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cass
11-02-2024, 09:23 PM
In order to solve the mystery of this battle, I used samples from the 1400-1200 BC (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?389870-1400BC-1200BC-model-Tollense-battle) era. Although the samples are of low quality, it can be speculated that the Trzciniec population with northern affiliations and the Czech Tumulus, supported by reinforcements from even the Pyrenees, took part in the battle. It's worth checking who you support in this epic clash.

https://i.ibb.co/0Bh5MRK/Zrzut-ekranu-2-11-2024-215825-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/N1ZRjdr)


Just for fun


Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%,0.142279,0.135065,0.087869,0.07429,0.060011, 0.013108,0.014806,0.012923,0.016566,0.004556,0.009 094,0.001199,0.010555,0.010735,-0.00475,0.014717,0.014603,-0.003421,0.006913,-0.000625,-0.002121,0.010387,-0.001972,-0.015062,0.008023
Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%,0.126344,0.132019,0.084852,0.060724,0.034468 ,0.011156,0.019741,0.019153,0.010635,-0.006925,-0.006496,-0.006294,0.000595,0.000963,0.002579,-0.027313,0.004303,-0.00076,0.025517,-0.007003,0.010856,-0.013107,-0.000986,-0.01217,0.004431
Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %,0.117238,0.149283,0.064488,0.047158,0.06432,0.02 761,0.018801,0.005538,0.002045,-0.010934,0.001137,-0.012439,-0.004162,-0.00812,-0.007465,-0.007955,-0.021644,0.009882,-0.008547,0.016633,-0.002246,0.000495,0.014666,-0.009399,0.031374
Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%,0.12862,0.151314,0.07731,0 .029716,0.043393,-0.001952,0.003525,-0.004154,0.023316,-0.008018,-0.015914,0.012139,-0.017542,0.009358,-0.005429,-0.012463,-0.012778,-0.001394,-0.004777,0.007629,-0.003868,0.001113,-0.001972,-0.016508,0.002036
Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%,0.133173,0.15436,0.0 53174,0.004522,0.060627,0.00251,-0.0047,-0.011538,0.013703,0.042279,0.004222,0.012139,-0.026908,-0.0139,0.010043,-0.034606,0.010431,-0.01761,-0.005656,-0.004752,-0.006613,-0.002473,-0.018857,0.012893,0.007544
Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%,0.121791,0.140143,0.044123,0. 050065,0.038776,-0.008646,-0.00752,0.002769,0.016975,0.025149,-0.006171,0.002098,-0.020515,-0.000413,0.005022,0.009016,0.00691,-0.001014,0.009427,-0.001751,0.004991,0.00779,0.001479,0.00735,-0.0097
Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%,0.126344,0.12491,0.099937,0.07106,0.048624,0.01 6176,0.014101,0.014769,0.023111,0.001276,-0.026145,-0.028625,0.004014,-0.020781,-0.013708,-0.003978,-0.000391,0.008235,0.017723,0.026888,0.015722,0.009 892,-0.01368,-0.024582,-0.000958
Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%,0.112685,0.153345,0.076933,0. 069768,0.05601,0.029284,0.030551,-0.006923,0.012271,0.011481,-0.019649,-0.003897,0.006392,0.007707,0.016015,0.021745,-0.008084,0.002407,0.000754,0.012881,0.020963,-0.006183,-0.010969,-0.023979,0.001317
Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%,0.127482,0.152329,0.06184 8,0.034884,0.048317,0.001394,-0.012456,0.002077,0.020248,0.019317,-0.000162,-0.007943,-0.002676,0.022983,0.001357,-0.001724,-0.009779,0.008615,-0.006285,-0.000625,0.007736,-0.004451,-0.008751,-0.027353,-0.00491
Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%,0.118376,0.144205,0.07768 7,0.073644,0.057549,0.00502,0.001175,0.025845,0.01 6157,0.011116,0.001299,-0.001349,0.004608,0.015276,0.008822,-0.002387,0.013951,0.004687,0.008925,0.008129,0.006 863,-0.009521,-0.006286,-0.023015,0.013292
Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%,0.124067,0.117801,0.076555,0.066538,0.057549,0 .025937,-0.003055,0.008077,0.016975,-0.012939,-0.001299,0.000899,0.021704,-0.019955,0.002714,0.023734,0.017341,-0.006714,0.012696,0.006003,-0.006988,0.00643,-0.020089,0.001205,-0.01413
Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%,0.14797,0.14 5221,0.085606,0.088502,0.034468,0.035419,0.015981, 0.013846,-0.006545,-0.00893,-0.009094,-0.004046,-0.00223,0.035782,0.003936,0.00411,0.022426,0.00012 7,-0.011187,0.007003,-0.010981,-0.003215,0.012695,-0.018557,-0.005149




