Ancestry DNA 2024 UPDATE!

[Gergő Marosvári]

Ancestry rolled out their update today and I've received the updated results.

This is what my results look like:
https://i.postimg.cc/7hgwL86C/k-p.png

My previous Eastern Europe and Russia % is now 77% Central & Eastern Europe, I got +3% Balkan, I lost 2% German, 1% Baltic and my Greek %, but I got a new ethnicity, Southern Italy! The new results are quite accurate for me.

What does your updated result look like? Are you satisfied with the new result?

[vader]

Terrible for me. Made me nearly half Spanish.

[Abriekman]

Where's my 1/8 Bulgarian lol???

https://i.imgur.com/Kk8BkQn.png

[Thracian]

Updated

https://i.ibb.co/tXqmy3k/Screenshot-20241010-004424-Ancestry.jpg

Older

https://i.ibb.co/t38Zby2/Screenshot-20240329-081106-Ancestry.jpg

[Abriekman]

Father's results ( Polish from Ukraine )

https://i.imgur.com/XXdtic6.png

Closest to Slovakia on G25 and even got Slovakia community

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/g2NXzzhS/Ancestry-DNA-Ancestral-Regions-9102024.png

I got some Cornish as I predicted ;)

[Damião de Góis]

Terrible for me. Made me nearly half Spanish.

Same here, it's now double of what it used to be more or less. Also, no regions for me.

https://i.imgur.com/qD7FdGW.png

[vader]

Same here, it's now double of what it used to be more or less. Also, no regions for me.

https://i.imgur.com/qD7FdGW.png

The annoying thing with it is my parents and siblings begin going haywire about the differences we get bc they don’t understand this shit is very guesstimated. Like by 23andMe standards especially. For example my brother doesn’t get anything aside from spain and portugal and now a small trace of Icelandic. I get 1% Senegal, 1% nafri, 37% Spain, and 61% Portugal. Some others in my family get even more unusual differences on small-scale. If you look at the regions you can see Spain engulfs like half of Europe now… and basically all of Portugal, crazy oversimplification. As well, nafri region extends its gradient into south Spain and Portugal even into central. Its gradient matches south eastern Spain very strongly which is pure bogus knowing western iberia has more logistically speaking.

[Celestia]

Cool update :)
I scored “very high” in the Channel Islands subregion. That’s pretty interesting.
Germanic Europe, Sweden, Denmark, France and Spain are all new for me.
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[Damião de Góis]

The annoying thing with it is my parents and siblings begin going haywire about the differences we get bc they don’t understand this shit is very guesstimated. Like by 23andMe standards especially. For example my brother doesn’t get anything aside from spain and portugal and now a small trace of Icelandic. I get 1% Senegal, 1% nafri, 37% Spain, and 61% Portugal. Some others in my family get even more unusual differences on small-scale. If you look at the regions you can see Spain engulfs like half of Europe now… and basically all of Portugal, crazy oversimplification. As well, nafri region extends its gradient into south Spain and Portugal even into central. Its gradient matches south eastern Spain very strongly which is pure bogus knowing western iberia has more logistically speaking.

Yeah, i had not noticed that.

https://i.imgur.com/wBWLH2R.png

North Africa one looks strange too, that's not how the distribution goes:

https://i.imgur.com/TxkKcoB.png

[hazmatnik]

Me

https://i.postimg.cc/Vvhm6N1w/Screenshot-20241009-181601-Ancestry.jpg (https://postimg.cc/T5nZNfpN)

Paternal aunt

https://i.postimg.cc/dVYtTLrQ/Screenshot-20241009-181612-Ancestry.jpg (https://postimg.cc/GHX1W3X6)

Maternal aunt

https://i.postimg.cc/SRFHtzyJ/Screenshot-20241009-181622-Ancestry.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FdpPYzk4)

[J. Ketch]

Mine:
https://i.postimg.cc/NjRt9S72/creoda-2.png
Channel Islands? Munster?! WTF. Them's fighting words :mad: What's the difference between these new ancestral regions and the old genetic communities (now 'ancestral journeys' - not much of a journey as they were stationary for 1000+ years), which are still the same for me, and generally accurate?

The ethnicity estimate is however an improvement. The false Scottish is gone but I don't know where they're still finding Danish in the last 500 years.

Mothers:
https://i.postimg.cc/q7YW1GLH/creodamum-2.png
More dubious continental percentages this time but the English percentage went up.

[Jased]

I'm more Jew :thumb001:

[Luke35]

I'd say this is the best estimate that I've ever received:

https://i.imgur.com/ltHPpFo.png

https://i.imgur.com/KxAczh5.png

https://i.imgur.com/MQcn8sN.png

[Feiichy]

Me:
https://i.imgur.com/pYO1JKJ.png

Granny sister
https://i.imgur.com/pKO9c4P.png

Very accurate, especially for her who is complicated German-Serb-Hungarian-Greek mix.

[Feiichy]

...

Quite sure those aren't updated results?

[hazmatnik]

Quite sure those aren't updated results?

:confused: If you can explain, pls?

[Feiichy]

:confused: If you can explain, pls?

check the graphic, also new results don't have subregions in Balkans anymore it seems

[hazmatnik]

check the graphic, also new results don't have subregions in Balkans anymore it seems

Check Ancestry mobile app visuals :wink
You would be terrible criminal investigator i see.

[djipon]

Update as a BULGARIAN - didn't get any new journeys or subregions... Kind of weird I didn't even get Bulgarian subregion, lol. Got two new regions, tho, and lost three. Can't say the results are more accurate or less accurate - they could be both in their own way. But disappointed, nonetheless, that they are still broad in a sense. The Balkans means nothing in particular, Central and Eastern Europe gives no concreteness. Even Greece and Albania I expected to be defined with all the hype for the Subregions. Maybe I'll get some subregions later, who knows... :033102st:

UPDATED RESULTS

https://i.postimg.cc/qRW7dkGQ/image.png




OLD RESULTS


https://i.postimg.cc/25Kk4zgm/image.png

[Solitude]

I got azores and portugal increased a little bit, but i never knew there was azoreans migration to region where my family came from , that s make no sense , did appear france , my ssa is right and amerindian aswell , my dutchs matches is going to england nw again i dont know why , i thought this region would be splited

https://i.postimg.cc/d0058hNP/ancestrydna.png

result is too good , look like a little bit G25 but i think strange england nw still appear , i did isolate snp's from non-iberian matches in my raw data and i got this result, do not appear english but ancestry still appear

Target: CHRisolatedsnpsmatches_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.0963% / 0.01096350
40.4 Dutch
23.4 Ingrian
9.4 Nenets_Forest
4.4 Even
3.8 Ethiopian_Gumuz
3.8 Masai
3.6 Khakass
2.6 Yakut_Sakha
2.4 Eskimo_Chaplin
1.8 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
1.2 Estonian
1.2 Yukagir
1.0 Ju_hoan_North
0.6 Indonesian_Bali
0.4 Udmurt

[Albannach]

The results are much the same as before apart from the 2% Icelandic which is a bit of a surprise.

