in you you would not match them in this calculator, like many Iberians don't, also, don't forget that all Iberians were very similar to basques before the Roman Age.

If what you are designing is a calculator just after the fall of the Roman Empire, then you should not call your calculator Reconquista, but PRE-ISLAM INVASION IBERIAN CALCULATOR

To design a calculator of reconquista you need to represent the living forces of the reconquista, the kingdoms of Navarra and Aragon instead of the Basques, the kingdoms of Leon and Castile instead of the Alans??, and the Galician-Portuguese that you have forgotten.

Putting the poor and rural Basques isolated in their villages, or the proto-Catalans (in fact Catalonia was not created as a principality by Aragon until 1343) those who barely managed to resist the attack of Al-Manzor and almost died from the black plague does not make any sense, in fact they have not been protagonists in the repopulation (not even of Valencia where the majority of surnames are Navarrese, Aragonese and Castilian).

If you do not represent the kingdoms that managed the reconquest, you cannot call this calculator as such.

What I am telling you is so important that without the kingdoms of Aragon, Leon and Castile, Spanish would not even exist.

[GRAMMAR OF THE VULGAR LANGUAGE OF SPAIN]

Grammar of the vulgar language of Spain.— Louvain: By Bartholomé Gravio, 1559.

The fourth language is the one called the vulgar language of Spain «because it is spoken and understood throughout the country generally». He contrasts this denomination of vulgar with the commonly used ones of Spanish or Castilian. The first is not appropriate because, as we have seen, it is not the only one spoken in Spain, nor is it the oldest or the most illustrious; the second is not exact either because «it is an ambitious name, and full of imbibition, since it is clearer than the light of the sun, that the kingdoms of Leon and Aragon have greater and better rights in the vulgar language than the kingdom of Castile». As for Portuguese, it is legitimate to consider it a fifth language because of its particularities, or to include it in the vulgar language, since "it is not really separate from that one."

Of course, the medieval kingdoms do not resemble the Basque ones (to begin with because these kingdoms were repopulated by Mozarabs who came from Seville, Cordoba and Toledo).

This should have been explained to you by Cristiano Viejo, the history of Spain is already sufficiently distorted without trying to distort it even more.

[Eurafricanid]

If what you are designing is a calculator just after the fall of the Roman Empire, then you should not call your calculator Reconquista, but PRE-ISLAM INVASION IBERIAN CALCULATOR

To design a calculator of reconquista you need to represent the living forces of the reconquista, the kingdoms of Navarra and Aragon instead of the Basques, the kingdoms of Leon and Castile instead of the Alans??, and the Galician-Portuguese that you have forgotten.

Putting the poor and rural Basques isolated in their villages, or the proto-Catalans (in fact Catalonia was not created as a principality by Aragon until 1343) those who barely managed to resist the attack of Al-Manzor and almost died from the black plague does not make any sense, in fact they have not been protagonists in the repopulation (not even of Valencia where the majority of surnames are Navarrese, Aragonese and Castilian).

If you do not represent the kingdoms that managed the reconquest, you cannot call this calculator as such.

What I am telling you is so important that without the kingdoms of Aragon, Leon and Castile, Spanish would not even exist.

[GRAMMAR OF THE VULGAR LANGUAGE OF SPAIN]

Grammar of the vulgar language of Spain.— Louvain: By Bartholomé Gravio, 1559.

The fourth language is the one called the vulgar language of Spain «because it is spoken and understood throughout the country generally». He contrasts this denomination of vulgar with the commonly used ones of Spanish or Castilian. The first is not appropriate because, as we have seen, it is not the only one spoken in Spain, nor is it the oldest or the most illustrious; the second is not exact either because «it is an ambitious name, and full of imbibition, since it is clearer than the light of the sun, that the kingdoms of Leon and Aragon have greater and better rights in the vulgar language than the kingdom of Castile». As for Portuguese, it is legitimate to consider it a fifth language because of its particularities, or to include it in the vulgar language, since "it is not really separate from that one."

Of course, the medieval kingdoms do not resemble the Basque ones (to begin with because these kingdoms were repopulated by Mozarabs who came from Seville, Cordoba and Toledo).

This should have been explained to you by Cristiano Viejo, the history of Spain is already sufficiently distorted without trying to distort it even more.