Target: cass
Distance: 2.7136% / 0.02713606
77.8 Trzciniec
22.2 Tumulus_Czech

Target: cass
Distance: 2.7136% / 0.02713606
25.0 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
20.2 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
19.0 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
14.4 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
13.6 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
4.4 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
3.4 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%




Target: Swedish
Distance: 3.0511% / 0.03051126
76.2 Trzciniec
23.8 Tumulus_Czech


Target: Scottish_Argyll_and_Bute
Distance: 5.4003% / 0.05400259
63.6 Trzciniec
25.8 Tumulus_Czech
10.6 Tumulus_Czech_ally

Target: Basque_France
Distance: 3.9527% / 0.03952701
47.0 Tumulus_Czech_ally
43.2 Tumulus_Czech
9.8 Trzciniec

Target: German_Baden-Wurttemberg
Distance: 2.9798% / 0.02979833
55.2 Tumulus_Czech
28.2 Trzciniec
16.6 Tumulus_Czech_ally

Target: Italian_(Central_Italian_Profile)
Distance: 7.9017% / 0.07901742
53.6 Tumulus_Czech
46.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally

ray allan
11-02-2024, 10:23 PM
Good work on that. This battle was completely lost to history until about 2006. Looks like the combatants came from all over northern and central Europe. I hope archaeologists and forensic investigators can eventually determine what this clash was all about besides the Tollense river bridge crossing, trade routes and so on.

Athalafuns
11-02-2024, 10:34 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 4.8658% / 0.04865820
66.6 Tumulus_Czech
31.6 Tumulus_Czech_ally
1.8 Trzciniec

Target: RNB27
Distance: 4.8658% / 0.04865820
44.4 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
31.6 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
11.4 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
10.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
1.8 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %

tk'es
11-02-2024, 10:54 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 15.8701% / 0.15870082
61.6 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
18.2 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
15.2 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
4.8 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.2 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%

cass
11-02-2024, 11:06 PM
Good work on that. This battle was completely lost to history until about 2006. Looks like the combatants came from all over northern and central Europe. I hope archaeologists and forensic investigators can eventually determine what this clash was all about besides the Tollense river bridge crossing, trade routes and so on.

https://i.ibb.co/540fvH5/Zrzut-ekranu-3-11-2024-0214-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/dMTz6YQ)

To me this looks like a planned (proto-Celtic?) invasion of the north. They brought reinforcements even from the Pyrenees. The center of this people was somewhere in the Alpine area. The defenders were an unnamed Nordoid Slavic-Germanic population who defended their homeland and called in reinforcements from their kinsmen from Poland and Northern Germany.

celticdragongod
11-02-2024, 11:36 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.05906910 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.06805548 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.06957763 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.07286731 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.07912794 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.07973762 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.07974341 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.08005329 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.08513832 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.09385617 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
0.09576545 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%
0.09600678 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.9821% / 0.03982129
38.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
24.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
13.4 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
11.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
6.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
5.0 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.9821% / 0.03982129 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
24.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
13.4 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
11.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
6.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
5.0 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 4.0189% / 0.04018905 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.0 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
26.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
15.6 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
11.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
2.0 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%

Gallop
11-02-2024, 11:44 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.9787% / 0.04978732
36.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
33.6 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
15.4 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
14.6 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%

cass
11-03-2024, 10:00 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.05906910 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.06805548 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.06957763 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.07286731 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.07912794 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.07973762 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.07974341 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.08005329 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.08513832 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.09385617 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
0.09576545 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%
0.09600678 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.9821% / 0.03982129
38.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
24.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
13.4 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
11.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
6.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
5.0 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.9821% / 0.03982129 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
24.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
13.4 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
11.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
6.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
5.0 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 4.0189% / 0.04018905 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.0 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
26.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
15.6 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
11.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
2.0 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%

It seems that your ancestors fought equally on both sides. :thumb001:

cass
11-03-2024, 10:03 AM
Opponents in the classic three-variable model.
https://i.ibb.co/rH5v602/Zrzut-ekranu-3-11-2024-115937-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/hV2CW9F)

and in the period 1800-1600 BC
https://i.ibb.co/RhXtSRF/Zrzut-ekranu-3-11-2024-121224-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/hXGrM36)

and 2400-2200 BC
https://i.ibb.co/M7qyHgS/Zrzut-ekranu-3-11-2024-121734-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/QMs7VJQ)

noricum
11-03-2024, 11:00 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 3.4083% / 0.03408318
52.6 Trzciniec
45.0 Tumulus_Czech
2.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.05638251 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.05875231 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.06036256 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.06371783 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.06729727 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.07102952 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.07163895 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.08360787 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.08461644 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
0.08475779 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.09671599 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%
0.09785590 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%

unmoggable
11-03-2024, 03:21 PM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 3.4795% / 0.03479533
43.4 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
23.6 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
14.6 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
9.8 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
4.8 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
3.8 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%