I'm glad I also have some subregions for Scotland now after so many years of having no communities. They all make sense apart from the Northern Isles. Interestingly, Ancestry strongly links me to this subregion despite no known recent link.

https://i.imgur.com/8gN7mAM.png

Here are my hack results, I'm guessing 06601 is Iceland
https://i.imgur.com/E4X8fCJ.png

[vader]

Pretty bad:

https://i.imgur.com/WfqzPUM.jpeg

[drb234]

Ultra Anglo:cool:
https://i.postimg.cc/1R6dSSs5/image.png

[Solitude]

Pretty bad:

https://i.imgur.com/WfqzPUM.jpeg

Queria saber como funciona essas subs regiões , pq eu receber azores não entendo como isso poderia ser possivel

[unmoggable]

before and after, pure american greatness
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[~Elizabeth~]

I gained The Netherlands but lost Wales, Sweden, and Norway.

https://i.postimg.cc/BbVWjjDz/Ancestry-DNA-2024.png

https://i.postimg.cc/ncXb61ff/Ancestry-DNA-2024.png


I'm disappointed in losing Wales. I have a little bit of Welsh on my mother's side.

Gaining 1% Netherlands is ok because I have a little bit of Dutch on my father's side.

[happycow]

10% Italian? come on now :icon_lol:

https://i.imgur.com/2D5kEzy.jpg

[Mortimer]

https://i.ibb.co/yVMvVR5/Screenshot-2024-10-10-035204.png (https://ibb.co/d73C7c6)
https://i.ibb.co/JvvVJ5d/Screenshot-2024-10-10-035140.png (https://ibb.co/0CCTbhX)
webseite nach bildern durchsuchen (https://de.imgbb.com/)

[RyoHazuki]

Updated, surprisingly very high Germanic Europe. France, Balkans, Spain, all new to me.
https://i.postimg.cc/C189h2W5/Screenshot-20241009-190740-Chrome.jpg

[Coastal Elite]

https://i.imgur.com/1mykJDw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/WZkPxHh.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/R2dr2M7.jpeg

[Geba]

I like how all Ukraine is included in Central Eastern Europe and Russia is separated. And Belarus is not included in Russia. Bravo.

[Mortimer]

Anyone wants to comment? Some feedback?


https://i.ibb.co/yVMvVR5/Screenshot-2024-10-10-035204.png (https://ibb.co/d73C7c6)
https://i.ibb.co/JvvVJ5d/Screenshot-2024-10-10-035140.png (https://ibb.co/0CCTbhX)
webseite nach bildern durchsuchen (https://de.imgbb.com/)

[Geba]

Anyone wants to comment? Some feedback?

Eastern European Roma must be that green región going downwards from southern Poland? The region seems incomplete, it could be broader.

Otherwise, you are pretty much Balkan.

[majevica]

fanta stick

https://i.postimg.cc/nhdJjyS8/IMG-5302.jpg (https://postimg.cc/18NTbjZM)

[Mortimer]

Eastern European Roma must be that green región going downwards from southern Poland? The region seems incomplete, it could be broader.

Otherwise, you are pretty much Balkan.

Yes the area where the journey is "southern and eastern european roma" maybe they have journeys for spanish roma or sinti in central europe too, i dont know im "southern and eastern european roma"

https://i.ibb.co/yVMvVR5/Screenshot-2024-10-10-035204.png (https://ibb.co/d73C7c6)

[Feiichy]

Anyone wants to comment? Some feedback?

Ashkenazi is interesting, Ancestry tends to be reliable with that.

[Feiichy]

fanta stick

https://i.postimg.cc/nhdJjyS8/IMG-5302.jpg (https://postimg.cc/18NTbjZM)

Interesting how you get Spain, misinterpreted extra Illyrian? My best friend scores 1% Portugal.

https://i.imgur.com/pxThcJ1.png

[Mortimer]

Ashkenazi is interesting, Ancestry tends to be reliable with that.

yes its interesting i always had that, even before every update, even 2% now 1% i have 2% on 23andme too and even a ashkenazi genetic group

Longbowman says Im 1/64 jew

https://i.ibb.co/sR0hqGV/Screenshot-2024-10-10-082153.png (https://ibb.co/nmHTjvL)

[Feiichy]

yes its interesting i always had that, even before every update, even 2% now 1% i have 2% on 23andme too and even a ashkenazi genetic group

Longbowman says Im 1/64 jew

https://i.ibb.co/sR0hqGV/Screenshot-2024-10-10-082153.png (https://ibb.co/nmHTjvL)

You 100% are small part Jew when you get community on 23andme and score it also on Ancestry. It probably comes from your Russian ancestry. Or Hungarian, if you have any of that.

[Mortimer]

You 100% are small part Jew when you get community on 23andme and score it also on Ancestry. It probably comes from your Russian ancestry. Or Hungarian, if you have any of that.

My aunt said i have some hungarian ancestry via a great grandfather, so maybe. But maybe she just talked bs.

[Gallop]

Update October 2024


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[Feiichy]

My aunt said i have some hungarian ancestry via a great grandfather, so maybe. But maybe she just talked bs.

Hungarian Gypsies have ethnic Hungarian admix, and you are from Vojvodina, it is quite likely IMO.

[Geba]

You 100% are small part Jew when you get community on 23andme and score it also on Ancestry. It probably comes from your Russian ancestry. Or Hungarian, if you have any of that.

Oh, come on, 1%. I would say 1% is most likely noise.

[Feiichy]

Oh, come on, 1%.

What do you mean? 23andme is reliable even with 0.1% Jewish estimate, and Ancestry is as well, everyone who gets it has some for real except Sephards who score Ashkenazi without being partly that because of shared ancestry between those 2.

[Mortimer]

Oh, come on, 1%. I would say 1% is most likely noise.

I know i have a russian ancestor though, 1/16 great great grandfather i guess thats my baltic and russian and central/east european, maybe the 1% ashkenazi is also part of that.

[Selene]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTYJCP63/IMG-20241010-083451.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[rothaer]

Mine:

https://i.imgur.com/eYEdMNp.jpeg

My wife’s:

https://i.imgur.com/qXA6aPn.jpeg

It’s hard to understand how my abt. 40% proto Slavic (in common calculations) becomes inflated as 57% Baltics and Central & Eastern Europe in sum while my wife’s abt. 29% proto Slavic (in common calculations) becomes dwarfed to 9% Baltics and Central & Eastern Europe in sum.

Does my (not applicable) 10% Sweden represent a "Germanic concentrate" that would be a notably bigger percentage - say 20% - if it would be expressed as Germanic Europe? :icon_ask:

[frankhammer]

They're slowly turning me Scottish. Also looks like the Channel islands is the "new thing". Strong associations...

https://i.imgur.com/bLzZ8wZ.jpg

[Geba]

What do you mean? 23andme is reliable even with 0.1% Jewish estimate, and Ancestry is as well, everyone who gets it has some for real except Sephards who score Ashkenazi without being partly that because of shared ancestry between those 2.

I think you are exaggerating. I know the genealogy of my family very well and from my experience those small % have no confirmation. With 0.1% it is always possible to speculate though that it is from that ancestor you can't find from 500-1000 years ago. ;) Oh, I would love to find my Papuan ancestors. :D

[Feiichy]

I think you are exaggerating. I know the genealogy of my family very well and from my experience those small % have no confirmation. With 0.1% it is always possible to speculate though that it is from that ancestor you can't find from 500-1000 years ago. ;) Oh, I would love to find my Papuan ancestors. :D

That's just false and Poles, Belarusians and Ukrainians get minor Ashkenazi regularly because of Pale of settlement and admix of Christianised Jews (obviously in small number hence admixture is in trace amounts) into society.

