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ScandinavianCelt
10-15-2024, 12:58 AM
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Global Regions. See if it makes sense for you. Post whatever.

My no ADC & 2x ADC:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.8284% / 0.01828392
54.0 NW_European_Insular
32.4 Scandinavia
6.4 Baltic
5.0 West_Caucasus
1.0 North_African
0.6 Oceania
0.6 South_Asia

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.3037% / 0.02303741 | ADC: 2x RC
58.0 NW_European_Insular
42.0 Scandinavia

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You can also try EURO-ONLY K5:

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I get this:

Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 2.0519% / 0.02051922
45.2 NW_European_Insular
39.2 Scandinavia
15.6 Eastern_Europe
unmoggable
10-15-2024, 01:20 AM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 0.5727% / 0.00572664
83.0 NW_European_Insular
5.8 Baltic
5.4 West_Caucasus
4.0 Western_Europe
1.0 Eastern_Europe
0.4 Near_East
0.4 North_African

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 1.4301% / 0.01430065 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 NW_European_Insular

0.01430065 NW_European_Insular
0.03694817 Scandinavia
0.03822402 Western_Europe
0.05545920 Eastern_Europe
0.09377358 Baltic
0.17653903 West_Caucasus
0.18806074 Near_East
0.26721688 Central_American
0.28266800 Central_Asia
0.29023908 North_African
0.30466666 South_Asia
0.39873441 North_American
0.44020630 South_American
0.48684837 Asian
0.57597505 SE_Asia
0.60035701 East_Asian
0.65192310 African
0.80933407 Oceania
Rĉdwald
10-15-2024, 01:33 AM
Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 2.2910% / 0.02291044 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 NW_European_Insular

Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 1.1980% / 0.01197960
63.4 NW_European_Insular
23.6 Western_Europe
9.2 Baltic
2.8 South_American
1.0 South_Asia



Distance to: Rĉdwald
0.02291044 NW_European_Insular
0.03412737 Scandinavia
0.04202119 Western_Europe
0.05811839 Eastern_Europe
0.09067310 Baltic
0.18550123 West_Caucasus
0.19179389 Near_East
0.25954975 Central_American
0.27500220 Central_Asia
0.29055357 North_African
0.29889767 South_Asia
0.38671991 North_American
0.42663528 South_American
0.47707562 Asian
0.56522268 SE_Asia
0.58970205 East_Asian
0.65182968 African
0.80528693 Oceania
ScandinavianCelt
10-15-2024, 01:41 AM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 0.5727% / 0.00572664
83.0 NW_European_Insular
5.8 Baltic
5.4 West_Caucasus
4.0 Western_Europe
1.0 Eastern_Europe
0.4 Near_East
0.4 North_African

Target: unmoggable
Distance: 1.4301% / 0.01430065 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 NW_European_Insular

0.01430065 NW_European_Insular
0.03694817 Scandinavia
0.03822402 Western_Europe
0.05545920 Eastern_Europe
0.09377358 Baltic
0.17653903 West_Caucasus
0.18806074 Near_East
0.26721688 Central_American
0.28266800 Central_Asia
0.29023908 North_African
0.30466666 South_Asia
0.39873441 North_American
0.44020630 South_American
0.48684837 Asian
0.57597505 SE_Asia
0.60035701 East_Asian
0.65192310 African
0.80933407 Oceania


Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 2.2910% / 0.02291044 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 NW_European_Insular

Target: Rĉdwald
Distance: 1.1980% / 0.01197960
63.4 NW_European_Insular
23.6 Western_Europe
9.2 Baltic
2.8 South_American
1.0 South_Asia



Distance to: Rĉdwald
0.02291044 NW_European_Insular
0.03412737 Scandinavia
0.04202119 Western_Europe
0.05811839 Eastern_Europe
0.09067310 Baltic
0.18550123 West_Caucasus
0.19179389 Near_East
0.25954975 Central_American
0.27500220 Central_Asia
0.29055357 North_African
0.29889767 South_Asia
0.38671991 North_American
0.42663528 South_American
0.47707562 Asian
0.56522268 SE_Asia
0.58970205 East_Asian
0.65182968 African
0.80528693 Oceania


I added a 2nd "Euro-Only" set (K5) if you want to try.
tk'es
10-15-2024, 02:41 AM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 4.0416% / 0.04041571
72.8 West_Caucasus
16.2 Scandinavia
6.2 Central_Asia
3.4 North_American
1.4 Baltic


Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.8659% / 0.06865888 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 West_Caucasus
Fabricius
10-15-2024, 02:42 AM
Only-Euro K5
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 6.5535% / 0.06553512
79.2 Western_Europe
20.8 Eastern_Europe