0.05201449 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.06565153 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.07237331 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.07312625 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.07333684 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.07778537 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.07991538 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.08138404 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.08174413 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.09010658 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
0.09567510 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
0.09839040 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%

frankhammer
11-03-2024, 03:39 PM
Target: frankhammer_scaled
Distance: 3.6801% / 0.03680136
51.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
24.2 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
13.4 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
5.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
4.2 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
1.0 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%

Target: frankhammer_scaled
Distance: 3.6801% / 0.03680136
51.8 Tumulus_Czech
42.8 Trzciniec
5.4 Tumulus_Czech_ally

Wend-Kruzek
11-03-2024, 05:51 PM
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.05395043 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.06124899 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.06438935 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.06798833 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.07048037 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.07065207 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.07159613 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.07520469 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
0.07924893 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.08371678 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.08992883 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%
0.10809064 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 3.3985% / 0.03398496
28.8 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
17.4 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
13.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
12.8 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
10.0 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
9.4 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
7.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%


Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 3.3985% / 0.03398496
66.8 Trzciniec
33.2 Tumulus_Czech

cass
11-03-2024, 05:58 PM
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.05395043 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.06124899 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.06438935 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.06798833 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.07048037 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.07065207 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.07159613 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.07520469 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
0.07924893 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.08371678 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.08992883 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%
0.10809064 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 3.3985% / 0.03398496
28.8 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
17.4 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%
13.8 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
12.8 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
10.0 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
9.4 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
7.8 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%


Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 3.3985% / 0.03398496
66.8 Trzciniec
33.2 Tumulus_Czech

:thumb001:

Welcome to the Mecklenburg team. I didn't expect you to betray the Czechs.

cass
11-04-2024, 08:19 PM
Archeology seems to support the genetic thesis.

https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:20241029083015917-0498:S0003598X24001406:S0003598X24001406_fig8.png
Figure 8. Distribution of bronze arrowheads of types 4B, 4C and 2A (figure by Leif Inselmann).
source (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/warriors-from-the-south-arrowheads-from-the-tollense-valley-and-central-europe/C4F6ECB759833BFD337D37ADAE564C4B)


+ interesting find on the Internet
https://i.redd.it/6re0hgmh72931.jpg

cass
02-12-2025, 11:04 PM
https://i.ibb.co/qYx3t4pM/Zrzut-ekranu-13-2-2025-112-adnaxp-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/gZ6L5XJM)
https://ibb.co/N1ZRjdr

Predicted pigmentation of the belligerents in accordance with the general north-south pattern.

Gannicus
02-13-2025, 01:37 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.05155089 Tumulus_Czech:French_Oïl:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ57 __BC_1250__Cov_3.41%
0.07308852 Tumulus_Czech:German_Saxony:Germany_Tollense_BA:WE Z53__BC_1250__Cov_3.21%
0.07687419 Tumulus_Czech:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ61__BC_1250__Cov_5.27%
0.07918180 Trzciniec:Slovak-Swedish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ83__BC_1250__Cov_2. 90%
0.08398939 Trzciniec:German-Ukrainian:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ40__BC_1250__Cov_ 4.51%
0.08482106 Trzciniec:German-Czech:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ51__BC_1250__Cov_3.24 %
0.08509167 Tumulus_Czech_ally:French_Occitan:Germany_Tollense _BA:WEZ54__BC_1250__Cov_3.25%
0.08563716 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BA:W EZ64__BC_1250__Cov_6.40%
0.08703851 Trzciniec:German_Hamburg:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ59 __BC_1250__Cov_5.58%
0.08831594 Trzciniec:Sorb_Niederlausitz:Germany_Tollense_BASo rb_Niederlausitz.SG:WEZ15_noUDG.SG__BC_1250__Cov_1 1.51%
0.10194090 Trzciniec:Swedish-Polish:Germany_Tollense_BA:WEZ58__BC_1250__Cov_3.1 2%
0.11159461 Trzciniec:Lithuanian_South_Aukstaitija:Germany_Tol lense_BA_o2:WEZ56__BC_1250__Cov_5.69%

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0389% / 0.03891652
43.8 Tumulus_Czech
37.5 Trzciniec
18.7 Tumulus_Czech_ally