I saw tons of South Slavic 23andme results and almost nobody gets Jewish while northern Slavs do.

23andme has it refined to such level it can detect even below 1%. And if Mortimer gets that, a community and Ancestry shows the same than it is no mistake. We also have one part Lithuanian member here who scores 1/8 or 1/16 Jewish (I forgot) and he pretends that is "false" because his muh peper trail doesn't show it.

[Mortimer]

That's just false and Poles, Belarisuans and Ukrainians get minor Ashkenazi regularly because of Pale of settlement and admix of Christianised Jews (obviously in small number hence admixture is in trace amounts) into society.

I saw tons of South Slavic 23andme results and almost nobody gets Jewish while northern Slavs do.

23andme has it refined to such level it can detect even below 1%. And if Mortimer gets that, a community and Ancestry shows the same than it is no mistake. We also have one part Lithuanian member here who scores 1/8 or 1/16 Jewish (I forgot) and he pretends that is "false" because his muh peper trail doesn't show it.

I have no problem having jewish, but with 1% im 1/64 or even less like 1/128. 1/8 is a bit more, mine doesnt affect me at all, nor do i know any jewish ancestor. but i think its cool, i mean im 52% roma, why would 1% jewish bother me? Roma are seen as less reputable then jews.

[Feiichy]

I have no problem having jewish, but with 1% im 1/64 or even less like 1/128. 1/8 is a bit more, mine doesnt affect me at all, nor do i know any jewish ancestor. but i think its cool, i mean im 52% roma, why would 1% jewish bother me? Roma are seen as less reputable then jews.

I know, I mean RichmondBread who larps as native American but scores none and has Jewish ancestry instead but he denies it everytime.

[Mortimer]

I know, I mean RichmondBread who larps as native American but scores none and has Jewish ancestry instead but he denies it everytime.

i dont denie it. and its indeed interesting.

[mariusz99]

85% Central/Eastern Europe
6% Baltics
4% Germanic
4% Russia
1% Ashkenazi

For me improvement.

[ColaGusano]

I've become way more Spanish. 63% Spanish and 37% Portuguese. Is is because my family are from the border with Spain? Also, on the hack results I got 0.26% Mali instead of Senegal.

[Gergő Marosvári]

The updated results of my family members:

My mother: https://i.postimg.cc/TwjYtQNm/2024-Ancestry-friss-t-s-Anya.png
My father: https://i.postimg.cc/gjYcQR17/2024-Ancestry-friss-t-s-Apa.png
My sister: https://i.postimg.cc/sDgDJYYQ/2024-Ancestry-friss-t-s-Testv-r.png
My grandmother: https://i.postimg.cc/GmBLWbSb/2024-Ancestry-friss-t-s-Mama.png

[oszkar07]

Updated

oscar's 7 ancestral regions

33%
England & Northwestern Europe
Channel Islands
New

33%
Central & Eastern Europe

16%
Germanic Europe

11%
Ireland

4%
Scotland

2%
Wales

1%
Russia
New

[Geba]

Mamusia, she is even more southern than me

https://i.postimg.cc/yYYnKx4h/114345.png

[Grace O'Malley]

Mine has hardly any change. I just lost 1% Wales

https://i.postimg.cc/504nCs0H/Screenshot-2024-10-10-162900.png

https://i.postimg.cc/D0WQrHKz/Screenshot-2024-10-10-163038.png

Daughter's result. Her Ireland percentage is the same as previously but she has gained 3% extra for Scotland, lost 3% of England and 1% of Wales and has gained 1% Iceland.

https://i.postimg.cc/JrpQFc0q/Screenshot-2024-10-10-060242.png

Brother's result. He lost 4% Scotland and now has 4% England and 1% Wales

https://i.postimg.cc/3w5KYvwf/Screenshot-2024-10-10-162512.png

First Cousin's result. He had just Ireland and Scotland before but now has gained England, Denmark and Norway. His result is of course on the right and mine on the left.

https://i.postimg.cc/VLW9jjxn/Screenshot-2024-10-10-164243.png

I think dna tests are good at getting your ethnicity on the whole but some of the smaller amounts will obviously change if they do some adjustments and you have to allow for overlap with neighbouring populations. This will all depend on their population panels and how well you match that panel.

[Abriekman]

Mine:

https://i.imgur.com/eYEdMNp.jpeg

My wife’s:

https://i.imgur.com/qXA6aPn.jpeg

It’s hard to understand how my abt. 40% proto Slavic (in common calculations) becomes inflated as 57% Baltics and Central & Eastern Europe in sum while my wife’s abt. 29% proto Slavic (in common calculations) becomes dwarfed to 9% Baltics and Central & Eastern Europe in sum.

Does my (not applicable) 10% Sweden represent a "Germanic concentrate" that would be a notably bigger percentage - say 20% - if it would be expressed as Germanic Europe? :icon_ask:

You're just Polish with some additional German admixture, not the other way round xD. Admit it

[Abriekman]

Mamusia, she is even more southern than me

https://i.postimg.cc/yYYnKx4h/114345.png

Funny how your parent as North Slav even gets Balkan, while me with recent 1/8 Balkan heritage got nothing lol

[Geba]

Funny how your parent as North Slav even gets Balkan, while me with recent 1/8 Balkan heritage got nothing lol

Indeed, no confirmed Balkan heritage, according to genealogy.

[Peterski]

Mine:

https://i.imgur.com/eYEdMNp.jpeg

My wife’s:

https://i.imgur.com/qXA6aPn.jpeg

It’s hard to understand how my abt. 40% proto Slavic (in common calculations) becomes inflated as 57% Baltics and Central & Eastern Europe in sum while my wife’s abt. 29% proto Slavic (in common calculations) becomes dwarfed to 9% Baltics and Central & Eastern Europe in sum.

Does my (not applicable) 10% Sweden represent a "Germanic concentrate" that would be a notably bigger percentage - say 20% - if it would be expressed as Germanic Europe? :icon_ask:

Italian Switzerland?!

[Grace O'Malley]

From reading on Reddit it appears that Scotland is all over the place. People have either lost huge amounts of it and others have gained it. Others losing Irish in their results and gaining England. Also people from Northern Ireland getting large amounts of Ireland and losing a lot of Scotland. I don't think they will ever be able to get these areas correct especially for people that have ancestry from all those places. People are saying the Germanic Europe is better but the Irish/Scottish/English results are a bit all over the place. Also people losing Italian and getting Iberian instead. It seems French has gone up in a lot of people's results which is most probably good because it was under reported previously. More people are getting Germanic Europe which would seem to be an improvement as this was also under reported previously. Some people saying their Scandinavian has gone to Netherlands or Germanic Europe.

I think it is impossible to get all these results correct for everyone.

[Solitude]

Update October 2024


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i wonder if this celtic similarity like " wales , ireland , scotland '' that iberians often match on ancestrydna , it would be iron age or some more modern

[Beowulf]

Can't wait to test myself this new update looks pretty good :p

[Grace O'Malley]

Can't wait to test myself this new update looks pretty good :p

To be honest a lot of people are complaining but I don't think it's possible to get it correct especially for Americans who have mixed ancestry. Even people from one ethnicity get results which don't match their paper trail. Both my brother and daughter don't have any English that I'm aware of. There is possible Scottish. Also 1% Iceland from my daughter is obviously just noise. My first cousin as well has no known English, Danish or Norwegian but is half from Dublin and I think it is just overlap with populations that can change with updates.