Global K18
Target: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.2006% / 0.01200624
71.4 Western_Europe
14.4 North_African
7.6 Eastern_Europe
3.6 African
1.8 Central_American
1.2 Baltic

Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.06617856 Western_Europe
0.07434506 Eastern_Europe
0.09464586 NW_European_Insular
0.10736812 Scandinavia
0.13529139 Near_East
0.14363099 Baltic
0.16053085 West_Caucasus
0.20880632 North_African
0.21223520 Central_American
0.27481280 Central_Asia
0.29281621 South_Asia
0.39733789 North_American
0.43269434 South_American
0.47699750 Asian
0.56200416 SE_Asia
0.58220700 African
0.58770820 East_Asian
0.79567452 Oceania
Dušan
10-15-2024, 05:12 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.9214% / 0.02921429
88.4 Eastern_Europe
10.4 Baltic
1.2 Western_Europe
Upsilander
10-15-2024, 05:17 AM
Target: Upsilander_Scaled
Distance: 2.3796% / 0.02379569
47.2 NW_European_Insular
43.8 Western_Europe
9.0 Baltic


Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.03117525 NW_European_Insular
0.04388763 Scandinavia
0.04558905 Western_Europe
0.06078330 Eastern_Europe
0.08581074 Baltic
0.19139017 West_Caucasus
0.20415270 Near_East
0.28549245 Central_American
0.29877256 Central_Asia
0.30597915 North_African
0.32481081 South_Asia
0.41137426 North_American
0.45259515 South_American
0.49945254 Asian
0.59039597 SE_Asia
0.61390554 East_Asian
0.66946034 African
0.82243844 Oceania
celticdragongod
10-15-2024, 07:57 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01718325 NW_European_Insular
0.03415376 Scandinavia
0.05193016 Western_Europe
0.06910684 Eastern_Europe
0.09111234 Baltic
0.19143519 West_Caucasus
0.20279715 Near_East
0.27453109 Central_American
0.28783499 Central_Asia
0.29987464 North_African
0.31005917 South_Asia
0.39950150 North_American
0.44351479 South_American
0.48946254 Asian
0.57942470 SE_Asia
0.60377766 East_Asian
0.65857382 African
0.81367517 Oceania

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6349% / 0.01634875
94.0 NW_European_Insular
5.4 Baltic
0.6 Scandinavia

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01718325 NW_European_Insular
0.03415376 Scandinavia
0.05193016 Western_Europe
0.06910684 Eastern_Europe
0.09111234 Baltic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6349% / 0.01634875
94.0 NW_European_Insular
5.4 Baltic
0.6 Scandinavia
Kostek
10-15-2024, 11:53 AM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.5220% / 0.02521974
68.8 Baltic
21.2 Eastern_Europe
3.6 NW_European_Insular
3.6 Western_Europe
2.8 North_African

Target: Grandpa_scaled
Distance: 1.8810% / 0.01881037
51.4 Baltic
44.4 Eastern_Europe
4.0 West_Caucasus
0.2 Central_American
Gallop
10-15-2024, 11:59 AM
Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.04088233 Western_Europe
0.07406202 NW_European_Insular
0.07407882 Eastern_Europe
0.09641429 Scandinavia
0.14404353 Baltic
0.15826800 Near_East
0.16833480 West_Caucasus
0.25091841 North_African
0.25452459 Central_American
0.28979227 Central_Asia
0.31240206 South_Asia
0.41256749 North_American
0.44819263 South_American
0.48957272 Asian
0.57772108 SE_Asia
0.60094707 East_Asian
0.62943384 African
0.80998283 Oceania
Beowulf
10-15-2024, 12:01 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0171% / 0.01712336
97.5 Western_Europe
1.3 North_African
1.0 Near_East
0.2 West_Caucasus


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Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.01784415
Western_Europe


0.05186973
Eastern_Europe


0.05819883
NW_European_Insular


0.08120380
Scandinavia


0.12715658
Baltic


0.16119759
Near_East


0.16142748
West_Caucasus


0.26396435
Central_American


0.26726775
North_African


0.28820797
Central_Asia


0.30864184
South_Asia


0.41104199
North_American


0.44850476
South_American


0.49120859
Asian


0.57886560
SE_Asia


0.60266976
East_Asian


0.64428276
African


0.81014323
Oceania



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EasternLusitanian
10-15-2024, 12:44 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0359% / 0.03586525
82.0 Western_Europe
10.6 North_African
7.4 Near_East