Since you are not able to understand what I tried to explain to you, the samples I used represent medieval northern Iberian Christians and southern Mozzarabs, modern Iberians show a MIX of both populations. I DID NOT use any Basque or Catalan samples, is that clear enough for you?
You shouldn't match Alans if you didn't have any Caucasian/Iranian influence, which does not seem to be the case, do you understand now?

This calculator is about GENETICS, not POLITICS.

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2481% / 0.02248121
44.0 Christians_North_Iberia
37.6 Mozzarabs
12.2 Germanic_Kingdoms
6.2 Alans

[vader]

Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 1.1696% / 0.01169600
45.0 Christians_North_Iberia
40.8 Mozzarabs
13.6 Germanic_Kingdoms
0.6 Alans

Distance to: Algarvio_scaled
0.02626134 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04453344 Mozzarabs:A
0.04476964 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04751133 Mozzarabs:B
0.06793181 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08178293 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.14207472 Alans:B
0.15635777 Alans:A
0.62248680 North_American_Native
0.69062773 South_American_Native
0.73255565 West_African
0.73538186 Bantu
0.73745274 Bantu
0.74334369 West_African


Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 1.9248% / 0.01924760
40.2 South_American_Native
23.8 Christians_North_Iberia
19.0 Mozzarabs
8.6 North_American_Native
5.4 Alans
3.0 Bantu

Distance to: Wife_scaled
0.29261020 North_American_Native
0.31722151 Alans:B
0.31931051 Alans:A
0.32928127 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.33943201 Mozzarabs:A
0.33984933 Mozzarabs:B
0.33995374 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.34328491 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.34759317 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.35611935 South_American_Native
0.73587933 West_African
0.73787217 Bantu
0.74008153 Bantu
0.74604506 West_African

[R1b-L51]

Since you are not able to understand what I tried to explain to you, the samples I used represent medieval northern Iberian Christians and southern Mozzarabs, modern Iberians show a MIX of both populations. I DID NOT use any Basque or Catalan samples, is that clear enough for you?
You shouldn't match Alans if you didn't have any Caucasian/Iranian influence, which does not seem to be the case, do you understand now?

This calculator is about GENETICS, not POLITICS.

In the first place it would not make sense to match alani because they did not leave any genetic presence on the peninsula.


Secondly, I have taken markers from those parts (iranian) on all the other calculators.

Thirdly, you do not include the Suebi or the Visigoths??¿?¿?¿?¿.

Fourthly, the current population is not a mixture of the populations you are mentioning, because kingdoms such as León, Aragon or a large part of Castile were repopulated by Mozarabs from the beginning, that is, before reconquering, therefore before they were much more Mozarabic. that now contrary to what you claim.

Fifth, all towns like Villafranca (which exist throughout Spain), were repopulated by French practically at the end of the Middle Ages, and that is where the Yamnaya component increases.

I still don't understand shit what parallel world your calculator is about that has never happened on the peninsula.

[R1b-L51]

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
52.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
9.4 Alans

Mmm I'm not an expert, I feel like something is wrong, in the sense that I don't really get any significant distance towards any sample, it seems like it's a study created specifically for Basques or Catalans, but if you look at us Aragonese and especially Iberians who are from the West like me or the Portuguese, we get too far margins of distance towards these samples.
Maybe you should increase the grill of the sources? For example, we Western Iberians could use Suevi genetics very well (in fact I don't understand adding Alan markers, since they didn't stay long on the peninsula and were expelled to North Africa where they created a kingdom with the Vandals).





DAMN HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE CHANGED THE SOURCES ON THE CALCULATOR, NOW MY RESULTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
41.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
11.0 [CODE]Christians_North_Iberia
9.4 Alans

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 [CODE]Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

[R1b-L51]

INCLUDING ALAN AND SUEBI SAMPLES

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
52.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
9.4 Alans



WITHOUT ALAN SAMPLES

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.0627% / 0.02062742
50.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.4 Mozzarabs
11.0 Germanic_Kingdoms

WITHOUT ALAN AN SUEBI SAMPLES

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.0631% / 0.02063138
50.8 Christians_North_Iberia
38.2 Mozzarabs
11.0 Germanic_Kingdoms