Anyway I'd love to see your result because you do have some ancestry other than Spanish. It will be interesting if they pick those up.

One fun thing about Ancestry is that they update pretty much every year. :)

[Beowulf]

To be honest a lot of people are complaining but I don't think it's possible to get it correct especially for Americans who have mixed ancestry. Even people from one ethnicity get results which don't match their paper trail. Both my brother and daughter don't have any English that I'm aware of. There is possible Scottish. Also 1% Iceland from my daughter is obviously just noise. My first cousin as well has no known English, Danish or Norwegian but is half from Dublin and I think it is just overlap with populations that can change with updates.

Anyway I'd love to see your result because you do have some ancestry other than Spanish. It will be interesting if they pick those up.

One fun thing about Ancestry is that they update pretty much every year. :)


There is something that i really want to do with Ancestry and is their raw data, i've heard that is one of the bests, so maybe i'll do my G25 again and finally with it i can know my mtdna too :D

I have some distant relatives that tested with AncestryDNA, so i'm hoping to find new interesting coincidences there too :o

[Grace O'Malley]

There is something that i really want to do with Ancestry and is their raw data, i've heard that is one of the bests, so maybe i'll do my G25 again and finally with it i can know my mtdna too :D

I have some distant relatives that tested with AncestryDNA, so i'm hoping to find new interesting coincidences there too :o

Ancestry also has the trees and records as well if you pay for it. I do but don't spend much time on my tree which I really need to start doing otherwise I'm just wasting money. With the trees that people have and that have tested they connect you with relatives through dna. It is called Thru lines and can pinpoint you to finding ancestors that you have brick walls for. I have to check a few of those to see if I can connect them to my family tree.

[Beowulf]

Ancestry also has the trees and records as well if you pay for it. I do but don't spend much time on my tree which I really need to start doing otherwise I'm just wasting money. With the trees that people have and that have tested they connect you with relatives through dna. It is called Thru lines and can pinpoint you to finding ancestors that you have brick walls for. I have to check a few of those to see if I can connect them to my family tree.

I'm already connected to a relative's tree in Ancestry DNA :) it does works pretty well

[nittionia]

I got kinda weird subregions, but at least they got a bit better at labelling Germanic Europe from the rest of NW Europe

https://i.imgur.com/WSDUcwe.png

Also they added a bunch of Nordic countries to my results like Iceland, Denmark, Norway, etc. that are probably just Swedish
23andMe is still better for my family and I, for both the countries and subregions

[Kostek]

133858
1% Levant? Where does that come from? Lol

[Feiichy]

133858
1% Levant? Where does that come from? Lol

From Wallachian.

[Vitez]

https://i.ibb.co/zNkcLdB/Ancestry.png

[Luke35]

Here is my sister's result, similar to mine:

https://i.imgur.com/AoUsaZH.png

[michal3141]

100% Central & Eastern Europe (lost 3% of Baltics compared to the last year update).

133860

[rothaer]

Italian Switzerland?!

It's absurd in her case.

[rothaer]

I think you are exaggerating. I know the genealogy of my family very well and from my experience those small % have no confirmation. With 0.1% it is always possible to speculate though that it is from that ancestor you can't find from 500-1000 years ago. ;) Oh, I would love to find my Papuan ancestors. :D

In case of 23andMe and the Ashkenazi Jewish (AJ) component it's not exaggerated. When there would be shown 0.1% there can be made a question mark but when 0.2% or more AJ is shown at 23andMe then it can be considered applicable, except for when it is Sephard-mediated. Full Sephards score roughly 15% AJ, likely because of some old commonality.

[Erronkari]

Here's mine.
I really liked the changes, it sounds very accurate.
The only doubt I have is they removed completely "France", and I am sure I have roots in Aquitaine, but may be they consider them in the "basque spectrum", who knows...

The other doubt I have, is I don't have only an "ancestral region", which is in northeastern Spain and Southwestern France, but what I don't have is "migrations" outside of the Old World... but if I see the side of the page "parent 1" and "parent 2" there appear many migration routes, but it's ok, I am not going to spoil this thread... may be I will do another one. Cheers. In general aspects I liked the changes. :thumb001:


Current regions.
https://i.postimg.cc/VLCzzsDb/Ancestry-Fran-princ2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Changes.
https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVtST0/Ancestry-cambios.jpg (https://postimg.cc/t1BJXkh6)

Ancesral journey region.
https://i.postimg.cc/P5vvsk86/Ancestry-Fran-migraciones.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Geba]

In case of 23andMe and the Ashkenazi Jewish (AJ) component it's not exaggerated. When there would be shown 0.1% there can be made a question mark but when 0.2% or more AJ is shown at 23andMe then it can be considered applicable, except for when it is Sephard-mediated. Full Sephards score roughly 15% AJ, likely because of some old commonality.

So do you know cases where somebody with 0.2% AJ has found that ancestor of AJ origin? With such small % it is easy to speculate and suggest that somebody doesn't know all ancestors from 500-1000 years ago. I mean, it is nearly impossible to prove.

Ancestry has 1% as the lowest possible mark and even with that it is questionable. Like 1% Baltic or 3% Russia in the case of my mother is simply noise. My experience tells me that, I never can find a proof of those small % in genealogical documentation.

[#Oda#]

So do you know cases where somebody with 0.2% AJ has found that ancestor of AJ origin? With such small % it is easy to speculate and suggest that somebody doesn't know all ancestors from 500-1000 years ago. I mean, it is nearly impossible to prove.

Ancestry has 1% as the lowest possible mark and even with that it is questionable. Like 1% Baltic or 3% Russia in the case of my mother is simply noise. My experience tells me that, I never can find a proof of those small % in genealogical documentation.

I have 0,6% on 23andme and found the ancestress in the 7th generation.

[Abriekman]

So do you know cases where somebody with 0.2% AJ has found that ancestor of AJ origin? With such small % it is easy to speculate and suggest that somebody doesn't know all ancestors from 500-1000 years ago. I mean, it is nearly impossible to prove.

Ancestry has 1% as the lowest possible mark and even with that it is questionable. Like 1% Baltic or 3% Russia in the case of my mother is simply noise. My experience tells me that, I never can find a proof of those small % in genealogical documentation.

0.1%-0.3% AJ means fully Jewish ancestor that lived only 200 years ago. It's not that long ago, if it comes from one side of your family

[Geba]

0.1%-0.3% AJ means fully Jewish ancestor that lived only 200 years ago. It's not that long ago, if it comes from one side of your family

I can't find 19% Balkan for my mother, considering it to overlap with Central and eastern Europe, but okay, seems all can find Jewish, even if it is 0.1%, a truly chosen nation.

[Eurafricanid]

Here's mine.
I really liked the changes, it sounds very accurate.
The only doubt I have is they removed completely "France", and I am sure I have roots in Aquitaine, but may be they consider them in the "basque spectrum", who knows...