Distance to: MV_scaled
0.05247885 Western_Europe
0.07887310 Eastern_Europe
0.09022746 NW_European_Insular
0.11214290 Scandinavia
0.13836984 Near_East
0.15752960 West_Caucasus
0.15879176 Baltic
0.23709140 North_African
0.24807129 Central_American
0.29058890 Central_Asia
0.30990875 South_Asia
0.41081334 North_American
0.44389106 South_American
0.49200064 Asian
0.57758667 SE_Asia
0.60342868 East_Asian
0.62442526 African
0.80290150 Oceania

Almost the same as my MyHeritage results
ScandinavianCelt
10-15-2024, 02:12 PM
Try taking off all 5 European samples and see what you get. I get this:


Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 16.3640% / 0.16363989
72.8 West_Caucasus
20.2 Central_American
7.0 North_American
ScandinavianCelt
10-15-2024, 03:23 PM
I recommend also taking off all European samples (5), then add any you want to compare from the K13 G25 Regional Sample Source set I posted a couple weeks ago: I selected German-Irish-Scottish-Serbia.

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
Distance: 3.1275% / 0.03127525 | ADC: 1x RC
55.4 Scottish_Orkney
35.2 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
9.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South

Target: SC_Official_Ancestry#2_Scaled
Distance: 2.0526% / 0.02052570 | ADC: 0.5x RC
82.4 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
9.0 Roma_Wallachia
5.0 Central_American
3.6 German_Lower_Saxony_South

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 3.6296% / 0.03629628 | ADC: 1x RC
61.4 German_Lower_Saxony_South
38.6 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz

Target: SC_Official_23andMe_Scaled
Distance: 2.7313% / 0.02731289 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.2 German_Lower_Saxony_South
23.8 Scottish_Orkney
17.8 Swedish_Norrland
14.2 Roma_Wallachia
EasternLusitanian
10-15-2024, 03:29 PM
Try taking off all 5 European samples and see what you get

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.1293% / 0.12931011
50.9 Near_East
32.8 West_Caucasus
16.3 Central_American
noricum
10-15-2024, 04:20 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4567% / 0.02456721
48.6 Western_Europe
34.0 Baltic
16.2 Eastern_Europe
1.2 NW_European_Insular

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4567% / 0.02456721 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.6 Western_Europe
34.0 Baltic
16.2 Eastern_Europe
1.2 NW_European_Insular

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4567% / 0.02456721 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.6 Western_Europe
34.0 Baltic
16.2 Eastern_Europe
1.2 NW_European_Insular

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.6069% / 0.02606851 | ADC: 1x RC
46.2 Eastern_Europe
32.4 NW_European_Insular
21.4 Baltic

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 3.2474% / 0.03247408 | ADC: 2x RC
55.2 Eastern_Europe
44.8 NW_European_Insular

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4567% / 0.02456742 | R3P
50.2 Western_Europe
34.6 Baltic
15.2 Eastern_Europe

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04420893 Eastern_Europe
0.04925372 NW_European_Insular
0.05048579 Western_Europe
0.05294627 Scandinavia
0.07635785 Baltic
0.18342634 West_Caucasus
0.18976577 Near_East
0.27380754 Central_American
0.28831998 Central_Asia
0.29275933 North_African
0.30830610 South_Asia
0.40502688 North_American
0.44693015 South_American
0.49146347 Asian
0.58115943 SE_Asia
0.60541344 East_Asian
0.65492274 African
0.81280753 Oceania
Danjojo
10-15-2024, 05:05 PM
Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 0.6700% / 0.00669973
45.4 Western_Europe
34.2 Baltic
11.2 NW_European_Insular
5.2 Scandinavia
4.0 Eastern_Europe

Target: DanjojoG25sim
Distance: 1.6658% / 0.01665809 | ADC: 2x RC
50.6 Scandinavia
39.4 Eastern_Europe
10.0 NW_European_Insular

Distance to: DanjojoG25sim
0.03438903 Scandinavia
0.03687236 NW_European_Insular
0.04585249 Eastern_Europe
0.04738763 Western_Europe
0.06965046 Baltic
0.18606744 West_Caucasus
0.19472892 Near_East
0.26971365 Central_American
0.28178492 Central_Asia
0.29521479 North_African
0.30586420 South_Asia
0.39673686 North_American
0.44020814 South_American
0.48412213 Asian
0.57362197 SE_Asia
0.59763284 East_Asian
0.65471533 African
0.80915693 Oceania
Gergő Marosvári
10-15-2024, 06:47 PM
Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.8035% / 0.01803481
61.2 Eastern_Europe
23.0 Baltic
8.8 Scandinavia
4.0 West_Caucasus
1.2 Western_Europe
0.8 Central_Asia
0.6 South_Asia
0.4 Oceania
cass
10-16-2024, 10:22 AM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9753% / 0.00975312
48.2 Baltic
22.8 Western_Europe
18.4 NW_European_Insular
10.4 Eastern_Europe
0.2 South_Asia