Conclusion, what does Alani and Suebi genetics contribute? Apparently it's just confusion, not only does it take away from me Visigothic genetics, but also Mozarabic

[R1b-L51]

INCLUDING ALAN AND SUEBI SAMPLES

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
52.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
9.4 Alans



WITHOUT ALAN SAMPLES

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.0627% / 0.02062742
50.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.4 Mozzarabs
11.0 Germanic_Kingdoms

WITHOUT ALAN AN SUEBI SAMPLES

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 2.0631% / 0.02063138
50.8 Christians_North_Iberia
38.2 Mozzarabs
11.0 Germanic_Kingdoms


Conclusion, what does Alani and Suebi genetics contribute? Apparently it's just confusion, not only does it take away from me Visigothic genetics, but also Mozarabic

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0158% / 0.01578524
70.4 Christians_North_Iberia
24.4 Germanic_Kingdoms
5.2 Alans

[Eurafricanid]

DAMN HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE CHANGED THE SOURCES ON THE CALCULATOR, NOW MY RESULTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 1.8446% / 0.01844617
41.6 Christians_North_Iberia
38.0 Mozzarabs
11.0 [CODE]Christians_North_Iberia
9.4 Alans

Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.03201389 [CODE]Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.04808336 Mozzarabs:A
0.04822740 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.04873541 Mozzarabs:B
0.07172668 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.08355605 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13978483 Alans:B
0.15365316 Alans:A

I changed the sources 0 times, I couldn't even changed if I wanted.

[Fabricius]

Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.4132% / 0.01413182
50.0 Mozzarabs
40.0 Germanic_Kingdoms
5.4 West_African
4.6 Christians_North_Iberia

Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.04621926 Mozzarabs:B
0.05206072 Mozzarabs:A
0.06598924 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.07852159 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.07877268 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.09430610 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.13634780 Alans:B
0.15041459 Alans:A
0.61253585 North_American_Native
0.68101913 South_American_Native
0.69296392 West_African
0.69639880 Bantu
0.69784921 Bantu
0.70350579 West_African

[Fabricius]

A perhaps controversial opinion: I think that not only Ibero-Americans, but also only-euro Iberians should add SSA to any calculator. I'm not sure if the same is true for southern Italians or eastern Mediterraneans, but it seems to be the case for Iberia.

I recognize the limitation of my opinion, as it is based on an inductivist reasoning that, to make matters worse, is with few examples. But it is hard to consider as a coincidence the frequency with which I see Portuguese and Spaniards scoring approximately 1% SSA, whose increase can significantly change the general calculation.

[Pater Patota]

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 3.9274% / 0.03927434
83.4 Alans
16.6 Mozzarabs

[Upsilander]

Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 2.9552% / 0.02955152
83.2 Germanic_Kingdoms
16.8 Christians_North_Iberia


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.03168637 Germanic_Kingdoms:Suebi
0.04588192 Germanic_Kingdoms:Visigoth
0.06396171 Christians_North_Iberia:B
0.06841788 Christians_North_Iberia:A
0.12010033 Mozzarabs:A
0.12119816 Mozzarabs:B
0.15791048 Alans:B
0.17186384 Alans:A
0.62875905 North_American_Native
0.69633569 South_American_Native
0.77747173 West_African
0.78026949 Bantu
0.78222685 Bantu
0.78794764 West_African



A perhaps controversial opinion: I think that not only Ibero-Americans, but also only-euro Iberians should add SSA to any calculator. I'm not sure if the same is true for southern Italians or eastern Mediterraneans, but it seems to be the case for Iberia.

I recognize the limitation of my opinion, as it is based on an inductivist reasoning that, to make matters worse, is with few examples. But it is hard to consider as a coincidence the frequency with which I see Portuguese and Spaniards scoring approximately 1% SSA, whose increase can significantly change the general calculation.

I did use the LATAM add-on in the op. Sometimes it just screws up things for Euro as some ANE might read as Amerindian but it's more a problem with ancient calculators than relatively recent references.

[Fabricius]

I did use the LATAM add-on in the op. Sometimes it just screws up things for Euro as some ANE might read as Amerindian but it's more a problem with ancient calculators than relatively recent references.

Yes, I know and agree about your case.