The other doubt I have, is I don't have only an "ancestral region", which is in northeastern Spain and Southwestern France, but what I don't have is "migrations" outside of the Old World... but if I see the side of the page "parent 1" and "parent 2" there appear many migration routes, but it's ok, I am not going to spoil this thread... may be I will do another one. Cheers. In general aspects I liked the changes. :thumb001:


Current regions.
https://i.postimg.cc/VLCzzsDb/Ancestry-Fran-princ2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Changes.
https://i.postimg.cc/vBsVtST0/Ancestry-cambios.jpg (https://postimg.cc/t1BJXkh6)

Ancesral journey region.
https://i.postimg.cc/P5vvsk86/Ancestry-Fran-migraciones.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The French is now inside of the Spanish :)


Yeah, i had not noticed that.

https://i.imgur.com/wBWLH2R.png

North Africa one looks strange too, that's not how the distribution goes:

https://i.imgur.com/TxkKcoB.png

[Gergő Marosvári]

100% Central & Eastern Europe (lost 3% of Baltics compared to the last year update).

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100% POLSKA!!! Fajnie! :D

[Gergő Marosvári]

Mamusia, she is even more southern than me

https://i.postimg.cc/yYYnKx4h/114345.png

These results are quite similiar to mine!

[Gergő Marosvári]

Here is my sister's result, similar to mine:

https://i.imgur.com/AoUsaZH.png

Quite accurate results for both of you!!! :)

[Graham]

Lots of overfitting confusing people with results. The usual. Also some labeling issues, i think could be more accurately labeled. The island communities picked up by many in Britain is a bit odd. Otherwise i do find updates exciting, and its nice to see new populations for many, for the first time. :)

[rothaer]

So do you know cases where somebody with 0.2% AJ has found that ancestor of AJ origin? With such small % it is easy to speculate and suggest that somebody doesn't know all ancestors from 500-1000 years ago. I mean, it is nearly impossible to prove.

Ancestry has 1% as the lowest possible mark and even with that it is questionable. Like 1% Baltic or 3% Russia in the case of my mother is simply noise. My experience tells me that, I never can find a proof of those small % in genealogical documentation.

The main way to prove it is to determine the segments oneself thoroughly and laboriously by matches at GEDmatch with full AJ people and then see that 23andMe does perfectly determine the same segments.

But I can anecdotally tell that I know someone that genealogically had a Jew 10 generations back (1/1014) and he perfectly got 0,1% AJ and his father that had the same ancestor 9 generations back (1/512) perfectly got 0.2% AJ at 23andMe. As I said, this is just anecdotally as the real inheritage often is not that perfectly in line with the statistical expectation.

Note that I speak of 23andMe and AJ, not of any other combination. The reference to any other provider or component is irrelevant for this matter.

[Graham]

REGIONS

https://i.ibb.co/Jjn4VCb/image.png
JOURNEYS
https://i.ibb.co/BCK9dZf/image.png

[Not a Cop]

Not shure how well this separation of EE and Russia is, i got a feeling it will give a lot of mixed results.

https://i.imgur.com/V4b7rOU.jpeg

[Kaspias]

https://i.ibb.co/grNH9qQ/Scores.png

https://i.ibb.co/Nm46YWr/Journeys.png

[djipon]

Results turned out to be July 2024 estimations, it seems? 24 hours later I now have Stories and results went from Updated in October to Last Updated in July. It seems everyone's results are now saying updated in July. There is a theory on reddit that they might have released the rough estimations from back in July by mistake. Maybe we await round 2 for October update.

https://i.postimg.cc/vTTCXbsL/image.png

[michal3141]

Not shure how well this separation of EE and Russia is, i got a feeling it will give a lot of mixed results.

https://i.imgur.com/V4b7rOU.jpeg

I saw on a Polish facebook group for genetic genealogy quite some Poles score 2-5% of this new Russian component.
I wonder how about Russians + one more question: do Volga-Ural and Siberian people of Russia get their own components in Ancestry or they are all groupped under Russian component?

[Not a Cop]

I saw on a Polish facebook group for genetic genealogy quite some Poles score 2-5% of this new Russian component.
I wonder how about Russians + one more question: do Volga-Ural and Siberian people of Russia get their own components in Ancestry or they are all groupped under Russian component?


I guess they get their own, but haven't checked.

[Abriekman]

I saw on a Polish facebook group for genetic genealogy quite some Poles score 2-5% of this new Russian component.
I wonder how about Russians + one more question: do Volga-Ural and Siberian people of Russia get their own components in Ancestry or they are all groupped under Russian component?

In my opinion it was a mistake to separate the regions like that. Some partial Russians don't have it at all and get Central and Eastern Europe instead.

It will be a mess just like NW Europeans have

[michal3141]

In my opinion it was a mistake to separate the regions like that. Some partial Russians don't have it at all and get Central and Eastern Europe instead.

It will be a mess just like NW Europeans have

Politics. Putting Hungarians and Slovenes together in one component with Ukrainians but separating Russians will definitely lead to some interesting results.

[Erronkari]

The French is now inside of the Spanish :)

Fernando VII recovered his crown one more time. ;). :thumb001:

[Leto]

Not shure how well this separation of EE and Russia is, i got a feeling it will give a lot of mixed results.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/V4b7rOU.jpeg
This company has never been available in Russia.

[Leto]

Politics. Putting Hungarians and Slovenes together in one component with Ukrainians but separating Russians will definitely lead to some interesting results.
That makes no sense in my opinion. Russians who take the test would get confused when they see they're like 50 percent Russian and 50 percent other things.

[Brandon]

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[ShieldWolf]

My Ancestry DNA update is attached below. Overall, it's a closer match to my genealogical research. The 1% Baltics component is new, but not out of the question. The 1% Spain component is also new and harder to reconcile to my family tree.

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[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

I've gone up to 2% NA :(

https://i.imgur.com/dC0g53E.jpg

[J. Ketch]

They're slowly turning me Scottish. Also looks like the Channel islands is the "new thing". Strong associations...

https://i.imgur.com/bLzZ8wZ.jpg
I apparently have a 'strong connection' with it too. I like Jersey caramels...

Perhaps so many people getting Channel Islands is a manifestation of medieval Norman ancestry? Probably wishful thinking. There maybe truth in the quote by John Everett Millais, when someone said that England conquered Jersey he replied "Never! It was Jersey that conquered England".

[Gergő Marosvári]

Ancestry just changed the name of Southern Italy, now it says: Southern Italy & the Eastern Mediterranean. Weird change tbh...
https://i.postimg.cc/Jn0LdJrP/k-p.png

[happycow]

Ancestry just changed the name of Southern Italy, now it says: Southern Italy & the Eastern Mediterranean. Weird change tbh...
https://i.postimg.cc/Jn0LdJrP/k-p.png

Came here to mention this. A bit silly imo

[Luke35]

Regarding the renaming of the Southern Italy region:

My guess is that for this update Ancestry was attempting to increase precision/recall for Southern Italians (by adding more East Med-shifted Southern Italian samples), the consequence being that Eastern Mediterranean folks (Greek Islands, Turks, etc) can now score a sizable % of the Southern Italy region. So I'm surprised that the update was not released with this new name already in place, as the admixture map for the region clearly shows the East Med affinity.

I think on balance it was better how Ancestry handled this issue in the previous version, with the Southern Italians showing the East Med/West Asian admixture. This new change is probably going to lead to a lot of confusion.