Distance to: cass
0.03646724 Scandinavia
0.04888230 NW_European_Insular
0.05339735 Baltic
0.05522243 Eastern_Europe
0.06447511 Western_Europe
0.19381911 West_Caucasus
0.20357847 Near_East
0.27360403 Central_American
0.28408950 Central_Asia
0.30232552 North_African
0.30664937 South_Asia
0.39716558 North_American
0.44114815 South_American
0.48585998 Asian
0.57482244 SE_Asia
0.59862786 East_Asian
0.65696642 African
0.81173564 Oceania


Target: cass
Distance: 1.4619% / 0.01461854 | ADC: 1x RC
34.4 Scandinavia
33.0 Baltic
32.6 Eastern_Europe

Target: cass
Distance: 3.6467% / 0.03646724 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Scandinavia

:confused:
ScandinavianCelt
10-16-2024, 12:43 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.9753% / 0.00975312
48.2 Baltic
22.8 Western_Europe
18.4 NW_European_Insular
10.4 Eastern_Europe
0.2 South_Asia

Distance to: cass
0.03646724 Scandinavia
0.04888230 NW_European_Insular
0.05339735 Baltic
0.05522243 Eastern_Europe
0.06447511 Western_Europe
0.19381911 West_Caucasus
0.20357847 Near_East
0.27360403 Central_American
0.28408950 Central_Asia
0.30232552 North_African
0.30664937 South_Asia
0.39716558 North_American
0.44114815 South_American
0.48585998 Asian
0.57482244 SE_Asia
0.59862786 East_Asian
0.65696642 African
0.81173564 Oceania


Target: cass
Distance: 1.4619% / 0.01461854 | ADC: 1x RC
34.4 Scandinavia
33.0 Baltic
32.6 Eastern_Europe

Target: cass
Distance: 3.6467% / 0.03646724 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Scandinavia

:confused:

Looks like you must be far from the average Eastern European. The EEuro ave includes all in the SE and far east, so it's sort of cool you are closer to Scandinavian.
cass
10-16-2024, 02:03 PM
Looks like you must be far from the average Eastern European. The EEuro ave includes all in the SE and far east, so it's sort of cool you are closer to Scandinavian.


IMHO this is some weakness of the G25, which is built around the Baltic drift. The model is extremely sensitive to external signals among the Slavs, and, for example, has problems with correctly distinguishing the Celts from the Germans.


I would say that it is the result of mutual migrations across the Baltic Sea starting from the Iron Age, including migration to Scandinavia. I'm local to a fault> map (https://i.ibb.co/MVgCNct/cass-admix-merged.png)
Eurafricanid
10-16-2024, 02:38 PM
African is mixed, Central American is Triracial, North and South American are castizos, thus this is a useless calculator for LATAM.

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 3.1360% / 0.03135977
86.0 Western_Europe
14.0 Near_East
ScandinavianCelt
10-16-2024, 04:44 PM
IMHO this is some weakness of the G25, which is built around the Baltic drift. The model is extremely sensitive to external signals among the Slavs, and, for example, has problems with correctly distinguishing the Celts from the Germans.


I would say that it is the result of mutual migrations across the Baltic Sea starting from the Iron Age, including migration to Scandinavia. I'm local to a fault> map (https://i.ibb.co/MVgCNct/cass-admix-merged.png)

Cool map bruh.

Would ph2ter recommend doing heatmaps for any particular set of chromosomes? I'd like to submit a few, even unscaled, if possible.
ScandinavianCelt
10-16-2024, 04:46 PM
African is mixed, Central American is Triracial, North and South American are castizos, thus this is a useless calculator for LATAM.

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 3.1360% / 0.03135977
86.0 Western_Europe
14.0 Near_East

throw down a few samples and we can upgrade it if you can do it regionally? maybe k21 afterwards?
Wend-Kruzek
10-16-2024, 06:47 PM
Target: Wend Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9964% / 0.01996430
40.4 Baltic
26.8 Eastern_Europe
19.2 NW_European_Insular
11.2 Western_Europe
1.4 West_Caucasus
1.0 South_American

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 2.9890% / 0.02988952 | ADC: 2x RC
54.6 Scandinavia
45.4 Eastern_Europe
Eurafricanid
10-16-2024, 06:49 PM
throw down a few samples and we can upgrade it if you can do it regionally? maybe k21 afterwards?