[Albannach]

Has anyone else lost a subregion? my Northern Isles subregion has disappeared, so much for the strong connection.

https://i.imgur.com/hMsspwn.png

[nittionia]

Has anyone else lost a subregion? my Northern Isles subregion has disappeared, so much for the strong connection.

https://i.imgur.com/hMsspwn.png

Yeah I lost my subregions

[ShieldWolf]

Has anyone else lost a subregion? my Northern Isles subregion has disappeared, so much for the strong connection.
Yes, I originally had a Northern Isles subregion in Scotland and a Channel Isles subregion in England. Neither is consistent with my well researched ancestry (although, I keep an open mind on these things). The Channel Isles disappeared before I could copy my results to post here previously. The Northern Isles are gone now as well. In addition, the data on this update is now July 2024, instead of October 2024. I assume that Ancestry is working out some bugs in their system.

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[Grace O'Malley]

Has anyone else lost a subregion? my Northern Isles subregion has disappeared, so much for the strong connection.

https://i.imgur.com/hMsspwn.png

Yes my daughter and for Scotland as well. She originally had this below.

https://i.postimg.cc/JrpQFc0q/Screenshot-2024-10-10-060242.png

Now she only has the Highlands.

https://i.postimg.cc/4d5mwY7y/Screenshot-2024-10-12-110125.png

[Purple Panther]

Yes, I originally had a Northern Isles subregion in Scotland and a Channel Isles subregion in England. Neither is consistent with my well researched ancestry (although, I keep an open mind on these things). The Channel Isles disappeared before I could copy my results to post here previously. The Northern Isles are gone now as well. In addition, the data on this update is now July 2024, instead of October 2024. I assume that Ancestry is working out some bugs in their system.

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I noticed something on your map. Your English and NW Europe colored region shows just middle and eastern England, so is that category just akin to Anglo-Saxon rather than recent NW Europe (these kinds of things are minor pet peeves)?

[Grace O'Malley]

I noticed something on your map. Your English and NW Europe colored region shows just middle and eastern England, so is that category just akin to Anglo-Saxon rather than recent NW Europe (these kinds of things are minor pet peeves)?

I know this is addressed to Sheildwolf and he will most likely comment as well but no it is not just that see map below and where it is also found.

https://i.postimg.cc/rmnqKxR1/Screenshot-2024-10-12-112553.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Wzxj7Vnt/Screenshot-2024-10-12-112951.png

[Purple Panther]

I know this is addressed to Sheildwolf and he will most likely comment as well but no it is not just that see map below and where it is also found.

https://i.postimg.cc/rmnqKxR1/Screenshot-2024-10-12-112553.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Wzxj7Vnt/Screenshot-2024-10-12-112951.png

Ah, it showed just England in his original map. Of course, he edited his post. I don't like the way that they combine England and Northwest Europe. It's like mixing the Irish with the Scottish, which may show that it often comes down to shared ethnicities if the populations remain stable.

[Grace O'Malley]

Ah, it showed just England in his original map. Of course, he edited his post. I don't like the way that they combine England and Northwest Europe. It's like mixing the Irish with the Scottish, which may show that it often comes down to shared ethnicities if the populations remain stable.

I think it is impossible to separate populations by borders. Some areas just have too much cross over. Ireland and the west of Scotland is impossible to separate and then of course there is Northern Ireland.

[Purple Panther]

I think it is impossible to separate populations by borders. Some areas just have too much cross over. Ireland and the west of Scotland is impossible to separate and then of course there is Northern Ireland.

Yep, that's what I'm saying. Immigration muddies (no ethnic slur implied) the waters too.

[J. Ketch]

I also lost Channel Islands, just have Munster to get rid of now.

Ah, it showed just England in his original map. Of course, he edited his post. I don't like the way that they combine England and Northwest Europe. It's like mixing the Irish with the Scottish, which may show that it often comes down to shared ethnicities if the populations remain stable.
Agreed, or like mixing British with Irish on 23andme! The fact that they still call Germany 'Germanic Europe' is also a pet peeve.

[Purple Panther]

I also lost Channel Islands, just have Munster to get rid of now.

Agreed, or like mixing British with Irish on 23andme! The fact that they still call Germany 'Germanic Europe' is also a pet peeve.

They don't seem to be improving with their updating in some instances. They're on the verge of entering the My Heritage realm.

[ShieldWolf]

I noticed something on your map. Your English and NW Europe colored region shows just middle and eastern England, so is that category just akin to Anglo-Saxon rather than recent NW Europe (these kinds of things are minor pet peeves)?
It's the area where the population with this DNA is most dense. If you click on the arrow for the region, you get an expanded population map like Grace O'Malley posted.

[J. Ketch]

They don't seem to be improving with their updating in some instances. They're on the verge of entering the My Heritage realm.
They're a lot better for me, they separate English and Irish ancestry really well. MyHeritage is still a glorified gedmatch calculator, according to them I am 73% 'Scottish and Welsh'.

[Grace O'Malley]

I also lost Channel Islands, just have Munster to get rid of now.

Agreed, or like mixing British with Irish on 23andme! The fact that they still call Germany 'Germanic Europe' is also a pet peeve.

It would be interesting if they did that. I'd love to see how they manage it.

[Purple Panther]

It's the area where the population with this DNA is most dense. If you click on the arrow for the region, you get an expanded population map like Grace O'Malley posted.

That explains it. I didn't even notice the arrow, but the map likely shows a shared Anglo-Saxon ethnicity between the two populations, so it's likely very hard to tease out the very fine differences between Danish, Dutch, and Northern German populations and some English populations.

[ShieldWolf]

That explains it. I didn't even notice the arrow, but the map likely shows a shared Anglo-Saxon ethnicity between the two populations, so it's likely very hard to tease out the very fine differences between Danish, Dutch, and Northern German populations and some English populations.
Ancestry's update has some bugs, but I believe it's actually getting better as Creoda noted. (It's on sale for 50% off right now. Hint, hint. ;))

[J. Ketch]

That explains it. I didn't even notice the arrow, but the map likely shows a shared Anglo-Saxon ethnicity between the two populations, so it's likely very hard to tease out the very fine differences between Danish, Dutch, and Northern German populations and some English populations.
Weirdly the England and NW Europe category still had the codename 'Anglo-Saxon' until recently.

[Purple Panther]

They're a lot better for me, they separate English and Irish ancestry really well. MyHeritage is still a glorified gedmatch calculator, according to them I am 73% 'Scottish and Welsh'.

Sadly, that's the outfit that most TV talk shows use when they test their hosts, and that influences ordinary people to test with them. Compared to a lot of people, *your* result was right on the money.

[Purple Panther]

Ancestry's update has some bugs, but I believe it's actually getting better as Creoda noted. It's on sale for 50% off right now (hint, hint ;)).

That's good to hear. Some comments made it seem like there was an infestation of said bugs.

[Purple Panther]

Weirdly the England and NW Europe category still had the codename 'Anglo-Saxon' until recently.

Hmmm. I don't think that I would have changed that one since it does make sense, but maybe that's why they changed it.

[ShieldWolf]

That's good to hear. Some comments made it seem like there was an infestation of said bugs.

23&Me actually breaks out specific regions in the UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Germany, and possibly elsewhere where your DNA occurs. They're ahead of everyone else in this respect. Certain parts of the world are under tested, but should eventually catch-up and then that level of breakdown will be possible in those regions as well.

[Grace O'Malley]

That explains it. I didn't even notice the arrow, but the map likely shows a shared Anglo-Saxon ethnicity between the two populations, so it's likely very hard to tease out the very fine differences between Danish, Dutch, and Northern German populations and some English populations.