It's still kinda not perfect with this calclator, in my opinion, but it's better:

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.9854% / 0.01985414
45.6 African
42.6 Western_Europe
4.8 Near_East
4.8 North_African
2.2 South_American


I was shocked with the NA amount, but then I tried just mixing the African and European components in my signature and this is the result:

Target: Catalan+SSA
Distance: 1.5167% / 0.01516737
48.0 African
44.2 Western_Europe
7.8 North_African


which is nonsensical, since these are the Catalan's:


Target: Catalan
Distance: 3.0145% / 0.03014458
94.0 Western_Europe
4.0 North_African
2.0 Near_East




South_American,0.054768,-0.3155162,0.1189912,0.10381,-0.1141085,-0.0151785,-0.3172095,-0.3757092,-0.0160362,-0.019021,-0.0030325,-0.003342,0.0018062,0.0266105,-0.008598,0.004046,0.0093365,0.0003178,0.002247,0.0 0071,-0.0031632,0.0111565,-0.0044472,-0.0031068,-0.00578
Central_American,0.0544984,-0.3103866,0.1165456,0.09274,-0.106383,-0.0165104,-0.2739286,-0.3298754,-0.0104472,-0.01584,-0.0058528,-0.0051674,0.0026284,0.0188488,-0.0070738,0.0033888,0.0047406,-0.0002836,0.0015938,-0.0004902,-0.0010932,0.0065436,0.0016716,0.0003134,-0.000886
North_American,0.052814,-0.3227354,0.1102704,0.0767128,-0.1055582,-0.0178492,-0.2078434,-0.2462666,-0.0089788,-0.022488,0.0064632,-0.0039714,0.005322,0.002422,-0.0122418,-0.0007956,0.0007038,0.0021916,0.0093266,0.0073658, 0.0026704,-0.0059604,0.001824,0.0053018,0.0065624
African:Bantu,-0.6265794,0.0640772,0.0203663,0.0164457,0.0007118, 0.0116941,-0.0094017,0.0173897,-0.0307887,0.0173144,0.0042532,-0.0025129,-0.0033024,0.0007573,-0.0073121,0.0073644,-0.0055015,0.0114924,-0.0062507,0.002711,-0.0005959,-0.0003182,0.0013223,-0.0011609,-0.0010763
African:West_African,-0.6244035,0.0636248,0.0214735,0.0164762,0.0014,0.0 104568,-0.0335,0.038425,-0.0412562,0.029403,0.0043775,-0.0016172,0.0189552,0.0007172,0.010095,-0.007956,0.0086018,0.0023965,0.0016272,-0.0005268,0.0006752,0.0001192,-0.0016702,-0.0003925,-0.0004955
R1b-L51
10-16-2024, 07:20 PM
Target: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
Distance: 3.0693% / 0.03069315
88.0 Western_Europe
11.6 North_African
0.4 Oceania


Distance to: ROBERTOFERN_scaled
0.04475864 Western_Europe
0.07124722 Eastern_Europe
0.08070780 NW_European_Insular
0.10143106 Scandinavia
0.14681016 Baltic
0.14749996 Near_East
0.16120048 West_Caucasus
0.24105053 North_African
0.24655211 Central_American
0.28379697 Central_Asia
0.30389819 South_Asia
0.40729438 North_American
0.44429907 South_American
0.48456139 Asian
0.57075803 SE_Asia
0.59549611 East_Asian
0.62181604 African
0.80009689 Oceania
cass
10-16-2024, 08:52 PM
Cool map bruh.

Would ph2ter recommend doing heatmaps for any particular set of chromosomes? I'd like to submit a few, even unscaled, if possible.

He works on G25 afaik
Ylla
10-16-2024, 10:39 PM
I didn’t expect this. A bit odd for me.

Distance: 4.9677% / 0.04967657
41.0 Western_Europe
32.6 Eastern_Europe
16.2 Near_East
10.2 West_Caucasus
keterpier
10-17-2024, 12:35 AM
Target: keterpier_scaled
Distance: 2.9931% / 0.02993118
44.6 West_Caucasus
23.6 Near_East
16.4 Western_Europe
8.8 Eastern_Europe
5.2 Asian
1.4 South_Asia
Qemetiel
10-22-2024, 04:13 PM
Distance: 0.6110% / 0.00611029
72.6 NW_European_Insular
15.0 Scandinavia
6.0 Baltic
4.8 Western_Europe
1.4 West_Caucasus
0.2 North_African