You should get Ancestry if you can. It would be interesting to see if you get any GCs and also what your breakdown is. Also one of the best things with Ancestry is that they do updates nearly every year and you won't be asked to take another test to get updates like 23&Me do.

[Purple Panther]

23&Me actually breaks out specific regions in the UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Germany, and possibly elsewhere where your DNA occurs. They're ahead of everyone else in this respect. Certain parts of the world are under tested, but should eventually catch-up and then that level of breakdown will be possible in those regions as well.

France seems to be the sticking point and the wild card. Have they changed their law on testing yet, because it was as taboo as American fast food joints in the past?

[Purple Panther]

You should get Ancestry if you can. It would be interesting to see if you get any GCs and also what your breakdown is. Also one of the best things with Ancestry is that they do updates nearly every year and you won't be asked to take another test to get updates like 23&Me do.

That indeed is a great selling point. It's almost like compensation for the Hormel warehouse full of spam that you get from them in your inbox.

[J. Ketch]

Hmmm. I don't think that I would have changed that one since it does make sense, but maybe that's why they changed it.
https://i.postimg.cc/j5x4Ly1D/96g8wba.jpg

[ShieldWolf]

France seems to be the sticking point and the wild card. Have they changed their law on testing yet, because it was as taboo as American fast food joints in the past?
France hasn't changed their law. Their concern is misplaced, IMHO.

[Purple Panther]

https://i.postimg.cc/j5x4Ly1D/96g8wba.jpg

That brings Family Search, the LDS genealogy site, to mind. Someone put my White Appalachian grandpa in with some Black New Orleans people because he shared a name with one of them.

[J. Ketch]

Ancestry and 23andme have the means to start comparing people to the many ancient/medieval samples that are around now with ibd, I'm a bit surprised they haven't done it yet, as sales for their regular product must have been in steep decline in recent years (most of the people who want a dna test for recent ancestry have already done it). They'd attract lots of new and old customers with ancient/medieval ancestry estimates, regardless of accuracy or price.

[ShieldWolf]

That brings Family Search, the LDS genealogy site, to mind. Someone put my White Appalachian grandpa in with some Black New Orleans people because he shared a name with one of them.
It's the LDS church's site, but not their research. This is just a mistake that an incompetent researcher made and posted to the site. The same goes for the rampant errors in pedigrees posted to the Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc., sites. Do your own research with the excellent source material readily available on those sites. Don't trust the pedigrees without verifying them.

[Purple Panther]

France hasn't changed their law. Their concern is misplaced, IMHO.

They should change course. I want to know if I have genes from my French Huguenot ancestors who were targeted for death by the Catholic Church. My forebear was warned that they planned to murder him. He and his family split that day if I remember correctly, and they lived in the colony of New York. My grandpa's grandma had their surname as a middle name. That solved a mystery since it had an Italian ring to it, but it turned out to be French. Their descendants were minsters of some note. Sadly or not, we're linked to the Baldwin actors through that line. :D

[Purple Panther]

It's the LDS church's site, but not their research. This is just a mistake that an incompetent researcher made and posted to the site. The same goes for the rampant errors in pedigrees posted to the Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc., sites. Do your own research with the excellent source material readily available on those sites. Don't trust the pedigrees without verifying them.

It's a hot mess in many ways. I recall its Golden Age in the late '90s when I got a lion's share of genealogical information from the site, but it likely devolved since. A lot of genealogical sites have come and gone through the years. It would take a decade for me to get some of the information that I got in ten minutes if I went the pre-internet route of legwork, and I exclude the lines that trace me back to Noah.

[ShieldWolf]

It's a hot mess in many ways. I recall its Golden Age in the late '90s when I got a lion's share of genealogical information from the site, but it likely devolved since. A lot of genealogical sites have come and gone through the years. It would take a decade for me to get some of the information that I got in ten minutes if I went the pre-internet route of legwork, and I exclude the lines that trace me back to Noah.
The data in the 90's was better, because it was based on information compiled by actual genealogists. Since then, amateurs have made mistakes and pedigree copiers have propagated them extensively. It's not as hard to confirm your lineage as you might imagine with source material at your finger tips these days, but few people have the inclination to invest the time to do so. No judgement, just stating what I have observed over the time period from when I started doing genealogy to now.

[ShieldWolf]

They should change course. I want to know if I have genes from my French Huguenot ancestors who were targeted for death by the Catholic Church. My forebear was warned that they planned to murder him. He and his family split that day if I remember correctly, and they lived in the colony of New York. My grandpa's grandma had their surname as a middle name. That solved a mystery since it had an Italian ring to it, but it turned out to be French. Their descendants were minsters of some note. Sadly or not, we're linked to the Baldwin actors through that line. :D
I have Huguenot ancestors as well. They settled New Rochelle, New York. Just remember that Catholics were targeted by Protestants in the same manor in other places. It was nasty from both sides.

[Purple Panther]

I have Huguenot ancestors as well. They settled New Rochelle, New York. Just remember that Catholics were targeted by Protestants in the same manor in other places. It was nasty from both sides.

Mine settled in New Rochelle too. Yeah, "Christian" churches behaved like warring factions of the Shia and the Sunni back then, so Islam never had a monopoly on internecine warfare. It all comes down to religion much of the time. If the English were papists while the Irish were prods, Cromwell would have raised an army of micks to crush the limeys.

[Kiel]

One thing Ive learned about Ancestry and their updates: everything changes, but Scotland always stays.
Actually it got way better in my case:)
https://i.ibb.co/12fGp2g/IMG-1510.png

[Geba]

23&Me actually breaks out specific regions in the UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Germany, and possibly elsewhere where your DNA occurs. They're ahead of everyone else in this respect. Certain parts of the world are under tested, but should eventually catch-up and then that level of breakdown will be possible in those regions as well.

23&me is terrible for regions of Eastern Europe. The regions they show to me has nothing to do with my known genealogy which is quite extense.

[ShieldWolf]

Mine settled in New Rochelle too. Yeah, "Christian" churches behaved like warring factions of the Shia and the Sunni back then, so Islam never had a monopoly on internecine warfare. It all comes down to religion much of the time. If the English were papists while the Irish were prods, Cromwell would have raised an army of micks to crush the limeys.
Except Cromwell, being a Limey, would have been Catholic in this scenario. ;)

[Purple Panther]

Except Cromwell, being a Limey, would have been Catholic in this scenario. ;)

Ah, some Englishmen were Catholic or royalist while some Irishmen (not referring to Scots-Irish Presbyterians) were Protestant or parliamentarian, and O'Brien, 1st Earl of Inchiquin, was a primary example, but he converted back to Catholicism at some point. Cromwell was a taff, by the way, so there's your obscure ethnic slur of the day.

[Gergő Marosvári]

One thing Ive learned about Ancestry and their updates: everything changes, but Scotland always stays.
Actually it got way better in my case:)
https://i.ibb.co/12fGp2g/IMG-1510.png

The results look perfect for you! I thought you would get a subregion from Germany/Austria, but this subregion update on Ancestry was quite weird for a lot of people. Hopefully one day, we will be lucky and we will get an accurate subregion/s. :)

[Brandon]

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As you can see, the Highlands and Ulster remain. The others have vacated.

[RyoHazuki]

Has anyone else lost a subregion? my Northern Isles subregion has disappeared, so much for the strong connection.

https://i.imgur.com/hMsspwn.png

I lost all of mine too

[RyoHazuki]

My Ancestry DNA update is attached below. Overall, it's a closer match to my genealogical research. The 1% Baltics component is new, but not out of the question. The 1% Spain component is also new and harder to reconcile to my family tree.

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If you have French Huguenots in your family tree its probably from that, Hugenots mostly came from the South and Southern French are closest to Iberians.

[Graham]

Has anyone else lost a subregion? my Northern Isles subregion has disappeared, so much for the strong connection.



You would have thought this is what Beta testing is for. They'd be wise to get advice from those that know their countries.

For example the Highlands listed, includes like 99% of the population of Lowland East coast Scotland going by how it is highlighted. This is basically just "scotland". The other parts are borders or areas of higher Irish input

Perhaps they could label it different or show where its mostly concentrated. Otherwise i just see error.

I don't know what lowland Scotland shows.


https://i.ibb.co/QcwkM0V/image.png

[Gergő Marosvári]

Summarizing the whole Ancestry update in one comparison, these are the updated results for me and for my family:

https://i.postimg.cc/W3mCppXQ/N-vtelen.png

Overall our updated results are definitely better, however my dad's results are a bit questionable, because originally the bigger Balkan in my and my sister's results originally came from my father (from my paternal grandfather to be more exact).

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/g2NXzzhS/Ancestry-DNA-Ancestral-Regions-9102024.png

I got some Cornish as I predicted ;)

https://i.postimg.cc/2yjYbjLL/Screenshot-2024-10-13-174104.png

Changed again, glitchy regions left

[calxpal]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTYJCP63/IMG-20241010-083451.jpg

Dang you did lose a lot ): this update did not do you justice at all! I finally got a European genetic group myself and they just removed it grrr. I also still have my partially incorrect French Canadian genetic group (completely wrong region) with no new additions ):. Very unhappy with Ancestry and the poor detail, still even though the accuracy was a bit better for me this time around. Tbh I don't see Ancestry doing any phenomenal updates anymore.

[Gergő Marosvári]

Can somebody explain to me, why Hungary is literally the ONLY country, who doesn't have a subregion!?!?! I mean look at these maps:
I can wait for the subregion, meanwhile we don't even have one lmfao.

https://i.postimg.cc/mr35fDQt/463457541-8508583025902446-3625807222056518226-n.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/3whtBTP7/463320041-8508590002568415-1575497618564716171-n.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MHn5TKj0/462697630-8508591915901557-2476904452540279779-n.jpg

[Geba]

Can somebody explain to me, why Hungary is literally the ONLY country, who doesn't have a subregion!?!?! I mean look at these maps:
I can wait for the subregion, meanwhile we don't even have one lmfao.


The truth is that Ancestry has a poor database for Central and Eastern Europe. They simply don't have enough data. No subregion is highlighted for my kit.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Ancestry rolled out their update today and I've received the updated results.

This is what my results look like:
https://i.postimg.cc/7hgwL86C/k-p.png

My previous Eastern Europe and Russia % is now 77% Central & Eastern Europe, I got +3% Balkan, I lost 2% German, 1% Baltic and my Greek %, but I got a new ethnicity, Southern Italy! The new results are quite accurate for me.

What does your updated result look like? Are you satisfied with the new result?

I think mine is the best so far and most accurate given my known background.

Swedish 50%
French 38%
Insular mix 12%

[Panzerknacker]

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[Gergő Marosvári]

134038

Your results are quite similiar to my mom's results! She has 90% Central&Eastern Europe, 8% German and 2% Balkan.

[Gergő Marosvári]

I think mine is the best so far and most accurate given my known background.

Swedish 50%
French 38%
Insular mix 12%

What's your "Insular mix"? English/Scottish/Welsh or Irish? Or Cornwall?

[PaulieVanZant]

https://i.ibb.co/Sd0Q8wW/Screenshot-2024-10-19-00-11-02-645-org-mozilla-firefox.jpg (https://ibb.co/Jy2x4j0)
https://i.ibb.co/bH5Dtk7/IMG-20241019-001528.jpg (https://ibb.co/pWj5qSn)

[Slavic Italian]

Mine.

This for anyone who cares.


Population
distance
1 French Oïl (Normandy) 3.870
2 German (Bavaria) 3.871
3 Austrian 3.927
4 Alsatian (Alsace) 3.972
5 Croat 4.006
6 Slovene 4.045
7 Hungarian 4.075
8 French Oïl (Grand Est) 4.085
9 Bosniak 4.136
10 German 4.173
11 French Oïl (Hauts-de-France) 4.201
12 Serb 4.229
13 Moldovan 4.247
14 Swiss (German) 4.275
15 German (Saxony) 4.371
16 Montenegrin 4.375
17 Czech 4.400
18 Romanian 4.464
19 Belgian 4.473
20 French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte) 4.621
21 French Oïl (Pays de la Loire) 4.691
22 Bosniak (Croatia) 4.802
23 German (Hamburg) 4.889
24 French Occitan (Auvergne) 4.986
25 French Oïl (Ile-de-France) 5.031
26 Italian (Friuli Venezia Giulia) 5.072
27 French Occitan (Occitanie) 5.100
28 Bulgarian 5.114
29 Ukrainian (Zakarpattia) 5.128
30 Breton 5.195
31 Dutch 5.230
32 French Occitan (Provence) 5.257
33 Swiss (French) 5.269
34 Welsh 5.304
35 Cornish 5.370
36 North Macedonian 5.448
37 English 5.504
38 Gagauz 5.528
39 Italian (Aosta Valley) 5.529
40 Italian (Trentino-Alto Adige) 5.587


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[Waylander]

Here's the latest update for mine. Its fairly accurate for the UK specific bits and has been for a while, but my family usually get other countries pop in and out but there's no particular pattern, this time round i got something outside the UK which i didn't last time, of course no genealogical links to these areas really.

Scotland is always overestimated for me (Unless i have some Scottish ancestry i don't know about). But interestingly the additional Scottish is always from my Dad's side where i have no documented Scottish ancestry at all. Mystery there!

The Journey part is still the same, links me to Kent /Sussex area which makes sense genealogically.

https://i.ibb.co/3YxZ5dv/Ancestry-Update.png

https://i.ibb.co/GRzK0M8/Ancestry-Journey.png

[Voskos]

https://snipboard.io/ESLDlg.jpg

[Brandon]

You would have thought this is what Beta testing is for. They'd be wise to get advice from those that know their countries.

For example the Highlands listed, includes like 99% of the population of Lowland East coast Scotland going by how it is highlighted. This is basically just "scotland". The other parts are borders or areas of higher Irish input

Perhaps they could label it different or show where its mostly concentrated. Otherwise i just see error.

I don't know what lowland Scotland shows.


https://i.ibb.co/QcwkM0V/image.png

134442

They've updated it from "Scottish Highlands" to "Scottish Highlands & Central Lowlands" now.

[alnortedelsur]

Mine:

https://i5.imageban.ru/out/2024/11/16/80f264d39771eed9673adce6d488dec6.jpg

[Graham]

134442

They've updated it from "Scottish Highlands" to "Scottish Highlands & Central Lowlands" now.

I can live with that, more central-East but it's ok, good they listened to a bit of feedback. It picks up 'Edinburgh, Dundee, Perth, Stirling, Aberdeen & Inverness' as opposed to 'Glasgow & the South West Coast.' Those two groups sound different in accents, the main division is accent.